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Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: kaloyster on March 21, 2006, 04:59:15 PM
Pano ba mapapagana ang electric guitar sa computer? Kasi built-in ung soundcard co, tatlo ang input jack nya. isang Audio, Speaker and Line In. hindi co alam kung saan co isasaksak ang guitar cable (na ginamitan nung pampaliit ang other end) sa tatlong ito. and paano co makikita sa Cakewalk ito. please help and thanks much sa replies.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: KitC on March 21, 2006, 05:15:13 PM
Right way o wrong way? Wrong way is to use guitar cable with 1/8" plug on the other end and use mic input. Very unpredictable because mic out of soundcard has +5VDC on ring of the stereo trs connection. Di ko alam kung anong effect ng +5V sa circuits ng gitara. Theoretically, shunted to ground ung +5V if you insert 1/8" mono plug but you may never know; there is still 5 volt potential sa sleeve/shield ng guitar/cable.

Right way is to use a preamp (preferably with stereo outs) and connect that to soundcard LINE inputs. If you have amp modeler with line outs, you can connect that to line inputs also. Never connect guitar direct to line in because impedance mismatch will cause input to easily distort and cause guitar to sound thin.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: kaloyster on March 21, 2006, 05:49:44 PM
mejo na cross-eyed aco dun ah:)

wala kasi aco gaano alam sa technical things na ganito kaya mejo nahihirapan aco. ganito nalang, may masa-suggest po ba kayong software na pwede cong input-an ng live instruments and pwedeng magrecord track by track? and oh, user friendly po. thanks!
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: kamalayan on March 21, 2006, 05:56:08 PM
You need a preamp muna sir much better kung may DI box din. Try mo rin ung Guitar Rig (http://www.macmusic.org/softs/view.php/lang/EN/id/2451/?vRmtQjpAznOhMaS=1) ng Native Instruments for FXs. Malaki nga lang latency pag direct ka nag plug lalo na onboard ung Soundcard.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: kaloyster on March 21, 2006, 08:46:12 PM
darn, cguro kelangan co talagang bumili ng high-end soundcard. oh well, anything for music.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: hordex on March 21, 2006, 11:21:54 PM
bro,
 meron ako Cakewalk Guitar Tracks PROV2. pde mag record dun, 32 tracks sya.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: KitC on March 22, 2006, 01:17:38 AM
A full explanation on a soundcard's inputs and outputs (http://www.epanorama.net/links/pc_sound.html) including other little known facts about soundcards. Includes 'how to connect a a dynamic mic to Soundblaster cards' explanation.

What is your soundcard? Soundblaster? Motherboard audio? Or yung mga CMI na soundcard? In most cases, gagamitin mo dapat ung 'line-in' jack, usually light green ang kulay nun. Line outs (for speakers) are light blue, while mic in is pink. If you have a preamp, ung line outs nun go to line in ng soundcard.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: Phil on March 22, 2006, 02:37:11 AM
I use a kickwok
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: brandey on March 22, 2006, 03:31:58 AM
sushiboy, I use cakewalk sonar4 low tek din soundcard ko ginawa ko lang kabit ko sa fx ko guitar ko then may stereo cable ako na maliit kabit ko sa headphones out ng fx ko to line in ng soundcard. Kung may amp sim ang effects mo mas maganda, kung analog fx user ka download ka ng "AMPLITUBE" plug -in sa cakewalk un ampsim na computer based :D
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: kaloyster on March 22, 2006, 06:18:02 AM
wow! thanks sa suggestions mga par. i'm sure to try these out. salamat po!
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on March 22, 2006, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: Phil
I use a kickwok


parang wok wid yan... kilala mo yun?  :lol:
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: qwertyuiop on March 22, 2006, 07:12:28 PM
tanong ko lng. may pagkakaiba ba kapag sa line in o mic ang gagamitin?
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: kamalayan on March 23, 2006, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: qwertyuiop
tanong ko lng. may pagkakaiba ba kapag sa line in o mic ang gagamitin?
Mas malakas ata ung signal sa MIC in kaya sabog ang sound pag dun mo pinlug.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: polarized06 on March 23, 2006, 09:44:20 AM
how do u use a direct box?? can u give us a diagram or flow chart where to plug this  and that??


kamalayan: OT hows ur artcore??? sold na ba?? :twisted:
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: Phil on March 23, 2006, 10:04:23 AM
Quote from: polarized06
how do u use a direct box?? can u give us a diagram or flow chart where to plug this  and that??


kamalayan: OT hows ur artcore??? sold na ba?? :twisted:


http://www.behringer.com/GI100/index.cfm?lang=ENG


download mo manual.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: KitC on March 23, 2006, 10:21:25 AM
Quote from: polarized06
how do u use a direct box?? can u give us a diagram or flow chart where to plug this  and that??


DIrect boxes are in essence, transformers. They convert unbalanced line-level or instrument level signals to balanced mic-level. Here's an example from the Whirlwind site:

(http://www.whirlwindusa.com/i1/impuse.jpg)

In the example above, the direct signal from the instrument will be sent to the mixer, not the amped signal. This is useful if you intend to re-amp the guitar for recording purposes while the signal going back to the amp becomes your monitor signal. The full article can be found here (http://www.whirlwindusa.com/tech02.html).
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: Phil on March 23, 2006, 10:45:15 AM
Quote from: KitC
Quote from: polarized06
how do u use a direct box?? can u give us a diagram or flow chart where to plug this  and that??


DIrect boxes are in essence, transformers. They convert unbalanced line-level or instrument level signals to balanced mic-level. Here's an example from the Whirlwind site:

(http://www.whirlwindusa.com/i1/impuse.jpg)

In the example above, the direct signal from the instrument will be sent to the mixer, not the amped signal. This is useful if you intend to re-amp the guitar for recording purposes while the signal going back to the amp becomes your monitor signal. The full article can be found here (http://www.whirlwindusa.com/tech02.html).


si pareng kitc...kung magexplain parang manual....thats a compliment ha.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: KitC on March 23, 2006, 11:12:33 AM
Quote from: Phil

si pareng kitc...kung magexplain parang manual....thats a compliment ha.


Uy! Phil! Thanks for the compliment... I think. :wink:

'Sensya na lang kung medyo heby, pare. 'Di talaga mawala sakin pagka-enginir ko, eh. Pass the acapulco gold, bro!  :lol:
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: kamalayan on March 23, 2006, 11:28:31 AM
Quote from: polarized06
how do u use a direct box?? can u give us a diagram or flow chart where to plug this  and that??


kamalayan: OT hows ur artcore??? sold na ba?? :twisted:
Basically i babalance nya lang ung signal para di sabog ung tunog pag pumasok sa PC or kung live pwede ka mag plug sa house (PA). GUITAR ->FX(Preamp)-> DI PC/MIXER

Artcore nasakin pa rin.
Title: [Help] Are there any Cakewalk software users here?
Post by: Phil on March 23, 2006, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: KitC
Quote from: Phil

si pareng kitc...kung magexplain parang manual....thats a compliment ha.


Uy! Phil! Thanks for the compliment... I think. :wink:

'Sensya na lang kung medyo heby, pare. 'Di talaga mawala sakin pagka-enginir ko, eh. Pass the acapulco gold, bro!  :lol:
bwahahaha :lol: