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Title: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 26, 2009, 11:22:55 PM
mga pro dyan sa computer advice naman po kung ano bibilin kong video card?
17" ung monitor ko
gusto ko ma play ng max and smooth yung resolution ng mga games like nba 2k9 ,need for speed shift, GTA 4
hinde ko kasi alam kung ano ba talaga dapat ang bilhin ko
 :?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 26, 2009, 11:37:57 PM
First question, does your motherboard have a PCI-e slot?

Next... budget? :-D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 27, 2009, 12:08:34 AM
yup! pci e x16
4~5k po ang budget ko
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: edalbkrad on October 27, 2009, 01:05:56 AM
Eto yung mga gaming cards na pasok sa budget mo:
ATI HD4830 / HD4850 or Geforce 8800GT / 9800GT / GTS 250

Take note: dont get a videocard that has lower than 256 bit speed, huwag matukso ng mga 1GB na videocard tulad 9500GT dahil 128 bit bus speed lang yun at balewala ang 1GB dahil maliit ang daanan ng data.

Basta 512mb and 256bit or higher ay pwedeng pang games na high settings  :evil:
Yung GTA IV bulok talaga, kahit Geforce GTX 260 naglalag dun eh.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 27, 2009, 07:10:08 AM
may nakita ako geforce 8800gt 256mb ddr3 256bit dvi... ok na ba ito?

eh anu ba dapat ddr3 o ddr5?? hinde ko na alam to eh?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: incubus_boy08 on October 27, 2009, 08:24:12 AM
yup! pci e x16
4~5k po ang budget ko

check this site:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/131
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132

Piliin mo yung pnakamataas na Memory Transfer Rate na swak sa budget mo.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 27, 2009, 08:47:54 AM
salamat sa pag shashare mo
pero anu mas mairerecomend mo?
pagka ganyan kasi nalilito ako eh
 :? :?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on October 27, 2009, 12:03:21 PM
get one of the cards that edalbkrad suggested above. they're really good, that is if you can find one that's within your budget.

Happy Video Card hunting!  :-)
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: edalbkrad on October 27, 2009, 02:13:37 PM
Ok na tong napili mo "8800gt 256mb ddr3 256bit"

kung may makita ka na mas malaki ng konti yung memory. Mga 8800gt 512mb sana para di ka mabitin sa mga halimaw na games. Yung 9600GT 512mb DDR3 nasa 3000 pesos lang ata, basta di aabot 4k yun. Ok narin yung pang games basta malakas processor mo.


Halos walang difference yung mga video card na DDR3 at DDR5 kasi yung
Geforce GTX 295 DDR3 ay kamatch ng HD4870x2 at HD5870 DDR5. Sila yung pinaka top of the line videocard ngayon. Basta wag lang DDR2 kasi sigurado mabagal
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 27, 2009, 06:58:13 PM
so ang magiging papilian ko lang ay
8800gt 512mb ddr3 256bit
and
9600gt 512mb ddr3 256bit
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 27, 2009, 08:03:40 PM
8800GT > 9600GT

And for a 5k php budget, the Geforce GTS250 (essentially a rebadged 9800GTX+) beats that.
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3682251 - 5250 bucks for roughly 15% more power than the 8800GT.

Or for 4.2k, you have the Radeon HD4730, which is just slightly weaker than a 9800GT.
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679262
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: Archeo on October 28, 2009, 04:25:00 AM
Kung di naman mapili ehh you can also opt to scout for 2nd hand 4850/4770s or if luck strikes, you might even find a 8800GTX with a custom cooler on tpc but that's pretty much saying na mag antay ka.

Around 5k ang prices ng 4850/4770 na 2nd if I remember seeing a few correctly and around 4k for the 8800GTX. If ayaw ng 2nd hand, well GTS250 is the way to go.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 08:24:09 AM
malakas na processor???
pano ko malalaman kung malakas ang processor ko?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 08:33:19 AM
Kung di naman mapili ehh you can also opt to scout for 2nd hand 4850/4770s or if luck strikes, you might even find a 8800GTX with a custom cooler on tpc but that's pretty much saying na mag antay ka.

