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Title: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on February 04, 2010, 08:24:41 AM
i would just like to open a new topic just to answer an inquiry lifted from a previous thread.
   
Re: unboxing the 'beast' . . . the real 1000w 18" woofer
« Reply #23 on: Today at 08:06:44 AM »

cant afford kami for this amp,

anong ibang amp ang match for this?


if you have a budget of more than 100k,  go for a Crown MA3600vz or even a 5000vz.  :evil:

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/3600vz.jpg)

although there are already new amps in the market below this price range that are good enough to power your subs.  i will try to post more later  8-)
   
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on February 04, 2010, 08:27:21 AM
crell ca-20.. dami gumagamit nito with their sd-18el loaded cabs
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on February 04, 2010, 09:44:06 AM
salamat mga bro.

san ba makakbili nun crell? nasa magkano kaya?

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on February 04, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
I tried the Peavey pv3800 power amp for my dual 18 subs.  So far it's been a good amp.  I bought it from audiophile pioneer branch last year.  It's around 41k (discounted).

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3047/pv3800.jpg)

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: barracks01 on February 04, 2010, 11:48:20 AM
salamat mga bro.

san ba makakbili nun crell? nasa magkano kaya?



try mo dito bro   http://www.kolin.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=50&Itemid=97
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on February 04, 2010, 12:07:54 PM
salamat mga bro.

san ba makakbili nun crell? nasa magkano kaya?



m. l. rapacaon marketing
kamias cor anonas st
kamias q.c.
0916 5754237
40- 45 thou cguro
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on February 04, 2010, 12:38:38 PM
QSC RMX5050   :lol:

P88990 last updated price

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/QSC_RMX_5050_Power_Amp.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on February 04, 2010, 12:52:35 PM
mahal,, hehe,, if dito sa province na mura rentals,, mababa ROI (return of investment) thanks sa china,, madami na clones ng branded amps nabibili at lower price,,
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on February 04, 2010, 01:06:22 PM
QSC RMX5050   :lol:

P88990 last updated price

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/QSC_RMX_5050_Power_Amp.jpg)

bigatin ka talaga. hehe
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on February 04, 2010, 01:40:41 PM
if bigatins.. bigatin sa bulsa,, pero magaan buhatin
powersoft k10
lab gruppen amps
crown macrotech i series
qsc pl380
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on February 05, 2010, 08:01:24 AM
I tried the Peavey pv3800 power amp for my dual 18 subs.  So far it's been a good amp.  I bought it from audiophile pioneer branch last year.  It's around 41k (discounted).

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3047/pv3800.jpg)



this amp has a lot of potential if it's around 41thou only.    :-o

775 Watts/ch @ 8 ohms
1300 Watts/ch @ 4 ohms


(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/peavey.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on February 05, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
this amp has a lot of potential if it's around 41thou only.    :-o

775 Watts/ch @ 8 ohms
1300 Watts/ch @ 4 ohms


(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/peavey.jpg)

Nice one.  Sana sir makita nyo ang inside nitong amp at kung possible maishare nyo din dto . . . Tnx.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on February 05, 2010, 10:21:07 PM
we bought Sound Standard amplifier from tms to power our subs, di tumagal ng 1 year, binalik na namin sa kanila for repairs, kaso mag aaniversary na un sa kanila, di pa nila nagagawa. bad. tsktsk.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: CodeOne on February 05, 2010, 11:29:27 PM
 :-D try the new crell ca-25....
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: barracks01 on February 06, 2010, 03:19:11 PM
:-D try the new crell ca-25....

gamit mo ngayon sir? whats the performance? balak ko kc bumili din for my sub, kaso nag aalangan ako.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: senti on February 10, 2010, 08:41:05 AM

why not just buy an amplifier module and make your subs self-powered? 

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on February 10, 2010, 01:14:58 PM
:-D try the new crell ca-25....

 + 1  :-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on February 18, 2010, 07:09:36 AM
May dealer pa ba dito ng SOUND STANDARD?  Ok yung CA18 at CA20 amps pang subs.  I think this is the website: http://www.saechina.com/CA.html.  Tnx.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on February 18, 2010, 08:30:56 AM
i think dealer dyan sina forerunner
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on February 18, 2010, 08:43:13 AM
May dealer pa ba dito ng SOUND STANDARD?  Ok yung CA18 at CA20 amps pang subs.  I think this is the website: http://www.saechina.com/CA.html.  Tnx.  :mrgreen:

tama si spacejam, forerunner meron nyan,

mahirap na kapag nasira sir. tagal na naka tengga ng amp namin sa tms, wala parin daw shipment nung pyesa na kelangan para marepair un amp namin, tsktsk.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on February 18, 2010, 10:23:55 AM
tama si spacejam, forerunner meron nyan,

mahirap na kapag nasira sir. tagal na naka tengga ng amp namin sa tms, wala parin daw shipment nung pyesa na kelangan para marepair un amp namin, tsktsk.

Tnx for the info sirs.  May kanya-kanyang issues sa "after sales service" ang mga suppliers ng pro-audio equipments dito sa atin.  Kaya ako better research muna dapat gawin before buying something like reading forums about pro-audio.  At least mga testimonials ng mga users at owners ng gamit ang nababasa mo. Madami kasing mga retailers ng equipments lalo na from china na nagsisilabasan ngayon at alok ng alok ng gamit pero kulang sa support.   :|  :oops:  :cry:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mixx on February 18, 2010, 11:39:16 AM
Tnx for the info sirs.  May kanya-kanyang issues sa "after sales service" ang mga suppliers ng pro-audio equipments dito sa atin.  Kaya ako better research muna dapat gawin before buying something like reading forums about pro-audio.  At least mga testimonials ng mga users at owners ng gamit ang nababasa mo. Madami kasing mga retailers ng equipments lalo na from china na nagsisilabasan ngayon at alok ng alok ng gamit pero kulang sa support.   :|  :oops:  :cry:


QSC is great for support as long as you know something about electronics, my qsc rmx1850 got busted after ondoy after futile attempts in finding the damaged part i emailed qsc support and they gladly helped me out step by step, imagine 1 capacitor costing 1 peso in alexan lng ang pinalitan ko, btw i did called audiophile that time and told me turn around time is about 2-3months since their center was flooded also
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on February 18, 2010, 09:46:11 PM
Peavey PV3800 internals

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1759/pv38001.th.jpg)

(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6332/pv38007.th.jpg)

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1531/pv38006.th.jpg)



Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: CodeOne on February 24, 2010, 07:41:29 AM
 :-D
(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/CA-25.gif)

    * 1400W 8ohms stereo power
    * 2500W 4ohms stereo power
    * 4200W 8ohms bridge power
    * 20Hz-20KHz, (+0/ -0.5dB) Freq. Response
    * 300-400 Damping Factor
    * >105dB S/N Ratio
    * >82dB Crosstalk; 45/ s Slew Ratio
    * 0dB (0.775V), 1V, 1V, 1.4V (changeable) Input sensitivity
    * Overheat, Short Circuits, DC, Limit and Soft start, Output Relay Protection.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: prx on February 24, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
pre magkano ngaun ang price ng CA25
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: CodeOne on February 25, 2010, 08:36:33 AM
 :-) Crell CA-25   php 52,000
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on February 25, 2010, 02:51:21 PM
:-) Crell CA-25   php 52,000

+ 1. Try nyo din yung Peavey PV3800. Nasa 41k discounted na. Natry na ng mga ibang kakilala ko malakas din daw at malinis.  :lol:

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on February 26, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
The Peavey PV3800 will do.  Can power my old Fane Colossus 18" for a mid-size gig. 2 per side.

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/372/005131403.jpg)

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9129/fanecol18b.jpg)
Fane Colossus

I'll be trying this amp on the P Audio C-18elf very very soon. Update ko kayo :-D

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on March 02, 2010, 10:12:19 PM
Okey ba itong amp na ito kung bridged natin?

(http://www.grfaudio2007.com/bookpic/200733014265854332.jpg)

Model    MR-2600               
Frquency Response    20Hz-20KHz               
8 ohm stereo            2X630W               
4 ohm stereo            2X1020W               
8 ohm Bridged            1500W               
Total Harmonic Distortion    <0.5%               
Damping Factor             (400Hz~1KHz)>400               
Input Impedance            10Kohm               
S/N Ratio                    >100dB               
Power Supply            AC-180V~240V, (50HZ~60HZ)               
Voltage Gain            39dB               
Dimensions                    88x483x485mm               
Packing Dimensions    540x530x190mm               
Weight                    23 kg


P23,600

im still looking for other amps, any suggestions? thanks
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: CodeOne on March 03, 2010, 09:29:16 AM

ACM-M21200 Professional Power Amplifier

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200.jpg)

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200b.jpg)


SPECIFICATION:

Rated power bridge mode 8 Ohms    3600Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (2 X4 Ohms):    1800 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D. both channels driven
Rated power (2 X 8 Ohms):    1200 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D.both channels driven
Power bandwidth:    20 Hz - 20kHz; +0, -0.5 dB at rated 500 Watts 8 Ohm power
T.H.D.(2 X 4 Ohms):    <0.05%@900 Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
T.H.D.(2 X 8 Ohms):    <0.05%@600Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
Minimum load impedance:    2 Ohms
Maximum RMS voltage swing:    110Volts
Frequency response:    10 Hz - 50 kHz; +0, -3 dB at 1 Watt
Input CMRR:    >-65 dB @ 1 kHz
Rated power (1 X 4 Ohms):    1980 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (1 X 8 Ohms):    1300 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Phase response:    +20 to -25 from 20 Hz to 20 kHz
Input impedance:    20 k Ohms, balanced; 10k Ohms, unbalanced
Cooling:    Tow temperature dependant variable speed 120mm high output DC fans
Controls:    Two front panel attenuators, rear panel mode switch and gain select switch
Voltage gain:    0.775V, 32 dB or 26 dB
Crosstalk:    >-60 dB @ 1 kHz at rated power @ 8 Ohms
Hum and noise:    >-104 dB, "A" weighted referenced to rated power @ 8 Ohms
Slew rate:    >25V/us
Damping factor (8 Ohms):    >800:1 @ 20Hz - 1 kHz
Indicator LEDs:    2 Clip,2 signal presence, 2 active status, 2Protection
Protection:    Thermal, DC, turn-on bursts, incorrect loads
Connectors:    XLR, Speakon and Binding Post speaker output,
240/230 Volt 20 amp IEC mains
Construction:    16 ga. Steel
Dimensions:    132mm x 483 mm x 498 mm
Net weight:    36kg
Gross weight:    39kg

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Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: JVP on March 03, 2010, 10:49:48 AM

ACM-M21200 Professional Power Amplifier

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200.jpg)

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200b.jpg)


SPECIFICATION:

Rated power bridge mode 8 Ohms    3600Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (2 X4 Ohms):    1800 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D. both channels driven
Rated power (2 X 8 Ohms):    1200 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D.both channels driven
Power bandwidth:    20 Hz - 20kHz; +0, -0.5 dB at rated 500 Watts 8 Ohm power
T.H.D.(2 X 4 Ohms):    <0.05%@900 Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
T.H.D.(2 X 8 Ohms):    <0.05%@600Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
Minimum load impedance:    2 Ohms
Maximum RMS voltage swing:    110Volts
Frequency response:    10 Hz - 50 kHz; +0, -3 dB at 1 Watt
Input CMRR:    >-65 dB @ 1 kHz
Rated power (1 X 4 Ohms):    1980 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (1 X 8 Ohms):    1300 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Phase response:    +20 to -25 from 20 Hz to 20 kHz
Input impedance:    20 k Ohms, balanced; 10k Ohms, unbalanced
Cooling:    Tow temperature dependant variable speed 120mm high output DC fans
Controls:    Two front panel attenuators, rear panel mode switch and gain select switch
Voltage gain:    0.775V, 32 dB or 26 dB
Crosstalk:    >-60 dB @ 1 kHz at rated power @ 8 Ohms
Hum and noise:    >-104 dB, "A" weighted referenced to rated power @ 8 Ohms
Slew rate:    >25V/us
Damping factor (8 Ohms):    >800:1 @ 20Hz - 1 kHz
Indicator LEDs:    2 Clip,2 signal presence, 2 active status, 2Protection
Protection:    Thermal, DC, turn-on bursts, incorrect loads
Connectors:    XLR, Speakon and Binding Post speaker output,
240/230 Volt 20 amp IEC mains
Construction:    16 ga. Steel
Dimensions:    132mm x 483 mm x 498 mm
Net weight:    36kg
Gross weight:    39kg

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SIR MAGKANO TONG AMP NA ITO ACMAUDIO M21200
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: CodeOne on March 03, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
 :mrgreen: around 32k yata sir price nito sa market.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on March 04, 2010, 03:30:47 PM
Okey ba itong amp na ito kung bridged natin?

(http://www.grfaudio2007.com/bookpic/200733014265854332.jpg)

Model    MR-2600               
Frquency Response    20Hz-20KHz               
8 ohm stereo            2X630W               
4 ohm stereo            2X1020W               
8 ohm Bridged            1500W               
Total Harmonic Distortion    <0.5%               
Damping Factor             (400Hz~1KHz)>400               
Input Impedance            10Kohm               
S/N Ratio                    >100dB               
Power Supply            AC-180V~240V, (50HZ~60HZ)               
Voltage Gain            39dB               
Dimensions                    88x483x485mm               
Packing Dimensions    540x530x190mm               
Weight                    23 kg


P23,600

im still looking for other amps, any suggestions? thanks

as much as possible, try avoiding the 'bridged mode'.  look for a power amp that has a really high power rating per channel so that you can maintain a normal L & R stereo set-up.

hope this helps.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on March 04, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
as much as possible, try avoiding the 'bridged mode'.  look for a power amp that has a really high power rating per channel so that you can maintain a normal L & R stereo set-up.

hope this helps.

Thanks sir Jeff.

is this amp is good for 500watts 8ohms speaker? like p audio c12 500mb?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on March 04, 2010, 05:56:32 PM
Thanks sir Jeff.

is this amp is good for 500watts 8ohms speaker? like p audio c12 500mb?

based on the amplifier specs,  it will work.  but i still doubt the grf's ability to power the c12 500 (with less distortion) since the c12 500 has a 4inch voice coil.  i think kung 1 per side lang, ok na.  try the c12 300 instead since this has only 300watts rms.

hope this helps  8-)

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on March 04, 2010, 06:07:03 PM
based on the amplifier specs,  it will work.  but i still doubt the grf's ability to power the c12 500 (with less distortion) since the c12 500 has a 4inch voice coil.  i think kung 1 per side lang, ok na.  try the c12 300 instead since this has only 300watts rms.

hope this helps  8-)



salamat sir. :)

OT: tanong lang mga sir, anong gamit na house sa 19east?

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Bellissima on March 04, 2010, 07:56:10 PM
+1 ako dito....I've tested this amp and it never let me down. Malakas talaga hindi pa lng sya masyado sikat sa market :-D


ACM-M21200 Professional Power Amplifier

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200.jpg)

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200b.jpg)


SPECIFICATION:

Rated power bridge mode 8 Ohms    3600Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (2 X4 Ohms):    1800 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D. both channels driven
Rated power (2 X 8 Ohms):    1200 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D.both channels driven
Power bandwidth:    20 Hz - 20kHz; +0, -0.5 dB at rated 500 Watts 8 Ohm power
T.H.D.(2 X 4 Ohms):    <0.05%@900 Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
T.H.D.(2 X 8 Ohms):    <0.05%@600Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
Minimum load impedance:    2 Ohms
Maximum RMS voltage swing:    110Volts
Frequency response:    10 Hz - 50 kHz; +0, -3 dB at 1 Watt
Input CMRR:    >-65 dB @ 1 kHz
Rated power (1 X 4 Ohms):    1980 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (1 X 8 Ohms):    1300 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Phase response:    +20 to -25 from 20 Hz to 20 kHz
Input impedance:    20 k Ohms, balanced; 10k Ohms, unbalanced
Cooling:    Tow temperature dependant variable speed 120mm high output DC fans
Controls:    Two front panel attenuators, rear panel mode switch and gain select switch
Voltage gain:    0.775V, 32 dB or 26 dB
Crosstalk:    >-60 dB @ 1 kHz at rated power @ 8 Ohms
Hum and noise:    >-104 dB, "A" weighted referenced to rated power @ 8 Ohms
Slew rate:    >25V/us
Damping factor (8 Ohms):    >800:1 @ 20Hz - 1 kHz
Indicator LEDs:    2 Clip,2 signal presence, 2 active status, 2Protection
Protection:    Thermal, DC, turn-on bursts, incorrect loads
Connectors:    XLR, Speakon and Binding Post speaker output,
240/230 Volt 20 amp IEC mains
Construction:    16 ga. Steel
Dimensions:    132mm x 483 mm x 498 mm
Net weight:    36kg
Gross weight:    39kg

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Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mixx on March 09, 2010, 10:49:39 AM
try mo bro 2x na rmx 1850 naka bridge, been using that for quite sometime ok nman sya sa 4ohms na subs(dual 18" 1200wrms)
mas mura pa yung 2x na rmx1850 compared to a single rmx5050, mas flexible pa yung setup mo, and naka qsc ka pa

heres a pic of my amp rack
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6600/amprack.png) (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/amprack.png/)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: maestro_dese_8 on March 27, 2010, 04:11:27 PM
The Peavey PV3800 will do.  Can power my old Fane Colossus 18" for a mid-size gig. 2 per side.

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/372/005131403.jpg)

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9129/fanecol18b.jpg)
Fane Colossus

I'll be trying this amp on the P Audio C-18elf very very soon. Update ko kayo :-D


sir magkanu yung fane na speaker saka ilang watts ayos ba tumunog yan
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on March 28, 2010, 07:43:08 AM
sir magkanu yung fane na speaker saka ilang watts ayos ba tumunog yan

Bro, matagal na yung fane 18inch ko.  I bought them before (on sale) Php 10000 each at JB.  They sounded ok except when the coil gets busted, there are no parts available.  :x

Check this out http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,163602.25.html
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: compact audio on March 28, 2010, 05:57:30 PM
hi pwede bang magtanong? yong about sa tasso I 12 series okey rin ba? 1500W daw sa 8oms stereo ng rated power nya?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on March 29, 2010, 07:41:50 AM
hi pwede bang magtanong? yong about sa tasso I 12 series okey rin ba? 1500W daw sa 8oms stereo ng rated power nya?


Sir,  try this: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,175175.0.html
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: maestro_dese_8 on March 29, 2010, 04:32:04 PM
Bro, matagal na yung fane 18inch ko.  I bought them before (on sale) Php 10000 each at JB.  They sounded ok except when the coil gets busted, there are no parts available.  :x

Check this out http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,163602.25.html
thanks bro naka kita kasi ako ng dealer sa dubai its 440 dirhams about 5k sa peso tapos emminence kappa pro 15 4k lang sa peso each.. looks interesting ano po sa palagay nyo
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on March 29, 2010, 04:55:07 PM
thanks bro naka kita kasi ako ng dealer sa dubai its 440 dirhams about 5k sa peso tapos emminence kappa pro 15 4k lang sa peso each.. looks interesting ano po sa palagay nyo

Bro, ok ang fane at 5k worth.  But side by side comparison, outperformed ito ng p.audio c-18elf ko ngayon  :-D

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1441/c18elf.jpg)

Remember, The wrong piece of gear, at the right price, is still the wrong piece of gear.  :roll:

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: maestro_dese_8 on March 29, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
oo nga noh. salamat sa payo. go p.audio..... invest the right gear!!!!!!
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: AE_Audio02 on April 11, 2010, 02:52:19 PM
Nakabili ako last week ng sub woofer speaker Crown S-PRO-152 ang napili ko (limited budget kasi hehehe..)
http://crown.com.ph/index.php/product/search/subwoofer#passivesubwoofer

Nakasulat sa box nya power rating is 500W to 1000W at 8 ohms.

Ano kaya yun affordable amp na pwede dito?
yun sanang Crown LPS-2500 kaso bitin ata sa power rating.

Ang max budget ko eh P20k lang.

Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lowriderthug on May 14, 2010, 01:00:16 PM
try mo bro 2x na rmx 1850 naka bridge, been using that for quite sometime ok nman sya sa 4ohms na subs(dual 18" 1200wrms)
mas mura pa yung 2x na rmx1850 compared to a single rmx5050, mas flexible pa yung setup mo, and naka qsc ka pa

heres a pic of my amp rack
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6600/amprack.png) (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/amprack.png/)


saan mo gamit ung SoundStandard na amp na nasa pinaka ilalim?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on May 14, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
try mo bro 2x na rmx 1850 naka bridge, been using that for quite sometime ok nman sya sa 4ohms na subs(dual 18" 1200wrms)
mas mura pa yung 2x na rmx1850 compared to a single rmx5050, mas flexible pa yung setup mo, and naka qsc ka pa

heres a pic of my amp rack
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6600/amprack.png) (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/amprack.png/)

This is a good way of setting-up.  At 4 ohms bridged,  the QSC RMX1850 can fire 1800 watts.  Enough to supply the 1200 watts for the dual 18".  8-)  The best part,  you're geared up with QSC amps on your rack.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on May 15, 2010, 04:45:04 PM
we used this amp crown power base 2, sa sub
(http://www.immusical.com/crownpb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: karlwilson on May 15, 2010, 08:56:23 PM
try mo bro 2x na rmx 1850 naka bridge, been using that for quite sometime ok nman sya sa 4ohms na subs(dual 18" 1200wrms)
mas mura pa yung 2x na rmx1850 compared to a single rmx5050, mas flexible pa yung setup mo, and naka qsc ka pa

heres a pic of my amp rack
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6600/amprack.png) (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/amprack.png/)

pano ba mag-bridge ng amp sir?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on May 22, 2010, 11:58:24 AM
lifted this from another topic:
    
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #144 on: Today at 11:23:57 AM »
   
sir, the selection of the amp is primarily based on the type of speaker/woofer that you will be using.  for the c-18elf which is rated at 800 watts at 8 ohms,  try to look for an amp that can produce 1000 to 1200 watts at 8 ohms (stereo-mode).

hope this helps.  

@king_james
Just to add,  for an amplifier to better power your low frequencies,  check the DAMPING FACTOR specs.  If it's higher than 800,  then expect better bass response.

+1 for the damping factor.  crown amps typify this feature.  i think it's largely the reason on why crown amps are known as the best amplifiers for your subwoofers.  8-)  the ma3600vz and 5000vz both have a damping factor of >1000.

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/crownmavzserie.jpg)

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: karlwilson on May 22, 2010, 07:52:02 PM
how much naman kaya ito sir..sorry ha,laguna ako ,long distance charges sa manila ang calls sa landline..kaya dito lang nakaka-inquier sa forum.thanks
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on May 24, 2010, 02:10:11 PM
lifted this from another topic:
    
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #144 on: Today at 11:23:57 AM »
   
sir, the selection of the amp is primarily based on the type of speaker/woofer that you will be using.  for the c-18elf which is rated at 800 watts at 8 ohms,  try to look for an amp that can produce 1000 to 1200 watts at 8 ohms (stereo-mode).

hope this helps.  

@king_james
Just to add,  for an amplifier to better power your low frequencies,  check the DAMPING FACTOR specs.  If it's higher than 800,  then expect better bass response.

+1 for the damping factor.  crown amps typify this feature.  i think it's largely the reason on why crown amps are known as the best amplifiers for your subwoofers.  8-)  the ma3600vz and 5000vz both have a damping factor of >1000.

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/crownmavzserie.jpg)



+ 1  :lol: kilalA na talagA ang cr0wn 3600vz at 5000vz pang subs.

skA nabanggit din samin dAti na "l0w impedance" amplifier ang cr0wn kaYa hindi gaan0 nasisira ang speAkers mo pag it0 ang amp m0.  :lol:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ohms05 on May 25, 2010, 04:09:37 PM
Ive seen magus amplifier driven on 2 wsx subs malakas and di umaabot sa clipping though naka full set yung volume sa amps.
anybody knows where i can buy this amp?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on May 25, 2010, 04:15:43 PM
Ive seen magus amplifier driven on 2 wsx subs malakas and di umaabot sa clipping though naka full set yung volume sa amps.
anybody knows where i can buy this amp?
ang dami po niyan sa Raon  less than 15k
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ohms05 on May 28, 2010, 03:31:51 PM
ah thanks bro well check
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on May 31, 2010, 03:55:11 AM
we used this amp crown power base 2, sa sub
(http://www.immusical.com/crownpb1.jpg)

hindi ba underpower ang crown powerbase2 for subs?  although we tried this series before at 'parallel-mono' mode to max it out and magic!  :lol:

this is how it's done:

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/parallelmode-1.jpg)

at basic stereo mode,  the pb2 is rated at 325w into 8 ohms per channel.  but at 'parallel-mono' mode,  the pb2 can unleash 920w into 2 ohms.  therefore, if you have a pair of 18", then you can expect at least 460w (920w / 2) to go to every speaker.

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/powerbase2specs-1.jpg)

take note that this old powerbase series has a damping factor of >1000. so expect better bass response.  8-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: sl1200ltd on May 31, 2010, 04:49:52 AM
hindi ba underpower ang crown powerbase2 for subs?  although we tried this series before at 'parallel-mono' mode to max it out and magic!  :lol:

this is how it's done:

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/parallelmode-1.jpg)

at basic stereo mode,  the pb2 is rated at 325w into 8 ohms per channel.  but at 'parallel-mono' mode,  the pb2 can unleash 920w into 2 ohms.  therefore, if you have a pair of 18", then you can expect at least 460w (920w / 2) to go to every speaker.

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/powerbase2specs-1.jpg)

take note that this old powerbase series has a damping factor of >1000. so expect better bass response.  8-)

If you have a pair (2pcs.) of 18" assuming 8ohms each x 2 then that will only be 4ohms load... so in Parallel-Mono mode that is only 655watts total, 655 / 2 = 327.5watts @ 18"... halos pareho ng naka Stereo mode ka. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on May 31, 2010, 05:31:50 AM
If you have a pair (2pcs.) of 18" assuming 8ohms each x 2 then that will only be 4ohms load... so in Parallel-Mono mode that is only 655watts total, 655 / 2 = 327.5watts @ 18"... halos pareho ng naka Stereo mode ka. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:



true, if and only if your woofers can maintain a constant 8 ohms load.  most speakers have published nominal rating of 8 ohms.  but this is just the 'expected' impedance.  in most cases,  the impedance can go as low as 6, 5.5 or even 5 ohms especially when you play those loud, bass frequencies.   :-o  so if a pair of 18" with impedances at 5 ohms each for example, at parallel connection, can go as low as 2.5 ohms, then the 'parallel-mono' mode which i discussed earlier is the safer config to drive your 18" woofers. 

one of many reasons why i still love crown amps.  :-D

hope this helps.  :-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on May 31, 2010, 02:20:43 PM
hindi ba underpower ang crown powerbase2 for subs?  although we tried this series before at 'parallel-mono' mode to max it out and magic!  :lol:

this is how it's done:

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/parallelmode-1.jpg)

at basic stereo mode,  the pb2 is rated at 325w into 8 ohms per channel.  but at 'parallel-mono' mode,  the pb2 can unleash 920w into 2 ohms.  therefore, if you have a pair of 18", then you can expect at least 460w (920w / 2) to go to every speaker.

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/powerbase2specs-1.jpg)

take note that this old powerbase series has a damping factor of >1000. so expect better bass response.  8-)

SiR, ganit0 yunG set-up ng isanG frend namin.  Gamit nYa ay cr0wn mt1200. Pinag-dadrive sa 1 pares na subs gamit c18 650.  Malakas pa mag baSS sa CA18 hehehe. NakA-paraLLel mon0  :lol:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lighttech on May 31, 2010, 11:42:14 PM
If you have a pair (2pcs.) of 18" assuming 8ohms each x 2 then that will only be 4ohms load... so in Parallel-Mono mode that is only 655watts total, 655 / 2 = 327.5watts @ 18"... halos pareho ng naka Stereo mode ka. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:



i agree with this one.. unless the 18 inchers are 4 ohms each. and regarding damping factor, to get most of greater than 1000 damping factor, the speakers must be connected directly to the amps output terminal, without using speaker cables. :-)  add a few meters of typical speaker cable and the thousands damping factor goes down to a little more than a hundred.   the speaker cable's gauge and length play a more significant role than the amps damping factor rating. here's an article regarding damping factor.. http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/damping_factor/
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on June 01, 2010, 12:22:55 AM
and regarding damping factor, to get most of greater than 1000 damping factor, the speakers must be connected directly to the amps output terminal, without using speaker cables. :-)  add a few meters of typical speaker cable and the thousands damping factor goes down to a little more than a hundred.   the speaker cable's gauge and length play a more significant role than the amps damping factor rating. here's an article regarding damping factor.. http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/damping_factor/

thanks for sharing about 'damping factor' on power amplifiers.  i got mine to share with an easy to read short article on this topic:

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/DampingFactor.jpg)

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on June 01, 2010, 08:20:29 AM
thanks for sharing about 'damping factor' on power amplifiers.  i got mine to share with an easy to read short article on this topic:

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/DampingFactor.jpg)


+1.  Thanks Sir Jef for this one.  I have been a QSC fanatic since the days of the MX series.  I now use the RMX series and I still salute QSC's performance especially for the highs and mids.  I'm using the RMX4050 for the lows. 

Despite of my loyalty to QSC,  I still agree that Crown amps are known to deliver better bass response since of its high damping factor.  As a matter of fact,  we compared my RMX4050 with the Crown MA2402 (only).  My RMX4050 is rated at 800 watts at 8 ohms stereo with a damping factor of >250, while the Crown MA2402 is rated at 520 watts at 8 ohms stereo with a >1000 damping factor.  Yung natest namin,  with the same set of subs, mas malakas bumayo yung sa Crown MA2402  :-o.  "Chest thumping" bass as the old saying goes, pag Crown ang ginamit especially the MA series. Very stable pa ang Crown amps when you do parallel connections.  In paper,  4ohms ang results when you do parallel connection on two 8ohms speaker.  But speakers especially the 18 inch woofers do go really low on their impedance lalo na sa lower frequencies (based on what I read din sa ibang articles). 

Lastly,  I really agree with the article above that HIGH DAMPING FACTOR EQUALS TIGHT BASS.  :-)  :-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lighttech on June 01, 2010, 06:49:54 PM
while i agree that crown amps are better for subs duty, i think that its not their high damping factor that primarily give them the edge. i think it's their more robust power reserve (better power traffos and bigger psu caps). with the same speaker setup with 8meter long awg#10 cable, crown amp with DF of 1000 will have a resulting DF of 137. while QSC with DF of 250 will have a DF of 97. thus the DF disparity will not be that great. thus i think its the better psu of crown amps that gives us our  chest thumping bass we love from our crown amps.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on June 01, 2010, 11:02:21 PM
+1.  Thanks Sir Jef for this one.  I have been a QSC fanatic since the days of the MX series.  I now use the RMX series and I still salute QSC's performance especially for the highs and mids.  I'm using the RMX4050 for the lows. 

Despite of my loyalty to QSC,  I still agree that Crown amps are known to deliver better bass response since of its high damping factor.  As a matter of fact,  we compared my RMX4050 with the Crown MA2402 (only).  My RMX4050 is rated at 800 watts at 8 ohms stereo with a damping factor of >250, while the Crown MA2402 is rated at 520 watts at 8 ohms stereo with a >1000 damping factor.  Yung natest namin,  with the same set of subs, mas malakas bumayo yung sa Crown MA2402  :-o.  "Chest thumping" bass as the old saying goes, pag Crown ang ginamit especially the MA series. Very stable pa ang Crown amps when you do parallel connections.  In paper,  4ohms ang results when you do parallel connection on two 8ohms speaker.  But speakers especially the 18 inch woofers do go really low on their impedance lalo na sa lower frequencies (based on what I read din sa ibang articles). 

Lastly,  I really agree with the article above that HIGH DAMPING FACTOR EQUALS TIGHT BASS.  :-)  :-)

+1.  My Peavey PV3800 has a damping factor of >500 (20Hz to 1kHz), 775 watts (8 ohms) and 1300 (4 ohms).  Compared to a Crown 2400, I go a bit sad.  :oops: 
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Glennox on July 28, 2010, 10:04:14 PM

ACM-M21200 Professional Power Amplifier

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200.jpg)

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200b.jpg)


SPECIFICATION:

Rated power bridge mode 8 Ohms    3600Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (2 X4 Ohms):    1800 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D. both channels driven
Rated power (2 X 8 Ohms):    1200 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D.both channels driven
Power bandwidth:    20 Hz - 20kHz; +0, -0.5 dB at rated 500 Watts 8 Ohm power
T.H.D.(2 X 4 Ohms):    <0.05%@900 Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
T.H.D.(2 X 8 Ohms):    <0.05%@600Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
Minimum load impedance:    2 Ohms
Maximum RMS voltage swing:    110Volts
Frequency response:    10 Hz - 50 kHz; +0, -3 dB at 1 Watt
Input CMRR:    >-65 dB @ 1 kHz
Rated power (1 X 4 Ohms):    1980 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (1 X 8 Ohms):    1300 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Phase response:    +20 to -25 from 20 Hz to 20 kHz
Input impedance:    20 k Ohms, balanced; 10k Ohms, unbalanced
Cooling:    Tow temperature dependant variable speed 120mm high output DC fans
Controls:    Two front panel attenuators, rear panel mode switch and gain select switch
Voltage gain:    0.775V, 32 dB or 26 dB
Crosstalk:    >-60 dB @ 1 kHz at rated power @ 8 Ohms
Hum and noise:    >-104 dB, "A" weighted referenced to rated power @ 8 Ohms
Slew rate:    >25V/us
Damping factor (8 Ohms):    >800:1 @ 20Hz - 1 kHz
Indicator LEDs:    2 Clip,2 signal presence, 2 active status, 2Protection
Protection:    Thermal, DC, turn-on bursts, incorrect loads
Connectors:    XLR, Speakon and Binding Post speaker output,
240/230 Volt 20 amp IEC mains
Construction:    16 ga. Steel
Dimensions:    132mm x 483 mm x 498 mm
Net weight:    36kg
Gross weight:    39kg

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Go ako dito!..for me mas malakas pa sa Crell CA20..ewan ko lang sa Crell CA25 . . .,, :wink:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: gribox on July 29, 2010, 03:12:16 PM
mga sirs!!
how about
crown CS 1000
maganda rin ba gamitin to?


