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The Musician Forums => Guitar Central => Topic started by: progressive_pilipinas on April 02, 2006, 03:18:56 PM
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ok so you have your own progressions...
why dont we have one progression for all, and see how different guitarists makes their solo out of it..
heres the progression..
DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
4 beats in a measure, 2 counts for each chord, 12 bars.
let the posting spree begin!
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Paiyakan ah.
Di ba pwedeng D5-A5-F5-B5 na lang ?
Nyuk nyuk nyuk
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nge?! hehehe :lol:
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depends on what voicing you'll be doing.
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hehe tama si bamf power chording nalang. nga lang pag prog ata ung progression tama ba?
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hehe tama si bamf power chording nalang. nga lang pag prog ata ung progression tama ba?
jazz progression yun bro..
ito nalang G - Em - C - D.. nyaha!
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DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
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DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
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Pang-jazz nga yung progression.
Gusto nyo gawa ako backing track o kanya-kanya nang gawa ? Pag ako naglatag baka New Orleans Jazz ang rhythm section na gamitin ko.
Mare-review ata lahat ng modal scales ko neto pag sinunod natin yung prog mo hehehe.
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nyah!!! hahaha! bahala ka kung ano gusto mo gawin...
anyway gawin mo nalang EM9 yung DM9,, di ko gusto yung tunog nung DM9 after ng B7.. hehe..
anong modes? kalimutan na yan... nyehehehe..
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DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
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DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
hmmm.. well if you are trying to give me an insult, good luck.
you could say that i dont own it.. if thats what you want and if that satisfies your ego. darnel was referring to a standard where i got that one, well i didnt get that from any standard or tunes or anything. like who gave joe pass the right to his own lines and progressions? did he have to apply for something? license to own progression? think well bro, give me a jazz progression exactly as i stated above,
DM9 - A7 -F#7#9 - B7.. if you find one i hope youll be happy..
E9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7. well this might be the progression you might be fighting for.. ahhh
let me tell you something bro, if youre trying to point out something do it in a nice way, ok
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DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
hmmm.. well if you are trying to give me an insult, good luck.
you could say that i dont own it.. if thats what you want and if that satisfies your ego. darnel was referring to a standard where i got that one, well i didnt get that from any standard or tunes or anything. like who gave joe pass the right to his own lines and progressions? did he have to apply for something? license to own progression? think well bro, give me a jazz progression exactly as i stated above,
DM9 - A7 -F#7#9 - B7.. if you find one i hope youll be happy..
E9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7. well this might be the progression you might be fighting for.. ahhh
let me tell you something bro, if youre trying to point out something do it in a nice way, ok
Joe Pass didn't claim it was his, while you did in in bold and all caps.
And what you said doesn't prove anything. It just means you haven't done your share of listening.
Also, as you were saying, you altered the basic ii-V-I progressionin E:
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
It would do you well to know how to write your chords properly. If you were indeed talking about ii-V-I, F#7#9 as far as I know is not a ii chord but a II chord, since it's a major chord, based on your notation. It would do you good to know how to write your notes if you're really seeking clarity and credibility.
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O bos marco ! Lamig ulo lang. Friends tayo dito :D
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I know we're friends and I hope progressive_pilipinas has enough sense that using the four letter word doesn't really connote verbal aggression in that context. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone in the process, including him, but I'm not sorry for what I think about his claim.
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geez... another oas in the making...
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Peace po.. the reason I was asking kung san nakuha ni prog yun kasi I believe its not a typical (standard) jazz progression as what others have stated… the chords were typical in the jazz vernacular but the changes were more advanced… think post bop…
With regards to a the usage of a dominant chord instead of a minor chord in a 2-5-1 setting… I think pede po yun.. its called a V of V substitution…
Say in a typical turnaround in C… Cmaj-Am7-Dm7-G7
Pedeng maging Em7-Am7-Dm7-G7
Using the V of V substitution… it will become E7-A7-D7-G7… tapos kung mahilig kayo sa tritone pde din ipalit
PS... since nasingit c Joe Pass, he discussed this extensively in his videos...
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geez... another oas in the making...
titser marco makes good points. Question is, point taken kaya ng mga tao dito?
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geez... another oas in the making...
titser marco makes good points. Question is, point taken kaya ng mga tao dito?
it's not about the points he made... which i agree are valid... it's having to take that attitude... geez... chord progression lang eh napaka-emotional naman...
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geez... another oas in the making...
titser marco makes good points. Question is, point taken kaya ng mga tao dito?
it's not about the points he made... which i agree are valid... it's having to take that attitude... geez... chord progression lang eh napaka-emotional naman...
Maybe not emotional. Maybe he just writes as if he doesn't know how he can be misinterpreted.
I read this in one book before...Try stressing on the italicized word in the same sentence.
1. I deserve that job.
2. I deserve that job.
3. I deserve that job.
4. I deserve that job.
In 1), it is like saying no one else deserves that job. In 2), it is like saying you earned the job through hard work, hence you insist you deserve it. In 3) you are referring to no other job but that particular one. And in 4), he points to a mop...
Same sentence, same words, with different tones. At least you have to choose the right words in forums to avoid misinterpretation. But then, I cannot discount the fact that marco ain't an ass just by saying f***.
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ok. easy lang marco,, i understnd your point, i got that but of course that four letter word fuzzed me out.
F#7#9 is not a the ii chord.. its the III of the D. D was the home chord so E9 would be the II of D.
i was not referring to E as the home chord.. ok? peace bro.. you should come on the 7th.. :lol:
speaking of another oas in the making.. hmmm.. bold comments.
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geez... another oas in the making...
titser marco makes good points. Question is, point taken kaya ng mga tao dito?
it's not about the points he made... which i agree are valid... it's having to take that attitude... geez... chord progression lang eh napaka-emotional naman...
Maybe not emotional. Maybe he just writes as if he doesn't know how he can be misinterpreted.
I read this in one book before...Try stressing on the italicized word in the same sentence.
1. I deserve that job.
2. I deserve that job.
3. I deserve that job.
4. I deserve that job.
In 1), it is like saying no one else deserves that job. In 2), it is like saying you earned the job through hard work, hence you insist you deserve it. In 3) you are referring to no other job but that particular one. And in 4), he points to a mop...
Same sentence, same words, with different tones. At least you have to choose the right words in forums to avoid misinterpretation. But then, I cannot discount the fact that marco ain't an ass just by saying f***.
Ang tiyaga mo tol, lolz.. again, di ka ba talaga si oas? Its just an innocent question..
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dude...nobody really OWNS a chord progression...he probably meant that that was the chord progression that HE provided...take it easy...jesus christ...don't be so friggin' antsy...just solo over the goddamn thing, will ya?
DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
hmmm.. well if you are trying to give me an insult, good luck.
you could say that i dont own it.. if thats what you want and if that satisfies your ego. darnel was referring to a standard where i got that one, well i didnt get that from any standard or tunes or anything. like who gave joe pass the right to his own lines and progressions? did he have to apply for something? license to own progression? think well bro, give me a jazz progression exactly as i stated above,
DM9 - A7 -F#7#9 - B7.. if you find one i hope youll be happy..
E9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7. well this might be the progression you might be fighting for.. ahhh
let me tell you something bro, if youre trying to point out something do it in a nice way, ok
Joe Pass didn't claim it was his, while you did in in bold and all caps.
And what you said doesn't prove anything. It just means you haven't done your share of listening.
Also, as you were saying, you altered the basic ii-V-I progressionin E:
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
It would do you well to know how to write your chords properly. If you were indeed talking about ii-V-I, F#7#9 as far as I know is not a ii chord but a II chord, since it's a major chord, based on your notation. It would do you good to know how to write your notes if you're really seeking clarity and credibility.
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If you review your grammar lessons, "my" is a possessive pronoun.
PRSMan: Regarding the oas issue, I don't think a comparison is really necessary but rather a re-evaluation of the over-sensitivity of a lot of people here towards assertive (note NO AGGRESSIVE) rhetoric. If you can't stand strong attitudes, then live in solitude. To use your interjection, GEEZ.
dude...nobody really OWNS a chord progression...he probably meant that that was the chord progression that HE provided...take it easy...jesus christ...don't be so friggin' antsy...just solo over the goddamn thing, will ya?
DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
hmmm.. well if you are trying to give me an insult, good luck.
you could say that i dont own it.. if thats what you want and if that satisfies your ego. darnel was referring to a standard where i got that one, well i didnt get that from any standard or tunes or anything. like who gave joe pass the right to his own lines and progressions? did he have to apply for something? license to own progression? think well bro, give me a jazz progression exactly as i stated above,
DM9 - A7 -F#7#9 - B7.. if you find one i hope youll be happy..
E9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7. well this might be the progression you might be fighting for.. ahhh
let me tell you something bro, if youre trying to point out something do it in a nice way, ok
Joe Pass didn't claim it was his, while you did in in bold and all caps.
And what you said doesn't prove anything. It just means you haven't done your share of listening.
Also, as you were saying, you altered the basic ii-V-I progressionin E:
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
It would do you well to know how to write your chords properly. If you were indeed talking about ii-V-I, F#7#9 as far as I know is not a ii chord but a II chord, since it's a major chord, based on your notation. It would do you good to know how to write your notes if you're really seeking clarity and credibility.
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to quote your avatar's song
Shut Up & Play Your Guitar (you smart a$$)
this isn't an english grammar thread it's a guitar thread...go to pinoyexchange or something, man...
If you review your grammar lessons, "my" is a possessive pronoun.
PRSMan: Regarding the oas issue, I don't think a comparison is really necessary but rather a re-evaluation of the over-sensitivity of a lot of people here towards assertive (note NO AGGRESSIVE) rhetoric. If you can't stand strong attitudes, then live in solitude. To use your interjection, GEEZ.
dude...nobody really OWNS a chord progression...he probably meant that that was the chord progression that HE provided...take it easy...jesus christ...don't be so friggin' antsy...just solo over the goddamn thing, will ya?
DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
hmmm.. well if you are trying to give me an insult, good luck.
you could say that i dont own it.. if thats what you want and if that satisfies your ego. darnel was referring to a standard where i got that one, well i didnt get that from any standard or tunes or anything. like who gave joe pass the right to his own lines and progressions? did he have to apply for something? license to own progression? think well bro, give me a jazz progression exactly as i stated above,
DM9 - A7 -F#7#9 - B7.. if you find one i hope youll be happy..
E9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7. well this might be the progression you might be fighting for.. ahhh
let me tell you something bro, if youre trying to point out something do it in a nice way, ok
Joe Pass didn't claim it was his, while you did in in bold and all caps.
And what you said doesn't prove anything. It just means you haven't done your share of listening.
Also, as you were saying, you altered the basic ii-V-I progressionin E:
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
It would do you well to know how to write your chords properly. If you were indeed talking about ii-V-I, F#7#9 as far as I know is not a ii chord but a II chord, since it's a major chord, based on your notation. It would do you good to know how to write your notes if you're really seeking clarity and credibility.
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ok. easy lang marco,, i understnd your point, i got that but of course that four letter word fuzzed me out.
F#7#9 is not a the ii chord.. its the III of the D. D was the home chord so E9 would be the II of D.
i was not referring to E as the home chord.. ok? peace bro.. you should come on the 7th.. :lol:
speaking of another oas in the making.. hmmm.. bold comments.
It's good to hear that you have enough sense in you that the four letter word doesn't exactly mean aggression (unlike some stupid people here in the forum). Anyhow, the discussion on whether you were talking about a ii V I in E is clear here in your post:
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
But yes, the new chord run on D would imply that the F# chord is the III chord in the key of D. However, it could also be interpreted in this way if it were still in the key of E:
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
There. Given that new perspective, those who plan to solo over that have more options in terms of, ahem, "allowed" notes. I however, was, and still am, more interested in plotting the different inversions and upper partials/extensions of the chords. Not much of a guitar solo person, really. In these cases, I prefer to extend the harmony because it can get so fcking BIG!
And speaking of the 7th, why don't you (prog) post this on that thread for everyone to study.
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grammar cop: kindly give an example of this progression uhm...typewritten by you... (not "yours", right?)
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
i've never seen the 1st and 3rd chord in my whole life...can you give samples?
love,
theory cop
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(Now who's getting antsy over such a mundane matter as his grammar being criticized? Haha.)
Hahaha, I laugh at your general direction. You don't even know that it's a complete boxed set. And tell me, how can you quote something that has no lyrics?
This is a real quote from FZ: Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.
And after reading this, I tend to agree.
to quote your avatar's song
Shut Up & Play Your Guitar (you smart a$$)
this isn't an english grammar thread it's a guitar thread...go to pinoyexchange or something, man...
If you review your grammar lessons, "my" is a possessive pronoun.
PRSMan: Regarding the oas issue, I don't think a comparison is really necessary but rather a re-evaluation of the over-sensitivity of a lot of people here towards assertive (note NO AGGRESSIVE) rhetoric. If you can't stand strong attitudes, then live in solitude. To use your interjection, GEEZ.
dude...nobody really OWNS a chord progression...he probably meant that that was the chord progression that HE provided...take it easy...jesus christ...don't be so friggin' antsy...just solo over the goddamn thing, will ya?
DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
hmmm.. well if you are trying to give me an insult, good luck.
you could say that i dont own it.. if thats what you want and if that satisfies your ego. darnel was referring to a standard where i got that one, well i didnt get that from any standard or tunes or anything. like who gave joe pass the right to his own lines and progressions? did he have to apply for something? license to own progression? think well bro, give me a jazz progression exactly as i stated above,
DM9 - A7 -F#7#9 - B7.. if you find one i hope youll be happy..
E9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7. well this might be the progression you might be fighting for.. ahhh
let me tell you something bro, if youre trying to point out something do it in a nice way, ok
Joe Pass didn't claim it was his, while you did in in bold and all caps.
And what you said doesn't prove anything. It just means you haven't done your share of listening.
Also, as you were saying, you altered the basic ii-V-I progressionin E:
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
It would do you well to know how to write your chords properly. If you were indeed talking about ii-V-I, F#7#9 as far as I know is not a ii chord but a II chord, since it's a major chord, based on your notation. It would do you good to know how to write your notes if you're really seeking clarity and credibility.
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grammar cop: kindly give an example of this progression uhm...typewritten by you... (not "yours", right?)
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
i've never seen the 1st and 3rd chord in my whole life...can you give samples?
love,
theory cop
It's the same progression, only notated (for the lack of a more accurate term) in a different key. But anyhow for your benefit:
In E:
bVII9-IV7-II7#7-V7
DM9 A7 F#7#9 B7
Now in D, the same chords can still work, but when you use that system it becomes different:
I9 IV7 III#7#9 VI7
DM9 A7 F#7#9 B7
Now, if I get you correctly are you telling me to cite examples of songs that feature a progression in I-III, or examples of I-III progressions? Please clarify. I'll help you to the best of my ability (now, is this sanitized enough for you guys?).
Music Theory majors, please correct me on these matters. My knowledge of proper notation only comes from a fair share of Sessions columns from my GP magazines, which basically amounts to not a lot. Thanks.
The "theory cop" tag is so hilarious, I have to admit. It's so goddamn PREPOSTEROUS that it's so funny. 8) Kudos to you on that, mate.
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grammar cop: kindly give an example of this progression uhm...typewritten by you... (not "yours", right?)
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
i've never seen the 1st and 3rd chord in my whole life...can you give samples?
love,
theory cop
ahhh... a I - V - III - VI progression in the key of D. nyehe.. anyway, its not a really appealing progression, kasi kung yung(o tagalog na ito)III - VI,, II - V din yun ng E.. mas appealing kung after ng B7 kasi nga ive made the vi a major, kung vi sana eh maganda rin na magresolve sa G(IV) kaso ginawa ko B7, kaya sana E siya.. eh kaso sinubukan kong wag ibalik sa E, kung ibebase ko sa key of E. kaya balik sa D.. weird ang pagresolve niya from a major VI to a I. pero kasi nga gusto ko marinig kung pano gagawin ng mga magpopost, kaso naging DEBATE forum,, nakupow! :lol:
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grammar cop: kindly give an example of this progression uhm...typewritten by you... (not "yours", right?)
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
i've never seen the 1st and 3rd chord in my whole life...can you give samples?
love,
theory cop
It's the same progression, only notated (for the lack of a more accurate term) in a different key. But anyhow for your benefit:
In E:
bVII9-IV7-II7#7-V7
DM9 A7 F#7#9 B7
Now in D, the same chords can still work, but when you use that system it becomes different:
I9 IV7 III#7#9 VI7
DM9 A7 F#7#9 B7
Now, if I get you correctly are you telling me to cite examples of songs that feature a progression in I-III, or examples of I-III progressions? Please clarify. I'll help you to the best of my ability (now, is this sanitized enough for you guys?).
Music Theory majors, please correct me on these matters. My knowledge of proper notation only comes from a fair share of Sessions columns from my GP magazines, which basically amounts to not a lot. Thanks.
The "theory cop" tag is so hilarious, I have to admit. It's so goddamn PREPOSTEROUS that it's so funny. 8) Kudos to you on that, mate.
BRO, hehe, i apologize then i offended you and even dared you to post songs,, haha! i was asking you to find songs with I - V - III - VI progressions.. well, hmmm.. may nakita ako I - V - III - VI kaso followed siya by a ii - V, so clear ang pagbalik sa I.. hehehe, and that was classical music, forgot the site na. :lol:
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Wait wait, mejo nawengwang ako sa explanation mo, puro kasi comma hahahahaha. Pero if I get you correctly:
1. Ayaw mo ng I-III kasi inde maganda rehistro sa tenga mo, tama? Walang issue dun, tenga mo yun e. :)
2. Gusto mo ng II-V based run kasi maganda rehistro sa tenga mo, tama?
Walang issue dun, tenga mo yun e. :)
Ako naman, mas gusto ko shang tingnan from the key of E. The first chord (DM9) is the flatted 7th of the key of E, so technically even if you start with DM9, it's not in the key of D if you take it from the point of view of E. Gets ba? Or malabo explanation ko.
On the thread turned into a debate question: Kaya nga sabi ko ipost mo sa April 7th jam thread para aralin ng mga pupunta tapos pakikinggan. Sana may pianista din para mas marami tayong extension and inversions. But then again, we have at least 2 guitar players on stage, so that leaves space for 12 simultaneous notes. Hmmm.....
progressive_pilipinas, I'll bring some manuscript paper para madali ifigure out yung mga inversions plus extensions.
grammar cop: kindly give an example of this progression uhm...typewritten by you... (not "yours", right?)
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
i've never seen the 1st and 3rd chord in my whole life...can you give samples?
love,
theory cop
ahhh... a I - V - III - VI progression in the key of D. nyehe.. anyway, its not a really appealing progression, kasi kung yung(o tagalog na ito)III - VI,, II - V din yun ng E.. mas appealing kung after ng B7 kasi nga ive made the vi a major, kung vi sana eh maganda rin na magresolve sa G(IV) kaso ginawa ko B7, kaya sana E siya.. eh kaso sinubukan kong wag ibalik sa E, kung ibebase ko sa key of E. kaya balik sa D.. weird ang pagresolve niya from a major VI to a I. pero kasi nga gusto ko marinig kung pano gagawin ng mga magpopost, kaso naging DEBATE forum,, nakupow! :lol:
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Wait wait, mejo nawengwang ako sa explanation mo, puro kasi comma hahahahaha. Pero if I get you correctly:
1. Ayaw mo ng I-III kasi inde maganda rehistro sa tenga mo, tama? Walang issue dun, tenga mo yun e. :)
2. Gusto mo ng II-V based run kasi maganda rehistro sa tenga mo, tama?
Walang issue dun, tenga mo yun e. :)
Ako naman, mas gusto ko shang tingnan from the key of E. The first chord (DM9) is the flatted 7th of the key of E, so technically even if you start with DM9, it's not in the key of D if you take it from the point of view of E. Gets ba? Or malabo explanation ko.
On the thread turned into a debate question: Kaya nga sabi ko ipost mo sa April 7th jam thread para aralin ng mga pupunta tapos pakikinggan. Sana may pianista din para mas marami tayong extension and inversions. But then again, we have at least 2 guitar players on stage, so that leaves space for 12 simultaneous notes. Hmmm.....
progressive_pilipinas, I'll bring some manuscript paper para madali ifigure out yung mga inversions plus extensions.
grammar cop: kindly give an example of this progression uhm...typewritten by you... (not "yours", right?)
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
i've never seen the 1st and 3rd chord in my whole life...can you give samples?
love,
theory cop
ahhh... a I - V - III - VI progression in the key of D. nyehe.. anyway, its not a really appealing progression, kasi kung yung(o tagalog na ito)III - VI,, II - V din yun ng E.. mas appealing kung after ng B7 kasi nga ive made the vi a major, kung vi sana eh maganda rin na magresolve sa G(IV) kaso ginawa ko B7, kaya sana E siya.. eh kaso sinubukan kong wag ibalik sa E, kung ibebase ko sa key of E. kaya balik sa D.. weird ang pagresolve niya from a major VI to a I. pero kasi nga gusto ko marinig kung pano gagawin ng mga magpopost, kaso naging DEBATE forum,, nakupow! :lol:
haha! sige bro, dala ka ng mga babasahin kung makakadala ka,, hehe,
about yung sa pagkakaintindi mo,, gets ko na ibebebase mo siya sa E,,
anyway. kita kits sa 7!! wohoo!!
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PRSMan: Regarding the oas issue, I don't think a comparison is really necessary but rather a re-evaluation of the over-sensitivity of a lot of people here towards assertive (note NO AGGRESSIVE) rhetoric. If you can't stand strong attitudes, then live in solitude. To use your interjection, GEEZ.
GEEZ... pre, ang feeling mo naman... think you're tough? Or are you just a wannabe tough guy? Will you be as tough when you're face to face with other forum members? No need to answer... I've seen your picture... ooohh... you look soooo tough...
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i'm not getting antsy over your "mundane" matter. i'm getting antsy coz of the fact that you're being a condescending pri|ck to people in this forum. you sound like you know it all...why don't you put your money where your mouth is and let us hear some of your playing?
i don't know zappa's discography...i'll give you that. but you know what i was talking about. i was apparently quoting the title of an album...oooooweeeee...BIIIIIG MISTAKE...
i guess you're an "english" virtuoso...what are you doing in GUITAR CENTER?
(Now who's getting antsy over such a mundane matter as his grammar being criticized? Haha.)
Hahaha, I laugh at your general direction. You don't even know that it's a complete boxed set. And tell me, how can you quote something that has no lyrics?
This is a real quote from FZ: Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.
And after reading this, I tend to agree.
to quote your avatar's song
Shut Up & Play Your Guitar (you smart a$$)
this isn't an english grammar thread it's a guitar thread...go to pinoyexchange or something, man...
If you review your grammar lessons, "my" is a possessive pronoun.
PRSMan: Regarding the oas issue, I don't think a comparison is really necessary but rather a re-evaluation of the over-sensitivity of a lot of people here towards assertive (note NO AGGRESSIVE) rhetoric. If you can't stand strong attitudes, then live in solitude. To use your interjection, GEEZ.
dude...nobody really OWNS a chord progression...he probably meant that that was the chord progression that HE provided...take it easy...jesus christ...don't be so friggin' antsy...just solo over the goddamn thing, will ya?
DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
hmmm.. well if you are trying to give me an insult, good luck.
you could say that i dont own it.. if thats what you want and if that satisfies your ego. darnel was referring to a standard where i got that one, well i didnt get that from any standard or tunes or anything. like who gave joe pass the right to his own lines and progressions? did he have to apply for something? license to own progression? think well bro, give me a jazz progression exactly as i stated above,
DM9 - A7 -F#7#9 - B7.. if you find one i hope youll be happy..
E9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7. well this might be the progression you might be fighting for.. ahhh
let me tell you something bro, if youre trying to point out something do it in a nice way, ok
Joe Pass didn't claim it was his, while you did in in bold and all caps.
And what you said doesn't prove anything. It just means you haven't done your share of listening.
Also, as you were saying, you altered the basic ii-V-I progressionin E:
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
It would do you well to know how to write your chords properly. If you were indeed talking about ii-V-I, F#7#9 as far as I know is not a ii chord but a II chord, since it's a major chord, based on your notation. It would do you good to know how to write your notes if you're really seeking clarity and credibility.
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PRSMan: Regarding the oas issue, I don't think a comparison is really necessary but rather a re-evaluation of the over-sensitivity of a lot of people here towards assertive (note NO AGGRESSIVE) rhetoric. If you can't stand strong attitudes, then live in solitude. To use your interjection, GEEZ.
GEEZ... pre, ang feeling mo naman... think you're tough? Or are you just a wannabe tough guy? Will you be as tough when you're face to face with other forum members? No need to answer... I've seen your picture... ooohh... you look soooo tough...
Now since when did this become an issue of toughness? This is unbelievable. If you mean violent when you say tough, then you're just proving my point: that machismo-laden bastards like you are very sensitive to critical and argumentative thinking and don't possess enough brains to out argue people, hence the easy way out: violence, or as you might term it, toughness. Hahaha. What a Nazi.
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PRSMan: Regarding the oas issue, I don't think a comparison is really necessary but rather a re-evaluation of the over-sensitivity of a lot of people here towards assertive (note NO AGGRESSIVE) rhetoric. If you can't stand strong attitudes, then live in solitude. To use your interjection, GEEZ.
GEEZ... pre, ang feeling mo naman... think you're tough? Or are you just a wannabe tough guy? Will you be as tough when you're face to face with other forum members? No need to answer... I've seen your picture... ooohh... you look soooo tough...
Now since when did this become an issue of toughness? This is unbelievable. If you mean violent when you say tough, then you're just proving my point: that machismo-laden bastards like you are very sensitive to critical and argumentative thinking and don't possess enough brains to out argue people, hence the easy way out: violence, or as you might term it, toughness. Hahaha. What a Nazi.
tough is what you are trying to project of yourself by using four-letter words. does it make you feel good to mouth off that way? isn't there a better way to communicate than to use foul language?
oh, and now i'm a "machismo-laden bastard... don't possess enough brains to out argue people...". my... i'm sure you felt so good saying that. tell me, what have you achieved in life that makes you so proud of yourself?
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first of all...the flattened VII in the key of E is D (but this suggests a dominant chord and not your so called DM9...Character wise...a DM9 is an altered I chord
the A7 would be the diatonic V of D
the F#7#9 would be something called delaying resolution...but it's also an altered chord of the relative minor of A
going back...resolution to what?
to B7
another way to look at it would be from A7 (A), it would be the 6th, but an altered 6th (which is a "legal" alteration)
then from B7...altered VI of what?
D
That's the explanation...
you can't imply that it's the bVII9 of E because first of all, there's no E to begin with...and you can't say that the B7 implied it, because there's an A7
the root would be D
now if it was the original EM9...it's a totally different story...but it's not there...so...
go figure...
imbento ang theory mo pareng titser_marco
thing is ... you don'g get me at all...
let's hear a sample...
or you can explain how you would approach soloing over this progression...
grammar cop: kindly give an example of this progression uhm...typewritten by you... (not "yours", right?)
bVII9-IV-II7#7-V7
i've never seen the 1st and 3rd chord in my whole life...can you give samples?
love,
theory cop
It's the same progression, only notated (for the lack of a more accurate term) in a different key. But anyhow for your benefit:
In E:
bVII9-IV7-II7#7-V7
DM9 A7 F#7#9 B7
Now in D, the same chords can still work, but when you use that system it becomes different:
I9 IV7 III#7#9 VI7
DM9 A7 F#7#9 B7
Now, if I get you correctly are you telling me to cite examples of songs that feature a progression in I-III, or examples of I-III progressions? Please clarify. I'll help you to the best of my ability (now, is this sanitized enough for you guys?).
Music Theory majors, please correct me on these matters. My knowledge of proper notation only comes from a fair share of Sessions columns from my GP magazines, which basically amounts to not a lot. Thanks.
The "theory cop" tag is so hilarious, I have to admit. It's so goddamn PREPOSTEROUS that it's so funny. 8) Kudos to you on that, mate.
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you think you're so smart and try to impress people here with your impeccable english speaking skills...BIG EFFIN' DEAL! yung mga basurero dito sa US magaling din mag english...
speak some Swahili...that'll impress the living [gooey brown stuff] outta me...
diyan mo tinitira mga tao eh...sa inggles mo...eh never naman nagka "perfect english" topic dito sa forum eh...atsaka pilipino tayo...tawanan mo pag magkamali magsalita ng tagalog (o kung ano mang dialect)
di porke't mali mali ang english ng mga ibang tao dito at ikaw perfect english nakakalamang ka na...english is our second language...it's just a form of communication, just like any other form. galing galing mo nga mag enlish di ka naman makaintindi ng maayos...sablay parin...
may pa who the fcuk who the fcuk ka pa diyan...
tigilan mo nga ako...nakakairita pag naiisip ko yung mukha mo sabay narerelate ko sa pagsasalita mo eh...
parang unggoy na tumatahol...di bagay...
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The flatted VII can be a 9th chord. It doesnt necessarily mean that a dominant chord should be there with the b7th as the root. In the key of C, I can play a Bb9 to follow a bVII9 chord. What you're trying to say is that the bVII should be a VII7, which is a very common change.
first of all...the flattened VII in the key of E is D (but this suggests a dominant chord and not your so called DM9...Character wise...a DM9 is an altered I chord
the A7 would be the diatonic V of D
the F#7#9 would be something called delaying resolution...but it's also an altered chord of the relative minor of A
going back...resolution to what?
to B7
another way to look at it would be from A7 (A), it would be the 6th, but an altered 6th (which is a "legal" alteration)
then from B7...altered VI of what?
D
That's the explanation...
That's precisely why it's called "implied" because the tonic is not explicitly stated. If "there was an E to begin with" it's not going to be implied then.
Like I said, looking at D as the I chord would be looking at it from the key of D. But refer to my previous post for another angle at this.
you can't imply that it's the bVII9 of E because first of all, there's no E to begin with...and you can't say that the B7 implied it, because there's an A7
the root would be D
now if it was the original EM9...it's a totally different story...but it's not there...so...
go figure...
imbento ang theory mo pareng titser_marco
thing is ... you don'g get me at all...
let's hear a sample...
or you can explain how you would approach soloing over this progression...
Like I said, I'm sure everyone here would solo over this progression and I'm sure they're miles ahead of in terms of speed, (or soul! hahahaha) or whatever parameter you insist on. What's sad is that ideas can come to me anytime, but I'm not physically blessed with speed and some such stuff so I can only do the things I know. I'm sure that's what you wanted to hear: a statement that resembles surrender or something. If you're looking at a guitar battle, I plead no contest: you are obviously a guitarist; I'm a musician. What interests me in this particular chord change are the extensions or the upper partials to create more tension, not what melodic possiblities are present. I'll leave that to you because you're all better than me in terms of that.
And to tell you frankly, what I said wasn't even a theory. It was a simple matter of explaining things in musical terms, and would not go into your habit of being preposterous (look it up, will ya?). A theory encompasses a lot of phenomena.
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the 7th of the E is a D#7b5...or a half diminished...if you extend the chord to a 9th...it would be a D#9b5
so you wanna flat it? fine
D9...but it's DEFINITELY not a DM9...(yes, those are 2 different things) because the M of a D is a C# oh...but a C# is the 6th of E...so now we're all [strawberry] ed up and going in circles, aren't we? a D9 WON'T HAVE a "C#"
don't make things harder than they already are...
well, technically, you can play any chord you want...in any chord progression, in any key...kinda like chromaticism...don't mean it'll sound right...or if it will even sound jazzy...it can sound plain ol' dumb...
you can come up with all the theories you want...whatever floats your boat man...
another thing...the E WASN'T EVEN IMPLIED! This is just a case of delaying resolution...like in a blues shuffle when every chord is a dominant...it's a dominant but not treated as a V...i can imply ANY NOTE AND ANY TONAL CENTER HERE...if i were to use your definition...
The flatted VII can be a 9th chord. It doesnt necessarily mean that a dominant chord should be there with the b7th as the root. In the key of C, I can play a Bb9 to follow a bVII9 chord. What you're trying to say is that the bVII should be a VII7, which is a very common change.
first of all...the flattened VII in the key of E is D (but this suggests a dominant chord and not your so called DM9...Character wise...a DM9 is an altered I chord
the A7 would be the diatonic V of D
the F#7#9 would be something called delaying resolution...but it's also an altered chord of the relative minor of A
going back...resolution to what?
to B7
another way to look at it would be from A7 (A), it would be the 6th, but an altered 6th (which is a "legal" alteration)
then from B7...altered VI of what?
D
That's the explanation...
That's precisely why it's called "implied" because the tonic is not explicitly stated. If "there was an E to begin with" it's not going to be implied then.
Like I said, looking at D as the I chord would be looking at it from the key of D. But refer to my previous post for another angle at this.
you can't imply that it's the bVII9 of E because first of all, there's no E to begin with...and you can't say that the B7 implied it, because there's an A7
the root would be D
now if it was the original EM9...it's a totally different story...but it's not there...so...
go figure...
imbento ang theory mo pareng titser_marco
thing is ... you don'g get me at all...
let's hear a sample...
or you can explain how you would approach soloing over this progression...
Like I said, I'm sure everyone here would solo over this progression and I'm sure they're miles ahead of in terms of speed, (or soul! hahahaha) or whatever parameter you insist on. What's sad is that ideas can come to me anytime, but I'm not physically blessed with speed and some such stuff so I can only do the things I know. I'm sure that's what you wanted to hear: a statement that resembles surrender or something. If you're looking at a guitar battle, I plead no contest: you are obviously a guitarist; I'm a musician. What interests me in this particular chord change are the extensions or the upper partials to create more tension, not what melodic possiblities are present. I'll leave that to you because you're all better than me in terms of that.
And to tell you frankly, what I said wasn't even a theory. It was a simple matter of explaining things in musical terms, and would not go into your habit of being preposterous (look it up, will ya?). A theory encompasses a lot of phenomena.
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hey..you laughed when i said "theory cop"...so i explained...
you even spoke like some old english d|ckhead
"HAHAHHA I laugh at your general direction"
oh so now you're gonna back down saying you're just "interested in the upper partials blah blah blah" and you're just "explaining in musical terms"
the tensions are there to add excitement to the resolution...you can add tension to any chord...but if you're not gonna resolve it...then your music is pointless...unless you can pull it off in some unorthodox musical way...which i don't hear you doing...
a statement that resembles surrender is EXACTLY what i'm looking for...coz you clearly don't know what you're talking about theory wise (no, i wouldn't doubt your oh so precious enlish speaking/typing skills)...when you start naming musical terms, and discussing such topics you sure as hell better back it up with some playing or some REAL knowledge...
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Question. Do you really have to know the theory behind everything in a "mental" sense. For me it was a stumbling rock. Steve Vai had a better approach to progressions. He said you should just start off with simple chords. Then next, change the voicings of the chords, or do chord subs. For me I use more ear than theory because when I think, I get lost. But when I hear the chords, I just get satisfied. I just feel it is ridiculous to remember a gazillion chord progressions when a lot of variations can be done with a I-vi-ii-V7. For me it starts from there.
On a higher note, I think the real jazzers didn't really know what they were doing in a theoretical sense.
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nakupu..
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ahah! Here's where the confusion sets in! You're talkinag about a diatonic chord then.
Get out of the 18th century will ya? Atonality was already here in the early 20th century.
the 7th of the E is a D#7b5...or a half diminished...if you extend the chord to a 9th...it would be a D#9b5
so you wanna flat it? fine
D9...but it's DEFINITELY not a DM9...(yes, those are 2 different things) because the M of a D is a C# oh...but a C# is the 6th of E...so now we're all [strawberry] ed up and going in circles, aren't we? a D9 WON'T HAVE a "C#"
don't make things harder than they already are...
well, technically, you can play any chord you want...in any chord progression, in any key...kinda like chromaticism...don't mean it'll sound right...or if it will even sound jazzy...it can sound plain ol' dumb...
you can come up with all the theories you want...whatever floats your boat man...
another thing...the E WASN'T EVEN IMPLIED! This is just a case of delaying resolution...like in a blues shuffle when every chord is a dominant...it's a dominant but not treated as a V...i can imply ANY NOTE AND ANY TONAL CENTER HERE...if i were to use your definition...
The flatted VII can be a 9th chord. It doesnt necessarily mean that a dominant chord should be there with the b7th as the root. In the key of C, I can play a Bb9 to follow a bVII9 chord. What you're trying to say is that the bVII should be a VII7, which is a very common change.
first of all...the flattened VII in the key of E is D (but this suggests a dominant chord and not your so called DM9...Character wise...a DM9 is an altered I chord
the A7 would be the diatonic V of D
the F#7#9 would be something called delaying resolution...but it's also an altered chord of the relative minor of A
going back...resolution to what?
to B7
another way to look at it would be from A7 (A), it would be the 6th, but an altered 6th (which is a "legal" alteration)
then from B7...altered VI of what?
D
That's the explanation...
That's precisely why it's called "implied" because the tonic is not explicitly stated. If "there was an E to begin with" it's not going to be implied then.
Like I said, looking at D as the I chord would be looking at it from the key of D. But refer to my previous post for another angle at this.
you can't imply that it's the bVII9 of E because first of all, there's no E to begin with...and you can't say that the B7 implied it, because there's an A7
the root would be D
now if it was the original EM9...it's a totally different story...but it's not there...so...
go figure...
imbento ang theory mo pareng titser_marco
thing is ... you don'g get me at all...
let's hear a sample...
or you can explain how you would approach soloing over this progression...
Like I said, I'm sure everyone here would solo over this progression and I'm sure they're miles ahead of in terms of speed, (or soul! hahahaha) or whatever parameter you insist on. What's sad is that ideas can come to me anytime, but I'm not physically blessed with speed and some such stuff so I can only do the things I know. I'm sure that's what you wanted to hear: a statement that resembles surrender or something. If you're looking at a guitar battle, I plead no contest: you are obviously a guitarist; I'm a musician. What interests me in this particular chord change are the extensions or the upper partials to create more tension, not what melodic possiblities are present. I'll leave that to you because you're all better than me in terms of that.
And to tell you frankly, what I said wasn't even a theory. It was a simple matter of explaining things in musical terms, and would not go into your habit of being preposterous (look it up, will ya?). A theory encompasses a lot of phenomena.
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atonality is great...if you know how to use it right...do you know how to use it right titser_marco?
know the rules, then break 'em...
seems to me you never even heard the rules...or you probably just read 'em off a little book you rented in the library..."how to sound like you know what you're talking about in music"
i'm not talking diatonics...i'm talking jazz, freak...
besides...what's the point of this chord progression if you're so much into atonality?
ahah! Here's where the confusion sets in! You're talkinag about a diatonic chord then.
Get out of the 18th century will ya? Atonality was already here in the early 20th century.
the 7th of the E is a D#7b5...or a half diminished...if you extend the chord to a 9th...it would be a D#9b5
so you wanna flat it? fine
D9...but it's DEFINITELY not a DM9...(yes, those are 2 different things) because the M of a D is a C# oh...but a C# is the 6th of E...so now we're all [strawberry] ed up and going in circles, aren't we? a D9 WON'T HAVE a "C#"
don't make things harder than they already are...
well, technically, you can play any chord you want...in any chord progression, in any key...kinda like chromaticism...don't mean it'll sound right...or if it will even sound jazzy...it can sound plain ol' dumb...
you can come up with all the theories you want...whatever floats your boat man...
another thing...the E WASN'T EVEN IMPLIED! This is just a case of delaying resolution...like in a blues shuffle when every chord is a dominant...it's a dominant but not treated as a V...i can imply ANY NOTE AND ANY TONAL CENTER HERE...if i were to use your definition...
The flatted VII can be a 9th chord. It doesnt necessarily mean that a dominant chord should be there with the b7th as the root. In the key of C, I can play a Bb9 to follow a bVII9 chord. What you're trying to say is that the bVII should be a VII7, which is a very common change.
first of all...the flattened VII in the key of E is D (but this suggests a dominant chord and not your so called DM9...Character wise...a DM9 is an altered I chord
the A7 would be the diatonic V of D
the F#7#9 would be something called delaying resolution...but it's also an altered chord of the relative minor of A
going back...resolution to what?
to B7
another way to look at it would be from A7 (A), it would be the 6th, but an altered 6th (which is a "legal" alteration)
then from B7...altered VI of what?
D
That's the explanation...
That's precisely why it's called "implied" because the tonic is not explicitly stated. If "there was an E to begin with" it's not going to be implied then.
Like I said, looking at D as the I chord would be looking at it from the key of D. But refer to my previous post for another angle at this.
you can't imply that it's the bVII9 of E because first of all, there's no E to begin with...and you can't say that the B7 implied it, because there's an A7
the root would be D
now if it was the original EM9...it's a totally different story...but it's not there...so...
go figure...
imbento ang theory mo pareng titser_marco
thing is ... you don'g get me at all...
let's hear a sample...
or you can explain how you would approach soloing over this progression...
Like I said, I'm sure everyone here would solo over this progression and I'm sure they're miles ahead of in terms of speed, (or soul! hahahaha) or whatever parameter you insist on. What's sad is that ideas can come to me anytime, but I'm not physically blessed with speed and some such stuff so I can only do the things I know. I'm sure that's what you wanted to hear: a statement that resembles surrender or something. If you're looking at a guitar battle, I plead no contest: you are obviously a guitarist; I'm a musician. What interests me in this particular chord change are the extensions or the upper partials to create more tension, not what melodic possiblities are present. I'll leave that to you because you're all better than me in terms of that.
And to tell you frankly, what I said wasn't even a theory. It was a simple matter of explaining things in musical terms, and would not go into your habit of being preposterous (look it up, will ya?). A theory encompasses a lot of phenomena.
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i'm still waiting for a sample titser_marco...still waiting here...
i wanna hear how good your "atonality" sounds like compared to our 18th century music...
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the jazzers DID know what they were doing...that's the misconception...it's free flowing, but it's far from unstructured...take coltrane's giant steps for example...one of the greatest jazz tunes in the world...it sounds like a rambling of notes...but those notes are actually based on a descending augmented triad and a mixtur of ii-V's that lead to the next of three tonal centers B, Eb, and G...
chord substitutions (chords with 3 or more notes can be substituted for each other) eg superimposition
the HW diminished scale natural used over a V chord as it adds tension to the coming of the I chord...
etc etc etc...
one thing they also had, however, was the ability to mix theory, melody, with unusual rhythms and contour...that's why it sounds the way it sounds...
Question. Do you really have to know the theory behind everything in a "mental" sense. For me it was a stumbling rock. Steve Vai had a better approach to progressions. He said you should just start off with simple chords. Then next, change the voicings of the chords, or do chord subs. For me I use more ear than theory because when I think, I get lost. But when I hear the chords, I just get satisfied. I just feel it is ridiculous to remember a gazillion chord progressions when a lot of variations can be done with a I-vi-ii-V7. For me it starts from there.
On a higher note, I think the real jazzers didn't really know what they were doing in a theoretical sense.
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
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Di tayo aabot sa ganito kung puro root-fifth lang ang progression nyahahahehehe.
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
Ikaw pa eh 'da madman' ka.
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
+ INFINITY....ako widow lang ako....hindi ako marunong sa mg pip, root, o anong ewan .
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the jazzers DID know what they were doing...that's the misconception...it's free flowing, but it's far from unstructured...take coltrane's giant steps for example...one of the greatest jazz tunes in the world...it sounds like a rambling of notes...but those notes are actually based on a descending augmented triad and a mixtur of ii-V's that lead to the next of three tonal centers B, Eb, and G...
chord substitutions (chords with 3 or more notes can be substituted for each other) eg superimposition
the HW diminished scale natural used over a V chord as it adds tension to the coming of the I chord...
etc etc etc...
one thing they also had, however, was the ability to mix theory, melody, with unusual rhythms and contour...that's why it sounds the way it sounds...
Question. Do you really have to know the theory behind everything in a "mental" sense. For me it was a stumbling rock. Steve Vai had a better approach to progressions. He said you should just start off with simple chords. Then next, change the voicings of the chords, or do chord subs. For me I use more ear than theory because when I think, I get lost. But when I hear the chords, I just get satisfied. I just feel it is ridiculous to remember a gazillion chord progressions when a lot of variations can be done with a I-vi-ii-V7. For me it starts from there.
On a higher note, I think the real jazzers didn't really know what they were doing in a theoretical sense.
I love Giant steps! But I think the harmonic component in jazz is more challenging than the melodic component. I dunno, but playing over changes seems easy for me, but the chordal approach can drive me nuts sometimes.
Kung sa bagay, sabi nila, If you suck without theory, you'll suck more with theory. You'll suck with more notes.
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
+ INFINITY....ako widow lang ako....hindi ako marunong sa mg pip, root, o anong ewan .
D mo kilala si pip? Ung ka lab tim ni ate guy?
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
+ INFINITY....ako widow lang ako....hindi ako marunong sa mg pip, root, o anong ewan .
Phil, nagulat ako, sa Tagalog-English dictionary natin. The proper term is "UWIDO" - to play by ear.
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
+ INFINITY....ako widow lang ako....hindi ako marunong sa mg pip, root, o anong ewan .
D mo kilala si pip? Ung ka lab tim ni ate guy?
sira!!! peeeps yun no!!! ghay en peeeepsss.
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Di tayo aabot sa ganito kung puro root-fifth lang ang progression nyahahahehehe.
+1 hehehe basta ako ok na sa blues, modes and some alternate scales.. basta hindi tunog pogi rock!
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Kung sa bagay, sabi nila, If you suck without theory, you'll suck more with theory. You'll suck with more notes.
sino sila sa sabi nila?
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
+ INFINITY....ako widow lang ako....hindi ako marunong sa mg pip, root, o anong ewan .
Phil, nagulat ako, sa Tagalog-English dictionary natin. The proper term is "UWIDO" - to play by ear.
tenks ha ...I'll remember that from now on....amen.
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Kung sa bagay, sabi nila, If you suck without theory, you'll suck more with theory. You'll suck with more notes.
sino sila sa sabi nila?
That's a universal thought, at least in my book. Might work for most, but not for all. Got it from someone else's sig I can't remember...
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a lot of jazz is diatonic, cretin. and let me ask you this: do you even know people who wrote serial/atonal music?
Your arguments are lame, and resorting to cliches (know the rules, then break 'em...). This didn't even start out as a contest of skills. What a loser.
If you want to hear my playing, buy my band's cd. It's not even my obligation to play for you. Heck, you're not even paying.
atonality is great...if you know how to use it right...do you know how to use it right titser_marco?
know the rules, then break 'em...
seems to me you never even heard the rules...or you probably just read 'em off a little book you rented in the library..."how to sound like you know what you're talking about in music"
i'm not talking diatonics...i'm talking jazz, freak...
besides...what's the point of this chord progression if you're so much into atonality?
ahah! Here's where the confusion sets in! You're talkinag about a diatonic chord then.
Get out of the 18th century will ya? Atonality was already here in the early 20th century.
the 7th of the E is a D#7b5...or a half diminished...if you extend the chord to a 9th...it would be a D#9b5
so you wanna flat it? fine
D9...but it's DEFINITELY not a DM9...(yes, those are 2 different things) because the M of a D is a C# oh...but a C# is the 6th of E...so now we're all [strawberry] ed up and going in circles, aren't we? a D9 WON'T HAVE a "C#"
don't make things harder than they already are...
well, technically, you can play any chord you want...in any chord progression, in any key...kinda like chromaticism...don't mean it'll sound right...or if it will even sound jazzy...it can sound plain ol' dumb...
you can come up with all the theories you want...whatever floats your boat man...
another thing...the E WASN'T EVEN IMPLIED! This is just a case of delaying resolution...like in a blues shuffle when every chord is a dominant...it's a dominant but not treated as a V...i can imply ANY NOTE AND ANY TONAL CENTER HERE...if i were to use your definition...
The flatted VII can be a 9th chord. It doesnt necessarily mean that a dominant chord should be there with the b7th as the root. In the key of C, I can play a Bb9 to follow a bVII9 chord. What you're trying to say is that the bVII should be a VII7, which is a very common change.
first of all...the flattened VII in the key of E is D (but this suggests a dominant chord and not your so called DM9...Character wise...a DM9 is an altered I chord
the A7 would be the diatonic V of D
the F#7#9 would be something called delaying resolution...but it's also an altered chord of the relative minor of A
going back...resolution to what?
to B7
another way to look at it would be from A7 (A), it would be the 6th, but an altered 6th (which is a "legal" alteration)
then from B7...altered VI of what?
D
That's the explanation...
That's precisely why it's called "implied" because the tonic is not explicitly stated. If "there was an E to begin with" it's not going to be implied then.
Like I said, looking at D as the I chord would be looking at it from the key of D. But refer to my previous post for another angle at this.
you can't imply that it's the bVII9 of E because first of all, there's no E to begin with...and you can't say that the B7 implied it, because there's an A7
the root would be D
now if it was the original EM9...it's a totally different story...but it's not there...so...
go figure...
imbento ang theory mo pareng titser_marco
thing is ... you don'g get me at all...
let's hear a sample...
or you can explain how you would approach soloing over this progression...
Like I said, I'm sure everyone here would solo over this progression and I'm sure they're miles ahead of in terms of speed, (or soul! hahahaha) or whatever parameter you insist on. What's sad is that ideas can come to me anytime, but I'm not physically blessed with speed and some such stuff so I can only do the things I know. I'm sure that's what you wanted to hear: a statement that resembles surrender or something. If you're looking at a guitar battle, I plead no contest: you are obviously a guitarist; I'm a musician. What interests me in this particular chord change are the extensions or the upper partials to create more tension, not what melodic possiblities are present. I'll leave that to you because you're all better than me in terms of that.
And to tell you frankly, what I said wasn't even a theory. It was a simple matter of explaining things in musical terms, and would not go into your habit of being preposterous (look it up, will ya?). A theory encompasses a lot of phenomena.
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That's a universal thought, at least in my book
what's that book called? where can you get that book?...is it really YOUR book? someone might get mad...grammatically speaking, t's not YOUR book...it's the author's book...you merely own a copy of HIS/HER book...
be careful when you say "MY"....
someone here might go
"who the fcuk sait it was your book???"
and that'll start a whole new heated argument...
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wow! i'm a cretin! nice...what's a cretin by the way? cretin sounds like a thin, lanky dude with a bigotilyo...hmmm...that can't be me...hey! that sounds kinda like you! i think i'm more of a fatty...
where can i buy this cd of yours titser_marco? i'd like to hear what atonal music sounds like...
right...maybe by your definition of diatonic, alot of jazz is diatonic...since you like making stuff up anyway...
you know what? don't question me with who wrote blah blah blah...coz you and i both know that that stuff is easily researchable on the internet...i can read about it, just like you probably did...so i won't even bother...what you can't research though would be a sample of your playing...now THAT'S an awesome example...send me a clip, a byte, a bit...i can name that tune in ONE note! just like the game show...
halika, bilhin ko cd mo ng mapakinggan ko...i'll send some money to a friend there to buy your cd...then i'll ask him to send it to me so i can hear the wonderful music that you play...i'm not kidding either...gimme the details...i'll write you a check...do you accept paypal?
IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION to let us all hear a sample by the way, otherwise your posts aren't worth [gooey brown stuff]...so prove me wrong....SHOW ME SOME GOOD ATONAL MUSIC! game!
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i'm not asking you to solo or to show off your skills...i'm asking you to post a clip of the so called progression that you made up...so we can hear how wonderful they sound...and how it affects us musically...let's hear it...
i'm not talking about skill...i'm talking theory man...
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Why is everyone in such a feisty mood ? Must be the time of the month for a lot of us nyahehehe.
Saka yung me bigotilyo...hindi si Marco yan. If I'm not mistaken, that's Frank Zappa.
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Why is everyone in such a feisty mood ? Must be the time of the month for a lot of us nyahehehe.
tayo na sa guitar center ....bili tayo ng amp head. (just like the wives do when they get pissed)
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oh i've seen pics of our english guru here...i wasn't referring to the avatar...
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oh i've seen pics of our english guru here...i wasn't referring to the avatar...
saan pre...? :lol:
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the mugshots (and what an appropriate title too) thread...
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
mag-Flash tsaka Photoshop na lang tayo, chief. hehehe.
i believe i saw a pic of him din somewhere sa Post Your Gear Pics thread. :?:
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buti n lang pala di ako magaling, sa english at gitara.. nakakatakot pala pag gumaling ka .....
peace :D
mag-Flash tsaka Photoshop na lang tayo, chief. hehehe.
onga bro.. flash n lng tyo, at least di tyo away :D
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Want me to "flash" my "tube" ? Nyahehehe.
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oi titser_marco, antok nako...bukas nalang ulit...tagal mo eh...
love,
cretin
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Want me to "flash" my "tube" ? Nyahehehe.
hahahaha! :lol:
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O ayan. Maikli pero mataba. Sounds orgasmic too.
Ika nga ng The Wuds...Oy put*ngina, TAMA NA AWAY !!!
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7199/imag21583tp.jpg)
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the mugshots (and what an appropriate title too) thread...
...tenks bro.
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O ayan. Maikli pero mataba. Sounds orgasmic too.
Ika nga ng The Wuds...Oy put*ngina, TAMA NA AWAY !!!
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7199/imag21583tp.jpg)
wow yaman :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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onga bro.. flash n lng tyo, at least di tyo away :D
mahirap din yan pag nag-away ang mga designers. kaya nakakatakot magpost ng picture sa internet e. hehehe.
:twisted:
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onga bro.. flash n lng tyo, at least di tyo away :D
mahirap din yan pag nag-away ang mga designers. kaya nakakatakot magpost ng picture sa internet e. hehehe.
:twisted:
amen
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Thanks, BAMF for knocking some sense into this thread. As for markflo, I don't think I need to prove anything to anyone, especially you. I'll make music if I want to - all up to you if you want to get it. And besides, I LISTEN to atonal stuff, but I don't listen to it. Because I know what I can do and don't find it necessary to challenge anyone. Like you.
This'll be my last word on this thread-turned-into-a-mudslinging-contest-thanks-to-some-pretentious-guy-who's-pretending -to-be-all-knowing.
BAMF, ang tanong - BIASED ba yan? And makakahanap ka ba ng socket na match para jan? :P
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I think quarrels over musicality makes gear quarrels look like a soiree. :D
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Oo hot-biased sya. Very hot :D. Saka universal match sya sa lahat ng octal socket...masikip na socket, maluwag na socket, tuyot na socket, ma-grasang socket etc etc nyahehehe.
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oi titser_marco, antok nako...bukas nalang ulit...tagal mo eh...
love,
cretin
Naaah. You need sleep. Indulge, mate. You've made your point, I've made mine.
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Oo hot-biased sya. Very hot :D. Saka universal match sya sa lahat ng octal socket...masikip na socket, maluwag na socket, tuyot na socket, ma-grasang socket etc etc nyahehehe.
Make sure it ain't too hot. Baka ma-pundi agad. :D
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ano ba yan russian? or china made? brand new or NOS?
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Maybe we need to add this to our GAS collection...
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671723650.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
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what! dalwang oras lang ata ako ndi nagbukas eh 5pages na ito? grabe naman,, hot talaga.. haha! di ko alam kung babanggitin ko pa yung progression for solo... haha! palpak ang thread sa solo..
sige na,, ganito kasi ang naiisip ko,,,
DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7 - (E9)
ito unang dalawang chord, kapag D ang aking home ay I - V, tapos tumalon ako ng F#, para simple-> kung nasa key of D, at diatonically speaking F#m, pero sinubukan ko nga gawin altered, tapos kung diatonically speaking parin, Bm ang kasunod kaso ginawa ko naman major na may flat 7th(natakot na tuloy ako mag english.. hahaha), so B7.
ngayon ito, since to nowhere ang resolution from B7,kasi im thingking in the key of D. sa aking pandinig ay hindi siya papasok sa D, so ganito, inihiwalay ko ang F#7#9 - B7 at II -V siya papuntang E.. or E9 gaya ng sabi ko. pero kung gustong ibalik sa D,, sa tingin ko ay ok lang.. yung nga sabi ko weird. kung titignan naman siya sa perspective ng E, magagalaw ang DM9. pero ayoko naman pakialaman ang DM9..at ito pala originally that DM9 was a D9..
haaay.. tama na mga bro, hehehe,, weve all made our points lets not make this personal..
unggoy!! hahaha :lol:
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Maybe we need to add this to our GAS collection...
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671723650.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
nice.. can i win you?? hahaha! :lol:
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Maybe we need to add this to our GAS collection...
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0671723650.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
nice.. can i win you?? hahaha! :lol:
Hala.
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hay naku... add titser_marco (or should it be tita marco?) to the list of people na ma-hunting nga kapag umiwi ng pinas. taga-UP ka ba? do you think that people can't track you down?
man (or she-man judging by the way you look), you're worse than oas... or baka naman kilala mo yang si progressive and war talaga kayo nun which is why mukhang matindi galit mo sa kanya?
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I think quarrels over musicality makes gear quarrels look like a soiree. :D
ha ha... man, i actually agree with you on this one... cheers!
itong si tita marco eh matindi ang napasok sa puwet kaya pati chord progression gustong pagawayan... pa-fcuk fcuk pa... do we really need such language in a forum?
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Sabi ko sa inyo, ang angasan sa musicality mas malaking gulo kesa sa "my gear is better than your gear" bullcrap. Kasi sa gear medyo puwede ka pang maging objective sa pag-discern ng tunog. Pero pag tugtugan na, hehe, it is no olympics... But some claim to be better than the others. I met some young dumbasses who are into emo who think their band rocks much harder than most. When I saw them play, *cough* *cough*.
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I think quarrels over musicality makes gear quarrels look like a soiree. :D
ha ha... man, i actually agree with you on this one... cheers!
itong si tita marco eh matindi ang napasok sa puwet kaya pati chord progression gustong pagawayan... pa-fcuk fcuk pa... do we really need such language in a forum?
In fact, I think we do need it because it gets the point much faster. No,w let me ask you, do we really need such machismo in a forum? Don't think you can scare people because of your paltry spoiled fratboy tactics.
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hay naku... add titser_marco (or should it be tita marco?) to the list of people na ma-hunting nga kapag umiwi ng pinas. taga-UP ka ba? do you think that people can't track you down?
man (or she-man judging by the way you look), you're worse than oas... or baka naman kilala mo yang si progressive and war talaga kayo nun which is why mukhang matindi galit mo sa kanya?
To begin with, there was no quarrel. There was an argument, yes. Progressive has a lot of sense and maturity in him to take such criticism with ample objectivity, I must admit.
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Sabi ko sa inyo, ang angasan sa musicality mas malaking gulo kesa sa "my gear is better than your gear" bullcrap. Kasi sa gear medyo puwede ka pang maging objective sa pag-discern ng tunog. Pero pag tugtugan na, hehe, it is no olympics... But some claim to be better than the others. I met some young dumbasses who are into emo who think their band rocks much harder than most. When I saw them play, *cough* *cough*.
True. Which reminds me of this joke:
How many guitar players does it take to screw in a light bulb? 8D
Any takers?
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haaaay....sino ba nagsimula nang kakupalan dito? eh diba ikaw din titser?
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
apaka yabang ng dating mo kasi eh kung magpakumbaba ka nalang kasi alang problema...
In fact, I think we do need it because it gets the point much faster
you don't need such language to get the point much faster...you are the one, however, who sounds pretentious and condescending with your big word, grammar police manner of putting people down.
i never once even implied that i am all knowing...you however did...
again...what started all of this...
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
and by the way, who says we can't own a chord progression? we can ALL own a chord progression...just like we all can own a fender strat, or a les paul...nobody owns it ... so anyone can own it...same way you can make up your own theory...nobody's stopping you...why are you stopping progressive from "owning" the chord progression? he made it up...it's HIS!
so like i said, just play it goddamnit
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For once and for all...lets have a the end to this i owner this progression or not and focus more of the most important thing in the rest of our life, which is the not correct spelling of the word FCUK!
...hehe korni ko talaga!
sabi nga ni Zappa, Frank not Dweezil.... SHATAP EN PLE YO GUITA!
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See what I mean? Pare, for the nth time, expletives are not a sign of disrespect. If you see a really bitchin' guitar player and napamura ka, is that something that would fall under kakupalan? Think about it, mate.
It's sad, however, that you equate humility with keeping silent and/or being agreeable for the sake of being agreeable. Also, stop preaching about humility - you simply can't after what you've posted in several threads, including this one.
About the big words issue: like I always say, there's no such thing as a "big" word, only a more accurate one. If someone is unfamiliar with a word, there's always m-w.com
Let me end this by going back to what irked me in the first place: ownership, or the lack thereof:
we can ALL own a chord progression...just like we all can own a fender strat, or a les paul...nobody owns it ...
What is it really, Mark?
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apparently, you're not familiar with using words in context...if you see a great guitar player at napamura ka...iba yun sa pagsabi mo ng "what the fcuk gives you the right....blah blah blah"...the way you used the word WAS in a condescending and disrespective manner...like your some sort of friggin' authority...yea, right.....ngayon magtatago ka diyan sa expletives are not a sign of disrespect mo...
ang layo ng analogy mo pre...
at anong pinost ko sa ibang thread at dito sa thread na ito na mayabang? kung meron man, tinapatan ko lang ang kayabangan mo...
at least hindi ka tumatanggi na kupal ka...sabagay...obvious naman eh...
See what I mean? Pare, for the nth time, expletives are not a sign of disrespect. If you see a really bitchin' guitar player and napamura ka, is that something that would fall under kakupalan? Think about it, mate.
It's sad, however, that you equate humility with keeping silent and/or being agreeable for the sake of being agreeable. Also, stop preaching about humility - you simply can't after what you've posted in several threads, including this one.
About the big words issue: like I always say, there's no such thing as a "big" word, only a more accurate one. If someone is unfamiliar with a word, there's always m-w.com
Let me end this by going back to what irked me in the first place: ownership, or the lack thereof:
we can ALL own a chord progression...just like we all can own a fender strat, or a les paul...nobody owns it ...
What is it really, Mark?
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oh dear. :lol:
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tuninunaninanuna tuninunaninanuna - name that tune
Game!
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ano ba ito? kyna wish i didn't read this whole thread.... :-) buti na lang hanggang 3 chords lang kailangan ko, wala nang mga upper harmonic extensions chuva... wala namang may monopoly of knowledge dyan sa mga harmonic theory stuff kaso mukhang naging pataasan ng ihi pa rin dito.
at the same time, we're never too old to learn some manners... and grammar... or about figures of speech (eg, "I OWN that progression!")
let's try to get along shall we?
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whoosshh!!! init d2, summer na talaga.... 8)
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In fact, I think we do need it because it gets the point much faster.
Ah eh... talaga? So that's your theory in life eh? To get things done, magmura. Sad.
Don't think you can scare people because of your paltry spoiled fratboy tactics.
Who's trying to scare anyone? I do mean it when I say I will do my best to find you when I go home later this year. Why? To scare you? Why waste my time. I want to see what you have up your ass that is making you so uptight over... tan-tan-tan... a chord progression!
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Some of tita_marco's colorful language used so far: Fcuk, stupid people, goddam preposterous, machismo-laden bastard, cretin, and loser.
Again I ask the question... kailangan ba talaga ito? If not for tita's first fcuk blow, this would have been a more informative discussion.
Oh I forgot... pa-mate mate pa. Man, mahilig talaga mag-Ingles si tita. Tita_Marco: sa itsura mo, pre hindi bagay ang pa-mate mate.
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Some of tita_marco's colorful language used so far: Fcuk, stupid people, goddam preposterous, machismo-laden bastard, cretin, and loser.
Again I ask the question... kailangan ba talaga ito? If not for tita's first fcuk blow, this would have been a more informative discussion.
Oh I forgot... pa-mate mate pa. Man, mahilig talaga mag-Ingles si tita. Tita_Marco: sa itsura mo, pre hindi bagay ang pa-mate mate.
hahahahaha
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Baka mas effective ang pervert talk :P
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sweet child of mine :?:
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sweet child of mine :?:
Ang galing mo!!! kamalayan, tell him what he's won.
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: nakakatakot talaga pag magaling , buti n lng di ako magaling
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sweet child of mine :?:
Ang galing mo!!! kamalayan, tell him what he's won.
YOUR WIFE!!!
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sweet child of mine :?:
Ang galing mo!!! kamalayan, tell him what he's won.
YOUR WIFE!!!
BWAHAHAHA!!!
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sweet child of mine :?:
Ang galing mo!!! kamalayan, tell him what he's won.
YOUR WIFE!!!
Hmm... Wag naman. Bigay mo nalang ung artcore mo.
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o sige group hug na kayo mga macho
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/nathanmanansala/group_hug_203.jpg)
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eh e2
Tenun tentenun tentenun, tenun tentenun tentenun,tenun tentenun ten tenun, whawhaw tsaka whawahwhaw whawhaw tsaka whawahwhaw:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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o sige group hug na kayo mga macho
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/nathanmanansala/group_hug_203.jpg)
mamamatay na nko sa kakatawa!
chichichige na nga!!!!! GROUP HUG na!
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eh e2
Tenun tentenun tentenun, tenun tentenun tentenun,tenun tentenun ten tenun, whawhaw tsaka whawahwhaw whawhaw tsaka whawahwhaw:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
easy, bulls on parade...
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Some of tita_marco's colorful language used so far: Fcuk, stupid people, goddam preposterous, machismo-laden bastard, cretin, and loser.
Again I ask the question... kailangan ba talaga ito?
No.
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bwahaha, i read this thread 'cause i was curious why everyone was hating on each other. anyway, yeah, i'm all for swearing and [gooey brown stuff] but the way titser_marco used "f*ck" in that one post of his was kinda offensive. probably wasn't intended to be but that's what people and i are getting. i'd like to point out though that people can use swear words without meaning any harm. like, take james hetfield from metallica for example. he swears all the f*cking time but he doesn't mean any harm. imagine if he did though during one of their concerts: "what the f*ck? did metallica's vocalist just call us people in the audience motherf*ckers? let's go onstage and kill him!" hmmm. anyway, i think progressive_pilipinas' reply was just asking for trouble with all that "if you're trying to insult me, good luck" talk and "whatever satisfies your ego". basically, we're all to blame. :( lol.
Don't think you can scare people because of your paltry spoiled fratboy tactics.
Who's trying to scare anyone? I do mean it when I say I will do my best to find you when I go home later this year. Why? To scare you? Why waste my time. I want to see what you have up your ass that is making you so uptight over... tan-tan-tan... a chord progression!
oh wow, i love how your preaching about how horrible it is to use bad language when you're huffing and puffing going, "ohhh, i'ma getchoo when i get back to the philippines, ya heard?" sooo tough. your tough guy routine isn't exactly any better than someone who swears all the time. also, are you even reading what you're saying? your basically saying that you're someone who'll go to a different country just to "see" someone who got pissed off at a chord progression, lol. \:D/
anyway, the real reason i'm posting in this thread: what's up with members here getting pissed off at members who speak in english? i swear, whenever i get into arguments with people here they nearly always have to mention how i use english! i mean, sooo? nice to see that i'm not the only one getting the "omg! you use english! i hate you!" treatment. so weird, you guys.
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eh e2
Tenun tentenun tentenun, tenun tentenun tentenun,tenun tentenun ten tenun, whawhaw tsaka whawahwhaw whawhaw tsaka whawahwhaw:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
easy, bulls on parade...
wow ur GOOD
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wow too lazy to weed thru this thread, away na naman ba? :cry:
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AHHHHH!!!!!!
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wow too lazy to weed thru this thread, away na naman ba? :cry:
malapit na yata sila mag group hug... :lol:
(http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/img/news_daily/071705/1a_hug.jpg)
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wow too lazy to weed thru this thread, away na naman ba? :cry:
malapit na yata sila mag group hug... :lol:
(http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/img/news_daily/071705/1a_hug.jpg)
ang tagal naman ng group hug inip nako.. :cry:
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wow too lazy to weed thru this thread, away na naman ba? :cry:
A few post lang pala on the first page sumabog na :lol: ....pipol pipol naman. Stress aint good, that boiling, heart racing, stressed breathing fight or flight sensation sux. 8)
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wow too lazy to weed thru this thread, away na naman ba? :cry:
malapit na yata sila mag group hug... :lol:
(http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/img/news_daily/071705/1a_hug.jpg)
i don't think that blonde guy's trying to hug him... :o
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Here's my entry.
(http://www.srcf.ucam.org/cuhc/gal_michaelmas_2004/group_hug.jpg)
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anyway, the real reason i'm posting in this thread: what's up with members here getting pissed off at members who speak in english? i swear, whenever i get into arguments with people here they nearly always have to mention how i use english! i mean, sooo? nice to see that i'm not the only one getting the "omg! you use english! i hate you!" treatment. so weird, you guys.
That's odd, I've been in a lot of arguments. But I've never had that problem, even here (at least not explicitly). That leads me to speculate that it's the way the language is used, and not the language by itself. There'll always be people who won't take strong words kindly, regardless of language or dialect.
I've always thought that it's better and easier for everyone that I sound more neutral rather than hold it against everyone else that they don't appreciate foul mouths.
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Langya! Sandali lang akong nawala, biglang BROKEBACK na, hahaha!!! :lol:
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anyway, the real reason i'm posting in this thread: what's up with members here getting pissed off at members who speak in english? i swear, whenever i get into arguments with people here they nearly always have to mention how i use english! i mean, sooo? nice to see that i'm not the only one getting the "omg! you use english! i hate you!" treatment. so weird, you guys.