Around 5k ang prices ng 4850/4770 na 2nd if I remember seeing a few correctly and around 4k for the 8800GTX. If ayaw ng 2nd hand, well GTS250 is the way to go.

kung second hand naman
hindi ko alam kung ayos pa yung mabibili ko eh kasi
hinde ko alam kung paano malalaman...
hinde ko alam baka mabentahan ako ng kakaunti n yung life nung video card



pag brand new naman ang bibilin ko saan ako dapat bumili na makaka mura??
ano brand dapat kong bilhin na mas mura?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on October 28, 2009, 10:47:01 AM
kung second hand naman
hindi ko alam kung ayos pa yung mabibili ko eh kasi
hinde ko alam kung paano malalaman...
hinde ko alam baka mabentahan ako ng kakaunti n yung life nung video card



pag brand new naman ang bibilin ko saan ako dapat bumili na makaka mura??
ano brand dapat kong bilhin na mas mura?

Yep. If you're not sure of what to look for to prevent buying a lemon 2nd hand card better stay clear.

cheers!
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 11:00:30 AM
pag brand new naman ang bibilin ko saan ako dapat bumili na makaka mura??
ano brand dapat kong bilhin na mas mura?

Gilmore has the shops with the cheapest prices. PCHub and PCOptions in particular. But sometimes the other stores try to beat their prices - so look around and canvass. There's over a dozen stores there.

As for videocard brands - most of them are reputable. XFX, Palit, MSI, ASUS, Sparkle, Inno3D for Geforce cards. Gecube, Palit, Powercolour, Sapphire, MSI, for Radeons. As long as the brand's been in the business for a few years, good na yun.

Besides, most of these cards are exact copies of the reference card, only differing in software bundles. There are, however, OC versions of cards (slightly boosted), as well as ones with bigger, better coolers (Inno3D's InnoChill, Sapphire's Zalman).

You could always go for the cheapest. You could also spend a few hundred more for OC'd versions or ones with aftermarket coolers. Your call. :-D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
pero may mga video card ba na may system requirements?
baka kasi mabili ko eh hinde compatible sa pc ko ung mabili ko
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 11:55:52 AM
Basta may PCI-E slot ka, OK na yan.

The only trouble I see with buying a powerful card is your PSU. Kung generic/stock yan, it might be insufficient to power the card.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 12:36:10 PM
oo stock nga ito sir pero titingnan ko na din bubuksan ko kung may tatak hehehe ,
pero kaya naba ng stock psu ko ung 8800gt at 9600gt na video card???
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 12:55:45 PM
Check the PSU brand, wattage rating, and the number of amps on the +12V rail (14A = bad. 25A or greater = good).
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 01:47:34 PM
check mo nga po ito

http://bisckye.multiply.com/photos/album/3/#photo=1
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on October 28, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
check mo nga po ito

http://bisckye.multiply.com/photos/album/3/#photo=1

hmm... it's of poor resolution. But I think it says +12v= 14A

You might want to consider buying a better PSU.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 02:06:29 PM
I read the same thing. 14A.

If you're gonna get an 8800GT or better, yeah bgomez is right. Get a new PSU - kahit yung ACBels or HECs na 2k PHP lang, those will do.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 02:09:17 PM
hmmmn... ang mahal pala ng pag iipunan ko hahaha
chaka hinde pa ako marunong mag ayus kung saan isasaksak yun

kung bibili naman ako san ako bibili?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 02:29:11 PM
Gilmore for the cheapest prices. Kung medyo tinatamad kang dumayo, PC Express stores will do. Basta wag sa malls. Taga. :lol:
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 02:32:07 PM
hahaha salamat
pero pag sinaksakan ko ng 8800gt cpu ko
pero stock ang psu ko
anu kayang result nito???
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 02:36:10 PM
Possibly:

Not enough current to drive the videocard. Blank or garbage display. Sluggish framerates.
-or-
Overloaded system due to PSU's lack of wattage. Fried PSU, fried board.