Specification   
                                CROWN              CS-550    CS-1000
Rated Power
(1Khz, THD+N=0.1%)   8 ohm stereo   2x550W   2x1000W
   4 ohm stereo   2x820W   2x1500W
   2 ohm stereo   2x1100W   2x1950W
   8 ohm bridge   1600W   3000W
   4 ohm bridge   2100W   3900W
Protection   DC Protect   1.5V
   Short circuit protect   limit the input signal, relay open, lock the amplifier
   High temperature protect   105° C
   Current inrush protect   AC 25A   AC 30A
   Input overload protect (limiter)   6V   9V
   Output overload protect   1 ohm
   Soft startup protect   2 seconds
Frequency response (1W 8 ohm stereo)   20Hz~20KHz (+/-1dB)
Sensitivity (8 ohm stereo & 1Khz)   1.0V
Mode   Stereo / Parallel / Bridge
Fan speed regulation   Two Speed
Connectors
(Each Channel)    Input connectors   Female XLR + Male XLR
   Output connectors   Binding-post + Speaker Connector   3 x Speaker Connector
Filter capability   10000uf/63Vx12   1000uf/100Vx12
Input Impedance    Balanced   20K
   Unbalanced   10K
Crosstalk (20Hz~20KHz, rated power 8 ohm)   ≥ 60db
S/N ratio (8 ohm, rated power 8 ohm)   ≥ 100db
Damping Factor   >300   >700
Intermodulation distortion   ≤ 0.5%
Total harmonic distortion
(20Hz~20KHz rated power, 8 ohm)   ≤ 0.5%
Phase response (1W, 8 ohm 20Hz~20KHz)   Within 30
Slew rate   ≥ 25V/us
Output circuitry   Class AB   Class H
Dimension (WxHxD)   482 x 88 x 437 mm   482 x 132 x 4887mm
Net Weight   19.4 Kg   42 Kg
Power Supply   220V / 50 ~ 60 Hz
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Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: TECHEXTREME on August 04, 2010, 10:16:24 AM
Bro, matagal na yung fane 18inch ko.  I bought them before (on sale) Php 10000 each at JB.  They sounded ok except when the coil gets busted, there are no parts available.  :x

Check this out http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,163602.25.html
gud day sir, kami na po ang bagong supplier ng fane, kumpleto po teyo sa support if you need.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: edelprince1078 on August 09, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
Gamit ko sa sub CROWN CS1300 na china, ok naman sya 2 years ko na gamit sya, 4 ohms load ko per channel sa subscope......mura lang around 30k lng......sa raon....
kapag speaker cabs o box kailangan nyo un mga taga dito sa south luzon try nyo pagawa kay rey maleon RMC ng candelaria quezon, sabhihn nyo lng kung ano gusto nyo box type at may mga sukat na sya..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: my_legacy on August 11, 2010, 12:04:46 PM
ako am using Tasso i12 for quite long time now,pinag compare ko yun qsc-ex4000 ko, Crell CA16, Sound standard MA3600 at Soundpower A10, iba talaga ang lakas at quality na binibgay ng amp.kahit 8ohms load at 4 ohms load ok lang sa kanya.

1,500 watts sa 8ohms
2,400 watts sa 4ohms
4,800 watts sa Bridge

Heres the link http://www.tassoaudio.com/product.asp?classid=46&depth=1&rootid=6&parentid=
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Leonart on August 11, 2010, 02:24:08 PM
ako am using Tasso i12 for quite long time now,pinag compare ko yun qsc-ex4000 ko, Crell CA16, Sound standard MA3600 at Soundpower A10, iba talaga ang lakas at quality na binibgay ng amp.kahit 8ohms load at 4 ohms load ok lang sa kanya.

1,500 watts sa 8ohms
2,400 watts sa 4ohms
4,800 watts sa Bridge

Heres the link http://www.tassoaudio.com/product.asp?classid=46&depth=1&rootid=6&parentid=

      CRELL CA16
# 1000W 8ohms stereo power
# 1800W 4ohms stereo power
# 3000W 8ohms bridge power

QSC EX 4000
# 800W 8ohms stereo power
# 1100W 4ohms stereo power
# 2400W 8ohms Mono bridge power

Parang hindi naman comparable ang wattage ng CRELL CA16 at QSX EX4000 sa Tasso i12 dahil ang layo ng wattage ng bawat isa sir eh.  :-D CRELL CA25 ang Pangtapat diyan sa Tasso i12  :-) 
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mackie on August 11, 2010, 04:20:34 PM
Here is what Im using FP 13000 driving my 186s with SD18EL: 
2350w RMS/ch at 8ohms, max rail voltage 195v, 8 steps output voltage selectable via dip switch with original Onsemi transistors


(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq360/darfdale/IMG_6532.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: my_legacy on August 13, 2010, 12:05:08 PM
      CRELL CA16
# 1000W 8ohms stereo power
# 1800W 4ohms stereo power
# 3000W 8ohms bridge power

QSC EX 4000
# 800W 8ohms stereo power
# 1100W 4ohms stereo power
# 2400W 8ohms Mono bridge power

Parang hindi naman comparable ang wattage ng CRELL CA16 at QSX EX4000 sa Tasso i12 dahil ang layo ng wattage ng bawat isa sir eh.  :-D CRELL CA25 ang Pangtapat diyan sa Tasso i12  :-) 


Actually what am pointing out here is, going back to the orig question what is the best amplifier for sub woofer, my answer is just base on my observation with regards to my 4 power amp that I used before for subwoofer, Tasso i12 is much better actually its not only the wattages that matter...May gawa na speaker na ok sa kanya ang mababang wattage lang pag kinargahan mo ng mataas na wattage nabubulunan. Hindi lang pataasan ng wattage ang labanan dyan kundi kung match ba ang speaker mo sa amp at kung anong klase ng makina meron ang power amp mo na pangda drive sa sub.peace :lol:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on August 14, 2010, 07:14:50 AM
Here is what Im using FP 13000 driving my 186s with SD18EL: 
2350w RMS/ch at 8ohms, max rail voltage 195v, 8 steps output voltage selectable via dip switch with original Onsemi transistors


(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq360/darfdale/IMG_6532.jpg)

magkano kuha mo sa amp mo sir?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: gieforce on August 16, 2010, 12:44:09 AM
+1 sa Lab Gruppen AMPS...
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on August 16, 2010, 07:09:34 AM
Here is what Im using FP 13000 driving my 186s with SD18EL:  
2350w RMS/ch at 8ohms, max rail voltage 195v, 8 steps output voltage selectable via dip switch with original Onsemi transistors


(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq360/darfdale/IMG_6532.jpg)
 Sir mackie,,,,napansin ko dito sa volume ng amps mo nakasagad sya. ako kc steady lng sa 1/2 ang volume ng mga amps ko at sa mixer nlang ako tumotudo ng volume, pag nakasagad ang volume ng amps so konting volume mo lng sa mixer eh malakas na,,ano kya ang maganda at tamang  pag volume ng mga amps  .censya na sir newbie lng kc ako sa sounds....maybe mayroong mga magaling dito na mag share din ng kanilang opinion..thanks,,,,gamit ko nga pala na power amps crell ca25 at Ma10
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: maestro_dese_8 on August 16, 2010, 06:21:42 PM
gud day sir, kami na po ang bagong supplier ng fane, kumpleto po teyo sa support if you need.
sir magkanu fane colosus 18 inch
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mackie on August 16, 2010, 11:23:37 PM
 Sir mackie,,,,napansin ko dito sa volume ng amps mo nakasagad sya. ako kc steady lng sa 1/2 ang volume ng mga amps ko at sa mixer nlang ako tumotudo ng volume, pag nakasagad ang volume ng amps so konting volume mo lng sa mixer eh malakas na,,ano kya ang maganda at tamang  pag volume ng mga amps  .censya na sir newbie lng kc ako sa sounds....maybe mayroong mga magaling dito na mag share din ng kanilang opinion..thanks,,,,gamit ko nga pala na power amps crell ca25 at Ma10

Its better to always always turn the power amp knob to max. Hindi sya volume control, its just simply an atenuator. kahit nasa kalahati lang sya at nilargahan mo naman sa mixer e ganun din, ibibigay din nya yung kanyang power na parang nakatodo sya. I would always put it on max para maluwag syang bumuga, just control it on the mixer according to the volume you want.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: sikyo on August 17, 2010, 12:14:49 AM
Its better to always always turn the power amp knob to max. Hindi sya volume control, its just simply an atenuator. kahit nasa kalahati lang sya at nilargahan mo naman sa mixer e ganun din, ibibigay din nya yung kanyang power na parang nakatodo sya. I would always put it on max para maluwag syang bumuga, just control it on the mixer according to the volume you want.





sir, wouldn't this practice be contrary to common gain structure suggestion here and in other forums to run the board near hot or hot and the power amps modulated as needed? mali po ba ako?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on August 17, 2010, 06:03:09 AM
Its better to always always turn the power amp knob to max. Hindi sya volume control, its just simply an atenuator. kahit nasa kalahati lang sya at nilargahan mo naman sa mixer e ganun din, ibibigay din nya yung kanyang power na parang nakatodo sya. I would always put it on max para maluwag syang bumuga, just control it on the mixer according to the volume you want.
Ahh  ganon pala yon,,thanks sir..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: silentset on August 17, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
magandang umaga mga sir, hingi po ko ng advice nyo kung ano pong subwoofer ang magandang imatch ko sa power amplifier na Yamaha P7000s, ano po watts and impedance ang dapat ko bilin para ma-maximize ko ang power ng amplifier ko? Balak ko po kc ung T&T or ung neusch, ipapares ko po to sa nasimulan ko nang setup ngayon, meron po kc ako ngayon dual 15" (450 watts + 450 watts + 1 crown horn), 1200 watts po ang total per box (trapezoid), gamit ko po Konzert K8, gusto ko mga sir na simulan na to at magamit sa mga maliliit na events, mga covered type. Ano po ba box ng sub ang kailangan ko gamitin? sana po ay matulungan nyo ko, maraming salamat po at God bless po sa ating lahat at sa Philmusic.

Yamaha P7000s
http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/products/power_amps/p7000s/specifications.html
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ebadilles on September 20, 2010, 04:31:31 PM
Hi to all I'm new here,
I need help regarding my amp yamaha p7000s, it specify 230v 50hz only. im here in UK, If I bring this amp to the philippines and plug it to a 220v 60hz, I know it will work, but in a long run what will happen? Is it gonna damage my amp? pls need your advice.
Many thanks
Edwin
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dhonz on September 21, 2010, 09:23:19 AM
I tried the Peavey pv3800 power amp for my dual 18 subs.  So far it's been a good amp.  I bought it from audiophile pioneer branch last year.  It's around 41k (discounted).

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3047/pv3800.jpg)


ok rin bang gumamit ng peavey pv2000 amp sino na po nakagamit ni2
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dhonz on September 21, 2010, 09:24:31 AM
I tried the Peavey pv3800 power amp for my dual 18 subs.  So far it's been a good amp.  I bought it from audiophile pioneer branch last year.  It's around 41k (discounted).

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3047/pv3800.jpg)


ok rin bang gumamit ng peavey pv2000 amp sino na po nakagamit ni2
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dhonz on September 21, 2010, 09:29:14 AM
SIR OK RIN BA PEAVEY PV 2000 AMPS OLD MODEL NA DAW I2
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: TECHEXTREME on September 21, 2010, 10:13:33 AM
sir magkanu fane colosus 18 inch
gud day sir, tawag lang po kayo 957-1261. tnx.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: septoclens on October 20, 2010, 05:19:15 AM
Quote
SIR OK RIN BA PEAVEY PV 2000 AMPS OLD MODEL NA DAW I2

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7282/pv2000amppeavey.jpg)

meron nagbebenta sa kin ng ganito amp, galing US, wala naman paggagamitan yung me ari.. kayo gusto na nya idispose..
sa tingin nyo ba mga masters, kunin ko? para nga lang namamahalan kasi ako, 15K.. pede nb to?

ok po ba tong pang sub?
salamat sa inyo!

-noypi-
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: septoclens on October 26, 2010, 01:12:56 AM
up lang po! :mrgreen:

-noypi-
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on October 26, 2010, 08:10:56 AM
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7282/pv2000amppeavey.jpg)

meron nagbebenta sa kin ng ganito amp, galing US, wala naman paggagamitan yung me ari.. kayo gusto na nya idispose..
sa tingin nyo ba mga masters, kunin ko? para nga lang namamahalan kasi ako, 15K.. pede nb to?

ok po ba tong pang sub?
salamat sa inyo!

-noypi-

ok na ok na yan sa 15k sir.. pero mas ok pa if may tawad pa..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: septoclens on October 26, 2010, 01:10:16 PM
Quote
ok na ok na yan sa 15k sir.. pero mas ok pa if may tawad pa..

sa katunayan e 20K sya binibigay ng me-ari, tinawaran ko lang.. sana nga makuha ko pa ng mas mababa e..
hehehe!

tnx ah! ok n rin b tong pang sub?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on October 26, 2010, 02:30:03 PM
sa katunayan e 20K sya binibigay ng me-ari, tinawaran ko lang.. sana nga makuha ko pa ng mas mababa e..
hehehe!

tnx ah! ok n rin b tong pang sub?

Bro, this amp has a power rating of 400 watts (at 8 ohms) per channel only.  It may not push those power hungry 18" woofers.  :oops: :oops:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on October 26, 2010, 02:44:53 PM
@ septoclens

Why not try the Crown LPS 2500?  It's around 17thou and it's slightly more powerful than the Peavey PV2000.  Ganda din ng reviews nito.

Try to check this link: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,171665.0.html

They have this "bridge mono" config for the subs.  You can read it there.  :-) :-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: septoclens on October 26, 2010, 03:51:07 PM
@king james - salamat sa info.. parang gusto ko rin tong Crown na to e... very affordable ika nga! hehehe!

pro d po ba mas lamang ang PV2000 kesa sa LPs2500?

di po ako masyadong marunong sa specs.. tama po ba na mas me power tong PV2000 kapag naka bridge?

SPECIFICATIONS
Output Power2J:______________________________PV-2000
2 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________1000 W RMS per channel
4 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________700 W RMS per channel
8 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________400 W RMS per channel
Bridge mode, mono
4 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________2000 W RMS
8 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________1400 W RMS
Rated Output Power?
4 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 1% THD_______________625 W RMS per channel
8 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.1% THD_____________370 W RMS per channel

maraming salamat
-noypi-

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on October 26, 2010, 05:14:42 PM
@king james - salamat sa info.. parang gusto ko rin tong Crown na to e... very affordable ika nga! hehehe!

pro d po ba mas lamang ang PV2000 kesa sa LPs2500?

di po ako masyadong marunong sa specs.. tama po ba na mas me power tong PV2000 kapag naka bridge?

SPECIFICATIONS
Output Power2J:______________________________PV-2000
2 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________1000 W RMS per channel
4 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________700 W RMS per channel
8 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________400 W RMS per channel
Bridge mode, mono
4 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________2000 W RMS
8 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________1400 W RMS
Rated Output Power?
4 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 1% THD_______________625 W RMS per channel
8 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.1% THD_____________370 W RMS per channel

maraming salamat
-noypi-



Bro have you read the link?  Sa nabasa ko kasi meron ng gumagamit ng Crown LPS2500 at bridge-mono to drive the PAudio SD 18el. That's a very large woofer.  No problem naman.  :-) :-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on October 26, 2010, 05:40:28 PM
Here is what Im using FP 13000 driving my 186s with SD18EL: 
2350w RMS/ch at 8ohms, max rail voltage 195v, 8 steps output voltage selectable via dip switch with original Onsemi transistors


(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq360/darfdale/IMG_6532.jpg)

Just read this one. W :-oW
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on October 26, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
@king james - salamat sa info.. parang gusto ko rin tong Crown na to e... very affordable ika nga! hehehe!

pro d po ba mas lamang ang PV2000 kesa sa LPs2500?

di po ako masyadong marunong sa specs.. tama po ba na mas me power tong PV2000 kapag naka bridge?