That's odd, I've been in a lot of arguments. But I've never had that problem, even here (at least not explicitly). That leads me to speculate that it's the way the language is used, and not the language by itself. There'll always be people who won't take strong words kindly, regardless of language or dialect.
I've always thought that it's better and easier for everyone that I sound more neutral rather than hold it against everyone else that they don't appreciate foul mouths.
nah, i think it's the language itself. if i wasn't lazy i'd look for these threads but... i'm lazy. basically, i'd get into an argument with someone and they'd -- out of nowhere -- say something like "bakit ka nag e-english?" or "akala mo ang galing galing mo mag english?" and i'd be like, "huuuh? what's that got to do with anything?" :shock:
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context...that's what it's all about...
kahit sabihin mo pa
"who the fcuk told you blah blah blah"
o kaya
"anong karapatan mo sabihin na blah blah blah"
either way...english or filipino...if you're an a s s hole...you're an as s hole...it'll show...
i speak english everyday at work, that's coz noone will be able to understand me if i didn't...i don't get into fights....but if you're a pr|ck...you better run...
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anyway, the real reason i'm posting in this thread: what's up with members here getting pissed off at members who speak in english? i swear, whenever i get into arguments with people here they nearly always have to mention how i use english! i mean, sooo? nice to see that i'm not the only one getting the "omg! you use english! i hate you!" treatment. so weird, you guys.
That's odd, I've been in a lot of arguments. But I've never had that problem, even here (at least not explicitly). That leads me to speculate that it's the way the language is used, and not the language by itself. There'll always be people who won't take strong words kindly, regardless of language or dialect.
I've always thought that it's better and easier for everyone that I sound more neutral rather than hold it against everyone else that they don't appreciate foul mouths.
nah, i think it's the language itself. if i wasn't lazy i'd look for these threads but... i'm lazy. basically, i'd get into an argument with someone and they'd -- out of nowhere -- say something like "bakit ka nag e-english?" or "akala mo ang galing galing mo mag english?" and i'd be like, "huuuh? what's that got to do with anything?" :shock:
nope, i don't think it's the language at all. it think it's more in how the language was used. wala naman problema sa pag-english eh, ang problema eh when you use the language in a very rude, crude manner which can be very offensive to some people. we should always remember that we aren't the only people here in the forums, nor does everyone share the same thoughts and attitudes as everyone. some people can stand foul language, some can't. some people can take criticisms in a good way, some fight back. we should be more sensitive to these things. madami talagang mga posts dito na mapapataas talaga ang kilay mo pero it's up to us how we would react to those posts. yung iba kasi resort to "attacking" those posts eh. eh minsan naman wala namang offensive intention yung nagpost. i understand na sobra talagang dali ma-misinterpret yung mga posts dito simply because it's not a personal thing. people here don't see eye to eye. so let's make the extra effort nalang to be a little more sensitive when posting comments and other stuff. para naiiwasan natin ang forum violence. kasi sa totoo lang, masaya sha basahin pero minsan nakakasawa nalang eh. away nalang ng away dito.
anyway those are just my thoughts. hulaan nyo nalang yung song na 'to:
dong donenonon de dong donenonon de dong donenonon jug jeee jugjugjugjug jeno nooon!
goodluck!
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oo nga yo busy nga rito ngayon puro away naman :roll:
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dong donenonon de dong donenonon de dong donenonon jug jeee jugjugjugjug jeno nooon!
goodluck!
Wherever I May Roam?
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anyway those are just my thoughts. hulaan nyo nalang yung song na 'to:
dong donenonon de dong donenonon de dong donenonon jug jeee jugjugjugjug jeno nooon!
goodluck!
sisiw naman... "Enter Sandman"! ;-)
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ang husay bro delta!
namida, yung wherever i may roam might go like this:
dong denenenen dong denenenen dong denenenen jeng jeng jeng jeng! hehehe
pag death metal naman:
tubatubatubatubatubatubatubatuba! (drums 'to, hehe)
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tan tan tininnnnnn.....
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tan tan tininnnnnn.....
Seek and destroy?
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oh wow, i love how your preaching about how horrible it is to use bad language when you're huffing and puffing going, "ohhh, i'ma getchoo when i get back to the philippines, ya heard?" sooo tough. your tough guy routine isn't exactly any better than someone who swears all the time. also, are you even reading what you're saying? your basically saying that you're someone who'll go to a different country just to "see" someone who got pissed off at a chord progression, lol. \:D/
me being a tough guy? oh geez... all i want is to come face to face with la tita here and see if he can say fcuk to my face... or, i at least want to know if he can say fcuk directly to progressive's face. oh and about going to the philippines? i am scheduled to be there later this year for my sister's wedding. geez... why would i go home just to see la tita marco?
anyway, the real reason i'm posting in this thread: what's up with members here getting pissed off at members who speak in english? i swear, whenever i get into arguments with people here they nearly always have to mention how i use english! i mean, sooo? nice to see that i'm not the only one getting the "omg! you use english! i hate you!" treatment. so weird, you guys.
i don't think people are getting pissed with tita marco because of his english... it's how he carries himself... cussing, condescending... typical tita. oh and i love how he says "mate"... if he's from or grew up in oz, then i'll understand... if not, give me a break... soon he'll be saying cheers like "them 'ol laddies down at the pub"... :lol:
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tan tan tininnnnnn.....
Seek and destroy?
ang lupet..... you got that in just 4 notes.... :lol:
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oh wow, i love how your preaching about how horrible it is to use bad language when you're huffing and puffing going, "ohhh, i'ma getchoo when i get back to the philippines, ya heard?" sooo tough. your tough guy routine isn't exactly any better than someone who swears all the time. also, are you even reading what you're saying? your basically saying that you're someone who'll go to a different country just to "see" someone who got pissed off at a chord progression, lol. \:D/
me being a tough guy? oh geez... all i want is to come face to face with la tita here and see if he can say fcuk to my face... or, i at least want to know if he can say fcuk directly to progressive's face. oh and about going to the philippines? i am scheduled to be there later this year for my sister's wedding. geez... why would i go home just to see la tita marco?
:lol:
PRSMAn...don't forget to post some clips and pics ha? :wink:
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mga bossing makiki daan lng po :D
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=95053#95053 :twisted:
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mga bossing makiki daan lng po :D
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=95053#95053 :twisted:
:lol: :lol:spread some love while your at it 8)
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If everyone here hates the word, 'fcuk', then I guess everyone hates Fred Durst. :D
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eh ito hulaan nyo:
tundan tundan tududundan daaaaaaan
clue: pinoy song sya.
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grabe! I left this thread last nite at 4 pages! now nasa 8 na!
:lol: :lol:
cant we just talk about Rica Peralejo?
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eh ito hulaan nyo:
tundan tundan tududundan daaaaaaan
clue: pinoy song sya.
:roll: hmm... payaso? kaso parang bitin... :lol: hindi yata hehe!
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eh ito hulaan nyo:
tundan tundan tududundan daaaaaaan
clue: pinoy song sya.
Stay by Q-shay?
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Some of tita_marco's colorful language used so far: Fcuk, stupid people, goddam preposterous, machismo-laden bastard, cretin, and loser.
Again I ask the question... kailangan ba talaga ito? If not for tita's first fcuk blow, this would have been a more informative discussion.
Oh I forgot... pa-mate mate pa. Man, mahilig talaga mag-Ingles si tita. Tita_Marco: sa itsura mo, pre hindi bagay ang pa-mate mate.
If you're so insecure of your linguistic incapabilities, I don't blame you.
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apparently, you're not familiar with using words in context...if you see a great guitar player at napamura ka...iba yun sa pagsabi mo ng "what the fcuk gives you the right....blah blah blah"...the way you used the word WAS in a condescending and disrespective manner...like your some sort of friggin' authority...yea, right.....ngayon magtatago ka diyan sa expletives are not a sign of disrespect mo...
ang layo ng analogy mo pre...
at anong pinost ko sa ibang thread at dito sa thread na ito na mayabang? kung meron man, tinapatan ko lang ang kayabangan mo...
at least hindi ka tumatanggi na kupal ka...sabagay...obvious naman eh...
Perception is always the problem in communication. If you perceive that as condescending, that's not my issue. That's your issue.
While I believe in the dichotomy of form and content, I'm seeing that the posters on this thread has put too much weight on the former.
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Interesting. That says quite a bit about some things.
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Interesting. That says quite a bit about some things.
Exactly. And if I were some guy who's very sensitive about "context" and other stuff, I'd read your post as a sarcastic one. Not to say that I do, but I reckon that's just how language works.
Your take on the thought, forum vet? You seem to be the one who's able keep your arguments within the bounds of logic in the threads I've watched.
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akuy napapa heheheh na lang dito..hehehehehhe!!!eh ano ba pinag awayan dito?hehe..akala ko ako lang ang mokong dito eh!!heheheh!!dami pala!!hehehehhe!!welcome tu da klab!!hehehhe!!!
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No sarcasm. Just simple observations I'll largely keep to myself. Anyway...
With no rules in this forum, I just anchor myself to the closest thing to one: pinoymusika (i.e. the guy that owns this site) activated a filter censoring several bad words (cusses, swears, genital parts, etc). As courtesy, I'll just respect and appreciate what I think is the reason why he has it there in the first place.
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No sarcasm. Just simple observations I'll largely keep to myself. Anyway...
With no rules in this forum, I just anchor myself to the closest thing to one: pinoymusika (i.e. the guy that owns this site) activated a filter censoring several bad words (cusses, swears, genital parts, etc). As courtesy, I'll just respect and appreciate what I think is the reason why he has it there in the first place.
Hmm. THAT gave me something to think about. Thanks.
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grabe! I left this thread last nite at 4 pages! now nasa 8 na!
:lol: :lol:
cant we just talk about Rica Peralejo?
man, na-shock ako nung nakita ko yung bagong image ni rica... wowowee! pati si jolina na rin ba? jailbait nga lang yung dalawang yan.
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i'm sure la tita marco is having fun with the pictures on pages 6 and 7...
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context...that's what it's all about...
kahit sabihin mo pa
"who the fcuk told you blah blah blah"
o kaya
"anong karapatan mo sabihin na blah blah blah"
either way...english or filipino...if you're an a s s hole...you're an as s hole...it'll show...
i speak english everyday at work, that's coz noone will be able to understand me if i didn't...i don't get into fights....but if you're a pr|ck...you better run...
I speak pretty much in the same way I communicate in forums, but I don't get into fights as well. Maybe they're tolerant of the language, may be they aren't. They may think you're an pr+ck, maybe they think that's just the way you talk. Whatever the reason behind my limbs still being intact, it all boils down to perception, man. It just so happened that A LOT of you don't like seeing or hearing such words - which is not your fault.
The two examples you mentioned, however, is something I'd like to clarify. I've seen situations in which people have been hurt by saying things that, grammatically, syntactically and lexically speaking, don''t connote aggression. When your boss says "It's time for you to look at other options outside the organization" and you happen to LOVE your job, how'd you react? I'm sure some feelings of bitterness and pain will set in, despite the absence of coarse language, not because the boss was an arse but because of perception.
I'm sure this discussion has led EVERYONE, myself especially, into a lot of insights about communicating in a forum - that a lot of people , particularly this very amusing nationality I belong to, don't take assertiveness as a virtue.
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grabe! I left this thread last nite at 4 pages! now nasa 8 na!
:lol: :lol:
cant we just talk about Rica Peralejo?
yeah. saw her at starbucks emerald last monday. she's hot in a way. cute rin.
pakilala nyo naman ako kay Cindy Curleto! Please lang! Pag pinakilala nyo ko at nag dinner kami, BIBIGAY KO UNG DS1 KEELEY MODDED KO!