Don't risk it. Don't try it. :lol:
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 02:39:44 PM
hmmmn.
sir bigay mo nga po specs ng psu na dapat kong bilhin..
para aware na ako...
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 02:44:40 PM
Kahit 400W lang, basta BRANDED.

400W branded beats a 600W generic any day of the week. Even the lowest Hec has 30A on the 12V rail, and is at least 78% efficient.

Reputable brands of PSUs are Hec, Acbel, Coolermaster, Silverstone, Gigabyte, Enermax, OCZ, Antec, Corsair.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 02:58:24 PM
salamat sir...
anu pa po kelangan kong iupgrade sa pc ko after nung psu?
para maging compatible na ung Geforce 8800gt?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 03:26:16 PM
ito pa pala may nakita ako sa internet...
+12v1=14A
+12v2=15A
anu ibig sabihin nun??
pag sasamahin?
bale 29A???
correct me if I'm wrong


check this out===>http://www.pcbodega.com/pcbshop/index.php?c=69&p=7696
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 04:02:09 PM
Kapag may 12V1 and 12V2, ibig sabihin, your PSU has two +12V rails. This was a marketing gimmick a few years back, but there isn't anything wrong with it naman. It's just that most new PSUs again use single 12V rails again with a massive current rating.

But yeah, generally, you combine the current reading on both rails.

And Gigabyte is okay. The Odins are better, but the Superb is alright for the price.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 08:23:34 PM
yung gigabyte superb na bibilin ko mas mura pa hehehe

yung bang Geforce 8800gt kelangan pa nung may sinasaksak para sa extra power??(sorry hindi ko alam exact term nun eh)
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 08:40:15 PM
Yep, either 4-pin or 6-pin aux power from the PSU.

Matanong ko lang, how much are you getting the 8800GT for, and san mo bibilhin?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on October 28, 2009, 09:06:02 PM
Gilmore for the cheapest prices. Kung medyo tinatamad kang dumayo, PC Express stores will do. Basta wag sa malls. Taga. :lol:

Like what Sjon014 said. Malls are have super high prices, because of their stall rents and I think premium because they're sometimes more "Reachable" than stand alone PC shops.

If you want the cheapest prices go to Gilmore. But it could be a bit of a hassle if you're far from the Gilmore area, since if the PC component that you bought breaks down with in the warranty period you will need to return the defective products and claim them there again when they get back from repairs.

i would recommend an ACbel PSU 560W it has 2 six and eight pin connectors for modern GPUs. it's worth the money. there's a very big chance that you will be using that same PSU for your next PC.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 09:24:41 PM
Yep, either 4-pin or 6-pin aux power from the PSU.

Matanong ko lang, how much are you getting the 8800GT for, and san mo bibilhin?

mag ca canvass muna ako kung saan mas mura  pero pupunta ako sa mga sinabi nyung mga stores
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 09:40:45 PM
i would recommend an ACbel PSU 560W it has 2 six and eight pin connectors for modern GPUs. it's worth the money. there's a very big chance that you will be using that same PSU for your next PC.


