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The Musician Forums => Music Technology & Pro Audio => Topic started by: riffoff on November 05, 2009, 02:14:26 AM
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They have vintage amps genuine mics original softwares nice soundproof But still the quality of their recording
is far from their gadgets name and price
Sorry if I will offend someone here I will not give up names but I cant stand their "pagpapanngap"
thats true naman kapag tinanong mo sila all about recording mixing techniques and processes they all have the answers
but applying them to their product nasaan??? nasaan na yung mga sinasabi nilang ganito ang gagawin para maging ganito output and then ganito para ganyan may mga pinopost pa silang graphs waves etc. etc. na ganito ang mga nangyayari sa frequency kapag e2 ang ginamit mo.
and they keep on telling na may ganito akong cab amp, I have bought a new vintage amp but the clients they had hindi satisfied actually hindi lang sa hindi nasatisfied pangit inshort. My friend has a band named M _ _ _ _ _ L who recorded to a studio owned by someone na sinasabi ko na posero. okay nAMAN ang recording medyo napatagal kaya medyo malaki ang binayaran ng friend ko okay lang sana kasi mukha naman magaling si prof. sound engr. because of his words na pambobola lang pala nagexpect ang friend ko na ok yung magiging tunog nung kanta dahil nga sa mga pinagmamayabang nyang gamit at after makuha yung final mix para gamitin sa isang indie film. nadismaya sila dahil eto ba yung binaran namin parang hindi minix parang pinakanta yung vocals sa loob ng banyo in short raw ang tunog hindi naman siya tunog na parang hindi marunong yung nagrecord but the mixing anlayo sa ieexpect mo sa mga gamit at mga sinasabi niya dito
Im not posting this para siraan ang isang tao dahil wala naman akong binaggit kung sino yun gusto ko lang malaman bakit may mga ganun kayabang magsalita dito and then yung mga nagwa nila hindi katulad ng sinasabi nila and gusto ko lang maging advice din to sa mga gustong magrecording sa mga recording studio eh pumili kayo ng totoo hindi lang sa brand ng gamit kundi totoo din sa nagagawa nila sana hindi kayo maging katulad ng friend ko sobrang regret ng kaibigan ko. Choose wisely wag magpadala sa mga napaktitindi nilang term maaring alam nila ang ibig sabihin pero hindi nila maapply madali lang mlman yung mga terms nila andyan si google oh.
peace !!
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Kung hindi ka man masaya sa final product, wala kang karapatan sabihan ng "panggap" ang engineer in question.
May studio siya. May gamit. May information. May final product kang hawak.
Therefore, hindi siya nagpapanggap na engineer. Engineer siya na pwedeng hindi pa magaling at nag-aaral pa para gumaling.
Why didn't you listen to samples of the engineer's work BEFORE you decided to hire him?
Buti nga marami siyang alam e- application at results nalang ang problema.
*edit (thanks for keeping me in line sir bamf)
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lots of things to learn from this post. i have the following concerns:
1. an engineer is not a magician. they may know theory, they may have the gear but if an artist doesn't have quality stuff the result is simple - mediocre tone in ---> mediocre tone out. this is a hardcore rule. you can't make a cheap guitar sound like a D'Aquisto. as such, the blame for a mediocre or bad product does not lay fully with the engineer or even the studio owner though it is pretty hard to make any D'Aquisto sound bad (why the hell would you?)
2. if your friend went with the process of recording with the said studio, i suspect that they would have took the liberty of doing thorough research on the person's past work. if you invest lots of money in recording, you'd better be damn well prepared by knowing the process as well as the ability of the guy you are hiring.
3. your tone - i agree that production requires skill but, again, all things considered equal in the studio environment a quality preamp and quality mic will be more revealing than your cheaper varieties so what this means is...the more accurate your mic the greater the tendency you might not like what you are hearing back from the monitors if your own gear is the weakest link of the recording chain. the engineer guy is just there to record YOU and your equipment...a good engineer remains as unobtrusive as possible in the process. got good gear? then the engineer should not have to mess with your tone too much. in my experience, the best sessions i've ever done was when i had to do the least amount of stuff to capture the artist's performance. any experienced musician knows good tone and an engineer worth their salt will recognize that and take advantage of it by.....doing absolutely as little as possible.
some things to consider: what instruments were used? were they intonated? were they of good quality? were they in good condition? are they competent musicians (ie, the singer better be on key, on time and for string players, i'd better not hear errant flat or sharp notes outa nowhere)? what was the recording signal chain? what was the mic? converters used? what were the conditions of the recording environment? knowing these pieces of info can tell seasoned engineers exactly what your problem is because it'll stick out like Lindsay Lohan at a Carmelite Nun's convention for Chastity and Purity.
all in all, i think your friend's problem boils down to expectations and miscommunication. it doesn't help them-or the studio-that they are crying over spilled milk. why didn't they bring these concerns up while they were undergoing the mixing process? i don't get why they would complain after the final product was already produced when it is a rule of thumb that they should have been in the middle of everything at all steps leading up to the production of the final product.
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Kung hindi ka man masaya sa final product, wala kang karapatan sabihan ng "panggap" ang engineer in question.
May studio siya. May gamit. May information. May final product kang hawak.
Therefore, hindi siya nagpapanggap na engineer. Engineer siya na pwedeng hindi pa magaling at nag-aaral pa para gumaling.
Why didn't you listen to samples of the engineer's work BEFORE you decided to hire him?
Buti nga marami siyang alam e- application at results nalang ang problema.
Kayo walang COMMON SENSE.
dahan-dahan ser. That already classifies as a personal attack.
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Another thing to consider... when the engineer was mixing, did the band have participation, like acting as producer? I.e., Did the band direct the engineer to do stuff? Were these directions discussed between band and engineer and upon which they eventually agreed?
The engineer is, in the end, "just an engineer", doing what the producer communicates to him.
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Easy there, riff. I know who you're referring to, but I'll keep the knowledge private.
Let's just try to keep our heads cool here.
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lots of things to learn from this post. i have the following concerns:
1. an engineer is not a magician. they may know theory, they may have the gear but if an artist doesn't have quality stuff the result is simple - mediocre tone in ---> mediocre tone out. this is a hardcore rule. you can't make a cheap guitar sound like a D'Aquisto. as such, the blame for a mediocre or bad product does not lay fully with the engineer or even the studio owner though it is pretty hard to make any D'Aquisto sound bad (why the hell would you?)
2. if your friend went with the process of recording with the said studio, i suspect that they would have took the liberty of doing thorough research on the person's past work. if you invest lots of money in recording, you'd better be damn well prepared by knowing the process as well as the ability of the guy you are hiring.
3. your tone - i agree that production requires skill but, again, all things considered equal in the studio environment a quality preamp and quality mic will be more revealing than your cheaper varieties so what this means is...the more accurate your mic the greater the tendency you might not like what you are hearing back from the monitors if your own gear is the weakest link of the recording chain. the engineer guy is just there to record YOU and your equipment...a good engineer remains as unobtrusive as possible in the process. got good gear? then the engineer should not have to mess with your tone too much. in my experience, the best sessions i've ever done was when i had to do the least amount of stuff to capture the artist's performance. any experienced musician knows good tone and an engineer worth their salt will recognize that and take advantage of it by.....doing absolutely as little as possible.
some things to consider: what instruments were used? were they intonated? were they of good quality? were they in good condition? are they competent musicians (ie, the singer better be on key, on time and for string players, i'd better not hear errant flat or sharp notes outa nowhere)? what was the recording signal chain? what was the mic? converters used? what were the conditions of the recording environment? knowing these pieces of info can tell seasoned engineers exactly what your problem is because it'll stick out like Lindsay Lohan at a Carmelite Nun's convention for Chastity and Purity.
all in all, i think your friend's problem boils down to expectations and miscommunication. it doesn't help them-or the studio-that they are crying over spilled milk. why didn't they bring these concerns up while they were undergoing the mixing process? i don't get why they would complain after the final product was already produced when it is a rule of thumb that they should have been in the middle of everything at all steps leading up to the production of the final product.
so true mikey.
to the thread starter, i guess the simple solution there is if you don't like what you hear during tracking (and most likely the engineer will tell you that the sound will get much much better after mixdown), ask for a sample mix of one song. that way you can assess whether to move on or move out.
one must know that engineers aren't magicians. while it's true that they are able to fix a lot of issues about performance, they can only go so far when it comes to tone. sa source parin magdedepend ang overall sound.
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They have vintage amps genuine mics original softwares nice soundproof But still the quality of their recording
is far from their gadgets name and price
Sorry if I will offend someone here I will not give up names but I cant stand their "pagpapanngap"
thats true naman kapag tinanong mo sila all about recording mixing techniques and processes they all have the answers
but applying them to their product nasaan??? nasaan na yung mga sinasabi nilang ganito ang gagawin para maging ganito output and then ganito para ganyan may mga pinopost pa silang graphs waves etc. etc. na ganito ang mga nangyayari sa frequency kapag e2 ang ginamit mo.
and they keep on telling na may ganito akong cab amp, I have bought a new vintage amp but the clients they had hindi satisfied actually hindi lang sa hindi nasatisfied pangit inshort. My friend has a band named M _ _ _ _ _ L who recorded to a studio owned by someone na sinasabi ko na posero. okay nAMAN ang recording medyo napatagal kaya medyo malaki ang binayaran ng friend ko okay lang sana kasi mukha naman magaling si prof. sound engr. because of his words na pambobola lang pala nagexpect ang friend ko na ok yung magiging tunog nung kanta dahil nga sa mga pinagmamayabang nyang gamit at after makuha yung final mix para gamitin sa isang indie film. nadismaya sila dahil eto ba yung binaran namin parang hindi minix parang pinakanta yung vocals sa loob ng banyo in short raw ang tunog hindi naman siya tunog na parang hindi marunong yung nagrecord but the mixing anlayo sa ieexpect mo sa mga gamit at mga sinasabi niya dito
Im not posting this para siraan ang isang tao dahil wala naman akong binaggit kung sino yun gusto ko lang malaman bakit may mga ganun kayabang magsalita dito and then yung mga nagwa nila hindi katulad ng sinasabi nila and gusto ko lang maging advice din to sa mga gustong magrecording sa mga recording studio eh pumili kayo ng totoo hindi lang sa brand ng gamit kundi totoo din sa nagagawa nila sana hindi kayo maging katulad ng friend ko sobrang regret ng kaibigan ko. Choose wisely wag magpadala sa mga napaktitindi nilang term maaring alam nila ang ibig sabihin pero hindi nila maapply madali lang mlman yung mga terms nila andyan si google oh.
peace !!
Oh it's a band that sounds like Sardines and a struggling studio in Manila attacking another struggling studio in Pasig tama ba? :D
If I am not wrong, the sardine-named band took 3 years to finish 3 songs. I really hate blind items pero for the benefit of the people here, do you want to know who we're talking about here? And bakit NAPATAGAL ang recording? Mahirap talaga ang back-biting sa isang katrabaho kung puwede mo naman sabihin nang harapan kung may problema.
Peace? (Kapal ng mukha gamitin ang salitang 'peace'). GET STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. I take no BS when it comes to work.
riffoff sabihin mo na kung sino. If you do not reply to this thread in 48 hours I will call you A COWARD.
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I wish to put up a popcorn stand now. :D Any takers? I kind of miss being my old self.
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Hey I need to see round 1. Lemme test the old skunky trolly powers...
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meron ka bang dalandan flavor mix para sa popcorn? i'll take 2
another must watch thread...
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Oh well, the cat's out of the bag. Let the fur fly then.
I'll roll up my fave armchair and I'll take one bag of popcorn, please. Who's got the brewski?
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@TS
Wala akong nakikitang dahilan para sabihan mo siyang poser.
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@TS
Wala akong nakikitang dahilan para sabihan mo siyang poser.
+ 3.14159265...
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They have vintage amps genuine mics original softwares nice soundproof But still the quality of their recording
is far from their gadgets name and price
You forgot to factor in the talent and work ethics of the artist. Give 30 artists the same studio, not all of them would come up with stellar results.
Sorry if I will offend someone here I will not give up names but I cant stand their "pagpapanngap"
Define "PAGPAPANGGAP".
thats true naman kapag tinanong mo sila all about recording mixing techniques and processes they all have the answers
Better than NOT knowing the science and being a practitioner.
but applying them to their product nasaan??? nasaan na yung mga sinasabi nilang ganito ang gagawin para maging ganito output and then ganito para ganyan may mga pinopost pa silang graphs waves etc. etc. na ganito ang mga nangyayari sa frequency kapag e2 ang ginamit mo.
and they keep on telling na may ganito akong cab amp, I have bought a new vintage amp but the clients they had hindi satisfied actually hindi lang sa hindi nasatisfied pangit inshort.
Blue:
At anong tunog ang habol? Kahit may sandamukal na vintage amp sa studio, kung hindi gusto o hindi kailangan sa recording, di naman dapat ipilit sa client yun. Kung ang client naman ang pumili at hindi sila nasiyahan AFTER ng post-production, sino ang may sala? Eh diba the client is always right?
Green:
That goes to show how VISUAL listening is destructive. Kaibigan, waveforms are representations of a signal but don't make the mistake of looking at waveforms to 'hear' things. May mga foreign na 2-bus master na -9dBFS RMS na mas malakas pakinggan kaysa sa mga locally 'mastered' na 2-bus na -7.5dBFS RMS. Ibig ko lang sabihin, hindi yung graph and numbers ang mahalaga, kundi yung naririnig mo.
My friend has a band named M _ _ _ _ _ L who recorded to a studio owned by someone na sinasabi ko na posero. okay nAMAN ang recording medyo napatagal kaya medyo malaki ang binayaran ng friend ko
I know the figures to this but to lay the record straight, that was a measly P2,500/song UNLIMITED na inabot ng 3 taon. Malaki ha.
okay lang sana kasi mukha naman magaling si prof. sound engr. because of his words na pambobola lang pala nagexpect ang friend ko na ok yung magiging tunog nung kanta dahil nga sa mga pinagmamayabang nyang gamit at after makuha yung final mix para gamitin sa isang indie film. nadismaya sila dahil eto ba yung binaran namin parang hindi minix parang pinakanta yung vocals sa loob ng banyo in short raw ang tunog hindi naman siya tunog na parang hindi marunong yung nagrecord but the mixing anlayo sa ieexpect mo sa mga gamit at mga sinasabi niya dito
narinig ko rin yung mix. Hindi ako nasiyahan pero ayaw ko galawin hangga't di sabihin sa akin na galawin. Touch move principle.
Im not posting this para siraan ang isang tao dahil wala naman akong binaggit kung sino yun gusto ko lang malaman bakit may mga ganun kayabang magsalita dito and then yung mga nagwa nila hindi katulad ng sinasabi nila and gusto ko lang maging advice din to sa mga gustong magrecording sa mga recording studio eh pumili kayo ng totoo hindi lang sa brand ng gamit kundi totoo din sa nagagawa nila sana hindi kayo maging katulad ng friend ko sobrang regret ng kaibigan ko. Choose wisely wag magpadala sa mga napaktitindi nilang term maaring alam nila ang ibig sabihin pero hindi nila maapply madali lang mlman yung mga terms nila andyan si google oh.
peace !!
So bakit with 4 posts ay pupunta ka rito at iiyak? Ano ba ang napatunayan mo so far para pakinggan ka namin? For all I care it is propaganda. Everything you said here, should be dealt on a personal or client-provider level. Posting things like this is a sign of vested interest. At one point may isang studio dito na gumawa ng maraming spam posts dito para iadvertise ang studio nila. Pinagtanggol ko pa kay Sir KitC yung posts ng studio kasi hanapbuhay lang naman ang ginagawa. Tapos malaman mong iniignore lang yung moderator warnings siyempre bad shot kaagad.
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grrrrr I am waiting for the first jab from riffoff. :-D
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grrrrr I am waiting for the first jab from riffoff. :-D
unload the flurries skunkyfunk, go for the quickest KO. huwag mo na hintaying yung jab, kase mukhang di na lalabas si TS, nagbackfire yung ginawa eh.. (sorry i thought this is BP, with the popcorn and all)
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imo, one can say whatever he or she wants offline. kung gusto mong manira ng kapwa enhinyero, do it in your own private space. not in a public forum. kasiraan sa hanap buhay yan. riffoff, if you are an engineer, be considerate of other engineers. pare-pareho tayong natuto palang. ang totoo malayo pa ang kakayahan nating lahat compared sa kakayahan ng mga enhinyero sa labas ng bansa. magtulungan nalang tayo.
i respectfully request our admin to lock this thread.
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@ riffoff - before posting what you have already posted, did you or your friend attempted in anyways to have this issue resolved with the engineer that you are referring to? Ang alam ko e walang hindi naaayos sa mahusay na talakayan at ma-bote-ng usapan. :wink:
I second Hazel's request to lock this thread. Let's not add fuel to this fire.
Cheers!
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i respectfully request our admin to lock this thread.
not before i get all IBTL up in this bich!! :evil:
seriously as much as i rag on s_ _ _ _y (does not rhyme with sardines) for his troll threads, this is bit of a low blow. not gonna generate any sympathy with that approach mr. threadstarter im jus sayin
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not before i get all IBTL up in this bich!! :evil:
seriously as much as i rag on s_ _ _ _y (does not rhyme with sardines) for his troll threads, this is bit of a low blow. not gonna generate any sympathy with that approach mr. threadstarter im jus sayin
intelligent trolling > stupid trolling
A troll is a troll is a troll. :D
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@ riffoff - before posting what you have already posted, did you or your friend attempted in anyways to have this issue resolved with the engineer that you are referring to? Ang alam ko e walang hindi naaayos sa mahusay na talakayan at ma-bote-ng usapan. :wink:
I second Hazel's request to lock this post. Let's not add fuel to this fire.
Cheers!
if he's talking about ME, I don't understand why they would not tell me. Eh yung gitarista/bokalista nila humingi pa ng tulong para i-order ko siya ng Telecaster from West LA Music para makamura siya at isabay sa drumheads ko. As in, wala silang sinabi sa akin at all. Pinatugtog pa kami sa EP launch nila. So... who's making the propaganda?
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To the mods, can you give me a good workout before you lock the thread? I wanna know who riffoff is, and what he has to say.
Nakakainip mehng.
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Riffoff, is that Filipino style for rip off?
Lets check Google.............mmmmmmmmmmm...........
Ripoff Report: Drive Finanical riffoff harassing rude and thiefs ... - [ Isalin ang pahinang ito ]17 Aug 2009 ... Drive Finanical riffoff harassing rude and thiefs. takes money that don't belong to them
?????????? :?
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imo, one can say whatever he or she wants offline. kung gusto mong manira ng kapwa enhinyero, do it in your own private space. not in a public forum. kasiraan sa hanap buhay yan. riffoff, if you are an engineer, be considerate of other engineers. pare-pareho tayong natuto palang. ang totoo malayo pa ang kakayahan nating lahat compared sa kakayahan ng mga enhinyero sa labas ng bansa. magtulungan nalang tayo.
i respectfully request our admin to lock this thread.
I tend to believe he is a 'sound engineer'. His post on the Studio Central sticky:
BTMT(beneath the mango tree) recording studio
visit www.btmt.multiply.com
:-D
It is propaganda. Walang mangyayari sa bansa natin kung magsisiraan tayo.
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Beneath the Mango Tree studio: http://btmt1013.multiply.com/
riffoff is related to (or is also) jejunaidrmmr? Halaaaaaaa.
Studio Location:Near TUP and ADU, Near Sm Manila, Along Zobet St. Beneath the mango tree.. yeah!
Studio Name: BTMT (Beneath the Mango Tree) Band Rehearsal and Recording Studio
Studio Address: 1013 C. Zobel St. Ermita Manila
Services: BAND REHEARSAL
RECORDING
BAND SET UP
PA SET UP
Rates: P160 per hr
Contact No.: 09178713194/09235964076/09286278977
Website/Email: btmtstudio_bandrehearsal@yahoo.com.ph http://btmt1013.multiply.com
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let this serve as a lesson. if someone asks for recommendations, ibigay nyo yung mga pangalan ng studio o engineers na gusto nyo, but if no one asks for your opinion, keep your unkind thoughts to yourself. remember, what goes around comes around.
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Choose wisely wag magpadala sa mga napaktitindi nilang term maaring alam nila ang ibig sabihin pero hindi nila maapply madali lang mlman yung mga terms nila andyan si google oh.
Google is your friend. But having the knowledge IN YOUR HEAD and PRACTICING is another. Knowledge is just like an umbrella. You always forget it at home when you don't use it. You'd hardly forget your umbrella when it is raining out there.
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Beneath the Mango Tree studio: http://btmt1013.multiply.com/
riffoff is related to (or is also) jejunaidrmmr? Halaaaaaaa.
Tol naging client ko rin ang Jejunai and alam kong may rehearsal studio na pag-aari yung drummer. Actually they are nice people. I don't know if they are the ones behind this thread but I presume not.
Di ko rin siya ma-connect sa bandang M _ _ _ _ _ L. Sila yung nag EP launch sa 6UG at tumogs pa nga ang GinRum & Truth nun. Naw yu know.
Ang suspetya ko it is propaganda by another studio in Manila. And one of the owners/operators posts here. And they are ABSENT in this thread.
Hula hula hula. Do your bes.
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let this serve as a lesson. if someone asks for recommendations, ibigay nyo yung mga pangalan ng studio o engineers na gusto nyo, but if no one asks for your opinion, keep your unkind thoughts to yourself. remember, what goes around comes around.
Alam mo Hazel, this is weird. There are no absolute rights and wrongs in recording. But how come, when the finished product is good, the artist (not even the producer) gets the credit. If the product is 'not good' (to the artist), it is the engineer and studio's fault.
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That's true, Dodjie. Art is a matter of taste. What's genius to you might be garbage to some, and vice versa. It helps if you (the engineer) share the same vision with the artist and/or the producer, and it will be chaotic if it's not the case.
Anak ng... bakit huli na naman ako dito? Ubos na ba yung popcorn? :-)
@KitC -- Don't you dare! Mainit ang ulo ko. Walang sinigang dito... hmp!
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Ubos na ba yung popcorn? :-)
I think it is only the beginning. Intro pa lang ito boys en gels.
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Alam mo Hazel, this is weird. There are no absolute rights and wrongs in recording. But how come, when the finished product is good, the artist (not even the producer) gets the credit. If the product is 'not good' (to the artist), it is the engineer and studio's fault.
you win some you lose some. the best credit an engineer can receive are recommendations and returning customers.
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you win some you lose some. the best credit an engineer can receive are recommendations and returning customers.
AND FREE BEER FROM CLIENTS! :D
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So when your customers come back all the time and bring beer that means the best recordings take place while the engineer is drunk? :? :evil:
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So when your customers come back all the time and bring beer that means the best recordings take place while the engineer is drunk? :? :evil:
That usually happens after the final mix is done. Other than that, it is a case to case basis. :D
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If any of the past hit recordings are any indication, I think beer is the lesser evil.
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If any of the past hit recordings are any indication, I think beer is the lesser evil.
Oh yes. Eddie Kramer used to cover up for the Stones when police went to their recording sessions. He recalls trying to clear up the smoke in the rooms before letting the cops in. Magpapa-autograph lang pala. Akala raid. :D
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many cases to come :roll:
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O nasan na si riffoff?
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O nasan na si riffoff?
inawat ko na si riffoff... ngayon ko lang nalaman to. dahil 5 mins ago ko lang nabasa. magpopost ko ulit. in 5 minutes. kailangan ko magpost. dahil natatakot na ako sa mga inosenteng pangalan na lumalabas sa thread na to.
pero bago ako magpost ulit... linawin ko lang... wala pong propaganda.
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Just for the record, there is no such thing as a perfect recording studio. If that were the case, then why do the biggest big name bands go from one studio to another if budget isn't an issue? Take Abbey Road in UK for instance. Reportedly, they are losing money now, which is why they also do mini concerts there nowadays. And they sell DVDs produced in Abbey Road. Imagine, a great studio with almost anything an artist would covet, LOSING MONEY?
The advent of recording at home is probably the biggest culprit in the losses of the major studios, especially those that invested just before the advent of digital recording through DAW and computers.
Now when an artists sets foot in a studio, big or small, will great mics and great equipment guarantee a great recording, given a certain budget? We can never tell. If the band shows up late or worse, doesn't show up, will they succeed? If an artist fails to establish rapport with the engineer, gaffer, and everyone, will they succeed?
I dunno if this hold true, but the best results in recording that I have experienced were with people who were focused on their work, and had talent. Take away the talent, a little trickery in the studio can nail decent results. Take away the focus, everything goes down.
I would bet that the people who whine about getting dismal results in recording in a low profile studio would also experience the same in a high end studio where everything they need is there. The attitude comes more into play than the tools.
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inawat ko na si riffoff... ngayon ko lang nalaman to. dahil 5 mins ago ko lang nabasa. magpopost ko ulit. in 5 minutes. kailangan ko magpost. dahil natatakot na ako sa mga inosenteng pangalan na lumalabas sa thread na to.
pero bago ako magpost ulit... linawin ko lang... wala pong propaganda.
Louie I know you are a nice guy. Kwinento na sa akin yan ng isang bokalista ng M______L. Siguro the best sanang ginawa ng mga taong involved ay sumangguni sa mga taong inaangal. Hindi Bitag ang Philmusic.
Ang di ko lang magets, maraming occassions na puwedeng pag-usapan namin ng M_______L ang trabaho pero bakit wala akong naririnig. Nagawa ko pang tulungan para makakuha ng Tele na brand new for them from the US. Wala akong kinita dun dahil ako pa nag-supply ng strings dahil nakalimutan lagyan (dismantled kasi neck and body).