SPECIFICATIONS
Output Power2J:______________________________PV-2000
2 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________1000 W RMS per channel
4 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________700 W RMS per channel
8 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________400 W RMS per channel
Bridge mode, mono
4 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________2000 W RMS
8 ohms, 1 kHz, 1% THD________________________1400 W RMS
Rated Output Power?
4 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 1% THD_______________625 W RMS per channel
8 ohms, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.1% THD_____________370 W RMS per channel

maraming salamat
-noypi-



i'll go for the peavey kaysa sa crown lps series.. mas heavy duty..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Glennox on October 27, 2010, 07:51:11 PM
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7282/pv2000amppeavey.jpg)

meron nagbebenta sa kin ng ganito amp, galing US, wala naman paggagamitan yung me ari.. kayo gusto na nya idispose..
sa tingin nyo ba mga masters, kunin ko? para nga lang namamahalan kasi ako, 15K.. pede nb to?

ok po ba tong pang sub?
salamat sa inyo!

-noypi-

...Bossing pag-ipunan mo na lang kasi ang isang amp na pwedeng pwede sa subs... Masyadong underpower itong Peavey Pv2000...I'm sure ito pa ang sisira sa 18" mo dahil kakapusin ka sa power...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on October 30, 2010, 06:49:26 PM
Lifted from Sweetwater's Power Amplifier: Buying Guide

When you're matching a Power Amp to a PA Speaker, a good rule of thumb is to pick an amplifier that can deliver power equal to twice the speaker's continuous IEC power rating. This means a speaker with a "nominal impedance" of 8 ohms and a continuous IEC power rating of 350 watts will require an amplifier that can produce 700 watts into an 8-ohm load. For a stereo pair of speakers, the amplifier should be rated at 700 watts per channel into 8 ohms. A quality professional loudspeaker can handle transient peaks in excess of its rated power if the amplifier can deliver those peaks without distortion.

Using an amp with some extra "headroom" will help assure that only clean, undistorted power gets to your speakers. Some professional amplifiers are designed so they have additional headroom. These amps can cleanly reproduce transient peaks that exceed their rated power. In this case select a model with an output power rating equal to the continuous IEC power rating of the speaker. Consult the amplifier manufacturer or owner's manual to learn more.

In some applications, such as critical listening in a studio environment, it is important to maintain peak transient capability. For these applications, use an amplifier that can deliver 6db (or four times as much) more power than the continuous IEC power rating.

If budget restraints or legacy equipment force you to use an amplifier with less power, extreme care should be taken to see that the amplifier is not driven into clipping. It may surprise you to learn that low power can result in damage to your speaker or system.
 
:evil:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Max_C on November 02, 2010, 06:29:48 AM
More on amplifier power: http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?docid=246&doctype=3
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on November 05, 2010, 07:43:21 PM
Try niyo LIVE BATTLE AMP 3000 watts 800 dumping factor
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on November 06, 2010, 08:16:18 AM
Try niyo LIVE BATTLE AMP 3000 watts 800 dumping factor

Sir pakiexplain ang 3000 watts? Stereo mode or bridged mono? 8 ohms, 4 ohms or 2 ohms?  Halos naman kasi ang mga amps na gawang tsina ay medyo kaduda-duda ang specs.  :roll:  Saka anu pala meaning ng dumping factor?  :? :?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: triciaaruba on November 06, 2010, 08:48:45 AM
sino ba direct dealer ng LIVE?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on November 06, 2010, 10:23:07 AM
Sa raon si Raygin, Summitron and Masterfix ang nakita kong may power amplifier ng Live... pang 5" and 6" voice coil lang daw ang  bagay na speakers dyan... pina testing ko sa masterfixx sisw lang sa kanya ang mga 4" na voice coil. konti lang adjust ng volume umiiyak na yung speaker... ibang  sound ng battle amp..malakas talaga ang damping factor :-D
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: RevTech on November 06, 2010, 11:05:01 AM
Sa raon si Raygin, Summitron and Masterfix ang nakita kong may power amplifier ng Live... pang 5" and 6" voice coil lang daw ang  bagay na speakers dyan... pina testing ko sa masterfixx sisw lang sa kanya ang mga 4" na voice coil. konti lang adjust ng volume umiiyak na yung speaker... ibang  sound ng battle amp..malakas talaga ang damping factor :-D
nasa magkano sya?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on November 06, 2010, 01:06:49 PM
1800 watts 8 ohms
3000 watts 4 ohms
6000 watts 2 ohms

800 dumping factor ( jolt ) matindi ito mga bro
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: luffy on November 06, 2010, 03:43:21 PM
Sa raon si Raygin, Summitron and Masterfix ang nakita kong may power amplifier ng Live... pang 5" and 6" voice coil lang daw ang  bagay na speakers dyan... pina testing ko sa masterfixx sisw lang sa kanya ang mga 4" na voice coil. konti lang adjust ng volume umiiyak na yung speaker... ibang  sound ng battle amp..malakas talaga ang damping factor :-D

stable po ba sir sa 2 ohms? kaya na 8x18" 5"VC na speakers? :-o
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on November 06, 2010, 04:35:57 PM
1800 watts 8 ohms
3000 watts 4 ohms
6000 watts 2 ohms

800 dumping factor ( jolt ) matindi ito mga bro
abay matindi nga iyan at tyak na matindi din ang price nya hehe ,magkano ba yan bossing,,
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Glennox on November 06, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
...Sa experience namin pag may bagong labas na power amp sa market , laging binobroadcast na ito daw ang pinakamalakas na power amp at stable lagi sa 2 ohms loading...,, :roll:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: constantpressure on November 06, 2010, 07:23:56 PM
Damping Factor...ito ay ang kakayahan ng amplifier para labanan ang ano mang impluwensiya mula sa Back EMF(ElectroMagneticForce).

Kadalasan ang Amplifier kapag kayang humak ng mababang karga (2Ω) ay mas mataas na DF(Damping Factor).

Pero habang humahaba ang speaker wire ito ay makabawas sa DF.
Kaya mas mainam gumamit ng Twisted speaker wire or gumawa ng twisted cable at mas mainam kung maigsi lang lang ang mga ito. Ito ay makakatulong lumaban sa Back EMF sa dahilang sila ay nakakansela sa paka-twisted nag wire.

Magandang araw,
jojo
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on November 06, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
Damping Factor...ito ay ang kakayahan ng amplifier para labanan ang ano mang impluwensiya mula sa Back EMF(ElectroMagneticForce).

Kadalasan ang Amplifier kapag kayang humak ng mababang karga (2Ω) ay mas mataas na DF(Damping Factor).

Pero habang humahaba ang speaker wire ito ay makabawas sa DF.
Kaya mas mainam gumamit ng Twisted speaker wire or gumawa ng twisted cable at mas mainam kung maigsi lang lang ang mga ito. Ito ay makakatulong lumaban sa Back EMF sa dahilang sila ay nakakansela sa paka-twisted nag wire.

Magandang araw,
jojo
sir kadalasan ang mga ginagamit ng mga rental groups ngaun sa kanilang speaker wire ay ung royal cable ano po ang masasabi nyo dito.at d ko po gaano maunawaan ung twisted wire ,kasi sa mga nakikita ko n ginagamit sa speaker ay ung flat wire at royal cable ,,any pics of twisted wire pls,thnks
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: jtb on November 07, 2010, 02:14:27 AM
 Sir, ang alam ko po eh "twisted" wire na rin yung royal cable. gawa ito sa maraming strands ng individual copper wire
 na twisted together to form a bigger wire. correct me if I'm wrong mga sirs.

 sa power amps, napansin ko lang, madalas specified din ang power rating sa 2-ohm load..
 advisable po ba na i-connect ang speakers this way? parang masyado na yatang mababa
 ang impedance kapag ganito.  :lol:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: constantpressure on November 07, 2010, 06:28:45 AM
Twisted Speaker Wire...and some industrial royal cord are twisted, used in communication and broadcasting.

(http://9vraag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH5oBDIZjm2jKC4-MP4DXvkZp2wKwVldV994V9a9nZQT7V0b8na1zO_0-lrZs0SPtChzGAQrutxyC8wh2hOmYXG6peQDXFqf7/funktion3.jpg?psid=1)

Twisted stranded single wire ay walang kakayahang mag kansela ng EMI sa dahilang iisa lang ang daan o directions ng mga hibla(strands) kailangan daan isang Papunta(Forward) at isang Parating (Return), para epektibo ang pagkansela ay isang pares ng no. 16 stranded wire ito ay naka twist ng counter clockwise.

Para mas epektibong paraan gumawa ng 4 way twisting...kaso magastos nga lang at matrabaho.

Kung titingnan ang Impedance Curve ng mga speakers ang sukat nito ay mababa pagdating sa mabababang frequency tulad ng 40Hz hangang 20Hz...Importanteng may kakayahan ang isang amplifier na magdala ng ganitong impedance loading. Kaya kapag ng load ka ng 2Ω may possibilidad na mas baba ang impedance nito dipended sa lawak frequency na ipinatrabaho (Bandwidth) .

magandang araw,
jojo

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on November 07, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
Twisted Speaker Wire...and some industrial royal cord are twisted, used in communication and broadcasting.

(http://9vraag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pH5oBDIZjm2jKC4-MP4DXvkZp2wKwVldV994V9a9nZQT7V0b8na1zO_0-lrZs0SPtChzGAQrutxyC8wh2hOmYXG6peQDXFqf7/funktion3.jpg?psid=1)

Twisted stranded single wire ay walang kakayahang mag kansela ng EMI sa dahilang iisa lang ang daan o directions ng mga hibla(strands) kailangan daan isang Papunta(Forward) at isang Parating (Return), para epektibo ang pagkansela ay isang pares ng no. 16 stranded wire ito ay naka twist ng counter clockwise.

Para mas epektibong paraan gumawa ng 4 way twisting...kaso magastos nga lang at matrabaho.

Kung titingnan ang Impedance Curve ng mga speakers ang sukat nito ay mababa pagdating sa mabababang frequency tulad ng 40Hz hangang 20Hz...Importanteng may kakayahan ang isang amplifier na magdala ng ganitong impedance loading. Kaya kapag ng load ka ng 2Ω may possibilidad na mas baba ang impedance nito dipended sa lawak frequency na ipinatrabaho (Bandwidth) .

magandang araw,
jojo


ahh ganon pala yon ,salamat sa paliwanag sir,,
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on November 07, 2010, 10:38:17 AM
...Sa experience namin pag may bagong labas na power amp sa market , laging binobroadcast na ito daw ang pinakamalakas na power amp at stable lagi sa 2 ohms loading...,,





Try niyo sir para malaman niyo na malakas talaga
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on November 07, 2010, 10:40:08 AM
stable po ba sir sa 2 ohms? kaya na 8x18" 5"VC na speakers? :-o

advisable talaga na 4pcs na 18" 5" coil or 6" coil pag gumamit daw ng battle amp 1.0... nakapag testing kasi ng mga branded na voice coil and kadalasan 4.7 to 5.3 ohms ang mga voice coils nila.. try nyo i kabit ng Sub 18.5 sa battle amp parang 8pcs na rin speaker ang tunog nito :-D
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: stoney73 on November 07, 2010, 03:37:08 PM
Sir pakiexplain ang 3000 watts? Stereo mode or bridged mono? 8 ohms, 4 ohms or 2 ohms?  Halos naman kasi ang mga amps na gawang tsina ay medyo kaduda-duda ang specs.  :roll:  Saka anu pala meaning ng dumping factor?  :? :?

I think this has been discussed before on another thread and please take note it's DAMPING factor and not dumping.

Lifted from Sweetwater's Power Amplifier: Buying Guide

Damping Factor Demystified
Loudspeakers have a mind of their own. You send them a signal and they add their own twist to it. They keep on vibrating after the signal has stopped, due to inertia. That's called "ringing" or "time smearing." In other words, the speaker produces sound waves that are not part of the original signal. Suppose the incoming signal is a "tight" kick drum with a short attack and decay in its signal envelope. When the kick drum signal stops, the speaker continues to vibrate. The cone bounces back and forth in its suspension. So that nice, snappy kick drum turns into a booming throb. Fortunately, a power amplifier can exert control over the loudspeaker and reduce ringing. Damping is the ability of a power amplifier to control loudspeaker motion. It’s measured in Damping Factor, which is load impedance divided by amplifier output impedance. Let’s explain. If the speaker impedance is 8 ohms, and the amplifier output impedance is 0.01 ohms, the damping factor is 800. That’s a simplification. Since the speaker impedance and amplifier output impedance vary with frequency, so does the damping factor. Also, the impedance of the speaker cable affects damping. Thick cables (with low AWG) allow more damping than thin cables with (high AWG). The lower the amplifier’s output impedance, the higher the damping factor, and the tighter the sound is. A damping factor of 1000 or greater is considered high. As you might suspect, damping factor is most important at low frequencies, say 10 Hz to 400 Hz. High damping factor equals tight bass.

- How It Works
How does an amplifier control speaker motion? When the loudspeaker cone vibrates, it acts like a microphone, generating a signal from its voice coil. This signal generated by the speaker is called back EMF (back Electro Motive Force). It creates a current, which travels through the speaker cable back into the amplifier output, then returns to the speaker. Since back EMF is in opposite polarity with the speaker’s motion, back EMF impedes or damps the speaker’s ringing. The smaller the amplifier output impedance, the greater is the effect of back EMF on the speaker’s motion. An amplifier with low output impedance short-circuits the back EMF, so the back EMF drives the loudspeaker with a relatively strong current that works against the speaker’s motion. When the speaker cone moves out, the back EMF pulls the speaker in, and vice versa.

In short, the loudspeaker damps itself through the amplifier output circuitry. The lower the impedance of that output circuitry, the more the back EMF can control the speaker’s ringing.

 :evil:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Colder than iCe on June 01, 2011, 04:30:32 PM

ACM-M21200 Professional Power Amplifier

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200.jpg)

(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad163/CodeOne_01/M21200b.jpg)


SPECIFICATION:

Rated power bridge mode 8 Ohms    3600Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (2 X4 Ohms):    1800 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D. both channels driven
Rated power (2 X 8 Ohms):    1200 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D.both channels driven
Power bandwidth:    20 Hz - 20kHz; +0, -0.5 dB at rated 500 Watts 8 Ohm power
T.H.D.(2 X 4 Ohms):    <0.05%@900 Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
T.H.D.(2 X 8 Ohms):    <0.05%@600Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
Minimum load impedance:    2 Ohms
Maximum RMS voltage swing:    110Volts
Frequency response:    10 Hz - 50 kHz; +0, -3 dB at 1 Watt
Input CMRR:    >-65 dB @ 1 kHz
Rated power (1 X 4 Ohms):    1980 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (1 X 8 Ohms):    1300 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Phase response:    +20 to -25 from 20 Hz to 20 kHz
Input impedance:    20 k Ohms, balanced; 10k Ohms, unbalanced
Cooling:    Tow temperature dependant variable speed 120mm high output DC fans
Controls:    Two front panel attenuators, rear panel mode switch and gain select switch
Voltage gain:    0.775V, 32 dB or 26 dB
Crosstalk:    >-60 dB @ 1 kHz at rated power @ 8 Ohms
Hum and noise:    >-104 dB, "A" weighted referenced to rated power @ 8 Ohms
Slew rate:    >25V/us
Damping factor (8 Ohms):    >800:1 @ 20Hz - 1 kHz
Indicator LEDs:    2 Clip,2 signal presence, 2 active status, 2Protection
Protection:    Thermal, DC, turn-on bursts, incorrect loads
Connectors:    XLR, Speakon and Binding Post speaker output,
240/230 Volt 20 amp IEC mains
Construction:    16 ga. Steel
Dimensions:    132mm x 483 mm x 498 mm
Net weight:    36kg
Gross weight:    39kg

[/b][/b][/b]


mga sir, saan kaya ako makakabili nito? and ang how much kaya ito sa market?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: N1X on June 02, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
we used this amp crown power base 2, sa sub
(http://www.immusical.com/crownpb1.jpg)

SIMPLY THE BEST
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on June 02, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
SIMPLY THE BEST
the best(",) ayun na benta ko yung apat na gayan ko, yung MA2400 at MA2402 naiwan still a best choice :)

looking for more Crown MA's :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on June 02, 2011, 03:41:20 PM
(http://multiply.com/mu/alexiesound/image/1/photos/47/600x600/43/DSCF2977.jpg?et=ohT5jdMva15F5PZhkCW%2B2g&nmid=433785210)

iba talaga pag crown  :-)

more MA VZ to come :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on June 02, 2011, 04:52:13 PM
Mga Sir, try nyo yun Soundquest CA series. almost 3 years na sa market. So far wala pang kami natatangap na repair.

(http://images02.olx.com.ph/ui/13/42/38/1299044168_171823438_2-Sound-Quest-power-Amplifier-Manila.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Colder than iCe on June 02, 2011, 07:22:07 PM
Mga Sir, try nyo yun Soundquest CA series. almost 3 years na sa market. So far wala pang kami natatangap na repair.