sabi sa internet hinde daw maganda review sa acbel,.....
sir tingnan nyo mga po yung gigabyte superb 460w
mas mura to eh  ....at tingnan nyo na rin kung maganda
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 10:00:14 PM
Bro, baka mahirapan ka maghanap ng 8800GT. It's been phased out. Previous-gen na yan eh.
Ang available sa stores are the 9800GT, 9800GTX, and the GTS250. Better cards, and still within the 5k budget range.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 28, 2009, 10:01:51 PM
ganun ba???
sige 9800gt ang bibilin ko sure kabang iisa ng price ang 8800gt at 9800gt??
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 28, 2009, 10:33:06 PM
Supposedly, oo. Check out mo na rin yung GTX, GTX+ and GTS250. Dikit-dikit lang prices nian kasi they're all very similar in architecture.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on October 29, 2009, 01:38:08 AM

sabi sa internet hinde daw maganda review sa acbel,.....
sir tingnan nyo mga po yung gigabyte superb 460w
mas mura to eh  ....at tingnan nyo na rin kung maganda

hmm.. ACbel is a subcontractor for Some of the CoolerMaster PSUs, although the ones they make for CM is cheaper than their own PSU. I think they are also the makers of PSUs of Apple and IBM computers. So, I think ACbel PSUs are very reliable, the ACbel 560 is an entry level, low-cost PSU and i think the reviewers writing the articles forget that.  :lol:

I have heard Great things about the Odin series of Gigabyte, but i am not sure about the Superb Series. You may also want to check the weight of the PSU, although this is not a fool-proof method of knowing if the PSU you are about to buy is of great quality it is usually a sign of better quality if the PSU you are buying is heavy, the increase in weight implies that the PSU you are holding contains high-quality and durable components. You may also want to try to peek inside the PSU itself, try to see if the workmanship inside the unit is of high quality it should not be messy (like solders are out of place or wirings are not tamed).

Sjon014 is right better buy one of the 9XXX or 2XX series of Nvidia. They're really cheap now because I believe Nvidia and ATI will be launching new cards a couple of months from now. Or, if you can wait, buy a video card as soon as they drop because of the advent of newer more powerful cards. That is, if you can wait.

Oh yeah, try to look for Palit Nvidia-based cards, they're usually cheaper than other brands using the same card. i also saw a force3D card, it's also very cheap, but i'm not sure about the reliability since i've never used one.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 29, 2009, 08:22:49 AM
oo nga naman tama ka sir aantayin ko nalang na bumaba ang price ng video card,
bibili muna ako ng psu acbel na ang bibilin ko, un ang nirecommend mo sa akin eh
lifetime use na ung (Acbel)psu na yun diba...?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 29, 2009, 09:53:40 AM
Yeah, good buy na yung ACBel. And I agree that one way (although not completely reliable) of determining PSU heft is... the weight. :lol:

I found this though:
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4337894

OCZ PSU for 2.9k bucks! I'd go for it if I were you, pero the AcBel's fine naman. Just don't go any lower. :-D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 29, 2009, 10:06:27 AM
wow ganda nga nito sir...
may tanung pa ako
kung halimbawa may magandang PSU na ako at Geforce 9800gt
gaano dapat kalaki ang RAM ko??
kasi yung akin 1g+512mb=1.5 RAM meron ako
tapos ung processor ko intel core duo 1.86GHz....
compatible naba yan???
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on October 29, 2009, 10:22:33 AM
Get another 1GB stick, then sell the 512. Mura na lang naman ang RAM ngayon eh. :-D

The proccie is okay. It's less of a factor than the videocard in gaming. Just up your RAM to 2GB para solid na system mo. :-)

Recommendation lang yun ah, it will work naman with 1.5GB.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 29, 2009, 11:17:35 AM
hindi na ako makapag hintay na maka bili ng branded PSU at magandang video card
konting ipon nalang makakabili na din ako hehehe!
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on October 29, 2009, 01:12:50 PM
hindi na ako makapag hintay na maka bili ng branded PSU at magandang video card
konting ipon nalang makakabili na din ako hehehe!


let us know what you end up buying bro. :)

cheers! happy computer parts hunting!

Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on October 29, 2009, 09:21:03 PM
thanks sir!
 :-D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: pii_bulacan on November 05, 2009, 10:22:08 AM
uy, pasali naman dito...  :-D UP!