Pa-PM sino ba si riffoff. (Shhhhhhhh)
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wag na po natin idamay ang M______L at ang btmbt...
riffoff's a friend of mine... may small time recording studio po ako... na naging tambayan na din ng mga kaibigan ko... may free wifi connection... kanya kanyang dala ng laptop... magtatanong sila sakin. "louie, san ba ako makakabili ng murang ganito," sagot ko lagi "philmusic." at ayan... atleast 3 sa mga friends ko nag-adik na din sa philmusic... kakatambay sa bahay, napamahal na sa studio...
so eto na yung kwento... may mga tambay din dito na dati pang active sa philmusic... nagkaroon ako ng mga clients na nanggaling kay skunkyfunk. kung tama ang memory ko... apat. may common sa mga testimonya nila... "ang gaganda ng gamit niya... pero..." hindi sila masaya... skunk, or dodjie, hindi kita kilala, hindi pa kita nakakatrabaho... kahit ako mismo nayayabangan sayo... pero i swear, kahit maputol pa tenga ko ngayon... hindi ako nagcocomment tuwing may sinasabi silang negative tungkol sayo at sa venture mo. bakit? unang una,,, ako mismo ang masisira kapag siniraan kita... pangalawa,,, hindi ko masasabing mas magaganda products ko kasi inconsistent pa yun mga saakin... pangatlo... gaya ng sabi ko, hindi pa kita nakakatrabaho.
so clear na po ba? si skunk ang tinitira ni riffoff
kasi po... kapag pinaguusapan ang philmusic... laging napapasok ang pangalan ni skunkyfunk... dahil may isang tambay dito... malaki ang hinanakit sayo. dati mo siyang nakatrabaho
pero eto talaga ang reason kung bakit ako nagpopost.
public apology po ito... i am sincerely sorry sa nangyayari dito... nakikiusap po ako na ibigay niyo nalang sa mga biktima ng ondoy ang mga popcorns niyo.
sir Kit-C can attest to this... isang beses lang po ako tumira ng tao dito... kasi po nagkapalpakan na nga sa ptoject niya, nagsalita pa ng hindi maganda tungkol sa quality ng album namin na nirecord sa TRACKS. once lang po ako nag-alboroto dito sa philmusic. since then... nawalan na ako ng gana sa philmusic... pinapasok ko nalang ito kapag may kailangan akong item... paminsan minsan pag walang magawa... nagcocomment ako sa mga nagtatanong.
i am sorry kung nagkulang ako sa briefing sa mga friends ko... alam din ni sir Kit to.. na nagkaatraso yung isang kaibigan ko kasi nagpost sa maling thread... at sabi ko "hindi na po mauulit" pero eto nanaman. unang una, dear mod, im so sorry. sorry sa paninira na nangyari... sorry din kung mabibitin yung popcorn mo.
pangalawa... skunk... yeah, nayayabangan ako sayo... dati pa... pero nagreact na ba ako ng masama against you? dati tinira ko yung isang forumite, akala mo ikaw... i respect you, your knowledge, your experience, and your enthusiasm, I would not do this to you, kasi po may studio din ako... ayaw ko na may sisira saakin... golden rule diba? so walang propaganda... pero hindi ako naghuhugas kamay... i recognize my shortcomings... sinabihan ko na "wag niyo nalang pansisnin" pero heto na... too late.
pangatlo... in behalf of riffoff... pasensya na po sa lahat ng na-eskandalo. he is a clone. ngayon ko lang din nalaman. mainit po ulo niya eh...
tama po ang sinabi ni starfugger. kung may negative at mapanira na gustong sabihin, kung pwede po, itago nalang natin. magtulungan nalang dahil ambobo pa natin compared sa ibang bansa... at mejo nakakaawa tayo tignan kapag nagsisiraan dito... kasi yung mga biggest boss sa industry wala sa philmusic... kung meron man,, sila yung mga pinakamabait magcomment - i.e. Mikep, KitC, Mr. Salongga, Mr. Tanaka. Starfugger.
at nahihiya po ako sainyong lahat... humihingi po ako ng patawad.
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let us respect each other - ironically, this is something i learned at Philmusic.
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di na po ako makakareply today. bye guys.
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boss pakibura na yung picture ng BTMT. wala silang kinalaman dito.
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wag na po natin idamay ang M______L at ang btmbt...
rifoff brought it here, no one else.
so eto na yung kwento... may mga tambay din dito na dati pang active sa philmusic... nagkaroon ako ng mga clients na nanggaling kay skunkyfunk. kung tama ang memory ko... apat. may common sa mga testimonya nila... "ang gaganda ng gamit niya... pero..." hindi sila masaya... skunk, or dodjie, hindi kita kilala, hindi pa kita nakakatrabaho... kahit ako mismo nayayabangan sayo... pero i swear, kahit maputol pa tenga ko ngayon... hindi ako nagcocomment tuwing may sinasabi silang negative tungkol sayo at sa venture mo. bakit? unang una,,, ako mismo ang masisira kapag siniraan kita... pangalawa,,, hindi ko masasabing mas magaganda products ko kasi inconsistent pa yun mga saakin... pangatlo... gaya ng sabi ko, hindi pa kita nakakatrabaho.
Una. Kahit ako, hindi ako masaya sa lahat ng works ko. Believe me, maybe 10% lang ng trabaho ko yung masasabi ko na pang-resume. The rest is just... ok. So walang rason para buhatin ko ang sarili kong bangko.
Pangalawa. Maganda ang gamit. Pangit na gamit. Pero meron ding maganda ang work ethics. Meron din pangit na work ethics. Kung sino man ang tambay sa studio mo (aka riffoff), isang sabi mo lang ng pangalan niya kaya kong ilatag kung bakit ganoon ang kinalabasan ng produkto. Pero masasabi ko lang, the best results I have achieved were those who had talent, and focus. And the irony is, the best results were from those that I exerted least efforts.
Pangatlo. Consistency - chong hindi mo kailangan maging consistent kasi hindi naman lahat ng artist pare-pareho ng tugtog, Siguro may ibang music na mas demanding sa oras kagaya ng prog kaya mas magastos sa oras. Pero ang work ethic pa rin dapat ang consistent. Kung may problema sa trabaho, bakit hindi muna natin silipin alin ang problema? Kasi sa nakikita ko, masyado na tayong lito na hindi natin alam kung gamit ba ang problema o ugali.
so clear na po ba? si skunk ang tinitira ni riffoff
At sino siya? Name please.
kasi po... kapag pinaguusapan ang philmusic... laging napapasok ang pangalan ni skunkyfunk... dahil may isang tambay dito... malaki ang hinanakit sayo. dati mo siyang nakatrabaho
Ok then give me the chance to patch up things pero wala naman nagsasabi o nagtetext. Ni ha ni ho. I can't tolerate being emo.
pero eto talaga ang reason kung bakit ako nagpopost.
public apology po ito... i am sincerely sorry sa nangyayari dito... nakikiusap po ako na ibigay niyo nalang sa mga biktima ng ondoy ang mga popcorns niyo.
sir Kit-C can attest to this... isang beses lang po ako tumira ng tao dito... kasi po nagkapalpakan na nga sa ptoject niya, nagsalita pa ng hindi maganda tungkol sa quality ng album namin na nirecord sa TRACKS. once lang po ako nag-alboroto dito sa philmusic. since then... nawalan na ako ng gana sa philmusic... pinapasok ko nalang ito kapag may kailangan akong item... paminsan minsan pag walang magawa... nagcocomment ako sa mga nagtatanong.
i am sorry kung nagkulang ako sa briefing sa mga friends ko... alam din ni sir Kit to.. na nagkaatraso yung isang kaibigan ko kasi nagpost sa maling thread... at sabi ko "hindi na po mauulit" pero eto nanaman. unang una, dear mod, im so sorry. sorry sa paninira na nangyari... sorry din kung mabibitin yung popcorn mo.
You don't need to apologize. You just need to explain why this is happening.
pangalawa... skunk... yeah, nayayabangan ako sayo... dati pa... pero nagreact na ba ako ng masama against you? dati tinira ko yung isang forumite, akala mo ikaw... i respect you, your knowledge, your experience, and your enthusiasm, I would not do this to you, kasi po may studio din ako... ayaw ko na may sisira saakin... golden rule diba? so walang propaganda... pero hindi ako naghuhugas kamay... i recognize my shortcomings... sinabihan ko na "wag niyo nalang pansisnin" pero heto na... too late.
Eto yung isang sinasabi ko dati pa eh. We want to know the truth but we cannot handle it. Tama sabi ni Hazel, marami pa tayong lahat as engineers na dapat matutunan. You wanna know where you stand? Post your work on the Andy Sneap and Prorec forums. Kung mayabang ang tingin mo sa akin I respect that, but if you wanna compete with the world, you should be ready for the world's comments.
pangatlo... in behalf of riffoff... pasensya na po sa lahat ng na-eskandalo. he is a clone. ngayon ko lang din nalaman. mainit po ulo niya eh...
I thought clones are not allowed?
tama po ang sinabi ni starfugger. kung may negative at mapanira na gustong sabihin, kung pwede po, itago nalang natin. magtulungan nalang dahil ambobo pa natin compared sa ibang bansa... at mejo nakakaawa tayo tignan kapag nagsisiraan dito... kasi yung mga biggest boss sa industry wala sa philmusic... kung meron man,, sila yung mga pinakamabait magcomment - i.e. Mikep, KitC, Mr. Salongga, Mr. Tanaka. Starfugger.
at nahihiya po ako sainyong lahat... humihingi po ako ng patawad.
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boss pakibura na yung picture ng BTMT. wala silang kinalaman dito.
got it :)
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Im learning from this kind of.. say.. conversations? :-)
Asan na yung riffoff? :?
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This thread is moving a lot slower than I was expecting. :-P
By the way, I am a poser:
(http://images.chiquirica.multiply.com/image/5/photos/127/500x500/18/DSC-0122.JPG?et=NvcnkMw1pQEKj5lgxEw8fg&nmid=269182097)
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Wow, ang bilis kumalat ng apoy talaga dito, 1 day lang di pumunta 3 pages na thread na.
Character assassination nga yan kung ganyan. Tapos blind item pa.
Sa studio namin we make it a point not to comment pag medyo ma-intriga ang sinasabi ng ilang clients. Alam kasi namin na maraming factors kung bakit pwedeng hindi maganda ang lumabas na produkto sa isang studio.
Panahon na siguro na magtayo ng samahan ng mga studio at engineers, para at least may cross reference/referrals sa credentials, atsaka formal na sharing ng techniques and knowledge. Kasi, kahit i-share ang knowledge and techniques iba-iba pa rin ang application nyan, depende sa artist, sa kanta, sa sitwasyon. Ang daming variables.
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This thread is moving a lot slower than I was expecting. :-P
By the way, I am a poser:
(http://images.chiquirica.multiply.com/image/5/photos/127/500x500/18/DSC-0122.JPG?et=NvcnkMw1pQEKj5lgxEw8fg&nmid=269182097)
Tadat-dat da-dat-dat...dat. tot-tot-tot totot to-tot tot...
Player 2 ka malamang (luigi). naka-green ka e hahaha.
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If I am not wrong, the sardine-named band took 3 years to finish 3 songs. I really hate blind items pero for the benefit of the people here, do you want to know who we're talking about here? And bakit NAPATAGAL ang recording? Mahirap talaga ang back-biting sa isang katrabaho kung puwede mo naman sabihin nang harapan kung may problema.
wows. this got big fast. 3 years to finish 3 songs? AND asked for help to cut down on cost for personal instruments? you got a good heart on you, skunky, because I would've sl@pped the retainers off the kid if they did that to me. studios are businesses, big or small, not a charity for pre-pubescent kids so for them to ask for as much assistance (and give it to them) and patience as they did AND to do this in return is...well...shows the type of folks that they are, really. love poser pic. didn't know luigi favored crease-free Docker slacks.
doing a bit of detective work on the possible folks turned up a good prospect for the identity of the band. wonder what they're trying to accomplish? if they knew any better, they'd be aware that the local touring circuit is a tight knit community. doing this sort of thing and not being responsible for your own concerns in an adult way (they look like kids...and sound like whiney kids) is gonna hit you back later.
@riffwhateveryournameis and said sardine band: play nice, kids, you are around a lot of seasoned veterans that have tons to teach so know your place and give respect where it is due because these folks that work in the industry are the foundation of the scene you are trying to make it in. it doesn't pay to do something, pay for it, get a product in return and harbor ill will then talk behind the person's back because you didn't end up liking what you wanted. speak your mind! folks can't do a better job if you don't ask 'em to do something more to your liking.
pocorn's up...kit et al, i've got the Red Horse brewski *cling* cling*
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nahilo ako...
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pocorn's up...kit et al, i've got the Red Horse brewski *cling* cling*
Great! Hope they're ice cold 'coz my throat's getting dry from the junk food I've been eating while reading this thread. Add to the fact that them jalapeño chips are positively flaming HOT! (i grew tired of the popcorn) :-D
A word to the wise though. Crabs are usually known for walking sideways and very rarely up (as in coconut crabs), but they still walk sideways. Let's move away from crab mentality and concentrate on how we can learn and better ourselves in this business. A lot of our contemporaries are considered world class, but if we drag each other downwards, there's no way we can rise above mediocrity.
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Great! Hope they're ice cold 'coz my throat's getting dry from the junk food I've been eating while reading this thread. Add to the fact that them jalapeño chips are positively flaming HOT! (i grew tired of the popcorn) :-D
A word to the wise though. Crabs are usually known for walking sideways and very rarely up (as in coconut crabs), but they still walk sideways. Let's move away from crab mentality and concentrate on how we can learn and better ourselves in this business. A lot of our contemporaries are considered world class, but if we drag each other downwards, there's no way we can rise above mediocrity.
jalapeno chips eh? very nice.
i agree with working together on improving the local scene. i would also like to add that folks should work with the producer/studio/engineer instead of relying on folks to read their minds. if folks did that more, there wouldn't be cases like this thread. a good lesson in communication and "being on the same page" can be learned here. when recording, make your expectations known and speak your mind. nothing is going to get done if folks don't say what they want and say what they mean.
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I totally agree with everyone helping each other and treating each other with respect especially in our scene/industry. Ako rin, I learned that here as well as with my friends who are really active in the music scene.