(http://images02.olx.com.ph/ui/13/42/38/1299044168_171823438_2-Sound-Quest-power-Amplifier-Manila.jpg)



brod, san makakabili nito? taga Bulacan pa kasi ako. thanks. :-D
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on June 02, 2011, 08:38:16 PM
Mga sir wait for the new battle amp using motorolla power transistor more power than before
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lighttech on June 03, 2011, 01:48:27 PM
Mga sir wait for the new battle amp using motorolla power transistor more power than before

motorola sir? wow, original bang motorola ang nakatatak sa mga transistors?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dakilangpatricio on June 03, 2011, 03:54:22 PM
sir pwde ba ako kuha battle amp hulugan? heheheh
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Max_C on June 03, 2011, 04:39:18 PM
QSC AT CROWN ANG SUBOK NA. KAHIT ILANG DEKADA NA, MATAAS PA DIN ANG RESALE VALUE.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on June 04, 2011, 02:00:15 PM

brod, san makakabili nito? taga Bulacan pa kasi ako. thanks. :-D

Maraming Dealer sa Raon, Praiselight (734-4258), Stagepoint (735-4452).

Mounumento Area. Jeff (0910-3258494) (666-4593)

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on June 04, 2011, 09:12:58 PM
If you wanna hear the real output power of your 18" woofers, try the QSC RMX5050. We normally bring 4 cabs for our lows connected to one Rmx5050 and it's always enough for our gigs - medium to almost large size venues.    8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on June 04, 2011, 09:20:28 PM
Yes sa mga branded malakas ang rmx 5050 sa bass.. May ilan ako nakikita gumagamit  sa iloilo pag may battle....
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dakilangpatricio on June 05, 2011, 12:58:47 AM
nasa magkano po ang QSC RMX5050 now?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on June 05, 2011, 06:01:12 AM
QSC RMX5050   :lol:

P88990 last updated price

(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab40/jolo3200/ProAudio/QSC_RMX_5050_Power_Amp.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dakilangpatricio on June 05, 2011, 07:42:06 AM
ouch . . di pa kaya. . pero very good investment. . kahit cguro ilang taon ko gamitin yan at ibenta ko in the future, mabebenta ko parin ng mahal. . hehe
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on June 05, 2011, 09:24:45 AM
QSC AT CROWN ANG SUBOK NA. KAHIT ILANG DEKADA NA, MATAAS PA DIN ANG RESALE VALUE.

Sir curious Lang ako sa sinabi mo?
 For example nabili nyo  85,000 ang qsc rmx 5050 after 3 years gusto nyo ibenta... Magkano mabebenta nyo?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: melfortes on June 18, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
try Markopilyo AMP..  :wink:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/2922931/Power+Amplifiers+for+Home+Theater%2C+Subwoofers%2C+KTV%2C+Ipods%2C+Mixers?referralKeywords=audio+mixer
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: superwup on June 18, 2011, 06:51:15 PM
These are the specs from the QSC amp, if you use this for a mobile how many amp would your generator be to have some power?

at 120V (in amperes) at typical/full/maximum output power (idle current= 1 amp)
RMX 4050HD RMX 5050
8 ohms typical= 6.4, full= 12.5, maximum= 25.5 typical= 8.7, full= 17.0, maximum= 34.4
4 ohms typical= 10.0, full= 20.1, maximum= 42.2 typical= 13.9, full= 26.9, maximum= 56.4
2 ohms typical= 14.5, full= 30.6, maximum= 65.7 typical= 18.9, full= 38.0, maximum= 84.7

This is only lets say bass, so you need at least one more for mid/ high or sometimes 2 for mid and separate high...........plus mixer, equaliser etc or driverack.............
What kind of generator you need, how many amperes to power it al up?
Most generators i see in the parade with mobiles have only 4 or 5 ampere  for all the equipment?
Can somebody  explain to me how they have everything working with a small generator?

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: EJS earthshaker on June 19, 2011, 06:04:42 PM
mga bossing okay rin ba ang M-audio amp 5000 for sd18el? ano kaya mas malakas m-a 5000 vs. live battle amp 1 para sa sd18el?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on June 19, 2011, 11:29:49 PM
Up grade battle amp coming this july more powerful bass less heat harder bass ,mayron ng sample sa master fix
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on June 24, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
mga bossing okay rin ba ang M-audio amp 5000 for sd18el? ano kaya mas malakas m-a 5000 vs. live battle amp 1 para sa sd18el?

Sir Kayang kaya ng MA-5000 yun 4 na P audio sd18el. No. 1 po sa Cebu ang M audio power amp.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: EJS earthshaker on June 24, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
Sir Kayang kaya ng MA-5000 yun 4 na P audio sd18el. No. 1 po sa Cebu ang M audio power amp.

@soundtech: nakakapag taka lang sir tahimik lang ang m-audio para tuloy akong nag aalinlangan wala man lang reviews na makikita tsaka wala masyadung gumagamit hindi nasasali sa mga discussion sa mga forums tulad nito d kagaya ng crell, soundstandard, lexus, live etc...akala ko tuloy hindi magandang klase and m-audio...

pero ayus lang wala pa nman akong naging problema sa m-audio ko nka 6 na ako pero wala pa nman major problem til now 2 yrs na mahigit...mura lang kasi compare sa sa iba and mas mataas ang power rating na nka lagay iwan kung lang kung totoo tong mga nkasulat na power ratings 1500watts sa 8 ohms ang m-audio 5000 kayang2x  rin ang 4 na live 18.5 rated 1800 watts with 5" voice coil same with sd18el nga talaga kasi 5" din and coil nya...

ang 4 na live 2000watts kaya sir 6" voice coil kakayanin kaya ng m-audio 5000?


Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on June 26, 2011, 12:14:13 AM
@soundtech: nakakapag taka lang sir tahimik lang ang m-audio para tuloy akong nag aalinlangan wala man lang reviews na makikita tsaka wala masyadung gumagamit hindi nasasali sa mga discussion sa mga forums tulad nito d kagaya ng crell, soundstandard, lexus, live etc...akala ko tuloy hindi magandang klase and m-audio...

pero ayus lang wala pa nman akong naging problema sa m-audio ko nka 6 na ako pero wala pa nman major problem til now 2 yrs na mahigit...mura lang kasi compare sa sa iba and mas mataas ang power rating na nka lagay iwan kung lang kung totoo tong mga nkasulat na power ratings 1500watts sa 8 ohms ang m-audio 5000 kayang2x  rin ang 4 na live 18.5 rated 1800 watts with 5" voice coil same with sd18el nga talaga kasi 5" din and coil nya...

ang 4 na live 2000watts kaya sir 6" voice coil kakayanin kaya ng m-audio 5000?




check the speaker's sensitivity (1 watt @ 1 meter).  18" woofer with bigger voice coils (4.5" above) tends to be less sensitive since the cone and voice coil gets heavier and thicker and the spider gets stiffer.  it tends to be 'hard-driven'. you may be required to buy a really powerful amp but it doesn't stop there.  in most cases, an 18" speaker with a 4" voice coil rated at 800 watts for example may even sound louder than a 5" voice coil 800 watts speaker since the former has better sensitivity, hence, it is not 'hard-driven'.

this is just a case in point since i tested alot of power amps in the past and i still find crown 5000vz as the most qualified to drive huge 18" woofers and it keeps your speakers safer.  but of course price is another issue.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on June 27, 2011, 12:59:16 AM
According to Ricky Gonzales ( a veteran mobile ) he tested the battle amp and crown 5000vz , battle amp is more powerful than 5000vz, But crown amp 5000vz is a very good amp but the price is very expensive.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on June 27, 2011, 02:04:57 PM
According to Ricky Gonzales ( a veteran mobile ) he tested the battle amp and crown 5000vz , battle amp is more powerful than 5000vz, But crown amp 5000vz is a very good amp but the price is very expensive.

B0z Mr. UltiMate di ba kaY0 suppLier ng BattLe amp diN?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on June 27, 2011, 03:02:38 PM
Yes kami rin supplier ng battle amp pero aminin ko talaga mahusay na amp ang crowm 5000vz
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on June 28, 2011, 02:23:06 PM
@soundtech: nakakapag taka lang sir tahimik lang ang m-audio para tuloy akong nag aalinlangan wala man lang reviews na makikita tsaka wala masyadung gumagamit hindi nasasali sa mga discussion sa mga forums tulad nito d kagaya ng crell, soundstandard, lexus, live etc...akala ko tuloy hindi magandang klase and m-audio...

pero ayus lang wala pa nman akong naging problema sa m-audio ko nka 6 na ako pero wala pa nman major problem til now 2 yrs na mahigit...mura lang kasi compare sa sa iba and mas mataas ang power rating na nka lagay iwan kung lang kung totoo tong mga nkasulat na power ratings 1500watts sa 8 ohms ang m-audio 5000 kayang2x  rin ang 4 na live 18.5 rated 1800 watts with 5" voice coil same with sd18el nga talaga kasi 5" din and coil nya...

ang 4 na live 2000watts kaya sir 6" voice coil kakayanin kaya ng m-audio 5000?




Sir, kayang kaya po ng MA-5000 ang  4 live 2000 watts 6" voice coil. ginamit din namin sa fix installation ang MA-5000 to drive 4 units of 21" turbo sound subwoofer sa isang bar dito sa manila.


BTW thanks for using m-audio power amp.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on June 28, 2011, 03:17:04 PM
Sir soundtech anong size ng voice coil mo sa 21 and how many db?  and indoor and outdoor is not same Coz yung crell ca25 medyo hirap sa battle18 ,Yan ang mga sinabi nang naka bili ng battle18 yung ma5000 mas malakas pa sa crell ca25? Pano mo masasabi na kaya ng ma5000?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on June 30, 2011, 04:31:36 PM
Sir soundtech anong size ng voice coil mo sa 21 and how many db?  and indoor and outdoor is not same Coz yung crell ca25 medyo hirap sa battle18 ,Yan ang mga sinabi nang naka bili ng battle18 yung ma5000 mas malakas pa sa crell ca25? Pano mo masasabi na kaya ng ma5000?

Ma 4000 nga lng kaya na e drive yung Battle 18. one of our customer feedback is "kayang kaya nya yun 4 units of battle 18", what more kung Ma-5000 pa yan.if you want you can get one and try to know its power.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on June 30, 2011, 04:56:40 PM
Sir soundtech next time dalhin mo yung amp mo ma5000 sa masterfix compare natin anong mas malakas crell ca25 , battle amp or yong ma5000 ok lang ba sayo mga next week pag dating ng bagong battle amp?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on June 30, 2011, 05:01:26 PM
Sir soundtech magpapatawa ka yata kung MA5000 hindi na kaya yung Ma4000 pa ,mas malakas pa yan sa battle amp at crell ca25? Thats imposible! Taga saan yung customer mo naka bili ng battle 18?

Kaya ka tuloy di  nirerespect ng ibang members dahil ganyan ugali mo, di ka marunong makipag usap ng maayos.
distributor ka ng live  diba? di ka kasi professional kausap. sige balik ko naman sayo yun tanong mo, paano mo nasabi di kaya ng M audio yun battle 18. meron kaba nito?
 
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: lighttech on June 30, 2011, 08:55:33 PM
tsk, tsk, tsk..  kaya kung ako tatanungin dapat hindi pwede mga peddlers dito. dito pa nag-aaway.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: DJdave on June 30, 2011, 10:41:39 PM
tsk tsk dito pa po kayo nag away.

nag backread po ako from 1st page up to last page...  

Sir soundtech magpapatawa ka yata kung MA5000 hindi na kaya yung Ma4000 pa ,mas malakas pa yan sa battle amp at crell ca25? Thats imposible! Taga saan yung customer mo naka bili ng battle 18?

@sir ultimate
Sorry po,i think medyo foul tong sinabi mo. pwede mo naman daanin sa magandang pananalita. kaya cguro naginit ulo ni sir soundtech.
nag ask ka ng question kung kaya ba  ng amp. parang bayas kasi distributor karin.

@soundtech
cool lng po tayo,  di lahat nadadaan sa init ng ulo :)

@ both party.
hayaan nyo po ang customer mag sabi kung anong okey  sa hindi okey.  sana mag kaayos na kayo.





Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on June 30, 2011, 10:48:55 PM
Sorry Po sa lahat!
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: N1X on July 01, 2011, 02:03:53 AM
mga sir eto po question ko sa may mga malalakas na power amp na yan, kung talagang ganun sila kalakas bakit po ang mga higanteng grupo like Force inc, sound check o yung iba pa e hindi gumagamit nyan? dahil ba mayaman na sila at puro branded lang kailangan nila o dahil mas ok pa rin mga VZ5000 at RMX5050?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on July 01, 2011, 06:50:05 AM
Sir in my opinion po.... Kaya po nila bumili ng branded amps tulad ng crown (macrotech series) , qsc and lab gruppen....kasali sa requirements nila ang gamin ng branded goods dahil mga bigatin foreign and local networks na hawak nila... Mas mataas ang singil nila sa service nila kaya willing sila mag invest sa mamahalin equipments... Hindi sila after the lakas ng amps but habol nila sa sound quality at di nag DC out ang amp nila... Mga branded usually 2 ohms stable ang amp nila...but the price mas mahal...
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: rhenDman on July 01, 2011, 11:00:41 AM
mga sir eto po question ko sa may mga malalakas na power amp na yan, kung talagang ganun sila kalakas bakit po ang mga higanteng grupo like Force inc, sound check o yung iba pa e hindi gumagamit nyan? dahil ba mayaman na sila at puro branded lang kailangan nila o dahil mas ok pa rin mga VZ5000 at RMX5050?

Sir sa pagkakaalam ko meron sa inventory nila Sir Philip Santos / Forsc Inc. now ng Kevler MC2 check nyo sa FB  :-D
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: rhenDman on July 01, 2011, 11:06:56 AM

Tutal malapit na PALMM suggestion ko lang Mr.Ultimate and Soundtech doon ntin tignan kung ano performance ng mga dala nyo amp sabak nyo sa shoot-out  :-D Lahat ng supplier gaya ng CRELL, Dynatech and Etc. dun kayo magsubukan ndi d2 sa mga sites tama ba ko mga kasama?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on July 01, 2011, 11:39:26 AM
Tutal malapit na PALMM suggestion ko lang Mr.Ultimate and Soundtech doon ntin tignan kung ano performance ng mga dala nyo amp sabak nyo sa shoot-out  :-D Lahat ng supplier gaya ng CRELL, Dynatech and Etc. dun kayo magsubukan ndi d2 sa mga sites tama ba ko mga kasama?

Haha sir ok idea mo...pero di pa rin enough ang PALM...  Di mo ma test ng full volume... Pinapahina ng mga organizers pag sobrang lakas ang volume...kahit sa labas pa sila mag shoot out...,sana may  isang open field or park malapit sa Manila...tulad sa Iloilo...
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on July 01, 2011, 03:54:58 PM
Sir sa pagkakaalam ko meron sa inventory nila Sir Philip Santos / Forsc Inc. now ng Kevler MC2 check nyo sa FB  :-D

AnG alam k0 b0z binibenTa na anG mga KevlEr ni F0rsinc at bumiLi na din ng tuNay na Jbl Vertec... :roll:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: rhenDman on July 02, 2011, 12:38:56 AM
Matagal na ata may original Vertec sila dn  :lol:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on July 02, 2011, 12:16:35 PM

lol, first of all di ako si Manny king.di ako galit, tsaka ung way ng pag tatanong mo sarcastic eh.ako nag papatawa? d ako mag lalagay ng mga bagay ng d ako sigurado at hndi ko alam. dahil sa bandang huli ako din mapapahiya sa mga consumer.

at ito pa,iba kasi yung nagtatanong kaysa sa ng iinsulto. hindi ikaw o ako ang magsasabi kung anong product ang maganda. tama si djdave,hayaan natin ang mga customers ang mag judge.


uulitin ko, Hindi masamang magtanong, pero kung hahaluan mo ng malisya ibang usapan na yan..
tip ko lng, Be nice to other members para maging nice din sila sayo..


