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Title: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: 24242009 on October 08, 2009, 04:26:17 PM
Just a thought well for example we have bought a 2008 tele or strat, then after 30-40 years surely this will be vintage. So keeping it stock will make it more valuable do you agree? Modifications will make its value lesser, but on certain points guitarist like to mod their guitars according to their personal use, but do you have a guitar that you keep all stock? Its cool when we are all 70 years old and we have our all stock 2008 guitar mint our grand children and yougn guitarist will get envious haha
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: pitongjerome on October 08, 2009, 04:43:43 PM
replace what you wanna replace, keep the stocks, then after 50 years ibalik mo ang stock.
wag mo lang iparepaint
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: 24242009 on October 08, 2009, 05:19:44 PM
thanks, pero mas ok siguro kung mayroon akong gitara na open for modifications at yung isa all stock :)
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: jimy james on October 08, 2009, 06:04:53 PM
man i'm in my 40's. got a US 57 Strat. after decades & decades of use & abuse, parang Rory Gallager na sa pagka relic, but still plays like butter 8-)... all stock parin  :-D

by 2039 maybe i can trade that for a Porsche Carrera Turbo or a Maserati... and then, my grandkids would say... "hey grandpa... this car is way so awesome than your vintage strat" :lol: :lol: :lol:

while I'm left the rocking chair, playing acoustic blues on a dobro :-D
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: royc on October 08, 2009, 06:22:17 PM
yes after 30 years it will become vintage but it's price may only appreciate if there are only a few left of the same model and the model you have is of good quality. with factories churning our guitars in volumes that may not be an assurance though.

but then who would have thought that guitars from the 70s and 80s would cost that much today :D
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: IncX on October 08, 2009, 06:40:17 PM

are you buying guitars to sell them? ... or to play them?

 
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: jimy james on October 08, 2009, 07:00:17 PM
are you buying guitars to sell them? ... or to play them?

 

karamihan naman dito ganyan ang raket diba? bibilin, after a few days FS / FT na. :lol: what else is new :?

my Strat has been w/ me for ages... some dudes have offered me their cars, FX, even a 750cc big bike. but unless it's a Harley, i won't part w/ my baby :-D ( it's posted here at the Strat thread ) I've used that for gigs, recording, workshops, clinics... & now my kids are using it... for me, a vintage Strat is the ultimate axe. ( IMHO ) lang naman. oks din ang 335 & Teles.
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: 24242009 on October 08, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
@jimmy james wow a 1957 strat  :-D that's awesome!! not to mention its all stock!!!
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: boogsy on October 08, 2009, 09:23:00 PM
man i'm in my 40's. got a US 57 Strat. after decades & decades of use & abuse, parang Rory Gallager na sa pagka relic, but still plays like butter 8-)... all stock parin  :-D

by 2039 maybe i can trade that for a Porsche Carrera Turbo or a Maserati... and then, my grandkids would say... "hey grandpa... this car is way so awesome than your vintage strat" :lol: :lol: :lol:

while I'm left the rocking chair, playing acoustic blues on a dobro :-D

cool! reissue?
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: boogsy on October 08, 2009, 09:29:52 PM
Just a thought well for example we have bought a 2008 tele or strat, then after 30-40 years surely this will be vintage. So keeping it stock will make it more valuable do you agree? Modifications will make its value lesser, but on certain points guitarist like to mod their guitars according to their personal use, but do you have a guitar that you keep all stock? Its cool when we are all 70 years old and we have our all stock 2008 guitar mint our grand children and yougn guitarist will get envious haha

Just keep the stock parts if you intend to keep its resale value. In 30-40 years from now I can imagine the real vintage ones from the 50's and 60's commanding huge prices (as if they don't already), maybe even the ones from the 70's.. But yung mga gawa ngayon I doubt, there's too many in circulation and it won't be as hard siguro to reproduce.. unless by then extinct na yung mga puno for tone woods. :D Who knows? Yung mga Japanese guitars from the 80's are increasing in price already, but not so much though.
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: 24242009 on October 08, 2009, 09:33:22 PM
Just keep the stock parts if you intend to keep its resale value. In 30-40 years from now I can imagine the real vintage ones from the 50's and 60's commanding huge prices (as if they don't already), maybe even the ones from the 70's.. But yung mga gawa ngayon I doubt, there's too many in circulation and it won't be as hard siguro to reproduce.. unless by then extinct na yung mga puno for tone woods. :D Who knows? Yung mga Japanese guitars from the 80's are increasing in price already, but not so much though.

IN the future, i think wood maybe a rare thing (knock on wood), guitars might be made with platic or other materials, which is the worst thing that can happen :) Well I think in our country logging of Narra is prohibited now, but im lucky enough to buy a pure narra sala set way back then.
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: ermonski on October 08, 2009, 09:38:49 PM
dahil sa eating habits at stress at unhealthy lifestyle ko ngayon baka mauna pa ako madedo sa gitara LOL!!!
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: boogsy on October 08, 2009, 09:41:02 PM
IN the future, i think wood maybe a rare thing (knock on wood), guitars might be made with platic or other materials, which is the worst thing that can happen :) Well I think in our country logging of Narra is prohibited now, but im lucky enough to buy a pure narra sala set way back then.

