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Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 08, 2006, 07:03:47 PM
I had time to record my OD and distortion pedals...lahat being equal - same guitar, same setting on the POD(which is on bypass), same riff/solo ... me mga sabit but pagtiyagaan nyo na lang :)

subukan nyo nga hulaan which OD/distortion pedal based on the sound/tone.

eto mga players:

1) Boss DS1
2) modded Boss SD1
3) Bad Monkey
4) Toneblone classic

its 5 tracks, so dalawa ang entry nung isang distortion pedal.
take note din na yung settings was done based on my taste for tone.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=515323

the tracks are called ODist<x>

good luck!
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: lykenhowl on April 08, 2006, 08:20:40 PM
Modded BOSS SD1...baka...siguro...maybe...parang :mrgreen:
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: abyssinianson on April 08, 2006, 09:33:16 PM
I like tracks 4 and 5 equally well - the over drive sounds very natural, with track 3 coming in second. I didn't like 1 and 2 at all; I thought those two tones sounded much too harsh for the smooth overdrive that, I think, it was trying to present.
Title: Re: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Phil on April 08, 2006, 11:41:07 PM
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
I had time to record my OD and distortion pedals...lahat being equal - same guitar, same setting on the POD(which is on bypass), same riff/solo ... me mga sabit but pagtiyagaan nyo na lang :)

subukan nyo nga hulaan which OD/distortion pedal based on the sound/tone.

eto mga players:

1) Boss DS1
2) modded Boss SD1
3) Bad Monkey
4) Toneblone classic

its 5 tracks, so dalawa ang entry nung isang distortion pedal.
take note din na yung settings was done based on my taste for tone.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=515323

the tracks are called ODist<x>

good luck!
anong guitara and pickup/ pickup position ginagamit mo pre ? same for all ?
Title: Re: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 09, 2006, 01:26:46 AM
Quote from: Phil
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
I had time to record my OD and distortion pedals...lahat being equal - same guitar, same setting on the POD(which is on bypass), same riff/solo ... me mga sabit but pagtiyagaan nyo na lang :)

subukan nyo nga hulaan which OD/distortion pedal based on the sound/tone.

eto mga players:

1) Boss DS1
2) modded Boss SD1
3) Bad Monkey
4) Toneblone classic

its 5 tracks, so dalawa ang entry nung isang distortion pedal.
take note din na yung settings was done based on my taste for tone.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=515323

the tracks are called ODist<x>

good luck!
anong guitara and pickup/ pickup position ginagamit mo pre ? same for all ?


Same for all too... I used the Les Paul model nung Variax in the bridge position para walang noise.
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: stratman1 on April 09, 2006, 01:36:14 AM
Man, hindi ko alam kung ano ang mga tumutunog na pedals at the particular time. Gusto ko ang tunog ng 4 & 5. Warm and smooth. Yong first 3 medyo trebly sa akin. Ano yong order ng distortion?
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Phil on April 09, 2006, 01:58:32 AM
I like 5....all others have that piercing brightness sound.....I don't like that except  when playing in the clean channel only.
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 09, 2006, 03:01:32 AM
would you believe that track 4 is the SD1 and 5 is the bad monkey? my faves.

track 3 is the DS1...ice pick pa rin kahit mababa na yung tone knob.

1&2 is the tonebone - naka set na super high yung gain, flat mid and nakabright yung EQ... i was after the NU Metal distortion. di ko pa explore yung mid at low distortion settings nya...
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: stratman1 on April 09, 2006, 03:06:33 AM
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
would you believe that track 4 is the SD1 and 5 is the bad monkey? my faves.

track 3 is the DS1...ice pick pa rin kahit mababa na yung tone knob.

1&2 is the tonebone - naka set na super high yung gain, flat mid and nakabright yung EQ... i was after the NU Metal distortion. di ko pa explore yung mid at low distortion settings nya...


DS-1 that high-pitched sounding? Hhmm... bakit yong akin naman timpla para warm sound. Ano bang amp and guitar setup mo? Baka don nag katalo.

SD-1 ang 4 ha.... hhmm. Ayos ang tunog. Pero warmest yong Bad MOnkey. Talagang BBAADD ang MONKEY mo pareng SONNY, hehe :lol:
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 09, 2006, 04:00:28 AM
Quote from: stratman1
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
would you believe that track 4 is the SD1 and 5 is the bad monkey? my faves.

track 3 is the DS1...ice pick pa rin kahit mababa na yung tone knob.

1&2 is the tonebone - naka set na super high yung gain, flat mid and nakabright yung EQ... i was after the NU Metal distortion. di ko pa explore yung mid at low distortion settings nya...


DS-1 that high-pitched sounding? Hhmm... bakit yong akin naman timpla para warm sound. Ano bang amp and guitar setup mo? Baka don nag katalo.

SD-1 ang 4 ha.... hhmm. Ayos ang tunog. Pero warmest yong Bad MOnkey. Talagang BBAADD ang MONKEY mo pareng SONNY, hehe :lol:


walang amp sim or amp na gamit... naka bypass na POD lang, para walang kulay.

yung bad monkey, great for blues talaga. yung SD1 fave distortion/OD ko..yung DS1 mo di ba me keeley mod yun? hirap talaga ako itimpla yung DS1 e.
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: stratman1 on April 09, 2006, 04:26:50 AM
Yeah, KEELEY yong DS-1 ko. Napansin ko na ang mga stock DS-1 ay brittle sounding. Kaya mura lang sila. Mas mahal pa ata ang bayad pa mod ng pedal sa actual stock price, e, hehe :lol:
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Phil on April 09, 2006, 06:39:24 AM
...looks like I've narrowed my selection sa overdrive pedal.....it's between...the Bad Monkey....and the AC Booster....haaaaay....


eto yung clip sa AC booster na naka-attract sa akin.....the guy used it as a gain boost....with a humbucker p/u....like my situation.
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/jinshi/index.html

I need an effect right now...I want to compose something base on a nice pedal ( pang inspiration)....the digitech whammy can wait.
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: darnel on April 09, 2006, 11:28:45 AM
Quote
would you believe that track 4 is the SD1 and 5 is the bad monkey? my faves.

track 3 is the DS1...ice pick pa rin kahit mababa na yung tone knob.

1&2 is the tonebone - naka set na super high yung gain, flat mid and nakabright yung EQ... i was after the NU Metal distortion. di ko pa explore yung mid at low distortion settings nya...


sonny, how did u record the badmonkey.. sa mixer out ba? iba kasi tunog nya compared sa line out e..  :)
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: titser_marco on April 09, 2006, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
Quote from: stratman1
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
would you believe that track 4 is the SD1 and 5 is the bad monkey? my faves.

track 3 is the DS1...ice pick pa rin kahit mababa na yung tone knob.

1&2 is the tonebone - naka set na super high yung gain, flat mid and nakabright yung EQ... i was after the NU Metal distortion. di ko pa explore yung mid at low distortion settings nya...


DS-1 that high-pitched sounding? Hhmm... bakit yong akin naman timpla para warm sound. Ano bang amp and guitar setup mo? Baka don nag katalo.

SD-1 ang 4 ha.... hhmm. Ayos ang tunog. Pero warmest yong Bad MOnkey. Talagang BBAADD ang MONKEY mo pareng SONNY, hehe :lol:


walang amp sim or amp na gamit... naka bypass na POD lang, para walang kulay.

yung bad monkey, great for blues talaga. yung SD1 fave distortion/OD ko..yung DS1 mo di ba me keeley mod yun? hirap talaga ako itimpla yung DS1 e.


Haynaku ang GANDA GANDA GANDA ng SD1. I place it after my shredmaster to give it that boost. Anyway, back to topic
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Poundcake on April 09, 2006, 02:37:35 PM
ang ganda pala ng tunog ng SD1... galit yung tunog ng Tonebone dude hehe! pareng SRV, post ka naman ng old school tone using the Tonebone :)
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 09, 2006, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: VenusIsle_5150
ang ganda pala ng tunog ng SD1... galit yung tunog ng Tonebone dude hehe! pareng SRV, post ka naman ng old school tone using the Tonebone :)


will do so pare...

yung BM recorded out of its mixer instead of its amp output ...
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: walis_bluz on April 09, 2006, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn


...walang amp sim or amp na gamit... naka bypass na POD lang, para walang kulay.

yung BM recorded out of its mixer instead of its amp output ...



Ahem... Yung clips 1-4 kaya pala parang ice pick tunog, dahil nakarekta ka sa recorder :shock: . Matino talaga tunog nung bad monkey dahil may amp simulation yung mixer output nun. Kung sa main out (amp out) ka dumaan, matalas din tutunog yan similar dun sa ibang clips mo.

Para mas maayos ang comparison, i-run mo yung mga OD mo sa isang amp na naka-5 lahat ng EQ tapos i-mic mo then record.

Or kung hindi ka makakapag-mic ng amp, gamit ka ng isang clean amp and speaker model (sabihin nating Fender Twin) sa POD mo tapos i-5 lang lahat ng EQ para malinis ang dating. Walang ibang efx (compressor, reverb, delay, etc) dapat na kasali. In essence, ginawa mong amp yung POD mo. Saka ka ngayon mag-record ng clips ng pedals mo. At the very least, mako-control mo yung talas ng clips lalo na sa hi gain.

 Banat uli!

PS: Ayus yung Zep licks mo, brad , sabay medley kay Kravitz 8)
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: buliwyf on April 09, 2006, 05:50:54 PM
ganda ng tunog nung variax acoustic sample 2. hehe. sorry ot
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: darnel on April 09, 2006, 06:18:27 PM
ganda talaga ng SD1.. lalo if its MIJ, up to this time i regret selling mine to buy sana a TS9... which i eventually didnt like..

para sa kin the BM is better compared to the Ibanez TS series especially the reissues... di ko pa lng na try yung TS808 (old ones).. baka dun n magkatalo

for me with the mixer out, yung BM parang 2 pedals in 1... though i much prefer the line out... sonny gawa k uli ng BM with line out naman...  :)
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 10, 2006, 03:17:30 AM
Darnel and Waliz..try ko ulit mag record na me amp sim.

Venus, yung SD1 ko is a modded one, mas smooth and "fresh" sounding yung distortion nya compared to stock.

buliwyf, galing ng accoustic sim ng Variax no?
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: south of heaven on April 10, 2006, 03:26:09 AM
Quote from: titser_marco
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
Quote from: stratman1
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
would you believe that track 4 is the SD1 and 5 is the bad monkey? my faves.

track 3 is the DS1...ice pick pa rin kahit mababa na yung tone knob.

1&2 is the tonebone - naka set na super high yung gain, flat mid and nakabright yung EQ... i was after the NU Metal distortion. di ko pa explore yung mid at low distortion settings nya...


DS-1 that high-pitched sounding? Hhmm... bakit yong akin naman timpla para warm sound. Ano bang amp and guitar setup mo? Baka don nag katalo.

SD-1 ang 4 ha.... hhmm. Ayos ang tunog. Pero warmest yong Bad MOnkey. Talagang BBAADD ang MONKEY mo pareng SONNY, hehe :lol:


walang amp sim or amp na gamit... naka bypass na POD lang, para walang kulay.

yung bad monkey, great for blues talaga. yung SD1 fave distortion/OD ko..yung DS1 mo di ba me keeley mod yun? hirap talaga ako itimpla yung DS1 e.


Haynaku ang GANDA GANDA GANDA ng SD1. I place it after my shredmaster to give it that boost. Anyway, back to topic


Saviih kho na nga ba ehh.          "Haynaku!"
diba pang vvhaading yun.  :lol:
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: SDMF on April 10, 2006, 06:52:31 AM
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
Darnel and Waliz..try ko ulit mag record na me amp sim.

Venus, yung SD1 ko is a modded one, mas smooth and "fresh" sounding yung distortion nya compared to stock.

buliwyf, galing ng accoustic sim ng Variax no?


bro ang ganda nga ng tunog nung acoustic sim...
Pero what really caught my ear is this clip Variacoustic.
That chord progression, gawa mo un?

I wanted to play something like that, it reminds of those french movies or somthing...european, setting of some sort..Ganun ung mood ng song na gusto ko gawin.

...para at least nde naman metallers lagi. :lol:
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 10, 2006, 04:30:30 PM
Quote from: SDMF
Quote from: sonnyrayvaughn
Darnel and Waliz..try ko ulit mag record na me amp sim.