I can understand that sometimes people can be hot-headed and or cocky and or just wanting to vent. Online forums are a prime place because you can remain anonymous. I think we've all been guilty of that at some point or another.
Then again, there's threads like these that are really laced with malice.
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On the engineering side, as an upstart engineer, it usually takes me a few days to get a mix that can compete with foreign recordings. A week or more for fine tuning pa.
When dealing with home studio limitations and variables like the artist's performance and tone, time is really needed.
And of course, time is money. Money is always an issue in this country.
In some cases, time = money = better mixes/masters. Agree?
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i think what we should all bear in mind, in case unkind thoughts towards other engineers come our way is this: "gagaling din yan." lahat ng pursigido at masipag mag-aral gumagaling din eventually. skill will no longer be the issue in time. only 2 things will stand out by then ---- ATTITUDE and work ethic. let us make it part of our work ethic not to bad mouth other engineers. if someone directly asks you for your opinion on some engineer you wouldn't personally recommend, keep your comments professional and open.
i sincerely hope we all get along as colleagues.
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I totally agree with everyone helping each other and treating each other with respect especially in our scene/industry. Ako rin, I learned that here as well as with my friends who are really active in the music scene.
I can understand that sometimes people can be hot-headed and or cocky and or just wanting to vent. Online forums are a prime place because you can remain anonymous. I think we've all been guilty of that at some point or another.
Then again, there's threads like these that are really laced with malice.
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On the engineering side, as an upstart engineer, it usually takes me a few days to get a mix that can compete with foreign recordings. A week or more for fine tuning pa.
When dealing with home studio limitations and variables like the artist's performance and tone, time is really needed.
And of course, time is money. Money is always an issue in this country.
In some cases, time = money = better mixes/masters. Agree?
Actually, I think IN MOST CASES, time = money = better mixes. Now I believe what the pros in the US say: Book as much mixing time as tracking. There are some issues that you cannot address if there is way too little time for mixing. For some, they mix a song in 2 hours, whereas, abroad, maybe 2 hours would be wholly dedicated to cleaning up the drums alone.
We are all facing economic issues in record production, because if not, then why do artists invest on home recording equipment nowadays, thinking they can "save more" doing that than paying a real studio?
Another thing I wanna point out: If artists are HAPPY with the recording, don't assume that the engineer is happy with the sound. Maybe, the engineer is happy for the artist because, he did his job, but not necessarily happy with the tone, the performance, etc. On the contrary, if the artist is NOT HAPPY with the results, do not assume that the engineer was satisfied/happy with the turnout (for lack of saying, ok na yan). There could be many reasons why the mix didn't turn out well. It could be poor communication, poor choices in tone, and a lot of other things that could have been cured or addressed in the tracking stage. An engineer would not move forward to the next step if the artist or producer doesn't say so.
Moreso, if a band is a no-show, or has punctuality issues, and much time is wasted, don't blame the engineer. To be honest, it is the same sardine band that I had the most issues with in terms of punctuality. They cannot even get their a$$es in the studio on a regular basis. And to prove my point, they had no drummer for their EP launch and hired somebody on the drums the day before the launch and frankly, it was a subpar performance. Talk about focus - they cannot even focus on their own relationships in the band.
Anyway, I am more than glad to hear any complaints about my work. Every engineer should. Every studio should. It is not like I am gonna beat you up if you complaint. In fact, I have a policy that if you are out of time, you have the benefit of tweaking your mix for 15 mins FOR FREE. Just listen to the final mix over a week or month and scribble down the comments and the time registers. Beyond 15 mins (hey that's enough for tweaking, thanks to memory recall) you pay for the time.
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i didn't read the whole thread and someone probably brought this up already. Ive read the first and last 3 sections thru.
So here my 2 cents.
it all boils down to "producership", either you get one (something a lot of indie bands hate doing), or you become one which is actually harder that it looks.
to sum it all up, its a communication problem most often than not. and i've been on both shoes at some point in my life.
artist = creative process
engineer = technical process
both language don't necessarily translate stuff on the same level.
producer = speaks both language
*and if you get one, he has to someone who is in 'tune' with the band, he's practically part of the band that's not playing
**if you're a musician, you have to have an equal amount of ample experience in both areas to fully understand how things work
got to have a loooot of patience... if you can pull those off... you can be an artist/producer
speaking of patience artists are usually too eager to hear and finish their work
engineers prefer taking as much time as needed to do their work
that alone is such a conflict, a conflict that a producer can come to reconcile
just my 2 cents
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Wise words Skyturn........................
Yes i'm late this morning, to many customers came back yesterday with to many beer................hehehehehe :wink:
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it all boils down to "producership", either you get one (something a lot of indie bands hate doing), or you become one which is actually harder that it looks.
to sum it all up, its a communication problem most often than not. and i've been on both shoes at some point in my life.
artist = creative process
engineer = technical process
excellent points there. Where I disagree is that it all boils down to communication. For me it all boils down to attitude. Professional attitude is (coming on time, coming prepared, being prepared, asking questions, coming up with answers and solutions). Even with subpar talent, professional attitude will yield a good result. Even with subpar equipment and facilities.
One thing you are absolutely correct about is the need for a producer, sadly that's been the most overlooked role in the current state of things.
This thread is turning out to be an introspective on the ins and outs of record production huh? And the wisdom of a lot of folks are also coming through. All good stuff, too. keep em coming.
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excellent points there. Where I disagree is that it all boils down to communication. For me it all boils down to attitude. Professional attitude is (coming on time, coming prepared, being prepared, asking questions, coming up with answers and solutions). Even with subpar talent, professional attitude will yield a good result. Even with subpar equipment and facilities.
One thing you are absolutely correct about is the need for a producer, sadly that's been the most overlooked role in the current state of things.
This thread is turning out to be an introspective on the ins and outs of record production huh? And the wisdom of a lot of folks are also coming through. All good stuff, too. keep em coming.
As Francis Reyes said, "...the problem with some artists is that they think they are God's gift to music, but in reality they stink. Sometimes you need a someone <i.e. a producer> to tell they stink because they are used to their own smell...:
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^sir dodj, i smell something fishy.. :roll:
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^sir dodj, i smell something fishy.. :roll:
I think it's sardines.
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As Francis Reyes said, "...the problem with some artists is that they think they are God's gift to music, but in reality they stink. Sometimes you need a someone <i.e. a producer> to tell they stink because they are used to their own smell...:
a good producer will not put it in those exact words however, if he knows the band will be offended. my experience working with various producers reveals a common denominator: more often than not, the mindset of a producer is that of a "morale booster". they employ different styles of encouraging the artist achieve their common goals. they also have techniques of keeping the creative energy flowing. the artist has the responsibility of coming to the sessions prepared, meaning all the points discussed and home works given during the pre-prod sessions should, by the time they hit the studio, be covered.
generally producers i have worked with carry an encouraging and supportive attitude.
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a good producer will not put it in those exact words however, if he knows the band will be offended. my experience working with various producers reveals a common denominator: more often than not, the mindset of a producer is that of a "morale booster". they employ different styles of encouraging the artist achieve their common goals. they also have techniques of keeping the creative energy flowing. the artist has the responsibility of coming to the sessions prepared, meaning all the points discussed and home works given during the pre-prod sessions should, by the time they hit the studio, be covered.
generally producers i have worked with carry an encouraging and supportive attitude.
very well said. a producer encourages artists to be the best at what they do, even if it means telling them,"okay, you gave me this song but i know you can do a hell of a lot better than this. do another take with this variation and see how you feel with it"
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nice. update lang. patay na po si riffoff. nagpakamatay po siya kagabi.
seryoso na... i really am ashamed to be involved in this. ako ay hamak na 21 year old lamang na gusto magenjoy sa pamamagitan ng Music Technology and Pro Audio. Thanks to the people who preferred peace over popcorns.
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nice. update lang. patay na po si riffoff. nagpakamatay po siya kagabi.
seryoso na... i really am ashamed to be involved in this. ako ay hamak na 21 year old lamang na gusto magenjoy sa pamamagitan ng Music Technology and Pro Audio. Thanks to the people who preferred peace over popcorns.
Akala ko ba clone siya? I mean, ano tunay na handle niya dito? (Tama ba definition ko ng 'clone'?)
Louie, I asked you who he is pero you maintained his anonymity in this thread. Dahil kung ako ang involved, willing ako makipag-usap ng diretsahan na walang kaplastikan.
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clone siya. isang tao na may dalawang philmu account. ok ipi-pm kita. yung term na "kaplastikan" sobrang unnecessary. just so you know.
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Akala ko ba clone siya? I mean, ano tunay na handle niya dito? (Tama ba definition ko ng 'clone'?)
Louie, I asked you who he is pero you maintained his anonymity in this thread. Dahil kung ako ang involved, willing ako makipag-usap ng diretsahan na walang kaplastikan.
boss, di kita pinaplastic. ayaw ko lang madamay yung mga nanahimik. ni, hindi nga nila alam na may ganitong thread eh. pero wag ka magalala... iniisip ko parin kung sasabihin ko ba sayo kung sino. nag-iingat lang ako. si riffoff kaya ko sabihin sayo kung sino. pero yung source ng mga pinagsasasabi niya... mahirap.
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got it :)
thanks. si riffoff kasi, his band used to rehearse at btmbt. yun lang ang kinalaman ni riffoff sa studio na yun. thanks sa pagbura.
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If riffoff is a clone, I am mandated by our regulations to ban his account. Using a clone account to attack another forumer is an act of cowardice, something that I do not tolerate.
I wish some people would be man enough to confront persons they have a beef with, instead of hiding behind a veil of anonimity. A lot of this would have been avoided if proper communication and understanding would have been instigated among the parties concerned.
As of this post, riffoff is now history.
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If riffoff is a clone, I am mandated by our regulations to ban his account. Using a clone account to attack another forumer is an act of cowardice, something that I do not tolerate.
I wish some people would be man enough to confront persons they have a beef with, instead of hiding behind a veil of anonimity. A lot of this would have been avoided if proper communication and understanding would have been instigated among the parties concerned.
As of this post, riffoff is now history.
thanks sir Kit. I actually asked him to delete his clone. ewan ko kung nagawa na. sorry. sana hindi na ako magsorry ulit.
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Louie, you are always welcome in Philmusic and in the MTPA forums. Even though you mentioned otherwise, no one should take that against you.
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Louie, you are always welcome in Philmusic and in the MTPA forums. Even though you mentioned otherwise, no one should take that against you.
Thanks sir Kit.
p.s.
This is really awkward.
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excellent points there. Where I disagree is that it all boils down to communication. For me it all boils down to attitude. Professional attitude is (coming on time, coming prepared, being prepared, asking questions, coming up with answers and solutions). Even with subpar talent, professional attitude will yield a good result. Even with subpar equipment and facilities.
One thing you are absolutely correct about is the need for a producer, sadly that's been the most overlooked role in the current state of things.
This thread is turning out to be an introspective on the ins and outs of record production huh? And the wisdom of a lot of folks are also coming through. All good stuff, too. keep em coming.
ay tama "attitude", if you have a positive attitude, then communication follows thru well.
*producers (as well as engineers) has always been overlooked. that's why i like buying original CDs, coz you get the whole info on who worked with the band on an album. you get to appreciate the whole 9 yards, the real 9 yards.
what people don't know is that the band is just the upper half of the iceberg, sadly most bands don't know that too
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I think it's sardines.
EPIC [strawberry] WIN
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This thread is epic.
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Saan nakaburol si riffoff? Name and place.
Honestly, I am not convinced yet because we want proof.
To Louie, nagtext na sa akin yung gitarista/bokalista ng banda. Baka maiyak ka pag nalaman mo kung ano sinabi sa akin. But, it ain't a public message so I am keeping it to myself but I wish you would know.
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thanks sir Kit. I actually asked him to delete his clone. ewan ko kung nagawa na. sorry. sana hindi na ako magsorry ulit.
How can he delete eh he is 'dead' diba? :roll:
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How can he delete eh he is 'dead' diba? :roll:
i think Louie meant it figuratively. or at least i hope he did.
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i think Louie meant it figuratively. or at least i hope he did.
Errrr, his PM to me says otherwise, unless he is referring to another person 'figuratively' too. Nameless pero may iskul.
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Saan nakaburol si riffoff? Name and place.
Honestly, I am not convinced yet because we want proof.
To Louie, nagtext na sa akin yung gitarista/bokalista ng banda. Baka maiyak ka pag nalaman mo kung ano sinabi sa akin. But, it ain't a public message so I am keeping it to myself but I wish you would know.
hayhayhay..this riffoff guy is giving you quite the runaround. nothing says "sketchy character" more than not being able to stand up to the heat that they started in the first place. :lol: sucks to be the bokalista chick too because i am pretty sure she didn't intend to air her dirty laundry on a well known forum. oh well, hope she takes this whole fiasco as a good lesson in maturity and handling your business the adult way because the story just seems to get worse with every development of this whole issue. AND i plain ran out of popcorn and beer!
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Just for the record, there is no such thing as a perfect recording studio. If that were the case, then why do the biggest big name bands go from one studio to another if budget isn't an issue? Take Abbey Road in UK for instance. Reportedly, they are losing money now, which is why they also do mini concerts there nowadays. And they sell DVDs produced in Abbey Road. Imagine, a great studio with almost anything an artist would covet, LOSING MONEY?
The advent of recording at home is probably the biggest culprit in the losses of the major studios, especially those that invested just before the advent of digital recording through DAW and computers.