Unlike current production guitars, the pre-70's materials and environment is very difficult to duplicate. For example: Brazillian Rosewood cannot be imported anymore, some chemicals/processes are restricted by OSHA now, etc.. We can only speculate how much will change 30-40 years from now. Sana naman hindi pa rare ang puno :)
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: 24242009 on October 08, 2009, 09:45:40 PM
@ermon, haha dont worry about it bro, all people are not immortal anyway  :-D

@boogsy, yes but come to think of it a single maple tree will take a long time to grow(years), not to mention it will just be cut in a few minutes or something. Yes brazilian rosewood is pretty rare now.. I feel sad for my grand children if they will use guitars made of plastic  :-o but they will not. Their friends will get envy when they will use my vintage guitars made of wood (considering its future time)  :-D
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: bryanarzaga on October 08, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
it may be vintage because of how old it is..but if a market doesn't exist for the said guitar..it doesn't guarantee that the price would be more than what you paid for...
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: boogsy on October 08, 2009, 10:15:31 PM
it may be vintage because of how old it is..but if a market doesn't exist for the said guitar..it doesn't guarantee that the price would be more than what you paid for...

+1 for the same reason, 60's teiscos arent really worth much. That being said, I have a feeling 30-40 years from now the vintage market would revolve around Suhrs, Andersons, Tylers, JGs.. not so much the commercial stuff.
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: bryanarzaga on October 08, 2009, 10:18:05 PM
+1 for the same reason, 60's teiscos arent really worth much.

yeah i see those in ebay..a friend of mine has two and its more just paper weight lol...
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: bryanarzaga on October 08, 2009, 10:26:56 PM
That being said, I have a feeling 30-40 years from now the vintage market would revolve around Suhrs, Andersons, Tylers, JGs.. not so much the commercial stuff.

yeah those have a more likely chance of retaining or adding to their market value, especially when they start shipping production to MIK,MII,MIC (we hope not),

OT: i wish schecter brought back their classic models,
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: boogsy on October 08, 2009, 10:33:36 PM
yeah those have a more likely chance of retaining or adding to their market value, especially when they start shipping production to MIK,MII,MIC (we hope not)

and when the builders pass away. (knock on wood)
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: jimy james on October 08, 2009, 11:56:16 PM
cool! reissue?

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,109590.375.html
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: boogsy on October 09, 2009, 12:02:53 AM
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,109590.375.html

nice CS. :)
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: skunkyfunk on October 09, 2009, 09:28:39 AM
Ya know, those lucky folks who bought original Les Pauls in the '50s had no idea they would be owning a guitar that would fetch $250k after 50 years.  They bought them to have fun. 

Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: kragz on October 09, 2009, 09:34:43 AM
dahil sa eating habits at stress at unhealthy lifestyle ko ngayon baka mauna pa ako madedo sa gitara LOL!!!

lol hhahha galaw galaw
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: red_hot on October 09, 2009, 09:47:58 AM
yung jackson ko na pro and my epi hehehee semi vintage na din yun soon to be antique na hahahaha
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: Letour on October 09, 2009, 09:57:20 AM
I have an 1980 "The Strat" See info: The Strat (http://www.stratcollector.com/newsdesk/archives/000273.html)

Next year it would 30 years old. Will that qualify as vintage?

FYI: It is a Made in USA guitar, just in case someone wants to ask  :wink:
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: peabrain12789 on October 09, 2009, 12:49:20 PM
aanhin pa ang gitara kung patay na ang...


wala ako paki- kung vintage o hindi... as long as playable ito and at merong magandang tunog... then i'll buy it...

i have a 1971 Gibson SG Pro - which nabili ko for a very veryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryvery cheap price, recently ko lang nalaman na orig to and it's very rare, nalaman ko lang after namin i repair repaint :-( :-( :-(...
but now gusto ko buhayin yun para maging main axe, problema lang alaws budget...

-edited
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: peabrain12789 on October 09, 2009, 12:51:56 PM
are you buying guitars to sell them? ... or to play them?

 

+1 idol!!!!!!!
Title: Re: our guitar today will be vintage tomorow
Post by: boncram on October 09, 2009, 07:54:46 PM
+1 for the same reason, 60's teiscos arent really worth much. That being said, I have a feeling 30-40 years from now the vintage market would revolve around Suhrs, Andersons, Tylers, JGs.. not so much the commercial stuff.

+1 kasi nung panahon na yun kung ano mas bago yun ang mas bentahin. eh kaso pumanget strats nung cbs na ang fender, kaya nabuhay ang mga pre cbs strats at naconsider as "vintage" kasi mas maganda nga daw. so kung by the time na matanda na tayo at may mas magaganda talagang gitara eh baka di na din tumaas value ng mga gitara ngayon in the future.