Venus, yung SD1 ko is a modded one, mas smooth and "fresh" sounding yung distortion nya compared to stock.

buliwyf, galing ng accoustic sim ng Variax no?


bro ang ganda nga ng tunog nung acoustic sim...
Pero what really caught my ear is this clip Variacoustic.
That chord progression, gawa mo un?

I wanted to play something like that, it reminds of those french movies or somthing...european, setting of some sort..Ganun ung mood ng song na gusto ko gawin.

...para at least nde naman metallers lagi. :lol:


cute nya no? meron ng song na ganon, i forgot the title, ill find out later. isa sa mga jazz explorations ko yung song na yun..i was trying to learn running bass.
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: markflo on April 11, 2006, 05:33:08 AM
nice overdrives with the "MARKFLO SEAL OF EXCELLENCE"

...and the nominees are...


1)Digitech Bad Monkey - the only thing stopping me from buying this one is the fact that it won't fit in my board anymore... :(

2)Boss SD-1 - ok na ok to lalo na pag naka mod ng keeley...

3)Boss OD-3 - This is the BEST, i say, BEST production overdrive pedal i've EVER heard...panis ang tube screamer, miski keeley ts9...

4)Xotic BB preamp - the most natural sounding od in the market (for me)...mahal nga lang...kaya medyo hassle...

anyway...yun lang...
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on April 11, 2006, 06:00:06 AM
Quote from: markflo
nice overdrives with the "MARKFLO SEAL OF EXCELLENCE"

...and the nominees are...


1)Digitech Bad Monkey - the only thing stopping me from buying this one is the fact that it won't fit in my board anymore... :(

2)Boss SD-1 - ok na ok to lalo na pag naka mod ng keeley...

3)Boss OD-3 - This is the BEST, i say, BEST production overdrive pedal i've EVER heard...panis ang tube screamer, miski keeley ts9...

4)Xotic BB preamp - the most natural sounding od in the market (for me)...mahal nga lang...kaya medyo hassle...

anyway...yun lang...


hirap maghanap ng Xotic BB preamp...like you said, napakamahal pa.
just sold my GT6, me pang GAS na naman hehe..dont tempt me Pareng Markflo! hehe
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: markflo on April 11, 2006, 06:33:45 AM
heheh...pare!!! cured nako sa GAS!

gigs naman habol ko ngayon...para di masayang gamit!
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Machine_Head on April 11, 2006, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: markflo
nice overdrives with the "MARKFLO SEAL OF EXCELLENCE"

...and the nominees are...


1)Digitech Bad Monkey - the only thing stopping me from buying this one is the fact that it won't fit in my board anymore... :(

2)Boss SD-1 - ok na ok to lalo na pag naka mod ng keeley...

3)Boss OD-3 - This is the BEST, i say, BEST production overdrive pedal i've EVER heard...panis ang tube screamer, miski keeley ts9...

4)Xotic BB preamp - the most natural sounding od in the market (for me)...mahal nga lang...kaya medyo hassle...

anyway...yun lang...


Sir Mark, if you were to choose between Bad Monkey and OD-3, which one would you choose?
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: markflo on April 11, 2006, 10:18:32 AM
Boss OD-3 meng...
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Phil on April 11, 2006, 10:20:54 AM
Quote from: markflo
nice overdrives with the "MARKFLO SEAL OF EXCELLENCE"

...and the nominees are...


1)Digitech Bad Monkey - the only thing stopping me from buying this one is the fact that it won't fit in my board anymore... :(

2)Boss SD-1 - ok na ok to lalo na pag naka mod ng keeley...

3)Boss OD-3 - This is the BEST, i say, BEST production overdrive pedal i've EVER heard...panis ang tube screamer, miski keeley ts9...

4)Xotic BB preamp - the most natural sounding od in the market (for me)...mahal nga lang...kaya medyo hassle...

anyway...yun lang...


okay which one would be good as an OD sa clean channel and a gain boost sa dirty channel (na hindi masyadong or will never color your amps gain)....sa linista mo.

what can you say about these MFrs here:
AC Booster
Jekyll and Hyded daw ( yung pula )
MI Audio Blues Pro
MI Audio Crunchbox
MI Audio Blue Boy
Jacques Tube Blower

problema ko din ...I don't have a guitar equipped with an SC...for that SRV sound.....looks like I should get a strat first huh?
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Phil on April 11, 2006, 10:33:49 AM
Question:
How can a Dyna Compressor function as a gain boost? I asked in another forum and this guy said that....he said just keep the compression to a minimum.