Mga bro's, whats the difference between this video cards?

GeForce 9800 GX2
GeForce 9800 GTX+
GeForce 9800 GTX
GeForce 9800 GT

which is better in terms of features, cheaper price and performance?  :?

im planning to build a Gaming PC din kasi...  :-)

@Sir sjon014 & others,
patulong naman mga sir... can you give me suggestions on the required specs na kailangan in order to build a good gaming PC. Starts from its PROCESSORS, MOBO, VIDEO CARD, HD, RAM ETC...
my budget is 15k to 17k!

yung specs na will satisfy me sa pag play ng mga NBA2K10 and the likes of it!

Thank you in advanced mga Bro's! God bless...
RnR!
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 05, 2009, 03:11:31 PM
In terms of power:

1. GX2 (Has two GPU's inside. Essentially a dual-core graphics card.)
2. 9800GTX+
3. 9800GTX
4. 9800GT (Roughly equal to the 8800GT)

The bang-for-buck card today should be the 9800GTX+, but you'll find it in stores rebadged as the GTS250. You should be able to find it for a bit over 5k php, if you go shopping in Gilmore. The GX2 (and other dual-GPU cards) are exhorbitantly overpriced. :lol:

Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: badongrodrigs on November 05, 2009, 03:25:48 PM
the best bang for my buck was the 9600GT 512mb 256bit; i can play Prototype in full settings, no lag. Can you beat that for PHP3,900.00? no way. hahaha!
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 05, 2009, 03:42:23 PM

I miss quoting specs. :lol:

Anyway, based on your post above, I think you got your eye on the 9800-series cards. For 17k, it's a bit of a stretch.

Here are two possible setups:

In the first one, I tried to use the new AM3 platform, and I got a nice all-solid caps motherboard. I overshot the budget though.
The second one is in the 17k area, but I chose the older AM2+, and a cheap board. The rest of the specs are equal.

The quotes lack optical drives, the case, and peripherals. All prices are from PCHub in Gilmore.

YM me if you wanna talk about it. :-)

AM3 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3913779")

MSI 770-C45 AM3 - 3800 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4040470")

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4040470")

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679572")

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4240762")

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4094626")

Total = 19280

AM2 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon X2™ 5200+ 2.6ghz  - 2795 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679274")

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679359")

Kingston 2GB DDR2-667 - 2500 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3680143")

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679572")

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4240762")

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4094626")

Total = 17185
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on November 05, 2009, 10:17:41 PM

I miss quoting specs. :lol:

Anyway, based on your post above, I think you got your eye on the 9800-series cards. For 17k, it's a bit of a stretch.

Here are two possible setups:

In the first one, I tried to use the new AM3 platform, and I got a nice all-solid caps motherboard. I overshot the budget though.
The second one is in the 17k area, but I chose the older AM2+, and a cheap board. The rest of the specs are equal.

The quotes lack optical drives, the case, and peripherals. All prices are from PCHub in Gilmore.

YM me if you wanna talk about it. :-)

AM3 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3913779")

MSI 770-C45 AM3 - 3800 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4040470")

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4040470")

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679572")

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4240762")

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4094626")

Total = 19280

AM2 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon X2™ 5200+ 2.6ghz  - 2795 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679274")

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679359")

Kingston 2GB DDR2-667 - 2500 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3680143")

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679572")

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4240762")

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=4094626")

Total = 17185

Cash price?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 05, 2009, 10:21:58 PM
Cash price?

Yeah. I haven't tried paying through card in PCHub. I doubt they have the facilities though.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: pii_bulacan on November 06, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
Thank you very much Sir sjon014!

i try to mixed it up to cut some bucks...  :-P



can you check this out Sir if this will work just fine, for me to play NBA2K10...  :-)

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600 GT - 3900

Total = 16500

and whats the best LCD monitor for gaming na rin sir? (4k budget)



Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 06, 2009, 09:11:24 PM

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340



Total = 16500


Bro, the motherboard you chose won't work with the processor and the RAM. It's a different socket. The processor is AM3, and the RAM is DDR3. The motherboard in red is AM2+. AM2+ supports only DDR2, whereas AM3 supports DDR3.

