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The Musician Forums => Guitar Central => Topic started by: zrehtiek on January 03, 2010, 01:24:12 PM
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pano po ba mag shred? kasi ambagal po ng daliri ko... di po ako makapag sweep and etc...
any tips? advice?
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pano po ba mag shred? kasi ambagal po ng daliri ko... di po ako makapag sweep and etc...
any tips? advice?
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pano po ba mag shred? kasi ambagal po ng daliri ko... di po ako makapag sweep and etc...
any tips? advice?
Practice with a metronome. Build up the accuracy in hitting notes. Speed will follow.
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- google some guitar lessons
- practice as often as you can
- don't give up
i can't shred but i'm doing those things i stated. :-)
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I heard the best advice was to practice
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PRACTICE lang dude.. And get a METRONOME for speed and accuracy.
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hmm... metronome = muscle memory = accuracy = speed...
nagmemetronome na ko... still no speed...
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hmm... metronome = muscle memory = accuracy = speed...
nagmemetronome na ko... still no speed...
Speed will follow. Increase mo tempo once in a while, tapos try mo din ipush yung sarili mo into playing with a faster tempo than the usual mo na ginagamit.
Tom Hess FTW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYjXQZQRZHQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYjXQZQRZHQ)
:-)
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panahon kailangan para makuha mo yun. hindi lang months but years. :) metronome is ok, pero dapat never mag papasma, kasi one reason ng pag buhol at nginig ng fingers eh.
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A Metronome is a BIG help for me. Pero ngayon, hindi ko na masyadong ma-appreciate ang shred, ewan ko ba. Mas feel ko ang blues, parang mas may emotion kasi dun eh. IMO lang naman.
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A Metronome is a BIG help for me. Pero ngayon, hindi ko na masyadong ma-appreciate ang shred, ewan ko ba. Mas feel ko ang blues, parang mas may emotion kasi dun eh. IMO lang naman.
ako din...Influenced by a lot of blues players... I'm a shred stick slinging blues kid. :lol: minsan, i use fast runs to add a bit of flavor lang to my improvs..
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@TS
wag ka muna mag sweep, masyado pa advanced yun.
practice proper coordination lang. mag aral ka ng 3 note per string runs tapos iba-ibahin mo. kunyari 3 note per string pero quarter notes ang bilang instead of triplets. :lol:
also look for the perfect pick, and the perfect picking angle for you.
youtube videos also help.
most of all, practice. 2-3 hours a day. :-D
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change career :evil:
haha joke...
watch Kristofer Dahl guitar lessons in guitarmasterclass.net
hehe he's a good teacher and a funny man :-D
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change career :evil:
haha joke...
watch Kristofer Dahl guitar lessons in guitarmasterclass.net
hehe he's a good teacher and a funny man :-D
Love his humor! :lol: meron din siya free lessons sa UG at youtube.
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Love his humor! :lol: meron din siya free lessons sa UG at youtube.
yeah! hindi ka tatamarin sa lessons niya kasi nagpapatawa siya habang nagtuturo :-D
I like his christmas guitar lesson,hanggang ngayon naapply ko padin ung licks na un sa playing ko :evil:
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im not that much to shredding too but i just wanted to try it...
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sana makatulong kahit onti :)
1. keep in mind the economy of motion
- start slow
- moving your hands faster wont allow you to play really really fast
- precise movements para efficient
- economy picking
- less is more
2. remain calm and don't get carried away
- remaining calm will allow you to make precise movements
- play with the least amount of tension
3. take your pick
- most players who are into shredding prefer picks that are very thick or those jazz picks.
- the guitar string should conform to the movement of your pick, not the other way around
playing near the bridge will cause the strings to vibrate faster (which will slightly aid in playing fast) unlike playing near the neck which will make the strings vibrate wider
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sana makatulong kahit onti :)
1. keep in mind the economy of motion
- start slow
- moving your hands faster wont allow you to play really really fast
- precise movements para efficient
- economy picking
- less is more
2. remain calm and don't get carried away
- remaining calm will allow you to make precise movements
- play with the least amount of tension
3. take your pick
- most players who are into shredding prefer picks that are very thick or those jazz picks.