Sir soundtech next time dalhin mo yung amp mo ma5000 sa masterfix compare natin anong mas malakas crell ca25 , battle amp or yong ma5000 ok lang ba sayo mga next week pag dating ng bagong battle amp?

fyi hindi dealer ng m audio amp si master fix. dealer sila ng Live amplifier. tama si rhenDman,para hindi bias, sa palmm nalng natin dalhin ang usapan na to.

total, you cross the line between us.pinakailaman mo yung brand ko.may mga question din ako sayo. nalaman ko kasi sa mga dealer mo na may problem  pala ang mga battle amp. mabilis sya uminit at bumibigay ito.is this true? bakit kada 2 yrs nagpapalit ka ng model ng live amplifier? kasi since 2001 never nag palit ng model ang m audio. di kasi kami umiiwas sa repairs.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on July 02, 2011, 01:03:13 PM
ayaw ko na maki pag talo sayo sir soundtech , pero hindi talaga kaya ng m-audio ang battle 18 sinssabi ko lang ang totoo kami po yung magbebenta alam namin kung anong amp ang kaya lexus crell battle amp yan ang mga amp na  kaya at subok na sa iloilo , hindi ko sinisiraan ng ang product niyo gusto lang namin masulit at marinig ang tunay na lakas ng battle 18 sa mga naka bumili ng speaker na ito. ang live product po kaya po magpapalit ng model para ma upgrade po ang amin producto  taon taon maraning lumalabas na bago ayaw po namin pahuli sa market. sa bagong upgrade ng battle amp na lalabas ngayon ay mas malakas pa at hindi  masiyadong mag init. sir kung hindi kayo si mr. king bakit pa kayo tumawag sa isa sa namin customer napagalitan tuyoy po ako ng mga boss ko. wala na po sanang personalan baka mawalan ako ng trabaho peace na lang po tayo, kanyang kayang trabaho na lang , PS ang battle 18 ay naka design para iloilo , sa mga naka bili na po ng battle amp pinapa upgrade namin na walang bayad. marami na silang na pa upgrade at matutuwa sa bagong version.sir thanks for the reminding for our customer to upgrade thier battle amp. sabi ng mga boss ko hindi daw kayo katalo, friends daw kayo.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on July 02, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
ayaw ko na maki pag talo sayo sir soundtech , pero hindi talaga kaya ng m-audio ang battle 18 sinssabi ko lang ang totoo kami po yung magbebenta alam namin kung anong amp ang kaya lexus crell battle amp yan ang mga amp na  kaya at subok na sa iloilo, hindi ko sinisiraan ng ang product niyo gusto lang namin masulit at marinig ang tunay na lakas ng battle 18 sa mga naka bumili ng speaker na ito. ang live product po kaya po magpapalit ng model para ma upgrade po ang amin producto  taon taon maraning lumalabas na bago ayaw po namin pahuli sa market. sa bagong upgrade ng battle amp na lalabas ngayon ay mas malakas pa at hindi  masiyadong mag init.


i think you missing the whole point, di ako galit sa sinabi mo na di kaya ng m audio power amp ang speaker. in fact nirerespeto ko opinion mo. lahat tayo may kanya kanyang opinion. kaso hinaluan mo ng malisya yun question mo. judge mo na produkto kahit di mo pa actual nasusubukan. yung way ng pagtatanong mo ay may pagkabastos. entertain ko parin yun mga question kahit alam ko sa umpisa palang bias na.

,  sir kung hindi kayo si mr. king bakit pa kayo tumawag sa isa sa namin customer napagalitan tuyoy po ako ng mga boss ko. wala na po sanang personalan baka mawalan ako ng trabaho peace na lang po tayo, kanyang kayang trabaho na lang ,

hindi na kasi maganda yun pinagsasabi mo, sayang wala na yun ebidensya kasi pinag eedit at pinag bubura mo. kinaladkad mo yun name nya sa forum. so i told him tungkol d2. sa mga nakakakilala saakin at naging customer ko sa olx,talkphil,sulit etc. sila ang magpapatunay na hindi ako yun taong tinutukoy mo.

PS ang battle 18 ay naka design para iloilo , sa mga naka bili na po ng battle amp pinapa upgrade namin na walang bayad. marami na silang na pa upgrade at matutuwa sa bagong version.sir thanks for the reminding for our customer to upgrade thier battle amp.

remind ko lng na hindi lng sa lakas at dami ng speaker ang batayan. quality ng amp & quality ng sound first bago ang lahat.

sabi ng mga boss ko hindi daw kayo katalo, friends daw kayo.

sana maging responsible ka sa bawat word na bibitawan mo. dyan kasi naguumpisa yun gulo.

ok peace na tayo!! :-D

ISSUE CLOSED!!!!!!
    
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mr. ultimate on July 02, 2011, 04:57:48 PM
sorry sir hindi na po ako puwedeng magcomment about this issue utos ni boss 1 at ni boss 2 kilala mo na cguro sila , bahala na mga buyers to decide which is good for them.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Audiomaster on July 04, 2011, 01:02:57 PM
 kasi since 2001 never nag palit ng model ang m audio. di kasi kami umiiwas sa repairs.
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Sir soundtech this is only my personal opinion 10 years na pala yung m audio hindi ba nahuhuli na yan sa mga bagong disign na amp ? . Malaki na po kasi ang different nuong 2001 hangang ngayon ang mga technology at advantages ng mga electronics ngayon. Salamat po
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on July 04, 2011, 01:12:18 PM
new qsc models were still based on their old circuitry. also the macrotech series amps ng crown ay tagal na rin na circuit.matatanda na mga yan.
 
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Audiomaster on July 04, 2011, 01:24:17 PM
new qsc models were still based on their old circuitry. also the macrotech series amps ng crown ay tagal na rin na circuit.matatanda na mga yan.
 

Sir eirol_99 crown is crown no comparison advance talaga sila made in usa kasi at subok na matatag ang mga crown amp matitibay kahit matatanda na.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: eirol_99 on July 04, 2011, 02:04:56 PM
i know. gusto ko lang sabihin na walang matandang circuit ng ampli, basta gumagana pede pa, lightweight na kasi labanan ngaun kaya madami na nabago
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on July 04, 2011, 02:51:01 PM
i know. gusto ko lang sabihin na walang matandang circuit ng ampli, basta gumagana pede pa, lightweight na kasi labanan ngaun kaya madami na nabago

Yes sir... Light weight na ngayon nagsisilabasan sa mga branded... Gusto kasi ng mga touring company na light weight na malakas... Bakit kaya di sumikat ang mga switch power amplifier sa Pilipinas? Panay mabibigat na power amp...
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: BTS on July 04, 2011, 04:28:05 PM
kasi since 2001 never nag palit ng model ang m audio. di kasi kami umiiwas sa repairs.


Sir soundtech this is only my personal opinion 10 years na pala yung m audio hindi ba nahuhuli na yan sa mga bagong disign na amp ? . Malaki na po kasi ang different nuong 2001 hangang ngayon ang mga technology at advantages ng mga electronics ngayon. Salamat po

Sir Audiomaster, good brands are here to last long. M audio amp Ma series is already at its third generation. We came out with MA-3600, MA-4000 and MA-5000 in the recent years to meet the demand of our client for more powerful amp. R&D(research & development) is still continue, non-stop, fourth generation is coming soon. just like other branded product such as shure sm-58 it has been here for more than 10 yrs. and need not to change the model, just keep on improving. The problem with some brands, is that they keep changing the models once there is a problem to avoid their obligation. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mackie on July 04, 2011, 04:57:54 PM
Yes sir... Light weight na ngayon nagsisilabasan sa mga branded... Gusto kasi ng mga touring company na light weight na malakas... Bakit kaya di sumikat ang mga switch power amplifier sa Pilipinas? Panay mabibigat na power amp...


Price and availability...Sobra mahal kasi sir ng SMPS amps and beside dito sa atin kung ano yung nakasanayan na binibili yun na lang nang yun. Marami pang magagandang branded amps out there na di gasino kilala dito. Crown lang at QSC common na kilala natin. Yung malalaking touring company naman e kalimitan active na ang ginagamit na speaker system, especially yung mga line arrays nila mga active na din. And lastly the China amps, mas sumikat dito, it can do the job and yet affordable. dun naman sa maka branded talaga e Crown and QSC palagi, yun na kasi ang tested na, they dont bother trying other brands, yun din mga yun kasi ang available dito.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Audiomaster on July 04, 2011, 05:35:44 PM
Sir Audiomaster, good brands are here to last long. M audio amp Ma series is already at its third generation. We came out with MA-3600, MA-4000 and MA-5000 in the recent years to meet the demand of our client for more powerful amp. R&D(research & development) is still continue, non-stop, fourth generation is coming soon. just like other branded product such as shure sm-58 it has been here for more than 10 yrs. and need not to change the model, just keep on improving. The problem with some brands, is that they keep changing the models once there is a problem to avoid their obligation. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thank you po sa paliwanag
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on July 11, 2011, 07:26:01 AM
Price and availability...Sobra mahal kasi sir ng SMPS amps and beside dito sa atin kung ano yung nakasanayan na binibili yun na lang nang yun. Marami pang magagandang branded amps out there na di gasino kilala dito. Crown lang at QSC common na kilala natin. Yung malalaking touring company naman e kalimitan active na ang ginagamit na speaker system, especially yung mga line arrays nila mga active na din. And lastly the China amps, mas sumikat dito, it can do the job and yet affordable. dun naman sa maka branded talaga e Crown and QSC palagi, yun na kasi ang tested na, they dont bother trying other brands, yun din mga yun kasi ang available dito.

Sa huli B0z sa MURA din anG ikababagSak ng nakakaRami.   :-D
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ja! on July 11, 2011, 08:20:56 AM
crown amps,talagang "guaranteed excellence"
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on July 11, 2011, 09:06:37 AM
Sa huli B0z sa MURA din anG ikababagSak ng nakakaRami.   :-D
yes totoo po sir... lalo na sa mga malalayo na probinsya... kelangan talaga nila isispin ang ROI  nila... mas mura singil kasi sa mobile sa province kesa sa manila...   
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: goody on July 11, 2011, 10:31:51 AM
crown amps,talagang "guaranteed excellence"
+1
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ja! on January 04, 2012, 05:25:33 PM
ask ko lang ano best china amp to power crown jh-186.thanks.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: audioexpert on January 04, 2012, 09:45:20 PM
ask ko lang ano best china amp to power crown jh-186.thanks.
sir soundquest ca-32 para sa 4 units na crown jh-186. ito ang gamit ko sa mga installation ko ngayon... ganda ng performance.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ja! on January 04, 2012, 10:13:14 PM
salamat sir sa reply,yung ca-24 kasi ng kakilala ko bigla na lang daw nasira habang nasa event.nung pina check niya sa tech na kakilala nila,dinis courage kami na soundquest ang kunin sa dahilan niya na mahirap daw i repair,kasi masyado daw maliliit yung mga parts na nsa board na nakatago sa may panel sa loob ng amp.ewan ko din kung bakit niya nasabi yun. wala rin naman akong alam tungkol sa internals ng mga amp kaya di ko rin naman maintindihan. Pero ok naman performance, ca-24 nga lang ang ganda na tumunog,worry lang namin eh yung technical support kpag nasira sya.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: audioexpert on January 06, 2012, 08:33:19 AM
salamat sir sa reply,yung ca-24 kasi ng kakilala ko bigla na lang daw nasira habang nasa event.nung pina check niya sa tech na kakilala nila,dinis courage kami na soundquest ang kunin sa dahilan niya na mahirap daw i repair,kasi masyado daw maliliit yung mga parts na nsa board na nakatago sa may panel sa loob ng amp.ewan ko din kung bakit niya nasabi yun. wala rin naman akong alam tungkol sa internals ng mga amp kaya di ko rin naman maintindihan. Pero ok naman performance, ca-24 nga lang ang ganda na tumunog,worry lang namin eh yung technical support kpag nasira sya.
sir base s experience ko more than 10 units  na soundquest ang nainstall ko wala pa naman nasisira, lalo nA yung 1st unit n ginamit ko n ca-24 n kinabit ko sa bar almost 3 1/2 years na never been broken.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on January 06, 2012, 09:12:21 AM
kasi since 2001 never nag palit ng model ang m audio. di kasi kami umiiwas sa repairs.


Sir soundtech this is only my personal opinion 10 years na pala yung m audio hindi ba nahuhuli na yan sa mga bagong disign na amp ? . Malaki na po kasi ang different nuong 2001 hangang ngayon ang mga technology at advantages ng mga electronics ngayon. Salamat po
Sir ask ko lng po kung anong technology yung nabago sa Amplifier since 2001 or ten years ago, na dagdagn po ba yung class nila may mas maganda na ba sa CLASS-H na pang sub? ask ko lang po baka kasi my bago then matry ko din to improve my amps and better sound quality. since yung amp na gamit ko was design on 1987 the Crown MA-2400, 
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ja! on January 06, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
Sir, kayang kaya po ng MA-5000 ang  4 live 2000 watts 6" voice coil. ginamit din namin sa fix installation ang MA-5000 to drive 4 units of 21" turbo sound subwoofer sa isang bar dito sa manila.


BTW thanks for using m-audio power amp.
saang bar po ba ito? para ma-check po namin. how much po ba ma-5000 ngaun? salamat po.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on January 06, 2012, 11:21:41 AM
Mga Sir since this topic was open we always looking for  the new amplifier i'm getting interested at QSC RMX5050, since before i have MX2000a, looking at the net one internal pic call my attention and found out the layout look below :-o

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2462/5kamps.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dakilangpatricio on January 06, 2012, 11:40:17 AM
Dual mono design, parehas na parehas ang laman/layout nila ng PHONIC XP5000. . ewan sinu nangopya at kung sinu tlga nauna hehehe
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on January 06, 2012, 11:56:12 AM
Dual mono design, parehas na parehas ang laman/layout nila ng PHONIC XP5000. . ewan sinu nangopya at kung sinu tlga nauna hehehe
oo nga sir bakit kapa mag crown or mg qsc kung same lng with XP5000 hahaha, how is your XP5000 works at your sub?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: soundtech on January 06, 2012, 02:00:30 PM
saang bar po ba ito? para ma-check po namin. how much po ba ma-5000 ngaun? salamat po.
boss sa zirkoh timog pa. pero lumipat na sila sa t. morato. nasa 40k srp ang ma-5000.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on January 06, 2012, 02:18:11 PM
boss sa zirkoh timog pa. pero lumipat na sila sa t. morato. nasa 40k srp ang ma-5000.
sir baka meron internal pic yung ma-5000? kung okay lng po para makita namin salamat
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: superwup on January 06, 2012, 02:20:53 PM
Try the new Live battle line, Raygin in Raon is selling it.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: BTS on January 06, 2012, 02:37:33 PM
Sir ask ko lng po kung anong technology yung nabago sa Amplifier since 2001 or ten years ago, na dagdagn po ba yung class nila may mas maganda na ba sa CLASS-H na pang sub? ask ko lang po baka kasi my bago then matry ko din to improve my amps and better sound quality. since yung amp na gamit ko was design on 1987 the Crown MA-2400,
yes sir , m audio power amplifier have improve its circuit board and power board. they have totally new circuit board.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: BTS on January 06, 2012, 02:42:28 PM
sir baka meron internal pic yung ma-5000? kung okay lng po para makita namin salamat
sir i'll post it as soon as i get the picture
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: BTS on January 06, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
salamat sir sa reply,yung ca-24 kasi ng kakilala ko bigla na lang daw nasira habang nasa event.nung pina check niya sa tech na kakilala nila,dinis courage kami na soundquest ang kunin sa dahilan niya na mahirap daw i repair,kasi masyado daw maliliit yung mga parts na nsa board na nakatago sa may panel sa loob ng amp.ewan ko din kung bakit niya nasabi yun. wala rin naman akong alam tungkol sa internals ng mga amp kaya di ko rin naman maintindihan. Pero ok naman performance, ca-24 nga lang ang ganda na tumunog,worry lang namin eh yung technical support kpag nasira sya.
sir,  for any problem with soundquest power amplifier, pls feel free to consult us or bring the unit for check up at our service center at macarthur hi way potrero malabon. do not tampered by unauthorized technicians. or call us 2156465 or 09178949274. tnx
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on January 06, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
New Battle Amp 2.0  power transistor are ON / motorolla will come out soon  more clear more loud ! :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: smarty on January 06, 2012, 08:31:55 PM
@ BTS

sir pwede pahingi ng pricelist m audio at soundquest amplifiers. specs na rin po. salamat
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dakilangpatricio on January 07, 2012, 12:31:15 AM
oo nga sir bakit kapa mag crown or mg qsc kung same lng with XP5000 hahaha, how is your XP5000 works at your sub?

iba sir gamit ko na amp sa subs. . pero planning to sell it kapag maluwag na . . ACM21200 na ang gagamitin ko para straight lahat acm. . ung amp nlng ng sub ang hindi acm sakin e. . gusto ko kasi tlga si acm malinis tlga tumunug at ganda performance . .

si sir jojo limuaco po  xp5000 gamit bridge mode
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ja! on January 07, 2012, 09:41:45 AM
how about konzert k12? may nakapag try na po ba?  30K plus yata sa raon.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: BTS on January 09, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
saang bar po ba ito? para ma-check po namin. how much po ba ma-5000 ngaun? salamat po.
sir JA!, for your references the following establishment use our power amp for their subwoofer:

cowboy grill(quezon ave.)1 unit of ca-20 soundstandard for 2 units of dual 18 sub
hi society super club(angeles) 1 unit of ca-20 soundstandard for 2 units of dual 18 sub
guillys island (sta rosa paseo) 2 units of pa-8 atlantic pro for 2 units of dual 18(mono bridged 4 ohms)
chelu bar (malate) 1 unit of ca-28 soundquest for 4 sub18
socialista (malate) 1 unit of ca-24 soundquest for 4 sub18
cowboy (malate) 1 unit of ca-32 soundquest for 4 sub 18
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on January 09, 2012, 11:33:57 AM
new LIVE BATTLE AMP 2.0 and 2.1 with FET 650 and FET 1000






(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/live888ultimate1/amps.jpg)