The 9600GT is fine. If you want add 600 pesos though, you get a 9800GT. Just sayin'. It's a really nice upgrade for a few hundred bucks. :-D
Palit 9800GT for 4,540 pesos! (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3682331")

As for an LCD... any brand is fine with regards to gaming, because ghosting is a thing of the past. Of course, with your budget, you're limited to 16-inchers and TN panels.

This was the cheapest I could find.
Chimei 16" Wide LCD for 4,750 pesos. (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679726")
Don't trust Chimei? Acer and Samsung will net you a few hundred more. Chimei is pretty reputable though, since they make panels for LG and Samsung.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: pii_bulacan on November 06, 2009, 10:01:32 PM
@Sir sjon014, Thanks bro...



How about this set up sir?

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

MSI 770-C45 AM3 - 3800

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800 GT - 4540

Total = 18510



Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 06, 2009, 10:05:32 PM
Perfect. :-D Those will play recent games at high settings - and I'm sure you'll be able to play future games decently.

You could shave off a few hundred if you downgrade the motherboard to something cheaper (although I wouldn't), and you could also go for less HD space, kaso minus 200 lang yun.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: pii_bulacan on November 06, 2009, 10:15:03 PM
Perfect. :-D Those will play recent games at high settings - and I'm sure you'll be able to play future games decently.

You could shave off a few hundred if you downgrade the motherboard to something cheaper (although I wouldn't), and you could also go for less HD space, kaso minus 200 lang yun.

Alright!  :-D ill go for this set up...  :roll:

Thank you very much bro.. ur a big help!  :-)
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: badongrodrigs on November 06, 2009, 10:26:39 PM
stop stop! change the mobo! plan for the future! go SLI! :D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 06, 2009, 10:36:33 PM
guys yung bang mobo ko maganda na for games pag sinaksakan ko ng branded PSU at Nvidia GeForce 9800gt??
(Asus P5L-MX)
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 06, 2009, 10:38:21 PM
stop stop! change the mobo! plan for the future! go SLI! :D

Pwede rin! Kaso the cheapest mobo with SLI for AM3 (damn those AM3 mobos are hard to find) is an ECS (albeit a high-end one), and it costs 5.7k.
ECS A790GXM-AD3 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3679391")

Saw some SLI benchies though. Twin 9600GT's scale REALLY well. :-D

Oh bro pii_bulacan, that's another option for you to consider. Ain't it fun building rigs? :-D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 06, 2009, 10:43:38 PM
guys yung bang mobo ko maganda na for games pag sinaksakan ko ng branded PSU at Nvidia GeForce 9800gt??
(Asus P5L-MX)

Mobos aren't that big a factor when it comes to gaming naman. When you see motherboards compared head-to-head in gaming benchmarks, usually single-digit lang ang difference sa FPS (Frames per second). Of course, I'm factoring out the 15,000-peso enthusiast motherboards such as the Maximii, Rampages, Eclipses, etc.

Your mobo has an old chipset though. i945 was supposedly paired with Pentium D, four years ago. The limitation I can see is you won't be able to use new Penryn Core 2's (the old Core 2's will work fine though). It might be slower than motherboards with new chipsets, but again, the difference IN GAMES will be minute. You'll still enjoy lots of gaming horsepower if you buy a branded PSU and a 9800GT. :-D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: badongrodrigs on November 06, 2009, 10:49:06 PM
Twin 9600GT's scale REALLY well. :-D


i'd like to try it someday hehe wala na ako makitang stock ng 9600GT with same specs eh :(

my mobo is the MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum, AM2 socket tho.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 06, 2009, 10:55:33 PM
Mobos aren't that big a factor when it comes to gaming naman. When you see motherboards compared head-to-head in gaming benchmarks, usually single-digit lang ang difference sa FPS (Frames per second). Of course, I'm factoring out the 15,000-peso enthusiast motherboards such as the Maximii, Rampages, Eclipses, etc.