Is this true? ano ang tone lalabas? ( when using amps gain only(dirty channel......no OD pedal)
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: markflo on April 11, 2006, 10:59:41 AM
MI Tube Zone!
BB Preamp!

a compressor sounds best with just overdrive...with full on distortion, you won't hear the difference, maybe when you raise the output of the compressor, you'll hear a bit of gain boost (provided that it comes before the distortion)

Quote from: Phil
Quote from: markflo
nice overdrives with the "MARKFLO SEAL OF EXCELLENCE"

...and the nominees are...


1)Digitech Bad Monkey - the only thing stopping me from buying this one is the fact that it won't fit in my board anymore... :(

2)Boss SD-1 - ok na ok to lalo na pag naka mod ng keeley...

3)Boss OD-3 - This is the BEST, i say, BEST production overdrive pedal i've EVER heard...panis ang tube screamer, miski keeley ts9...

4)Xotic BB preamp - the most natural sounding od in the market (for me)...mahal nga lang...kaya medyo hassle...

anyway...yun lang...


okay which one would be good as an OD sa clean channel and a gain boost sa dirty channel (na hindi masyadong or will never color your amps gain)....sa linista mo.

what can you say about these MFrs here:
AC Booster
Jekyll and Hyded daw ( yung pula )
MI Audio Blues Pro
MI Audio Crunchbox
MI Audio Blue Boy
Jacques Tube Blower

problema ko din ...I don't have a guitar equipped with an SC...for that SRV sound.....looks like I should get a strat first huh?
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: SDMF on April 11, 2006, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: markflo
nice overdrives with the "MARKFLO SEAL OF EXCELLENCE"

...and the nominees are...


1)Digitech Bad Monkey - the only thing stopping me from buying this one is the fact that it won't fit in my board anymore... :(

2)Boss SD-1 - ok na ok to lalo na pag naka mod ng keeley...

3)Boss OD-3 - This is the BEST, i say, BEST production overdrive pedal i've EVER heard...panis ang tube screamer, miski keeley ts9...

4)Xotic BB preamp - the most natural sounding od in the market (for me)...mahal nga lang...kaya medyo hassle...

anyway...yun lang...


Bro nde ba may peavey bandit ka rin? Have you tried the modded sd-1 on it? Makapal ba ang tunog? how about the od-3 on it?

What I've tried is the ts-9 on bandit using hi gain setting...ayos lang, it cuts trhough, kaso medyo nakakabawas ng low end... :?
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: markflo on April 11, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
ang maganda sa od-3...very natural yung tone niya...very creamy yung pag drive niya ng amp...parang malagkit yung tunog niya...miski solid state...after i sold mine, i tried one sa sam ash...roland cube yung amp na gamit nila with the boss pedals...ok parin! not as good as with the tube amp though, pero nakakaloko narin kasi parang tube amp yung characteristics niya...ok na ok pang push din kasi di naman super dami ng gain niya eh...literal, overdrive lang talaga...
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: Phil on April 11, 2006, 01:17:23 PM
Mark I remember you were playing a guitar with HBs last EB natin...how the hell did you get that SRV sound, bro?
Title: OD/Distortion shootout/guessing game
Post by: SDMF on April 11, 2006, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: markflo
ang maganda sa od-3...very natural yung tone niya...very creamy yung pag drive niya ng amp...parang malagkit yung tunog niya...miski solid state...after i sold mine, i tried one sa sam ash...roland cube yung amp na gamit nila with the boss pedals...ok parin! not as good as with the tube amp though, pero nakakaloko narin kasi parang tube amp yung characteristics niya...ok na ok pang push din kasi di naman super dami ng gain niya eh...literal, overdrive lang talaga...


ah oki... ma try din nga od-3...okay naman ako sa hi gain ng bandit kaso bitin wen playing pinch harmonics, so I use the presence knob. Kaso i find it very sterile sounding...so i use the ts-9 then turn the presence knob off, pang boost lang ng konti...