Now when an artists sets foot in a studio, big or small, will great mics and great equipment guarantee a great recording, given a certain budget? We can never tell. If the band shows up late or worse, doesn't show up, will they succeed? If an artist fails to establish rapport with the engineer, gaffer, and everyone, will they succeed?
I dunno if this hold true, but the best results in recording that I have experienced were with people who were focused on their work, and had talent. Take away the talent, a little trickery in the studio can nail decent results. Take away the focus, everything goes down.
I would bet that the people who whine about getting dismal results in recording in a low profile studio would also experience the same in a high end studio where everything they need is there. The attitude comes more into play than the tools.
First of all, nabuburat ako kay riffoff kasi wala talaga sa lugar yung kanyang pambabastos na ginagawa sa forum na to and the reason PhilMusic was created is to help us musicians/sound engineers/producers/listeners in sharing information and have a good rapport. Hindi ata tamang gawing avenue ang forum para manira ng tao.
I agree kay Kuya Dodjie kasi hindi naman pwedeng isisi lang sa engineer ang final mix eh. Kung tutuusin kasi, ang musikero ang gumagawa ng tunog. Hindi yung engineer kasi ang trabaho lang naman niya is linisin and ilapat sa kahit anong medium yung ginawa ng artist. Two way yan kasi maraming factors na pwedeng makaapekto sa recording like yung sofware, yung recording equipment ng studio, yung mga instrumento ng mga cliente, and syempre yung samahan ng cliente at tagasilbi. The quality of the equipment is only secondary to what really makes the recording process end up good because professionalism, skill, and good working attitude are the main keys.
For me, unfair naman siguro ang mga ill remarks nitong si riffoff kay Kuya Dodjie. I've worked with Kuya Dodjie once and pati rin mga iilan kong kaibigan at wala pa akong naririnig na reklamo galing sa kanila. Sige, given na entitled ang lahat sa kanilang sariling pananaw pero wag naman ganitong nagsisiraan tayo sa isang forum na may good aims.
I guess mas maigi kung tulungan nalang natin ang isa't isa kesa magsiraan at mag-imbistiga. Just bear in mind na hindi mo pwedeng iasa lahat ng elements ng recording sa isang engineer. May mga kilala rin kasi akong bandang malupit ang recording pero kalat pag live. STUDIO MAGIC yun! Marami naman kasing nagagawa ang studio eh, pero diba mas fulfilling kapag yun skills na ipinundar mo ng ilang taon ang ginamit mo sa recording at live? Puera sa mababawasan yung sakit ng ulo ng engineer, mas gaganda ang gawa.
Above all, UGALI pa rin talaga ang pinakamahalaga sa kahit anong trabaho. Kung may reklamo ka, sabihin mo bago matapos ang produkto kasi kasama yun sa binayad mo. You have all the right to complain and tweak inaccuracies basta't HINDI PAGKATAPOS MAILABAS ANG FINAL MIX. Maswerte nga at nagmabuting loob si Kuya Dodjie na bawasan ang singil kasi kung sa iba yan, malabong pumayag. Importante ring kaibiganin ang engineer kasi pag may good rapport na, lahat naman magiging maganda eh.
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Kuya Dodjie
FTW :D
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I'm a satisfied client of Dodjie's recording facility and I'm sure there are more. Dunno if that helps, but there it is.
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I wish I can post the band's songwriter/vocalist/guitarplayer's text message to me to show what really had transpired.
Just a clue: bakunabois = riffoff
Now I just have to look for someone who died 2 nights ago aka riffoff or bakunabois, if there really was one.
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sometimes... working in a project studio is much easier... big studios tend to have a veeery corporate atmosphere that you get dwarfed and consumed by it... and i've done sessions in those. work can be so bland there, not all the time though. usually it depends on who's the producer, or the engineer. most often than not, if i've worked with the engineer then all's good. thing with big studios and session work, you can't choose who you work with... you simply meet half way to be in tune.
with project studios you're able to loosen your collar... let go and just relax
that's how I see it anyway.
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FTW :D
Comedy naman to! Well, ganun tawag ko sa kanya eh. :)) He's really a good sound engineer and natuwa ako sa mga recordings niya. If I were to record again, sa kanya na ako magpapamix.
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First of all, nabuburat ako kay riffoff kasi wala talaga sa lugar yung kanyang pambabastos na ginagawa sa forum na to and the reason PhilMusic was created is to help us musicians/sound engineers/producers/listeners in sharing information and have a good rapport. Hindi ata tamang gawing avenue ang forum para manira ng tao.
For me, unfair naman siguro ang mga ill remarks nitong si riffoff kay Kuya Dodjie. I've worked with Kuya Dodjie once and pati rin mga iilan kong kaibigan at wala pa akong naririnig na reklamo galing sa kanila. Sige, given na entitled ang lahat sa kanilang sariling pananaw pero wag naman ganitong nagsisiraan tayo sa isang forum na may good aims.
I agree. Pati ako, may respeto kay dodjie. Kasi nababasa ko mga posts niya, which are suggestive na madami talaga siyang alam. Plus balita ko malupit siya maggitara. Thats why I am ashamed na may gumaganito sakanya na kaibigan ko. Dont worry... kausap ko si a.k.a. riffoff/bakunabois ngayon... kasi hindi naman ako ang gumawa ng gulo na to eh. kaya lang, sa liga ng basketball, pag nagkagulo, mga team captain kumakausap diba. parang ganon lang.
gusto ko na matapos to.
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I'm a satisfied client of Dodjie's recording facility and I'm sure there are more. Dunno if that helps, but there it is.
this should help. Kung na-damage man ang reputation ng studio ni dodjie. I was actually thinking about requesting our mod to lock this thread para hindi na kumalat ang negative effects sa kung sino man ang pwede tamaan... pero it would seem like im guilty of something, which im not. Gusto ko lang matapos to.. pero i would like to answer all your questions first. Naputulan ako ng internet connection dito sa bahay, sabi ko sa January ko na ipapakabit, napilitan ako magpakabit ulit dahil sa thread na to.
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hayhayhay..this riffoff guy is giving you quite the runaround. nothing says "sketchy character" more than not being able to stand up to the heat that they started in the first place. :lol: sucks to be the bokalista chick too because i am pretty sure she didn't intend to air her dirty laundry on a well known forum. oh well, hope she takes this whole fiasco as a good lesson in maturity and handling your business the adult way because the story just seems to get worse with every development of this whole issue. AND i plain ran out of popcorn and beer!
sir, theres no she. lalaki po yung bokalsta ng sardines na involved.
sana tama po yung pagkakaintindi ko sa reply. Im not sure kung alam nung babae yung mga nangyayari dito.
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sir, theres no she. lalaki po yung bokalsta ng sardines na involved.
sana tama po yung pagkakaintindi ko sa reply. Im not sure kung alam nung babae yung mga nangyayari dito.
ah, eitherway, i didn't take the time to look em up in more detail except that the material i heard from em had way too much whining for my liking - which might be cool for some folks. point is, they should just step up. if they thought and said something and that spread as a result of someone else yakking, they ought to be responsible for it and explain their view. i don't particularly like how it is ending up that this bakunabois also happens to be someone else...christ, whoever this person is took way, way too much time and put too much effort into this. why not just come out and get the story straight...since the person happens to be a guy, he ought to "man up" and stop being such a pansy.
the local pinoy music scene is a good and vibrant one so we certainly don't need this sort of shenanigans hampering good camaraderie.
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To Dodjie, let me try again.
9 years ago, i discovered Cakewalk. 5 years ago, my parents left, which made my house a favorite place for my friends to hang. They're mostly musicians, (guitarists, voalists, drummers, bassists and at least three are MTPA hobbyists - one them is riffoff/bakunabois) 3 years ago, I constructed a reharsal studio, 2 years ago, as I was lurking around Philmusic, I converted my rehearsal studio to a recording studio. In the process, my friends are free to practice their crafts in my place - the MTPA hobbyists enjoyed helping me out, they even agreed to stay in regulary to sit in front of the computer and take over my tasks when clients come. When they ask, how I learned the things I know, I always mention philmusic. Thats when they discovered this site.
weeks ago, riffoff/baukunabois asked "sino ba tong skunkyfunk?" I answered like "ah, may ari ng studio yan, siya nagrecord kela ______"
later, bands (not more than 4. sorry di ko maalala) that previously worked with dodjie came, all had something negative to say. Most of the time, riffoff/bakunabois was there to hear it. Consequently, he grew more interested in knowing who dodjie is. He researched a little about dodjie's projects, how it sounds like, what are his gears... talked to people who knew dodjie professionaly, above all, he was reading dodjie's posts here in philmusic.
In case this one's interesting : riffoff/bakunabois is immature, something he just confessed hours ago. He rants about almost everything. His parents, his siblings, his school, but claimed to have loved my studio so much that hed rather live here than in his own house. But then again, he loves to hate. It has became obnoxious to us, his friends, that we branded him Problem Child.
Unfortunately, he went too far by attacking someone that he didnt like, even though that someone was doing nothing to him.
hence, without my knowledge, this thread was born.
1.Basically. This is an artist, hater thing. Which is natural. The Beatles has its haters, MJ has his haters, Manny Paciao has his haters. (I actually believe that MP will get killed the moment he strolls the streets of Mexico), Plus I have read at least one person hating the big recording studios in this country, the riffoff/bakunabois style.
Why did I mention that? Because I wanted dodjie to understand.
2. Am I just saving my friend's ass? Yes and No.
YES:
Hours ago, through text, I was forcing riffoff/bakunabois to reveal himself, because im getting tired of getting burned by someone else's flame. But then he replied "sa tingin mo, hahanapin ako nun personally?" Then I did not know what to say. Im sorry dodjie if I cant say his name. May banda siya, isang araw baka magkatagpo kayo sa isang bar. As I said in my previous posts, i dont know dodjie professionaly, let alone personally. I do not know his tendencies. And that became dimmer when I saw how he reacted to this post.
basta, siya si riffoff, bakunabois, tambay dito, suma-sub saakin minsan. At sa tingin ko, hindi mo na kailangan malaman para sa ikatitigil ng pagkalat ng gulong ito. Basta ang importante... tumigil na siya at nangakong hindi na ito gagawin ulit. kilala siya ni sardines. At balita ko nabanggit na sayo ni sardines ang tungkol sakanya. nagusap na din kami. kaya nga di ko maisip kung bakit ako maiiyak sa mga sinabi niya sayo.
NO:
I just want to end this now. Im getting a feeling that dodjie is suspecting me of being, riffoff/bakunabois' clone. Hindi po ako ganoon klaseng tao. I can say whatever I want to say. You can refer to my old and recent posts. I actually said in this thread na dati pa ako nayayabangan kay dodjie, hindi ko lang siya inaatake kasi wala naman siyang ginagawa saakin. Then dodjie dared me to post my works... I would do that, if something really calls for it. Dodjie, gaya ng sinabi ko sayo... Where my talent stands, is not an issue. Hindi po ako lalaban sayo. Hindi ako lalaban sa kahit sino kasi wala namang kumpitensya. Nageenjoy lang ako sa pagiging musikero.
Summary:
1.Sorry kung nabuhay ang thread na ito. Nagkulang ako sa briefing sa isang kaibigan ko.
2.Sorry kung hindi ko kayang sabihin kung sino si riffoff/bakunabois. Natatakot po siya. At nararamdaman kong mas malaking gulo kapag sinabi ko. Madalas din po kasi siyang lumalabas at nagpupunta sa mga bars. Ilang beses ko na pinilit, halos awayin ko na. Pero ang sabi niya, magimbento nalang daw ako ng ibang pangalan. Mas lalong hindi ko gagawin yun. To those who wants to see him pay the price, trust me, his own knowledge that he caused all these is already torturing him.
At sa tingin ko kasi, hindi na importante. Para saakin, importante na hindi na niya gagawin ulit yun. Nagpromise na siya.
3.Hindi po ako si riffoff/bakunabois
4.Dodjie, pasensya ka na. Hindi kita pinaplastik. Medyo hindi ko lang nagustuhan kung pano ka magreact kaya medyo kupal ako sumagot sayo. Pero, seryoso ako, humihingi ako ng pasensya.
5.Sana matapos na to.
6.Dodjie, pasensya ka na.
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Ang hirap kasi, yung duwag na riffoff/bakunabois, ang dami-daming pinagsasasabi, hindi naman niya kayang pangatawanan. He says every garbage that he thinks, under the safety of his anonymity. Pinoprotektahan? Bull. The best protection one can get is one is from good behavior, or at least the proper one. Kung makalait siya sa kapwa niya, akala mo, napakagaling niya. Ipagpalagay na natin na pangit talaga yung mix, eh bakit yung reaksiyon niya parang sinunog yung bahay niya, o ginahasa ang ate niya? Mahilig siya manlait? Dun na lang sa guitar forums. Marami siyang katulad doon. He'll feel right at home there.
At dahil, hindi niya kayang humingi ng paumanhin dun sa nasagasaan niya, nananatili siyang DUWAG.
Eh siya itong nagtatago sa likod ng hindi totoong pangalan eh.
WHO'S THE POSER NOW?
Come to think of it, I'm not as OT as I had thought. We're talking about posers anyway. Ewan ko nga lang kung engineer siya, kahit na nagpapanggap lang.