Your mobo has an old chipset though. i945 was supposedly paired with Pentium D, four years ago. The limitation I can see is you won't be able to use new Penryn Core 2's (the old Core 2's will work fine though). It might be slower than motherboards with new chipsets, but again, the difference IN GAMES will be minute. You'll still enjoy lots of gaming horsepower if you buy a branded PSU and a 9800GT. :-D


thanks for the information again sir!
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: pii_bulacan on November 06, 2009, 10:56:08 PM
Oh bro pii_bulacan, that's another option for you to consider. Ain't it fun building rigs? :-D[/color]
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Yeah! im having fun... finding funds!  :lol:
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 15, 2009, 04:23:16 PM
tanung ko ulit

 anu ba mas maganda for budget sa power supply
acbel 510/450w or acbel 560/510w?

kasi sabi nila yung acbel 560/510 wala na daw stock ng without led.... ang mahal naman kasi eh..... 3k+ yung with led... yung acbel 510/450w 2.2k mas mura...
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on November 15, 2009, 06:14:19 PM
tanung ko ulit

 anu ba mas maganda for budget sa power supply
acbel 510/450w or acbel 560/510w?

kasi sabi nila yung acbel 560/510 wala na daw stock ng without led.... ang mahal naman kasi eh..... 3k+ yung with led... yung acbel 510/450w 2.2k mas mura...

It depends on what you need. Although the 560W is more expensive you won't need to buy a new power supply if your power requirements would exceed 450W.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 16, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
It depends on what you need. Although the 560W is more expensive you won't need to buy a new power supply if your power requirements would exceed 450W.

how will i know if my computer would exceed 450w??
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on November 16, 2009, 12:06:31 PM
how will i know if my computer would exceed 450w??

Here you go bro

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 16, 2009, 08:17:32 PM
sir hinde ko po alam yung sa HARD DRIVES
 ung hdds na ilalagay hinde ko alam
help naman po
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 16, 2009, 11:59:40 PM
If you bought it within the last few years, it's a 7200rpm drive.

If the data cable is ribbon-type, (flat and broad) it's IDE. If the cable is slim, it's SATA.

10,000rpm drives are uncommon, and so are SCSI ones. Your drive is 5400rpm only if it's really old. As for Green drives go, only the "Green editions" are "Green". (ex. Western Digital Caviar Green)

So there's a good chance your drive is  IDE 7200rpm or  SATA 7200rpm depending on the connector used.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 18, 2009, 11:23:01 PM
guys nakabili na po ako nung acbel power supply 510w yung nakalagay. . .
video card na ang susunod. . .
yung palit 9800 gt magkano po?? hinde po yung green
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 19, 2009, 12:02:12 AM
Cheapest I've seen it is 4640.

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3682842
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 19, 2009, 10:36:01 PM
ah.
may nag sabi sakin na ang inno3d daw ay pangit...
is that true?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: sjon014 on November 19, 2009, 10:46:30 PM
I've had issues with overheating Inno3D's, pero way back pa yun ng Geforce 2 days.

They've upped their game since then, and if you see reviews, Inno3D makes good Geforce copies - as well as OC'ed editions and ones with aftermarket coolers.

Basta reputable and may reviews yung brand, okay na yun.  :-D
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bgomez on November 20, 2009, 06:00:39 AM
ah.
may nag sabi sakin na ang inno3d daw ay pangit...
is that true?