- the guitar string should conform to the movement of your pick, not the other way around
playing near the bridge will cause the strings to vibrate faster (which will slightly aid in playing fast) unlike playing near the neck which will make the strings vibrate wider
thanks... :-D
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speed is only a side effect. practice accuracy and precision. establish your comfort zone first then practice outside it.
labo no :lol: don't worry dude, with the right amount of practice, you'll only get better.
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practice! practice! practice! (i think i'm saying these to myself..lol)
muscle memory and time are the things you need to be able to shred on your guitar... and try to look for Jazz III picks... shred on!!!
ps: try learning economy and alternate picking (for your right hand)
and just practice different kinds of scales with that and you are on your way...
METAL ON!!! :evil:
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practice! practice! practice! (i think i'm saying these to myself..lol)
muscle memory and time are the things you need to be able to shred on your guitar... and try to look for Jazz III picks... shred on!!!
ps: try learning economy and alternate picking (for your right hand)
and just practice different kinds of scales with that and you are on your way...
METAL ON!!! :evil:
i use jazz III now... :-P
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master the alternate picking and economy picking with a metronome. thats your weapon to shred
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i use jazz III now... :-P
speaking of jazz III picks...i saw and bought some picks on a store (di ko na lang banggitin baka may magalit) last year and para silang fake... like "cut outs" from a piece of plastic (parang sa laruan...rough edges). i asked kung bakit ganun. sabi nung nagtitinda kahit sila nagtataka. may nakabili ba sa inyo ng ganito? good thing i have one or two na reserba na nabili ko like 2-3 years ago.
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palit ka ng mabilis na daliri.
(quick finger ang tawag.. ewan ko lang kun may available pa sa audiophile)
o kaya practice ka.. slow and easy till bumilis din yan eventually.. but remember to practice the right technique, not just the need for speed..
ako? sa chix ako nagpapractice ng daliri e. ayun.. awa ng libog bumillis naman. gusto mo pakitaan kita ng shredding ala beerhouse? puro "ah ah" "oh oh" tsaka "yeah that's it!" ang tone na lumalabas e. :evil:
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from lessons i was taught the following things for efficient and fast picking:
-practice. muscle memory is key.
-dynamics. pay attention to how you pick and fret notes then practice the correct method for playing.
-study how your fretting hand plays notes and adjust so that you transition seamlessly from one note to the other or from one pattern to another if you are playing compound passages.
-play with a metronome and vary the speed so you ramp up in a given period of time.
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just focus and enjoy shredding potato :D
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Practice, Practice and Practice......
that's the basic practice of learning and don't stop learning
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sabi nga, feel. right phrasing helps a lot. nadidismaya ako pag nakakakita ako ng mga shredders sa mga gigs na panay ang lamas sa fretboard kahit sintunado na at mejo icky na yung mga notes, dagdagan mo pa ng uber high gain ng distortion na sobrang compressed.
o baka naman inggit lang ako :D hindi naman siguro.
pero kung seryoso ka talaga, at kung bata ka pa, practice practice practice. parang tula, namememorize kapag may repetition. ganun din sa daliri. take command sa mga fingers mo. the spider exercise helps.
sa kaso ko medyo matigas na mga daliri, so maliit na ang pag-asa. tsaka di talaga ako shredder. ako si master splinter :evil:
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metronome is like a treadmill.
:)
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in case wala kang metronome sa bahay. hope this helps. :wink:
http://metronomeonline.com/ (http://metronomeonline.com/)
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speaking of jazz III picks...i saw and bought some picks on a store (di ko na lang banggitin baka may magalit) last year and para silang fake... like "cut outs" from a piece of plastic (parang sa laruan...rough edges). i asked kung bakit ganun. sabi nung nagtitinda kahit sila nagtataka. may nakabili ba sa inyo ng ganito? good thing i have one or two na reserba na nabili ko like 2-3 years ago.
cough cough... l*zer
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cough cough... l*zer
LOZER? :lol:
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speaking of jazz III picks...i saw and bought some picks on a store (di ko na lang banggitin baka may magalit) last year and para silang fake... like "cut outs" from a piece of plastic (parang sa laruan...rough edges). i asked kung bakit ganun. sabi nung nagtitinda kahit sila nagtataka. may nakabili ba sa inyo ng ganito? good thing i have one or two na reserba na nabili ko like 2-3 years ago.
l***r ba yan?
jan ko din binili jazz III ko... ganun nga edges... fake nga ata...