@LouieAzcona - tinutulungan mo siya na maintindihan siya ng iba. Eh kung baligtarin natin? Eh kung yung tinitira niya ang may sayad sa utak? At nagpakamatay? Bibigyan niya kaya ng panahon para maunawaan yung tao? Nagtatapang-tapangan siya pero ang totoo, wala na siya iduduwag pa. Todo na ito. It's good that knowing he did somebody wrong is torturing him. May kunsensiya pala siya. Sana lang ginamit niya bago siya nagkalat ng lagim dito. Sana pati utak niya ginamit niya. That is, assuming he has one. Mabuti, ang importante lang sa iyo yung hindi na siya uulit. I beg to differ. Napakadaling sabihin niyan eh. Ang dali-dali na ngang sabihin, hindi niya pa masabi ng harapan. Yung tao sa tao. Kilala niya yung tinitira niya, tapos bibirahin niya kasi alam niyang hindi siya kilala nung tao.
TRUE CHARACTER SHOWS WHEN NOBODY'S LOOKING. Malas lang niya, kasi, alam niya yung katarataduhang ginawa niya. We can all choose not to deal with him. And that's a luxury he doesn't have. He ALWAYS has to deal with his own self.
Walang makikiramay sa kanya dito. Figuratively, that is.
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Ang hirap kasi, yung duwag na riffoff/bakunabois, ang dami-daming pinagsasasabi, hindi naman niya kayang pangatawanan. He says every garbage that he thinks, under the safety of his anonymity. Pinoprotektahan? Bull. The best protection one can get is one is from good behavior, or at least the proper one. Kung makalait siya sa kapwa niya, akala mo, napakagaling niya. Ipagpalagay na natin na pangit talaga yung mix, eh bakit yung reaksiyon niya parang sinunog yung bahay niya, o ginahasa ang ate niya? Mahilig siya manlait? Dun na lang sa guitar forums. Marami siyang katulad doon. He'll feel right at home there.
At dahil, hindi niya kayang humingi ng paumanhin dun sa nasagasaan niya, nananatili siyang DUWAG.
Eh siya itong nagtatago sa likod ng hindi totoong pangalan eh.
WHO'S THE POSER NOW?
Come to think of it, I'm not as OT as I had thought. We're talking about posers anyway. Ewan ko nga lang kung engineer siya, kahit na nagpapanggap lang.
@LouieAzcona - tinutulungan mo siya na maintindihan siya ng iba. Eh kung baligtarin natin? Eh kung yung tinitira niya ang may sayad sa utak? At nagpakamatay? Bibigyan niya kaya ng panahon para maunawaan yung tao? Nagtatapang-tapangan siya pero ang totoo, wala na siya iduduwag pa. Todo na ito. It's good that knowing he did somebody wrong is torturing him. May kunsensiya pala siya. Sana lang ginamit niya bago siya nagkalat ng lagim dito. Sana pati utak niya ginamit niya. That is, assuming he has one. Mabuti, ang importante lang sa iyo yung hindi na siya uulit. I beg to differ. Napakadaling sabihin niyan eh. Ang dali-dali na ngang sabihin, hindi niya pa masabi ng harapan. Yung tao sa tao. Kilala niya yung tinitira niya, tapos bibirahin niya kasi alam niyang hindi siya kilala nung tao.
TRUE CHARACTER SHOWS WHEN NOBODY'S LOOKING. Malas lang niya, kasi, alam niya yung katarataduhang ginawa niya. We can all choose not to deal with him. And that's a luxury he doesn't have. He ALWAYS has to deal with his own self.
Walang makikiramay sa kanya dito. Figuratively, that is.
makakaabot po ito sir. pasensya na po kayo
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@LouieAzcona - I hope you understand that I'm not attacking you. Your friend invited all the negative reaction he got. In this forum, no ill intention is assumed. Nandito tayo para magtulungan. Wala naman akong alam na bumibira sa kanya bago niya ginawa yung ginawa niya. Tapos, hihingi lang siya ng dispensa, idadaan niya pa sa ibang tao, eh hindi naman niya kinailangan ang ibang tao para sabihin yung sinabi niya. Yun nga lang, hindi pa rin siya nagpakilala. He remains the unapologetic coward that people think he is. He's too arrogant to ask for forgiveness from people he wronged, and yet he has no trouble throwing accusations at people who don't really ask for them. His behavior (and true character) is so disgusting that even he realized he needed hide under a fake name, just to be able to behave as his true self.
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@LouieAzcona - I hope you understand that I'm not attacking you. Your friend invited all the negative reaction he got. In this forum, no ill intention is assumed. Nandito tayo para magtulungan. Wala naman akong alam na bumibira sa kanya bago niya ginawa yung ginawa niya. Tapos, hihingi lang siya ng dispensa, idadaan niya pa sa ibang tao, eh hindi naman niya kinailangan ang ibang tao para sabihin yung sinabi niya. Yun nga lang, hindi pa rin siya nagpakilala. He remains the unapologetic coward that people think he is. He's too arrogant to ask for forgiveness from people he wronged, and yet he has no trouble throwing accusations at people who don't really ask for them. His behavior (and true character) is so disgusting that even he realized he needed hide under a fake name, just to be able to behave as his true self.
i perfectly understand sir. in fact, pati kami, hindi okay ngayon. pinipilit ko na siya magreveal, pero sinabi niya magbigay nalang daw ako ng fake na pangalan. Mukhang mas mahihirapan ako kung ganoon. Gusto ko na siya ilaglag, pero I just cant do it. I also understand kung bakit ganyan din po ang reply niyo, kasi if i were you, ganyan din po mararamdaman ko. Wala po dapat ako dito... kaya lang, gusto ko i clear na walang propaganda. Althought its still hard to read, kasi friend ko yung subject. Pero, he deserves it.
Basta, i think its safe to say that this thread can only get better. I hope.
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Basta, i think its safe to say that this thread can only get better. I hope.
oh, it will. the local music scene is far bigger and better than whoever this riffoff guy is and the character of the people that make local music happen is of no comparison to him. he may have bad things to think and say but, hey, at least the folks that put their heart and soul into their studios and music are actually doing something to improve the scene every day - something that proactive is a testament to dedication that this riffoff guy can never touch.
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I agree. Pati ako, may respeto kay dodjie. Kasi nababasa ko mga posts niya, which are suggestive na madami talaga siyang alam. Plus balita ko malupit siya maggitara. Thats why I am ashamed na may gumaganito sakanya na kaibigan ko. Dont worry... kausap ko si a.k.a. riffoff/bakunabois ngayon... kasi hindi naman ako ang gumawa ng gulo na to eh. kaya lang, sa liga ng basketball, pag nagkagulo, mga team captain kumakausap diba. parang ganon lang.
gusto ko na matapos to.
Pare, malupit talaga siya maggitara. He tried the 7 string of my friend and ang lupit talaga ni Sir Dodjie. I think Sir Dodjie deserves to be respected by his clients and the people who will meet him in time. Tingin ko dapat pang magpasalamat kaibigan mo kay Sir Dodjie kasi kung sa iba yan, baka mas mabanas kaibigan mo. I'm not saying Dodjie is the best engineer but I am impressed by his skills and his taste. He's also a very generous person kasi nagpakape pa siya sa amin during our recording session.
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Louie, I never said pinaplastik mo ko. Ang sabi ko, kakausapin ko ang kahit sino nang walang kaplastikan. Magkaiba yun.
And about respect, we cannot expect others to respect us if we don't practice it in the first place. So kung nayayabangan/nakukupalan ka sa mga response ko, hindi mo dapat ipagtaka yun. As I said, I take no BS when it comes to my work. The mere fact that your riffoff/bakunabois "friend" is hiding is enough reason for me to doubt.
Dito sa aking munting project studio, may WiFi din. So halimbawang may ogag akong sipsip na kaibigan na titira ng ibang studio sa pamamagitan ng wifi connection ko, malamang ang first na gagawin ko eh linawin na hindi ako ang naninira sa ibang studio. Pero dapat ipakilala ko kung sino ang gumawa. Narinig mo na ba yung kasabihan na "Someone has to got jail for the crime..."? Whether fall guy o yung culprit, someone has to go to jail. Kung sa akin nangyari yan, ilalaglag ko yan kahit sumpain pa ako. A true friend uses common sense and thinks how his actions can affect his friends.
Unang-una, sabi mo nagpakamatay siya. Eh paano mo nakausap? Gusto mong ma-interpret ko na "figurative" yung pagpapakamatay niya? :? Non-sense.
Now granting riffoff is a person who is not Louie Azcona, then like what I said, I am willing to talk to the person. No BS. Sa safe na lugar. We're all adults here. Alam mo bang dati napagkamalan na ako si oasgomez/Firemodel55? Pero nagkaroon din ako ng sariling sungay habang na-ban siya.
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Unang-una, sabi mo nagpakamatay siya. Eh paano mo nakausap? Gusto mong ma-interpret ko na "figurative" yung pagpapakamatay niya? :? Non-sense.
hay.
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Hoo...Magsitigil na nga kayo.
Dodj, your defensiveness is understandable, but IMHO you're already over-reacting. Ganito. Tutal, you know Louie and if you're really bent on "getting someone to jail", go get a court order compelling Louie to divulge the identity of his friend.
Then file the appropriate charges.
If you're not willing to take this to its full conclusion, I suggest you just let it go. There will still be guys who like you, you can't win 'em all.
Yan. Galing ko mag-advise ano ?
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Hoo...Magsitigil na nga kayo.
Dodj, your defensiveness is understandable, but IMHO you're already over-reacting. Ganito. Tutal, you know Louie and if you're really bent on "getting someone to jail", go get a court order compelling Louie to divulge the identity of his friend.
Then file the appropriate charges.
If you're not willing to take this to its full conclusion, I suggest you just let it go. There will still be guys who like you, you can't win 'em all.
Yan. Galing ko mag-advise ano ?
BAMF, I was saying "go to jail" in a figurativbe way. I meant, someone's identity has to be revealed. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :D
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BAMF, I was saying "go to jail" in a figurativbe way. I meant, someone's identity has to be revealed. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :D
It applies whether literal or figurative. O, so even if you did find out who it was. What then ? See. If you don't intend to pursue it to any of its logical conclusions, then just let it go.
Siguro ipapa-kulam mo ano ? Hehehehe.
Magsitigil ka na nga. Punta na lang ako jan, magsi-inum na lang tayo. Yang unnecessary stress, la yan.
Saka dodj, pwede, don't get into a pissing match with an uncircumsized person (not you Louie ha). You have nothing to prove to people like those.
Boskit vote ko lock na 'to. Let's clean up the negative energies on this forum.
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Ok, I was so eager to post last night after work, but I didn't want to ruin my time for my family.
Before anything else, let us be clear about a few things.
First, THE LIES:
sir, theres no she. lalaki po yung bokalsta ng sardines na involved.
sana tama po yung pagkakaintindi ko sa reply. Im not sure kung alam nung babae yung mga nangyayari dito.
This is wrong info. Abyss was correct, dead on with his supposition that the sardine band has a girl vocalist. I dunno why they have to deny that, maybe to distort the identity of the band, being that it is a 'blind item'? :? Sorry but this I cannot understand.
nice. update lang. patay na po si riffoff. nagpakamatay po siya kagabi.
This is ridiculous. What was the point in making this testimony? At least now we've proven he ain't dead.
Finally, riffoff/bakunabois decided to text me and reveal his identity. And I was right from the very beginning. Riffoff, if I can only cut your bangs in front of your mom and dad to put you into shame I'd do so...
At least now, I'm convinced Louie is not riffoff. But the sad part is, riffoff is largely affiliated to Louie's studio. And sad to say, if you represent a business entity (big or small) your actions and words will reflect on your business affiliations. Buti sana kung mere tambay ka lang. Eh hindi eh. You are carrying the flag of your business, even if you are just an employee, or worse, if you are a partner. So it was enough reason for me to doubt that riffoff's post was a direct attack on me/my job/my small studio facility (designed for the indie market) to uplift their own business. Dirty tactics if you ask me.
Regarding the sardine band, here is an excerpt of the songwriter's text message to me:
"...naging mabait ka professional at patient sa amin, di kami nasiyahan sa outcome pero alam ko na di mo kasalanan yun... Kaibigan ko si Lui sinabi ko sa kanya na di ako masaya, natural lang naman siguro na magkwento ka sa katropa diba? kaso malamang nasabi din niya sa iba kaya ayun. Atchaka obvious na <M________L> yun. Siniraan ka na nga niya pinahamak pa kami lalo na ako. So I'm sorry dodjie..."
Dahil sa isang hamak na Amplitube thread hahantong sa ganito? hmmm. Love to hate, love to whine. More to come...
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Ang mahal pala ng Jack Daniels sa Duty Free. Bakit pa sa Puregold-Subic parang 700 isang bote lang bili ko, sa Duty free lumalabas mahigit isang libo.
Pero para sa yo, dadalhin ko to jan, provide ko na intoxicating liquid. Ikaw na lang taya' sa pulutan. Gusto ko Norwegian Salmon or pwede din, MACKEREL.
:-D
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Ang mahal pala ng Jack Daniels sa Duty Free. Bakit pa sa Puregold-Subic parang 700 isang bote lang bili ko, sa Duty free lumalabas mahigit isang libo.
Pero para sa yo, dadalhin ko to jan, provide ko na intoxicating liquid. Ikaw na lang taya' sa pulutan. Gusto ko Norwegian Salmon or pwede din, MACKEREL.
:-D
PSsst. Huy.... Wala namang ganyanan. Sisig Hooray na may extra labuyo solb na ako.