I've had issues with Inno3d regarding their drivers, but then again it might not be their problem, but before that I haven't encountered any problem with any Inno3d card. But I've converted already and now use ATI cards and a firm believer in the quality for a lower price idea of Palit. :)
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on November 30, 2009, 03:12:00 PM
masters ano po kayang month bababa ang price ng 9800 gt??
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: Sugar Ray Vaughan on December 02, 2009, 07:36:35 PM
Go for anything that nVidia offers.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on December 06, 2009, 07:29:25 PM
kelangan ko din po bang ireplace yung stock cpu fan ko??
oh ok na to???
natatakot kasi ako eh?
malapit na kasi ako makabili ng video card
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: melfortes on December 07, 2009, 09:31:06 AM
help, paki comment po sa set-up na ito


PROC: AMD Athlon X2 6000+ Windsor Core
Board: MSI K9N Neo F V3
4x Sata, 4x DDR2 Slots, 3x PCI, 1x PCIEX
4x USB with 3x USB Expansion

Memory: 2x 2GB Kingston KVR Series DDR2 800mhz
Hard Disk: 500GB Seagate SATA HD
Video: Inno3D 9600GT 512MB, 256bit (non-oc)
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Value
PSU: iMaster Pro SLI 600watts

salamat
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: edalbkrad on December 08, 2009, 12:55:06 PM
mga pro dyan sa computer advice naman po kung ano bibilin kong video card?
17" ung monitor ko
gusto ko ma play ng max and smooth yung resolution ng mga games like nba 2k9 ,need for speed shift, GTA 4
hinde ko kasi alam kung ano ba talaga dapat ang bilhin ko
 :?

To play need for speed shift at max settings with 16xQ Anti-aliasing on 17 inch monitor ok na siguro ang ATI HD 4770 or Geforce 9800GT / GTS 250.
1024x768 lang ata max resolution ng 17 inch monitor kaya isagad mo anti-aliasing. Minimum of 8x AA para wala kang makikitang jagged lines.

Yung GTA 4 kahit tatlo pa videocard mo maghahang parin yan, bonak pag port ng Rockstar games from ps3.
At least quadcore cpu ka para mapatakbo ng maayos.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: ioffendpeople on December 08, 2009, 02:10:16 PM
kelangan ko din po bang ireplace yung stock cpu fan ko??
oh ok na to???
natatakot kasi ako eh?
malapit na kasi ako makabili ng video card

if the case (and probably the room your pc is in) is ventilated enough and you're not overclocking, stock fans should be ok
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: smoke4twenty on December 15, 2009, 02:18:21 AM
To play need for speed shift at max settings with 16xQ Anti-aliasing on 17 inch monitor ok na siguro ang ATI HD 4770 or Geforce 9800GT / GTS 250.
1024x768 lang ata max resolution ng 17 inch monitor kaya isagad mo anti-aliasing. Minimum of 8x AA para wala kang makikitang jagged lines.

Yung GTA 4 kahit tatlo pa videocard mo maghahang parin yan, bonak pag port ng Rockstar games from ps3.
At least quadcore cpu ka para mapatakbo ng maayos.

correct sir.. i've been playing GTA4 for a month now.. VC ko lang is 9800GT.. pero sabi nga sa tipidpc talagang abnormal ang takbo ng GTA4, paiba iba daw talaga sya ng benchmark.. haha.. OLATS!
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: bisckye on December 15, 2009, 12:53:40 PM
^
dude magkano mo nabili yung video card mo?
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: badbach66 on December 19, 2009, 05:21:33 PM
Guys would 16k be enough for a kick ass gaming pc? I already have a 160gb hard drive & CRT monitor; I'll upgrade these later on. I'm planning on getting a decent processor (quad core perhaps?), mobo, memory & video card. Plus power supply & housing.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: ysei on December 23, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
Go for GDDR3 GPU or higher.
Title: Re: help buying a new video card for games
Post by: speedkill on January 19, 2010, 09:23:23 AM
Go for GDDR3 GPU or higher.
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