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practice........ :wink:
dami video from youtube. . marami ka makikita doon, na
makakasagot ng problem mo.. :wink:
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l***r ba yan?
jan ko din binili jazz III ko... ganun nga edges... fake nga ata...
mmmm.... hehehe :roll:
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ako? sa chix ako nagpapractice ng daliri e. ayun.. awa ng libog bumillis naman. gusto mo pakitaan kita ng shredding ala beerhouse? puro "ah ah" "oh oh" tsaka "yeah that's it!" ang tone na lumalabas e. :evil:
babboy:) :-D :-D :-D haha.. napakahusay aa..
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hmm... metronome = muscle memory = accuracy = speed...
nagmemetronome na ko... still no speed...
how long have you been using a metronome?
the speed won't instantly happen...
here are some things you can try out when practicing with a metronome...
1. practice without any effects... use the clean channel of your amp... do this throughout your regimen...
2. create a calendar for your speed regimen... remember to start really slow... if you can, start at 40bpm then increase the speed when you can really play those licks you want to play cleanly at that specific speed... again, only increase the speed when you have truly played the lick cleanly... set clear and attainable goals for each day of your calendar...
3. stop practicing for 5 minutes if you feel even the slightest bit of pain...
4. do not do anything else when practicing... focus on fretting and picking the strings right to get the right note... be conscious of your sound...
5. you'll feel very frustrated, sleepy, and bored when you do those things above... but that's what you need to do to get the speed you want... so be patient... breathe in and out when you get frustrated... stop practicing and do something else... then return to your guitar and finish the schedule you made for that day...
i, for one, am not able to play any speed licks... but my goal is not to play faster... my goal is to be able to just play the guitar enough to make people listen and enjoy the music...
good luck!
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Uh, porn for the right hand. Girlfriend for the left. Haha. Kidding.
Get Rock Discipline by Petrucci or Speed Mechanics of Troy Stetina.
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paul gilbert. intense guitar. :-D
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pero the downside of shred is maintain the speed level :-D
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first listen to what shred stlye you dig pare..listen listen...tapos kilalanin mo yang artist anu ba ang mga tricks ang tips nya..tapos ensayo ensayo ensayo by metronome and free time..iba iba kasi ang shredding stlye..
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... or Speed Mechanics of Troy Stetina.
+1 for Speed Mechanics.. hanggang ngayon ingrained pa din sa utak yung 1234 2341 3412 4123 tsaka yung 134 341 413 etc.. hehe.. ang hindi ko natutunan dun yung 'economy' picking.. puro alternate, later na yung 'economy' nung alam ko na yung ginagawa ko haha..
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practice! practice! practice! (i think i'm saying these to myself..lol)
muscle memory and time are the things you need to be able to shred on your guitar... and try to look for Jazz III picks... shred on!!!
ps: try learning economy and alternate picking (for your right hand)
and just practice different kinds of scales with that and you are on your way...
METAL ON!!! :evil:
muscle memory?..sir ano po yun?..hehe!!d ko kasi alam..hehe
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Lahat naman ng Guitar Geek and pro's started slow movement of finger!!!!!
everybody knows the answer!!! Practice and Practice!!!!
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anong pattern ang ginagamit niu pag nag memetronome kayo?pwede pashare hehe salamat mga idol :-D
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Newbie question lang po...ano po yung Metronome? Hehe!
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Watch videos of the shredmasters para ganahan ka. :evil:
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Metronome:
the thing that goes tick.... tock.......tick.... tock.......tick.... tock....... if it does not make you crazy...... then I don't know what will
you use it for timing like fly fishing ( A river runs through it), sex....., playing the guitar, sex......, violin, sex.....and so on.
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Newbie question lang po...ano po yung Metronome? Hehe!
online metronome - http://www.metronomeonline.com/
old school metronome -
(http://www.thomasjwestmusic.com/graphics/metronome.jpg)
digital metronome -
(http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/METRONOME+BOSS+DR+BEAT+DB-60.JPG)
if you're on a tight budget and you can't buy a metronome from a store, or you don't have net access at home, this is what you can use as a substitute...
(http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Analog_watch_2.jpg)
use the 'second hand' when practicing... that's exactly 60bpm...
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Practice your alternate picking & legato playing.
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saan po ba makakabili ng metronome?? :?
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saan po ba makakabili ng metronome?? :?
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Music stores.