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PSsst. Huy.... Wala namang ganyanan. Sisig Hooray na may extra labuyo solb na ako.
Ummm naglaway na naman ako. Malapit ka lang sa Aysee sa Ultra di ba ? MMmmpphh sarap ng sisig saka papaitan duon ! Dun kaya tayo mag MTPA EB ? Hehehehe.
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I'm just waiting for someone to second the motion, Jobet.
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Ummm naglaway na naman ako. Malapit ka lang sa Aysee sa Ultra di ba ? MMmmpphh sarap ng sisig saka papaitan duon ! Dun kaya tayo mag MTPA EB ? Hehehehe.
Actually masarap sa Aysee pero, Sisig Hooray convert na ako. Wahahaha. Astig mag EB sana sumama si Louie (as in seriously walang kaplastikan). Mukhang nalagay din ako sa ganitong posisyon noon nung may away sa amps vs. PODs. :D
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I'm just waiting for someone to second the motion, Jobet.
Sir Kit, since all of the info needed had been provided, I deem this thread to be 'lockable'. But then, what does forum policy say on clones and clone owners? who gets banned? The clones lang or even the true account of the clone?
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Sir Kit, since all of the info needed had been provided, I deem this thread to be 'lockable'. But then, what does forum policy say on clones and clone owners? who gets banned? The clones lang or even the true account of the clone?
Normally, we ban the clones and retain only the primary account. Now if even the primary account is proving to be an a$$, then he gets banned to kingdom come. Your TS protagonist has already been banned lest he make a more complete fool of himself.
I'll give this thread a couple of hours for people to say what they have to say, then it's lock time. How's that?
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Normally, we ban the clones and retain only the primary account. Now if even the primary account is proving to be an a$$, then he gets banned to kingdom come. Your TS protagonist has already been banned lest he make a more complete fool of himself.
I'll give this thread a couple of hours for people to say what they have to say, then it's lock time. How's that?
Sir Kit, puwede after the Pacquiao fight na lang i-lock to? Wahehehehe.
Your call sir. ;)
Salamat sa lahat ng umunawa, lalo na sa harsh words ko. Louie, pasensya ka na rin at nadrag ang pangalan mo at ang studio mo, pati na rin sa studio nina Kenneth and Mark of Beneath the Mango Tree Studio (members of Jejunai.) They also were a client of mine and I know for one that they are great people.
May this serve as a lesson to all.
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parang mas masayang pag usapan yung inuman/get together! :-D
party na 'to!
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"I'll give this thread a couple of hours for people to say what they have to say, then it's lock time. How's that? "
Please lock so i don't have to look at the short legs of Skunk's picture anymore :-D :-D :-D
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parang mas masayang pag usapan yung inuman/get together! :-D
party na 'to!
Sige sige ! Somewhere na mura lang like Aysee. Okay na din dun sa 2nd floor tayo.
"I'll give this thread a couple of hours for people to say what they have to say, then it's lock time. How's that? "
Please lock so i don't have to look at the short legs of Skunk's picture anymore :-D :-D :-D
Hoo...baka you're looking at the short legs and your eyes across the...oh never mind hahahaha.
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Sige sige ! Somewhere na mura lang like Aysee. Okay na din dun sa 2nd floor tayo.
Hoo...baka you're looking at the short legs and your eyes across the...oh never mind hahahaha.
malapit lang ako don, but ive never been there. although ive heard of the place nga coz of the sisig. like skunk, sisig hooray fans ang pamilya ko, especially that it's right across the street from us. lol. sige game, who wants to have an mtpa eb at aysees?
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I'm not short legged I just have long arms. :D
Akala ko dati magiging basketball player ako but God gave me short legs. At least what matters is in between. :D
Aysee's + Coke + beer = todohan na ito.
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Game ! Dali habang di ko pa binu-book ang studio and di pa ko nagpipila ng work. This week na tutal taga-duon lang naman kayo hehehe.
Aysee kasi may papaitan. Pamatay yun ansarap. Bukas na lang pagbayaran ang cholesterol and uric acid hehehe.
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O, kelan tayo kitakits? :-)
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O, kelan tayo kitakits? :-)
Umuwi ka muna para sama ka :-D.
O kaya dun tayo sa studio mo isabay na natin sa demo ng Eleven Rack ? Good idea yun a. Wala nga lang aysee. Arrrghhh choices choices....
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Siyempre mas importante yung Aysee. Hehe. :-) Nandiyan na ako sa isang bukas.
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Yayain natin si Louie. Ok lang? No frills.
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Everybody's welcome. The more, the many-er! :-)
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I'll give this thread a couple of hours for people to say what they have to say, then it's lock time. How's that?
On second thought...
Go on, people!
Let the love flow. :-D
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On second thought...
Go on, people!
Let the love flow. :-D
I thought Sir Kit you meant "LET THE BEER FLOW". hehehehe
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Ok, I was so eager to post last night after work, but I didn't want to ruin my time for my family.
Before anything else, let us be clear about a few things.
First, THE LIES:
This is wrong info. Abyss was correct, dead on with his supposition that the sardine band has a girl vocalist. I dunno why they have to deny that, maybe to distort the identity of the band, being that it is a 'blind item'? :? Sorry but this I cannot understand.
im not lying. kasi ang pinaguusapan yung member ng sardine band na involved. tama girl yung lead vocalist ng band na yun. pero hindi siya yung pinaguusapan. guy yung vocalist/guitarist/song writer na involved dito diba? yun yung sinasabi ko. kung malabo yung pagkakasabi ko, hindi yun lie.
dodjie, tama na. Kapag wala ka parin mahanap na butas... baka wala talaga. parang binabarena mo pa ako eh. pero di ako galit ah.
by the way... kulang yung quote ni dodjie kay sardine guy... hindi ako ang nanira. si riffoff... umamin na sayo diba?
tapusin na to.
ayaw ko na nga sana magreply kaso lie daw ang testimony ko. tama na sir. natatawa na kami dito eh. :mrgreen:
tama. alak nalang pagusapan ninyo. out na ako. konti lang alam ko diyan. dalawang bote ng gilbeys premium blend na may green tea extract, wala na. zombie na ako. 3 shotglass ng baccardi 151, emily rose na. 4 shotglass... nanghahalik na ako ng lalaki. gusto mo parin ako isama? haha!
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Dodgie..don't feel bad..hindi ka ang kauna unahang tinawag ng POSER... well to be exact be called a HOAX.. 8-) a better term should be HOAXTER :lol:
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Dodgie..don't feel bad..hindi ka ang kauna unahang tinawag ng POSER... well to be exact be called a HOAX.. 8-) a better term should be HOAXTER :lol:
haha! oonga pala ano! saksi ako diyan sir Baldo! haha!
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And I only see these kinds of threads at Guitar Central.
Still. It's Epic. :-D
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Dodgie..don't feel bad..hindi ka ang kauna unahang tinawag ng POSER... well to be exact be called a HOAX.. 8-) a better term should be HOAXTER :lol:
Hoax? :wink: :|
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im not lying. kasi ang pinaguusapan yung member ng sardine band na involved. tama girl yung lead vocalist ng band na yun. pero hindi siya yung pinaguusapan. guy yung vocalist/guitarist/song writer na involved dito diba? yun yung sinasabi ko. kung malabo yung pagkakasabi ko, hindi yun lie.
dodjie, tama na. Kapag wala ka parin mahanap na butas... baka wala talaga. parang binabarena mo pa ako eh. pero di ako galit ah.
by the way... kulang yung quote ni dodjie kay sardine guy... hindi ako ang nanira. si riffoff... umamin na sayo diba?
tapusin na to.
ayaw ko na nga sana magreply kaso lie daw ang testimony ko. tama na sir. natatawa na kami dito eh. :mrgreen:
tama. alak nalang pagusapan ninyo. out na ako. konti lang alam ko diyan. dalawang bote ng gilbeys premium blend na may green tea extract, wala na. zombie na ako. 3 shotglass ng baccardi 151, emily rose na. 4 shotglass... nanghahalik na ako ng lalaki. gusto mo parin ako isama? haha!
Dude umamin na yung pakner mo sa text. Pero iba yung text ni Sardine vox. Pero mukhang may sense nga na hindi ikaw ang may pakana nito dahil lumabas sa aking devil's advocating na wala kang dahilan para manira. Ganun lang talaga ako kumalkal ng mga facts so pagpasensyahan mo na.
Pero paano yan, one less friend na kayo ni Sardine bokalista?
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Mas epic kung may peehcures.
Turi, there goes 30 mins of my life.. :-D
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Mas epic kung may peehcures.
Turi, there goes 30 mins of my life.. :-D
AHAHAH same here :lol:
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Tsk tsk. This is sad.
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Pero paano yan, one less friend na kayo ni Sardine bokalista?
does this mean nasira ba ang friendship namin? di ako sure kung tama pagkakaintindi ko.
kung ganon nga ang tanong, not at all. naging reason pa nga ito para magusap kami ulit. tagal na namin di naguusap. besides, inunahan na ako ni riffoff,bakunabois na kausapin si sardine bokalista/gitarista/songwriter. nagexplain siya.
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Mas epic kung may peehcures.
Turi, there goes 30 mins of my life.. :-D
lol. pwnt.
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sir dodjie... mukang malabong makasama ako sa inuman... imagine mo nalang na lumalabas sa monitor mo kamay ko... paki shake naman.
ayaw ko sana magpaka-hero sa kaibigan ko pero siya mismo hindi niya kayang ayusin to. wala nang ibang gagawa. hindi kita inaway, gusto ko lang maliwanagan ka.
walang halong kapal ng mukha - peace!
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tama. alak nalang pagusapan ninyo. out na ako. konti lang alam ko diyan. dalawang bote ng gilbeys premium blend na may green tea extract, wala na. zombie na ako. 3 shotglass ng baccardi 151, emily rose na. 4 shotglass... nanghahalik na ako ng lalaki. gusto mo parin ako isama? haha!
Don't worry, we kiss back hahaha. So what do you do on your 5th shot ? Whatever it is, okay lang, basta, I'm the papa hahahaha.
Naku alang hard sa aysee. Beer lang dun saka pamatay na guilt-laden pulutan. Join na, bury the frikkin hatchet, let those who have problems rot in their misery.
Ako, I just want some company and a good excuse to drink at Aysee. Last time I was there, I was by myself Emo na Emo talaga ahahaha.
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Epic thread indeed...
after reading this thread from start to the latest post above, that is the best word to describe it.
and there is no better ending to this than a drinking session. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Don't worry, we kiss back hahaha. So what do you do on your 5th shot ? Whatever it is, okay lang, basta, I'm the papa hahahaha.
Naku alang hard sa aysee. Beer lang dun saka pamatay na guilt-laden pulutan. Join na, bury the frikkin hatchet, let those who have problems rot in their misery.
Ako, I just want some company and a good excuse to drink at Aysee. Last time I was there, I was by myself Emo na Emo talaga ahahaha.
Teka... Intriguing yang Aysee. Saan ba yan at makapag-EMO rin? :-D Sorry OT.
Back to topic. There goes 32 minutes of my life. :-D
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Back to topic. There goes 32 minutes of my life. :-D
I know, I know... we pale in comparison to the GC forums.
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Don't worry, we kiss back hahaha. So what do you do on your 5th shot ? Whatever it is, okay lang, basta, I'm the papa hahahaha.
Naku alang hard sa aysee. Beer lang dun saka pamatay na guilt-laden pulutan. Join na, bury the frikkin hatchet, let those who have problems rot in their misery.
Ako, I just want some company and a good excuse to drink at Aysee. Last time I was there, I was by myself Emo na Emo talaga ahahaha.
pwede pala yon! sige sabihin nyo lang kung kelan nyo gusto magpaka emo ulit ha, sabayan ko kayo :-D
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I know, I know... we pale in comparison to the GC forums.
well its because of two things: we play nicer and Bossing Kit runs a tight ship 'round here so there be no messin' wit bad vibes.
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Hey KitC, tell the guys there I'll be ready for my sinigang on Thursday. :-)
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well its because of two things: we play nicer and Bossing Kit runs a tight ship 'round here so there be no messin' wit bad vibes.
in my opinion, compared to GC, i sense people here can deliver points and reasons much straight and clearer than GC people does.
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in my opinion, compared to GC, i sense people here can deliver points and reasons much straight and clearer than GC people does.
You know the problem at GC kasi is, the experience levels vary greatly. You have super noobs to extremely experienced and well-endowed GAS gods. And at GC, people can get very very opinionated.
Here, it is quite different. The posters here (and posers like me) have different experience levels too, but to some degree, the people here have experienced quite a good number of musical situations where creative and technical applications come to play. We do argue a lot here, especially that we have different fields of experience (errrr.... PODs vs. amps, sampled drums vs. real miked drums, etc.) but what we want to promote is awareness that there are a myriad of methods to approach record production.
Sa GC, kahit pangit ang tunog, basta 2000bpm alt picking strokes ginawa, may karapatang mang-diss.
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I thought Sir Kit you meant "LET THE BEER FLOW". hehehehe
" BEER ".... not SAN MIG LITE...
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Hey KitC, tell the guys there I'll be ready for my sinigang on Thursday. :-)
call YELLOW CAB now hehehehehe. baka di mo na naman mahintay!!!
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You know the problem at GC kasi is, the experience levels vary greatly. You have super noobs to extremely experienced and well-endowed GAS gods. And at GC, people can get very very opinionated.
Ahhh Well endowed GAS. I could be one of those. Gonad Atrophy Syndrome.