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: nico denmark on January 18, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
what about the lightweight behringer amps with class D-T H stages and smps switchmode supply ?? ...here in dk they are not very costly ...behringer EP-4000 is approx 15800 peso new with 2 years guaranty
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on January 18, 2012, 10:17:12 PM
what about the lightweight behringer amps with class D-T H stages and smps switchmode supply ?? ...here in dk they are not very costly ...behringer EP-4000 is approx 15800 peso new with 2 years guaranty
sir kung mura ang mga amplifier jan, get a QSC or Crown,, mahal ang mga ito  sa pinas..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: nico denmark on January 19, 2012, 06:11:49 AM
QSC crown and so on are more expensive in dk than phils he he ...think i saw a used crown 5000 at 200.000 php in dk ...but the behringer is very lightweight and often productioncost applys to the resaleprice in dk when your talking non mbranded stuff like behringer .,..i have a "small" behringer ep 1200 that i used at new years night with 2x18 inch subs 4 ohm each plus 4x15 inch topspeakers (stageline) and it performed so well even though the peaklight was konstant on and the ohm was 2 ohms in each channel ....but look at the behringer inuke nu3000 at 1995 dkr for nexampel ....links can be send in pm ;o) ,....its totally 2 ohm stable and believe ot or not that 3000 watt amp weighs only 3 kg ....i could have several in my suitcase when going back and forth he he
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: nico denmark on January 19, 2012, 06:26:33 AM
also hifi and surround in dk ...a quick mlook at used prices ... denon 2.1 ch pma715r 600dkr ...cambridge azur 740a 2.1 ch 2700 dkr...nakamichi AQV/ surround 500 dkr...marantz sr3001 7.1 ch 1250 dkr...marantz sr 5001 7.1 surround with HDMI 2000 dkr ...NAD t163 surround 1500 dkr .....1dkr=7,2peso ...also remember that denmark is leading within high end speakerproduction and developement ...my own homebuild speakers are the troels graversen mark 21 (try googling them actually mine on his webpage) and my "simple " reciever is an harman kardon hk3480 stereo at 2x150 watt 4 ohm 2x120 watt 8 ohm ...buyable in dk for 1000-1500 dkr used
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on January 19, 2012, 05:38:09 PM
QSC crown and so on are more expensive in dk than phils he he ...think i saw a used crown 5000 at 200.000 php in dk ...but the behringer is very lightweight and often productioncost applys to the resaleprice in dk when your talking non mbranded stuff like behringer .,..i have a "small" behringer ep 1200 that i used at new years night with 2x18 inch subs 4 ohm each plus 4x15 inch topspeakers (stageline) and it performed so well even though the peaklight was konstant on and the ohm was 2 ohms in each channel ....but look at the behringer inuke nu3000 at 1995 dkr for nexampel ....links can be send in pm ;o) ,....its totally 2 ohm stable and believe ot or not that 3000 watt amp weighs only 3 kg ....i could have several in my suitcase when going back and forth he he

0k din paLa reviews ng Behringer amps dyan b0z.  Kami gas f0r EP4000  :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: nico denmark on January 19, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
guess learning tagalog should be top priority ha ha
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: nico denmark on January 19, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
but i think ill be needing to try the behringer inuke nu3000 due to its low weight of only 3 kg ...yes 3 kg ...please respond to me in english ...or danish he he ...tagalog and google translate still doesnt work good together he he
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: kojimal on January 19, 2012, 08:37:05 PM
hello mga sirs?... pwed kaya 2 sub  1860 crown speakers sa crest audio ca 6..nka bridge 4ohms???bali 1500watts 4ohms bridge nya?...thanks
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: kartar on October 17, 2012, 04:10:48 PM
new LIVE BATTLE AMP 2.0 and 2.1 with FET 650 and FET 1000






(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/live888ultimate1/amps.jpg)


sir may price list kaba ng mga yan? Battle Amp 2.0, Battle Amp 2.1, FET 650, FET 1000 and FET2000 at pa post na rin po ng specs nilang lahat, wala kasi akong makita sa net..

TNX..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on October 17, 2012, 08:34:02 PM

sir may price list kaba ng mga yan? Battle Amp 2.0, Battle Amp 2.1, FET 650, FET 1000 and FET2000 at pa post na rin po ng specs nilang lahat, wala kasi akong makita sa net..

TNX..


Maganda din yung Ultimate Battle amp. ang lakas nung ginamit sa gensan tuna festival sound system rumble nang Plantinos Audio,pinang power sa storm 2.5k 6+ inches voice coil. The volume is at 1 o'clock peru ang lakas na..  :nosebleed: :nosebleed:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on October 17, 2012, 10:36:28 PM

Maganda din yung Ultimate Battle amp. ang lakas nung ginamit sa gensan tuna festival sound system rumble nang Plantinos Audio,pinang power sa storm 2.5k 6+ inches voice coil. The volume is at 1 o'clock peru ang lakas na..  :nosebleed: :nosebleed:

Nandun kayo sa gen san tuna festival? Saw sa YouTube yung plantinos mobile... How was the sound sir?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on October 17, 2012, 11:12:40 PM
Nandun kayo sa gen san tuna festival? Saw sa YouTube yung plantinos mobile... How was the sound sir?


Mid Tops,Low and Sub - Sounds good but the hi's were not.. <_< Hi's- not properly set by their sound tech. In short, unbalanced set up. <_<
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: spacejam on October 18, 2012, 07:21:34 AM
Thanks sir:)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mix on October 18, 2012, 02:34:04 PM

sir magkano ba prisyo nitong Live Battle amp 2.0 & 2.1?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on October 18, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
Battle amp 2.0 45k srp
Battle amp 3.0 55k srp
Ultimate battle amp 80k srp
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Glennox on October 18, 2012, 10:11:45 PM
...Kamusta na kaya ang Lexus MA1800 mga bossing...,, :?

(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/Glennox_2010/images_zpsb445fdf7.jpg)

(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/Glennox_2010/amps_zpsd2d43d18.jpg)

...1200 watts at 8 ohms per channel

...1800 watts at 4 ohms per channel

...Price: 45000
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on October 18, 2012, 10:27:33 PM
...Kamusta na kaya ang Lexus MA1800 mga bossing...,, :?

(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/Glennox_2010/images_zpsb445fdf7.jpg)

(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/Glennox_2010/amps_zpsd2d43d18.jpg)

...1200 watts at 8 ohms per channel

...1800 watts at 4 ohms per channel

...Price: 45000
ito ang pinagmamalaki ng mga taga iloilo bossing pagdating sa battle of the sounds,,, :-D
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ja! on October 18, 2012, 11:08:24 PM
meron po ba taga zamony ventures dito,ask ko lang sana kung kailan magkakaroon dito sa pilipinas ng xp5000 na kulay gray black kamukha ng nasa website nila,http://www.phonic.com/en/xp-5000.html,puro silver white kasi ang meron sa mga dealers.salamat.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: kartar on October 19, 2012, 10:33:16 PM
Battle amp 2.0 45k srp
Battle amp 3.0 55k srp
Ultimate battle amp 80k srp

specs?



ito ang pinagmamalaki ng mga taga iloilo bossing pagdating sa battle of the sounds,,, :-D

nanununog daw ng speaker yan sabi dun sa kabilang thread, totoo ba yun?



meron po ba taga zamony ventures dito,ask ko lang sana kung kailan magkakaroon dito sa pilipinas ng xp5000 na kulay gray black kamukha ng nasa website nila,http://www.phonic.com/en/xp-5000.html,puro silver white kasi ang meron sa mga dealers.salamat.

magkano ba yung xp5000? kamukha ng qsc rmx5050 at crown xls5000 yan.


TNX...
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mackie on October 20, 2012, 12:15:08 AM
but i think ill be needing to try the behringer inuke nu3000 due to its low weight of only 3 kg ...yes 3 kg ...please respond to me in english ...or danish he he ...tagalog and google translate still doesnt work good together he he

Go for iNuke 6000 instead..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on October 20, 2012, 08:48:43 AM
Live Battle amp 2  ,45k srp
1350W @ 8 ohms , 1900W @ 4 ohms,  2200W @ 2 ohms 700 damping factor
Live Battle amp 3 ,55k srp
1600W @ 8 ohms, 2200W @ 4 ohms , 2500W @ 2 ohms 500 daping factor
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on October 20, 2012, 10:15:01 AM
The power of Ultimate Battle Amp

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Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on October 20, 2012, 03:19:42 PM
The power of Ultimate Battle Amp

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Ito pa pangdagdag... Power of 2 Ultimate Battle Amp, 1 Battle amp 3, and Live Fets Amplifiers..  :wave:

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Ito Yung mga amplifiers ginamit... :drool:

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Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on October 20, 2012, 05:41:01 PM
THANKS YOU SIR mm16
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on October 22, 2012, 09:48:28 AM
WSX BOX WITH LIVE SPK ANG LIVE POWER AMP

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Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on November 20, 2012, 08:26:04 AM
WSX BOX WITH LIVE SPK ANG LIVE POWER AMP

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12 Live Battle 18.5 speaker set-up. 6 per side.. Kevler line array 6 per side.

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Share ko lang. :roll:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on November 20, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
testing sa setup namin last time yung pangarap na amp ko haha natupad din :)
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y447/ryanbairan/IMG_4333_zps03b52f17.jpg)

iba talaga vz hindi galit yung tunog pero quality yung low
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Xelly on November 20, 2012, 12:32:49 PM
testing sa setup namin last time yung pangarap na amp ko haha natupad din :)
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y447/ryanbairan/IMG_4333_zps03b52f17.jpg)

iba talaga vz hindi galit yung tunog pero quality yung low

Sorry sir newb question. Saan ninyo nabili ito and magkano? Anong speakers nidrive ng amp ninyo na yan? Thanks!
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on November 20, 2012, 01:37:45 PM
Sorry sir newb question. Saan ninyo nabili ito and magkano? Anong speakers nidrive ng amp ninyo na yan? Thanks!
sie Xelly second hand ko na kuha to around 100k +- ang price, end of life na to sa audiophile, sa ngayon 4pc na P.audio challenger yun naka load sa kanya, for me its one of the best amp, :) ask natin sila kung ano masasabi nila sa crown 5002vz?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on November 20, 2012, 02:16:34 PM
sie Xelly second hand ko na kuha to around 100k +- ang price, end of life na to sa audiophile, sa ngayon 4pc na P.audio challenger yun naka load sa kanya, for me its one of the best amp, :) ask natin sila kung ano masasabi nila sa crown 5002vz?

    excellent amp
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Xelly on November 20, 2012, 02:55:01 PM
sie Xelly second hand ko na kuha to around 100k +- ang price, end of life na to sa audiophile, sa ngayon 4pc na P.audio challenger yun naka load sa kanya, for me its one of the best amp, :) ask natin sila kung ano masasabi nila sa crown 5002vz?

Sir sorry tanong ko lang ano ibig sabihin ninyo by that? Thanks!!
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on November 20, 2012, 04:25:06 PM
12 Live Battle 18.5 speaker set-up. 6 per side.. Kevler line array 6 per side.

feature=plcp

Share ko lang. :roll:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453543921351091&set=a.453542881351195.98863.100000864614192&type=3&theater

Ito yung amplifier na pinang power sa 12 Live Battle 18.5 1800w Speaker. Nilagay sa Folded 1850 Box.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on November 20, 2012, 04:43:53 PM
Sir sorry tanong ko lang ano ibig sabihin ninyo by that? Thanks!!
wala na po silang ilalabas na ganun yung crown audio last na nilabas nila nito yung gold edition hindi ko lang alam kung my stock pa yung ibang branch ng ganitong model :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: king_james on November 21, 2012, 11:16:29 AM
testing sa setup namin last time yung pangarap na amp ko haha natupad din :)
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y447/ryanbairan/IMG_4333_zps03b52f17.jpg)

iba talaga vz hindi galit yung tunog pero quality yung low
This is the amp that defined Crown's excellence in the line of professional power amplifier.  :-) :-)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: trance on November 21, 2012, 10:06:18 PM
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y447/ryanbairan/IMG_4333_zps03b52f17.jpg)

sir Ryan, tanong ko lang po... san po naka-set yung volume knob ng amp? (malabo kasi screen ng pc ko :)) is it 11'oclock or nakafull volume? thanks po.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Xelly on November 22, 2012, 12:27:24 AM
sir Ryan, tanong ko lang po... san po naka-set yung volume knob ng amp? (malabo kasi screen ng pc ko :)) is it 11'oclock or nakafull volume? thanks po.

sa nakikita ko bro naka set yung knob ng 4'oclock
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Live Pro Audio on November 22, 2012, 02:08:14 AM

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: alghanold on November 22, 2012, 03:56:09 AM
Crest pro 10001most powerful amp in the 90s rival of macrotech 5000vz at that time
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on November 22, 2012, 11:54:31 AM
sir Ryan, tanong ko lang po... san po naka-set yung volume knob ng amp? (malabo kasi screen ng pc ko :)) is it 11'oclock or nakafull volume? thanks po.
naka full sir trance, cellphone lng kasi pang picture ko haha
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ja! on November 22, 2012, 02:11:50 PM
mga bos ano ba dapat,malakas input signal tapos hindi naka full volume ang amp,o mahina input signal tapos naka full volume ang amp?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: trance on November 23, 2012, 08:02:06 AM
@ Sir Ryan & Sir Xelly, thanks po sa confirmation.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: trance on November 23, 2012, 08:06:41 AM
mga bos ano ba dapat,malakas input signal tapos hindi naka full volume ang amp,o mahina input signal tapos naka full volume ang amp?

+1 This also I wanted to know which is the proper way.... I've heard from other sound tech's, dapat daw naka-full volume ang amp... their reason para daw "busog" ang mga speakers.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on November 23, 2012, 10:38:08 AM

Live Fet 3000 and 4000 amplifiers pinang drive sa subwoofer nito..

feature=plcp :roll:

feature=relmfu  :roll:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on November 23, 2012, 11:11:58 AM
+1 This also I wanted to know which is the proper way.... I've heard from other sound tech's, dapat daw naka-full volume ang amp... their reason para daw "busog" ang mga speakers.
for me the best on my personal experience kasi most of our event or setup nasa malayu yung amp, so pag need i volume up mahirap, or my reserve headroom sakin sa mixer or sa driverack/eq/comp limiter, yun nga lang my konting ''pink noise'' sa midhigh   
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Jef2 on November 23, 2012, 11:39:53 AM
mga bos ano ba dapat,malakas input signal tapos hindi naka full volume ang amp,o mahina input signal tapos naka full volume ang amp?

    one usual scenario is to set all the signal processors to unity gain and turn the amplifier inputs to maximum. 

if you have a right amplifier and driver matching, it is always safe to set the amp's gain knobs to full.

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: djbhoyet on January 07, 2013, 08:39:37 PM
as much as possible, try avoiding the 'bridged mode'.  look for a power amp that has a really high power rating per channel so that you can maintain a normal L & R stereo set-up.

hope this helps.

iba kasi ang bigay ng bridge lalo na kung pang sub..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: djbhoyet on January 08, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
ask lang po, safe ba sa both amp and speaker ang 16ohms bridge? mejo nag aalanganin kasi ako ibirit baka mahirapan ang ampli.. salamat.. :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: tjlimjoco on January 08, 2013, 10:09:24 PM
Humanap ka na lang bos ng high wattage amp na design ipang-drive sa mga high wattage speakers para stereo mode set-up ka lang lagi.  :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: djbhoyet on January 08, 2013, 11:10:05 PM
gusto ko kasi tunog ng bridge boss eh, kahit mahina ang amp, sub na sub talaga.. :) compared sa stereo, magaan ang bass..
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: crisss on February 21, 2013, 11:40:55 PM
gud day po sa lahat sir ang alam ko po ung mga amp ntin ngayon fr china n even CROWN and QSC......... must see this site    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/567240011/MA1200_2400_3600VZ_Power_amplifier.html
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on March 13, 2013, 10:15:57 AM
gud day po sa lahat sir ang alam ko po ung mga amp ntin ngayon fr china n even CROWN and QSC......... must see this site    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/567240011/MA1200_2400_3600VZ_Power_amplifier.html
actually sir yung MacroTech ng Crown  at MX ng Quilter Sound Company, phase out na po at lahat ng mga series na yan is made in USA, yung mga nakikitang bago imitation na lang at hindi same na tunog.. :( yung casing lang na nakopya nila yung from china
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on April 26, 2013, 10:12:52 AM
mga bos my naka try naba ng c-audio SRX series ??
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: sabati on June 22, 2013, 07:21:52 PM
pwede po mkahingi ng review sa mga nkagamit n ng power amp n techno master..thanks

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/936938_548698755173311_1712615529_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: daverhod on July 04, 2013, 03:52:51 AM
Hi po sa masters ng Pro. Audio. May nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng Yamaha P7000s for sub? This amp has an output power of 750W @ 8ohms per channel / 1100W @4 ohms per channel. I'm planning to hook up 2 nos. P. Audio E18-400s per channel in parallel connection. The P audio E18-400s speaker  can handle nominal power 400W (AES) @ 8 ohms. Hindi ba maoverpower yung speakers ko at worst situations?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mixx on July 04, 2013, 07:17:41 AM
Hi po sa masters ng Pro. Audio. May nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng Yamaha P7000s for sub? This amp has an output power of 750W @ 8ohms per channel / 1100W @4 ohms per channel. I'm planning to hook up 2 nos. P. Audio E18-400s per channel in parallel connection. The P audio E18-400s speaker  can handle nominal power 400W (AES) @ 8 ohms. Hindi ba maoverpower yung speakers ko at worst situations?