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sorry to say this titser_marco, but i'm not the only one who finds your posts condescending...many others do as well...so...honestly, i'd say it's YOUR problem.
apparently, you're not familiar with using words in context...if you see a great guitar player at napamura ka...iba yun sa pagsabi mo ng "what the fcuk gives you the right....blah blah blah"...the way you used the word WAS in a condescending and disrespective manner...like your some sort of friggin' authority...yea, right.....ngayon magtatago ka diyan sa expletives are not a sign of disrespect mo...
ang layo ng analogy mo pre...
at anong pinost ko sa ibang thread at dito sa thread na ito na mayabang? kung meron man, tinapatan ko lang ang kayabangan mo...
at least hindi ka tumatanggi na kupal ka...sabagay...obvious naman eh...
Perception is always the problem in communication. If you perceive that as condescending, that's not my issue. That's your issue.
While I believe in the dichotomy of form and content, I'm seeing that the posters on this thread has put too much weight on the former.
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wait wait wait...you'd like to clarify? i just said everything depends on context. now, if your boss said that. it's a nice way of saying you're fired. fine. nice words...bad message...
that, however, isn't the case here...
again...let me quote you on this...
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
there's your clarification...the composition of the words says it all...
now if that first post wasn't meant to talk down on progressive... then, you had better start practicing your communication skills...or maybe you're just a natural a s shole...
for a guitar player...your "phrasing" sure sucks..., MATE...
context...that's what it's all about...
kahit sabihin mo pa
"who the fcuk told you blah blah blah"
o kaya
"anong karapatan mo sabihin na blah blah blah"
either way...english or filipino...if you're an a s s hole...you're an as s hole...it'll show...
i speak english everyday at work, that's coz noone will be able to understand me if i didn't...i don't get into fights....but if you're a pr|ck...you better run...
I speak pretty much in the same way I communicate in forums, but I don't get into fights as well. Maybe they're tolerant of the language, may be they aren't. They may think you're an pr+ck, maybe they think that's just the way you talk. Whatever the reason behind my limbs still being intact, it all boils down to perception, man. It just so happened that A LOT of you don't like seeing or hearing such words - which is not your fault.
The two examples you mentioned, however, is something I'd like to clarify. I've seen situations in which people have been hurt by saying things that, grammatically, syntactically and lexically speaking, don''t connote aggression. When your boss says "It's time for you to look at other options outside the organization" and you happen to LOVE your job, how'd you react? I'm sure some feelings of bitterness and pain will set in, despite the absence of coarse language, not because the boss was an arse but because of perception.
I'm sure this discussion has led EVERYONE, myself especially, into a lot of insights about communicating in a forum - that a lot of people , particularly this very amusing nationality I belong to, don't take assertiveness as a virtue.
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who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
weytaminit kapeng mainit! ice breaker...
there's a missing apostrophe in that quote! perfect na sana. :D
love,
punctuation cop
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context...that's what it's all about...
kahit sabihin mo pa
"who the fcuk told you blah blah blah"
o kaya
"anong karapatan mo sabihin na blah blah blah"
either way...english or filipino...if you're an a s s hole...you're an as s hole...it'll show...
i speak english everyday at work, that's coz noone will be able to understand me if i didn't...i don't get into fights....but if you're a pr|ck...you better run...
I speak pretty much in the same way I communicate in forums, but I don't get into fights as well. Maybe they're tolerant of the language, may be they aren't. They may think you're an pr+ck, maybe they think that's just the way you talk. Whatever the reason behind my limbs still being intact, it all boils down to perception, man. It just so happened that A LOT of you don't like seeing or hearing such words - which is not your fault.
The two examples you mentioned, however, is something I'd like to clarify. I've seen situations in which people have been hurt by saying things that, grammatically, syntactically and lexically speaking, don''t connote aggression. When your boss says "It's time for you to look at other options outside the organization" and you happen to LOVE your job, how'd you react? I'm sure some feelings of bitterness and pain will set in, despite the absence of coarse language, not because the boss was an arse but because of perception.
I'm sure this discussion has led EVERYONE, myself especially, into a lot of insights about communicating in a forum - that a lot of people , particularly this very amusing nationality I belong to, don't take assertiveness as a virtue.
uy! eto pa! tsk tsk tsk...
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deltaslim
eh ito hulaan nyo:
tundan tundan tududundan daaaaaaan
clue: pinoy song sya.
LAKLAK?? :D potek....ang haba na neto....buti nalang G-D-C lang alam ko... peace na kayo... [-o<
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Thanks for the corrections.
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wait wait wait...you'd like to clarify? i just said everything depends on context. now, if your boss said that. it's a nice way of saying you're fired. fine. nice words...bad message...
Exactly my point, and it also works the other way around. Bad words, nice message. Now if you don't see that, then that's your problem.
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oh...so you mean you meant well with this;
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
ahhhh....i see....
gimme a break... sheesh...
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oh...so you mean you meant well with this;
who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
ahhhh....i see....
gimme a break... sheesh...
I hate to say this, but yes.
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who the fcuk gave you the right to own it? and that progression has been used before, theres no way you could own it.
weytaminit kapeng mainit! ice breaker...
there's a missing apostrophe in that quote! perfect na sana. :D
love,
punctuation cop
Thanks for noticing! I'm serving time as well because of improper capitalization. :)
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From one educator to another...
In one discipline that I've devoted a few years of my life to, its starting point is this statement :
"The meaning of your communication is the response it gets".
Thus our effectivity as communicators rests on what our perceived meaning is, and not what our intended meaning is.
2c.
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mismo! nice one BAMF :)
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eto o
medyo mahirap :lol:
tunun nenunin nunin nunin nuninun
tunun nenunin nunin nunin tunteninwwww
para sa mga metal... :wink:
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pag nagangas ka...kapalit nun e credibility mo at papano ka i peperceive ng mga tao....kaya titser marcova medyo umayos ayos ka!! :twisted:
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This is getting tiresome.
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This is getting tiresome.
is dat a brokeback quote??? :lol: :lol:
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nakow....mukhang may round 2 ah... :roll:
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eto o
medyo mahirap :lol:
tunun nenunin nunin nunin nuninun
tunun nenunin nunin nunin tunteninwwww
para sa mga metal... :wink:
SOUTH OF HEAVEN!!!!
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ito pa isa.
dundundun dududundun dun dundundun dududundun
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DM9 - A7 - F#7#9 - B7
sir san tune or standard nyo nakuha yan? :)
thats MY progression... DM9 was really EM9..
as ii-V ng E ung F# at B..
EM9 is better, but i decided to make it DM9.
Dahil lang dito?Nagaway na kayo?Tkstksktsktktskk....Hindi nga uunlad ang Pilipinas kong mahal!!!aguy!!!... :(
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ito pa isa.
dundundun dududundun dun dundundun dududundun
manila ice ice buko? hehe
eto hulaan nyo:
"jenjejen chakachaka jen jen jon jenjejen chakachaka jen jen"... tapos papasok yung drum track na "patug tupatug tupatug tupa!" tapos sa dulo yung bass line... "dundundundun dindindindun dendendenden dindindindin"
madali lang yan...
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nakow....mukhang may round 2 ah... :roll:
Nah. You've made your point, man. You're a worthier opponent. Cheers
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haaayy,, kinabahan ako, kala ko may round 2 pa. :lol:
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ito pa isa.
dundundun dududundun dun dundundun dududundun
manila ice ice buko? hehe
tumpak!
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eto ako naman..
chenchen chekecheke chenchen chen chenchen chekecheke chenchen
chenchen chekecheke chenchen chen chenchen chekecheke chenchen
tapos pasok drums..
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nirvana...smells like teen spirit...
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eto
tenenenenenenenent tu tenenenenenenenet tu tenenenenenenenet tu tenenenenenene...
and the andswer is....erotomania!
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nirvana...smells like teen spirit...
korek!
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eto
tenenenenenenenent tu tenenenenenenenet tu tenenenenenenenet tu tenenenenenene...
umm...cliffs of dover?? hehehe!!
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nakow....mukhang may round 2 ah... :roll:
Nah. You've made your point, man. You're a worthier opponent. Cheers
Titser marcovahh..pa cheers cheers ka pa...di bagay tita... :lol: :lol:
di mo ba ako naaalala.
ako yung child hood friend mo.
Mga kaibigan, naaalala ko dati nung bata pa si titser marco, siguro medyo confused pa sya nun.
kase yung gumugupit sa buhok nya dati e naging BF nya!!. :lol: :lol:
naaalala ko pa nga e sweet na sweet sila sa Luneta e..
Pangalan pa nga ng BF ni titser marco e si JUN.
Kaya naghiwalay ang landas namin ni marco kase e pinagsabihan ko sya nun na itigil na nya ang Kajoklaan nya...pero mukhang hanggang ngayon e dala dala pa rin nya.
CHeers!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Marco!! Si Cornelius to!!...Nakita kita kagabi sa drugstore a...bumibile ng KY Jelly.
Saan mo ilalagay yun, sa pwet mo ulit. :lol: :lol:
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eto o
medyo mahirap :lol:
tunun nenunin nunin nunin nuninun
tunun nenunin nunin nunin tunteninwwww
para sa mga metal... :wink:
SOUTH OF HEAVEN!!!!
Right on!!!!
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Saan mo ilalagay yun, sa pwet mo ulit. :lol: :lol:
It seems that you know much about the uses of that formulation - first hand experience, perhaps?
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eh ito....
waaaahhoooooooowaaaaoaoooowahooooaaoooooowaaaaahh....
answer is: any pearl jam solo...gotta love it!
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eto...
wacko wackokokwackwacko wackokokwack wacko wackokockwack waaack wa wack wack wock wock weckokwock waaacko wockowaack tsktsk waaack wa wack wack wock wock weckokwock waaacko wockowaack...
malupet makakahula nito... hehehe
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eto...
wacko wackokokwackwacko wackokokwack wacko wackokockwack waaack wa wack wack wock wock weckokwock waaacko wockowaack tsktsk waaack wa wack wack wock wock weckokwock waaacko wockowaack...
malupet makakahula nito... hehehe
ang haba naman nyan, ano yan, dialog ni donald duck? hehehe :) ano yan, yung scratch scratch solo ni Tom Morello sa Bulls On Parade?
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voodoo chile?
eto...
wacko wackokokwackwacko wackokokwack wacko wackokockwack waaack wa wack wack wock wock weckokwock waaacko wockowaack tsktsk waaack wa wack wack wock wock weckokwock waaacko wockowaack...
malupet makakahula nito... hehehe
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mahusay mr. markflo! tell him what he won sam! hehe
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tenchu tenchu...ay lab yu ol...hwehwehwe
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Hey look, it's a pissing contest!
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huh?
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Mga prog freaks, eto?
dah-di-dat-dat dah-di-dat-dat dat-dat-di-di
dah-di-dat-dat dah-di-dat-dat dat-dat-di-di
dah-di-dat-dat dah-di-dat-dat dat-dat-di-di
dah-di-dat-dat dah-di-dat-dat dat-dat-di-di
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Saan mo ilalagay yun, sa pwet mo ulit. :lol: :lol:
It seems that you know much about the uses of that formulation - first hand experience, perhaps?
Third person view experience lang....nung napanood ko kayo ni Jun Parlor accidentally pag pasok ko sa kwarto mo. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Pa Zappa Zappa ka pa.
Di bagay. Pag buhay pa siguro si Zappa baka masuka yun sayo.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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eh ito....
waaaahhoooooooowaaaaoaoooowahooooaaoooooowaaaaahh....
answer is: any pearl jam solo...gotta love it!
hahaha!!!!! oonga noh! galing! hanap rin ako ng mahirap. sali ako next time. Mark! Im jobless! hahahaha. tawagan kita some sunday morning here. valveboooooooooooooy!!!!!!!!!!!!