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Jobet nde na well endowed yun kung me Atrophy hahahaha :-D
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Jobet nde na well endowed yun kung me Atrophy hahahaha :-D
I actually needed a reduction to cope with the complaints and costly reconstructive hospital bills that I had to shoulder (being the gentleman of course). Buti na lang it comes with age.
Ahahahahaha !
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at ah... sana walang mapikon. sa tingin ko kasi totoo naman eh... GENERALLY, mas mataas IQ sa music ng mga tao dito. compared to GC that is. remember.... uhm ano ba pangalan non? sa GC? yung magpapakita daw ng nipples? kaaway din ni skunk. yung shred ba yun? grabe yun. nakakasabaw.
so si fire someting 55, clone yun? andami niyang alam sa kahoy ah.
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GAS--> Gonad Augmentation Syndrome
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at ah... sana walang mapikon. sa tingin ko kasi totoo naman eh... GENERALLY, mas mataas IQ sa music ng mga tao dito. compared to GC that is. remember.... uhm ano ba pangalan non? sa GC? yung magpapakita daw ng nipples? kaaway din ni skunk. yung shred ba yun? grabe yun. nakakasabaw.
so si fire someting 55, clone yun? andami niyang alam sa kahoy ah.
San yun papakita ng nipples ? Okay yun ah !
Nyways, ano lang yan. Kanya-kanyang trip. Kumbaga, within reason and without stepping on the rights of others of course, the best government is no government. :-D
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Nipols? Pakita nya during EB hehehehehe...
KAILAN EB? This week na!
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Nipols? Pakita nya during EB hehehehehe...
KAILAN EB? This week na!
Hoba ! Thursday pagdating ni Marvin dere-derecho na sa Aysee ! Hehehe. Pero mukhang Friday ang feasible.
Ano ne mga sound reinforcement and recording engineers ? Aysee na ! Isang long table. Ngalang, punong-puno yun pag Friday.
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Hoba ! Thursday pagdating ni Marvin dere-derecho na sa Aysee ! Hehehe. Pero mukhang Friday ang feasible.
Ano ne mga sound reinforcement and recording engineers ? Aysee na ! Isang long table. Ngalang, punong-puno yun pag Friday.
Thursday na, pagkagaling ko OMB derecho na ako dun....
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wala di nagpakita!!! basta pinaguusapan nipples! hahaha! naalala ko na! shredboi! p*cha may katunog username ah! sakit sa ulo din! haha!
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at ah... sana walang mapikon. sa tingin ko kasi totoo naman eh... GENERALLY, mas mataas IQ sa music ng mga tao dito. compared to GC that is. remember.... uhm ano ba pangalan non? sa GC? yung magpapakita daw ng nipples? kaaway din ni skunk. yung shred ba yun? grabe yun. nakakasabaw.
so si fire someting 55, clone yun? andami niyang alam sa kahoy ah.
Di ko actually nakaaway si shredboi. Nauna na si aya Yuson na bumasag sa kanya. Pero una niya kasing hinamon yung playing skill ko dahil sinabihan ko lang siya na di malinaw mga arpeggios niya.
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You know the problem at GC kasi is, the experience levels vary greatly. You have super noobs to extremely experienced and well-endowed GAS gods. And at GC, people can get very very opinionated.
Here, it is quite different. The posters here (and posers like me) have different experience levels too, but to some degree, the people here have experienced quite a good number of musical situations where creative and technical applications come to play. We do argue a lot here, especially that we have different fields of experience (errrr.... PODs vs. amps, sampled drums vs. real miked drums, etc.) but what we want to promote is awareness that there are a myriad of methods to approach record production.
Sa GC, kahit pangit ang tunog, basta 2000bpm alt picking strokes ginawa, may karapatang mang-diss.
Tol, buti pa sa BP hindi nag-aaway. :)) Ang saya, bassists have their own small world of fun. :>
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Tol, buti pa sa BP hindi nag-aaway. :)) Ang saya, bassists have their own small world of fun. :>
parang sa pinoydrums.. :-D
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Ahhh Well endowed GAS. I could be one of those. Gonad Atrophy Syndrome.
hoy hoy hoy...reverse yan. you don't want na "da package" ay mag atrophy because it means na liliit si yunor. dapat, baliktad kase yun ang adage eh na "bigger is better." as such, you might want to say gonad megaly syndrome (GMS) pero hindi kasya sa acronym so sayang.
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hoy hoy hoy...reverse yan. you don't "da package" na mag atrophy because it means na liliit si yunor. dapat, baliktad kase yun ang adage eh na "bigger is better." as such, you might want to say gonad megaly syndrome (GMS) pero hindi kasya sa acronym so sayang.
Honga bunot ako sa thesaurus.com ayun na... Gonad Augmentation Syndrome hehehe.
Anoba yan kung saan saan na tayo napunta ..poser, EB, GAS hehehe.
Inuman na ! Thursday, game ! baka mga 8-9pm nga lang ako makarating pilitin ko earlier nag-sked ng jamming ang banda e.
Kahit isa lang dumating dun, pupunta ako. Maka-inum lang at maka-pulutan ng papaitan hehehe. Ay Allen panalo mahilig ka din siguro sa papaitan (pangasinan kami e, di pa ilokano ang salita hehehe). Buti andito ka sa Manila. Ayus !
Marveeen !!! Derecho ka na mula airport papunta Aysee hehehe. Malapit lang naman yun sa GH kiss mo muna wifey tapos punta ka na hehehe.
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Di ko actually nakaaway si shredboi. Nauna na si aya Yuson na bumasag sa kanya. Pero una niya kasing hinamon yung playing skill ko dahil sinabihan ko lang siya na di malinaw mga arpeggios niya.
Shredboi! Si chromotic spiders! Ang mandudurig. Hehe.
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Shredboi! Si chromotic spiders! Ang mandudurig. Hehe.
Actually "zhredboi" tamang zpelling.
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parang sa pinoydrums.. :-D
Uy I remember tonybagyo and Barabbas in the Pinoydrums section... Matindi ding away yun....
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Ricky, langya ka, sikat na sikat ka pala dito ha... :-D
basta ako i'm proud to say na yung banda namin noon ang unang mad science experiment ni dodjie sa bahay lang nila, and all of us,including Mr. Skunk loved it!
o di naman kaya parepareho lang tayong amused sa technology noon? joke lang...
i remember the screams at 3AM waking up your dad and your sister....hahaha! :-D
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Ricky, langya ka, sikat na sikat ka pala dito ha... :-D
basta ako i'm proud to say na yung banda namin noon ang unang mad science experiment ni dodjie sa bahay lang nila, and all of us,including Mr. Skunk loved it!
o di naman kaya parepareho lang tayong amused sa technology noon? joke lang...
i remember the screams at 3AM waking up your dad and your sister....hahaha! :-D
Man those were the days of Windows 95, my Cyrix 200MHz PC, Cooledit 1.0 (no plugins, everything DESTRUCTIVELY edited) and burning a CD on 1x with a high failure rate. (I used to burn at 2x, buffer underrun parati... P70 pa isang CDR noon!) I almost forgot... dalawa hard disk ko noon... Isang 1.2Gb, at isang 2.1Gb. Buti na lang EMU soundcard ko noon pero ISA lang, wala pang PCI noon.
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naka windows 98 ka na nun di ba? pinapatanda mo naman masyado edad natin e...
cool edit 1.0 = recording heaven (noon yun ha...)
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naka windows 98 ka na nun di ba? pinapatanda mo naman masyado edad natin e...
cool edit 1.0 = recording heaven (noon yun ha...)
Hindi man Win95 talaga!!! Kasi alam ko nag-98 lang ako noong lumabas yung Win98SE noong year 2000. Bumili pa ako ng orig na installer. '99 natin ginawa yung demo. I'm very sure...
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hmmm langya naalala ko tuloy yung ginagamit ko noon na Vendex XT pa.. na me sariling OS hehehe.. tapos nahilo ako sa IRQ.. MQX32 running master tracks pro at ensemble ng cakewalk..hanggang ngayon bano pa din ako sa MIDI :-D hanggang ngayon POSER pa din ako..haaayyy hirap talaga ng recording..
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Shredboi! Si chromotic spiders! Ang mandudurig. Hehe.
Actually "zhredboi" tamang zpelling.
tama ba to?
madawit ba naman ako sa Topic na to?
ano na naman ang kinalaman ko dito?
nakakasama lang ng loob.. nanahimik na ko sa ibang section dito sa philmusic..
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hahahaha the dudurigin days.
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tama ba to?
madawit ba naman ako sa Topic na to?
ano na naman ang kinalaman ko dito?
nakakasama lang ng loob.. nanahimik na ko sa ibang section dito sa philmusic..
NANINIWALA NA AKO! EPIC NGA ANG THREAD NA TO!!!!!!!!!!
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this calls for another round of beer! game! :lol:
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tama ba to?
madawit ba naman ako sa Topic na to?
ano na naman ang kinalaman ko dito?
nakakasama lang ng loob.. nanahimik na ko sa ibang section dito sa philmusic..
Tawanan mo na lang man. Past is passed. In jest na lang binanggit lahat to na walang init ng ulo.
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Obeertime ! Obeertime ! Obeertime ! Obeertime !
Healthy naman ngayon. Inihaw na fish !
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Obeertime ! Obeertime ! Obeertime ! Obeertime !
Healthy naman ngayon. Inihaw na fish !
Except TILAPIA and BANGUS... ( from Central luzon )... eeeewwwww.
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hahahaha the dudurigin days.
:-D
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Tawanan mo na lang man. Past is passed. In jest na lang binanggit lahat to na walang init ng ulo.
wala lang.. :-D :lol:
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tama ba to?
madawit ba naman ako sa Topic na to?
ano na naman ang kinalaman ko dito?
nakakasama lang ng loob.. nanahimik na ko sa ibang section dito sa philmusic..
Naku, kapatid, pasensiya na. Hindi ko intensiyong makasakit. Sorry.
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NANINIWALA NA AKO! EPIC NGA ANG THREAD NA TO!!!!!!!!!!
rarely at times when a MTPA thread enters this category :-D :-D :-D
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Round of Beer!!!
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epic pwnage. sarap basahin ng mga thread na ganito :lol:
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rarely at times when a MTPA thread enters this category :-D :-D :-D
ewan ko nga kung dapat ba ako maging proud o mahiya eh! hahaha!
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ewan ko nga kung dapat ba ako maging proud o mahiya eh! hahaha!
Siyempre nasa avatar mo dahilan.
Everytime you bump a thread.
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rarely at times when a MTPA thread enters this category :-D :-D :-D
because folks typically say what they think up front and have that be a subject of discussion. what happened with the OP was they they took a shady way of addressing something that would have been best discussed professionally, face-to-face. still can't figure out why they couldn't be adult about saying what they wanted in the first place *shrug*
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The turnouts of this thread is pretty much similar to that I LOVE YOU VIRUS outbreak. It was like, the whole world was hunting the author of the virus. When they found out that the virus came from an AMA student, AMA was like all over the newspapers saying "we do not tolerate this... we believe that knowledge should be used for good..." BS like that. But it was pretty obvious they were promoting their school 'business'.
What I know is the AMA I love you virus guy is already working with the CIA. IIRC.
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you have to admit, this thread gives us the opportunity to say "this deserves another round of beer!"
and others to say "Game! When?" :-D
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you have to admit, this thread gives us the opportunity to say "this deserves another round of beer!"
and others to say "Game! When?" :-D
Baka may date uli si Louie. :-D
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waaa.. buti na lang na clear na lahat..
hmm tnx sir dojs sa textinfo..
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Baka may date uli si Louie. :-D
para kang mga tropa ko nung highschool. pati sila ilang beses ko na na-indian.
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Sige na Louie, punta ka na. Let's spread the love...
Duon na lang natin pag-usapan....who's the Papa ahahaha jok
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Siyempre nasa avatar mo dahilan.
Everytime you bump a thread.
I know. I hope you realize it too. :-)
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Sige na Louie, punta ka na. Let's spread the love...
Duon na lang natin pag-usapan....who's the Papa ahahaha jok
Si boss emogeeks talaga oh! haha! naalala ko pa kanta mo. yung may chicharon bulaklak at lola? tama ba? It was fun watching you. noong buhay pa ung purple haze sa tomas morato! :-D
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Si boss emogeeks talaga oh! haha! naalala ko pa kanta mo. yung may chicharon bulaklak at lola? tama ba? It was fun watching you. noong buhay pa ung purple haze sa tomas morato! :-D
Oo alala ko din singer nyo na parang kiti-kiti pag kumakanta nasisipa/naapakan na yung pedalboard ni badong hehehe.
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Si boss emogeeks talaga oh! haha! naalala ko pa kanta mo. yung may chicharon bulaklak at lola? tama ba? It was fun watching you. noong buhay pa ung purple haze sa tomas morato! :-D
sana may nakapost na "PHOTOS".... MAS MASAYAAAAAA!!!!!!
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Oo alala ko din singer nyo na parang kiti-kiti pag kumakanta nasisipa/naapakan na yung pedalboard ni badong hehehe.
kala mo hyper-metal ung genre noh? haha!
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waaa.. buti na lang na clear na lahat..
hmm tnx sir dojs sa textinfo..
Yup. Sarap ng HHX cymbals mo parekoy. :D
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Yup. Sarap ng HHX cymbals mo parekoy. :D
haha..sir dojjs buy mo na..hahaha