Thanks.

Sakto lng yung amp mo sir it is recommended to use an amp that is 1.5 - 2 x rms rating of your speakers just make sure you don't clip the amp more to often eto kasi yung cause sa pag thermal ng speakers
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: daverhod on July 05, 2013, 11:38:49 PM
Quote
    Hi po sa masters ng Pro. Audio. May nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng Yamaha P7000s for sub? This amp has an output power of 750W @ 8ohms per channel / 1100W @4 ohms per channel. I'm planning to hook up 2 nos. P. Audio E18-400s per channel in parallel connection. The P audio E18-400s speaker  can handle nominal power 400W (AES) @ 8 ohms. Hindi ba maoverpower yung speakers ko at worst situations?

    Thanks.


Sakto lng yung amp mo sir it is recommended to use an amp that is 1.5 - 2 x rms rating of your speakers just make sure you don't clip the amp more to often eto kasi yung cause sa pag thermal ng speakers

@ Sir Mixx

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: bboybojert on July 15, 2013, 07:38:54 PM
Dear All PRO-SOUND enthusiasts,

Hanap lang po ako ng advice tungkol sa nabili kong Power Amp na Alto Mac 2.4 na palaging sinusunog ang sub ko na Crown 500watts na speaker.  Anung magandang speaker ang pwedeng magmatch sa specs nito?  Nagstart pa lang ako gumawa ng mini-sound.  Saka ask na rin po ng advice sa mga gamit na para sa mid-range at tweeter.  Pahelp lang po sa newbie na katulad ko.  Thanx.

Eto po yung specs ng amplifier.

3100 Watts @ 4 Ω bridged mono
2 x 1800 Watts @ 2 Ω; 2 x 670 Watts @ 8 Ω
Convenient front-panel level controls
High-visibility LEDs indicate clipping and protection
Switchable 30 Hz low-cut filter
Balanced 1/4" and XLR inputs
Speakon and binding post outputs
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on July 16, 2013, 07:33:23 AM
palaging sinusunog ang sub ko

How Much Power For My Speakers? - PDF Format (229KB) (http://www.peavey.com/support/technotes/poweramps/HOW_MUCH_POWER.pdf)

10 Common Mistakes That Can "Toast" Your Speakers and Diaphragms (http://www.peavey.com/support/technotes/soundsystems/top10damage.cfm) 
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: bboybojert on July 16, 2013, 10:02:26 PM

How Much Power For My Speakers? - PDF Format (229KB) (http://www.peavey.com/support/technotes/poweramps/HOW_MUCH_POWER.pdf)

10 Common Mistakes That Can "Toast" Your Speakers and Diaphragms (http://www.peavey.com/support/technotes/soundsystems/top10damage.cfm) 

@Tarkuz
Thanks for sir sa information
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: bboybojert on July 16, 2013, 10:06:50 PM
Sir,

Matanong na rin po anung magandang combination of speakers na kayang idrive ng ALTO MAC 2.4 ko po na amplifier.  Im planning to set-up two 15" and two 18" subwoofer, then two 12" instrumental midrange, and two horn tweeters.

What would be the suggested good specs/wattage of speakers and amplifiers for these combination?

More power po sa inyong mga professional experts na nakakatulong sa aming mga newbies.. :)

Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: skyjammer on July 16, 2013, 11:44:20 PM
Sir,

Matanong na rin po anung magandang combination of speakers na kayang idrive ng ALTO MAC 2.4 ko po na amplifier.  Im planning to set-up two 15" and two 18" subwoofer, then two 12" instrumental midrange, and two horn tweeters.

What would be the suggested good specs/wattage of speakers and amplifiers for these combination?

More power po sa inyong mga professional experts na nakakatulong sa aming mga newbies.. :)
Ang Alto amp po ninyo ay may ganitong power specs:
2 x 575W @ 8 Ohms;
2 x 750W @ 4 Ohms;
2 x 1400W @ 2 Ohms;
1 x 1500W @ 8 Ohms Bridged Mono;
1 x 2500W @ 4 Ohms Bridged Mono;

Ibig sabihin, safe nyang paganahin bawat channel ang mga susunod na pagpipilian:

1. Isang 250w/continuous power (kung may live band) to 400w/continuous power (kung walang live band) na speaker na may 8ohms impedance
2. Dalawang 250w/continuous power (kung may live band) to 300w/continuous power (kung walang live band) na speaker na may 8ohms impedance bawat isa, connected in parallel.
4. (Not encouraged) Apat na 200w/continuous power (kung may live band) to 250w/continuous power (kung walang live band) na speaker na may 8ohms impedance bawat isa, connected in parallel.

Kung sa subwoofer mo sya gagamitin, I suggest mag-bridge mode kayo para madaling mapagana ang 1 or 2 8-0hm subwoofer na may 800w continuous power.

Essentially, it's always a battle of wattage between the speakers and the amplifiers. At dahil parang meron ka na plan kung anong speakers ang kelangan mo, alamin mo sir kung tig-iilang watts (continuous/program/minimum) ang bawat speaker at anong impedance ng bawat ito. Kadalasan 8ohms ang impedance ng nabibiling PA speaker. As much as possible dapat mas malaki ang power ng amplifier keysa sa speaker.

Kung nasa rental business ka sir, mas maigi kung ang base specs mo ay yung pang-live band. Yun nga lang, kung yang amp mo ang gagamitin mo, mahihirapan na po yan magpuno ng tunog ng venue na kasing laki ng basketball court. Kahit po kalahating court medyo mangangamote na ang amp, unless yung event ay walang takaw-power instruments like distorted guitars, bass guitar and acoustic drums.

Sa mga nasalihan ko pong seminars, tinuturo po ng mga experts [sa mga taong kagaya ko na walang technical background on Acoustics] na para sigurado, dapat ang power na kayang ibigay ng amp ay times 1.6 o kaya doble o triple OR quadruple sa continuous power ng speaker. Sabi pa nga po, a well-made (aka branded) speaker can withstand an amp that has 20 times its power. Nung natutunan ko po to, matagal bago ko natanggap na nangangamote pala ang amp na ginagamit ko sa church versus sa speakers namin. Natanggap ko na lang po nung tuluyan nang bumigay ang gamit namin. :lol:

Note to our masters: Please feel free to correct me if may mali sa nasulat ko.

PS. Mahaba po ako mag-post kapag nagpapaantok. LOL!
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: daverhod on July 17, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
Hi guys!

Anybody here using Labgruppen FP1000 clone from china? I am planning to buy 1, so tempting price? Is this ok for the subwoofer? According to the supplier the perfomance is almost the same with the authentic LG.  thanks.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: bboybojert on July 17, 2013, 01:02:35 PM
thank you so much for the reply Sir Skyjammer for the very good info.

Another question pa po sir.  Please correct me if i'm wrong sir. Possible ba maglagay ng 800 watts 8 ohms speaker per channel on stereo mode. 

Kakayanin po ba ng Alto Mac 2.4 which is 575 watts @ 8 ohms per channel on stereo mode?

 :?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: skyjammer on July 18, 2013, 01:21:31 AM
thank you so much for the reply Sir Skyjammer for the very good info.

Another question pa po sir.  Please correct me if i'm wrong sir. Possible ba maglagay ng 800 watts 8 ohms speaker per channel on stereo mode. 

Kakayanin po ba ng Alto Mac 2.4 which is 575 watts @ 8 ohms per channel on stereo mode?

 :?
I am sure tutunog po yan pero sa tanong na kakayanin ba, kung tutuusin po kung di naman ma-overdrive ang speakers di naman po masisira.  Yun nga lang kung di mo po alam kung paano malalaman kung nao-overdrive na ang speakers o hindi, mas maigi kung umiwas na lang na i-underpower ang speakers. Yung mga amps naman po kadalasan meron LED lights that indicate kung healthy pa ang signal (green) or nagki-clip na (red). Kung ma-maintain mo sa mixer and amp ang green LED (or kahit orange pero may mga amp akong nakita na ang clipping signal ay orange din so basahin nang maiigi ang labels) at ALL TIMES kahit anong instrument/inputs ang ilagay mo, ok pa po ang gamit mo. Yun nga lang, kung nasa rental business ka, diyahe po kung pati clipping ng gamit inaalala mo pa masyado imbes na mag-focus ka na sa mix.

Malaking tulong din po kung gagamit ng compressor/limiter para ma-lock/limit mo na ang signal output mo sa desired level para kahit anong banat sa mix, controlled pa din ang ipapasok na signal sa amp through the compressor/limiter. For me, compressors, limiters and gates are like the kidney and liver of the PA system. Maigi din po kung iiklian mo ang speaker cables from amp to speakers.

Sa case mo po, I suggest mag-bridge mode na lang kayo tapos connect in parallel ang 2 800w, 8ohm speakers mo to make a 4-ohm, 1600w speakers. That way, you're only 60w shy from achieving 1.6:1 amp to speaker power ratio. Magiging mono nga lang po ang sound mo kahit ilagay mo yung speakers left and right, but seriously, who requires true stereo setup pa nowadays? LOL! Bihira na lang po yun. Kung tutuusin nga ngayon kung magset-up ka ng true stereo lalo na kung banda baka mas madami umangal na di balanced ang mix ng instruments, depende kung saan naka-puwesto ang listener. Tsaka ang kadalasang clients po ngayon ang alam nilang "stereo" ay yung may speakers sa left and right but not necessarily the true concept of stereo. And you can't tell them they're wrong because "The customer is either King or always right!" :)

Hope I'm making sense. Ayan, titigil na muna ako sa pagsalitype at ako'y antok na. If you have further questions and I happen to know the answer I'd be glad to respond.  :wink:
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on July 19, 2013, 04:21:39 PM
How Much Power For My Speakers? - PDF Format (229KB) (http://www.peavey.com/support/technotes/poweramps/HOW_MUCH_POWER.pdf)

10 Common Mistakes That Can "Toast" Your Speakers and Diaphragms (http://www.peavey.com/support/technotes/soundsystems/top10damage.cfm)

Another article:

Danger: Low Power (204kB) Information on one of the most common causes of speaker failure -- (under powering). lowpower.pdf (http://asia.jblpro.com/BackOffice/ProductAttachments/lowpower.pdf)

Hope this helps.  :)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: bboybojert on August 29, 2013, 09:01:30 PM
Ang Alto amp po ninyo ay may ganitong power specs:
2 x 575W @ 8 Ohms;
2 x 750W @ 4 Ohms;
2 x 1400W @ 2 Ohms;
1 x 1500W @ 8 Ohms Bridged Mono;
1 x 2500W @ 4 Ohms Bridged Mono;

Ibig sabihin, safe nyang paganahin bawat channel ang mga susunod na pagpipilian:

1. Isang 250w/continuous power (kung may live band) to 400w/continuous power (kung walang live band) na speaker na may 8ohms impedance
2. Dalawang 250w/continuous power (kung may live band) to 300w/continuous power (kung walang live band) na speaker na may 8ohms impedance bawat isa, connected in parallel.
4. (Not encouraged) Apat na 200w/continuous power (kung may live band) to 250w/continuous power (kung walang live band) na speaker na may 8ohms impedance bawat isa, connected in parallel.

Kung sa subwoofer mo sya gagamitin, I suggest mag-bridge mode kayo para madaling mapagana ang 1 or 2 8-0hm subwoofer na may 800w continuous power.

Essentially, it's always a battle of wattage between the speakers and the amplifiers. At dahil parang meron ka na plan kung anong speakers ang kelangan mo, alamin mo sir kung tig-iilang watts (continuous/program/minimum) ang bawat speaker at anong impedance ng bawat ito. Kadalasan 8ohms ang impedance ng nabibiling PA speaker. As much as possible dapat mas malaki ang power ng amplifier keysa sa speaker.

Kung nasa rental business ka sir, mas maigi kung ang base specs mo ay yung pang-live band. Yun nga lang, kung yang amp mo ang gagamitin mo, mahihirapan na po yan magpuno ng tunog ng venue na kasing laki ng basketball court. Kahit po kalahating court medyo mangangamote na ang amp, unless yung event ay walang takaw-power instruments like distorted guitars, bass guitar and acoustic drums.

Sa mga nasalihan ko pong seminars, tinuturo po ng mga experts [sa mga taong kagaya ko na walang technical background on Acoustics] na para sigurado, dapat ang power na kayang ibigay ng amp ay times 1.6 o kaya doble o triple OR quadruple sa continuous power ng speaker. Sabi pa nga po, a well-made (aka branded) speaker can withstand an amp that has 20 times its power. Nung natutunan ko po to, matagal bago ko natanggap na nangangamote pala ang amp na ginagamit ko sa church versus sa speakers namin. Natanggap ko na lang po nung tuluyan nang bumigay ang gamit namin. :lol:

Note to our masters: Please feel free to correct me if may mali sa nasulat ko.

PS. Mahaba po ako mag-post kapag nagpapaantok. LOL!

Sir,
I purchased a pair of Crown JH-159 speakers that i will use for subwoofer.  Okay lang po ba yun na i-connect ko siya on both channel on my alto mac 2.4 amplifier? Sa specs po ng speaker nakasaad na 500w nom. at 900 max ang Crown JH-159.  May enough headroom po ba to kung stereo or i-bridged mono ko na lang connection sa ampli? I'm confused.

Also, mga masters anu po pwede niyo masuggest na speaker wattage for a 12" MID and Horn Type HIGH in combination with my 15" JH-159 subwoofer??    Senxa na po kasi newbie talaga sa audio set-up.  Naguumpisa pa lang po.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on August 30, 2013, 09:56:30 AM
Hi guys!

Anybody here using Labgruppen FP1000 clone from china? I am planning to buy 1, so tempting price? Is this ok for the subwoofer? According to the supplier the perfomance is almost the same with the authentic LG.  thanks.

Ito sample video. TOrture test. Comparison test.. :-)



Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: dcdbriones on August 30, 2013, 06:50:54 PM
Ito sample video. TOrture test. Comparison test.. :-)




Yan yung original? o yung clone?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mm16 on September 01, 2013, 06:21:49 PM
Yan yung original? o yung clone?


Sinabi dyan sa video na clone yan.. :-) Sinabi din dyan kung magkano.. :cool: 60k man ata sa pagkakarinig ko sa video.. <_<
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: MKII on September 10, 2013, 02:40:48 PM
FAMOUSOUND CLASS I POWER AMP

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/MKII1234/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/MKII1234/media/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: djbhoyet on October 23, 2013, 09:59:06 PM
FAMOUSOUND CLASS I POWER AMP

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/MKII1234/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/MKII1234/media/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg.html)

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/MKII1234/IMG_3013_zps6571b843.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/MKII1234/media/IMG_3013_zps6571b843.jpg.html)

bilib ako sa performance nitong amp. isang MA4800 sa 4 na p-audio, taob ang mga nakabridge na amp 1:1 isang amp sa isang speaker bali 4 lahat.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: mants on March 08, 2014, 07:08:33 PM
FAMOUSOUND CLASS I POWER AMP

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/MKII1234/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/MKII1234/media/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg.html)

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/MKII1234/IMG_3013_zps6571b843.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/MKII1234/media/IMG_3013_zps6571b843.jpg.html)
sir can you explain kung ano po ang pinag kaiba ng mga class I amps like fomousounds kesa sa class H... kahit kc soundstandard na CA20 na class H eh ngayon e Class I na so para po sa amin n mga user pwede po ba paki expalin,,, tnx...   http://www.saechina.com/products_detail.aspx?id=46&zhu=4
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: nantrix on June 25, 2014, 07:59:17 PM
Sorry sir newb question. Saan ninyo nabili ito and magkano? Anong speakers nidrive ng amp ninyo na yan? Thanks!

ito yung amp na gamit ng mga hig-end na mga audio provider dito sa dubai.  :)

behringer EP4000 medyo mura dito, nasa P22K lang problema nga lang walang international warranty.

nagpademo ako ng isang brand na MISTUBA dito sa Dubai, ang lalakas ng mga amp nila at ang lilinaw ng mga speakers nila.
meron bang MISTUBA na brand dyan sa Pinas?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Rjaylo on July 14, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
new LIVE BATTLE AMP 2.0 and 2.1 with FET 650 and FET 1000






(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/live888ultimate1/amps.jpg)

gud day! to sir Live Pro Audio ask ko lng po kng wat amp yng nsa ibabaw ng live battle amp 2.1? specs en wer can i buy? more power tnx.
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ghomz on July 22, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
hello sir... gusto ko lang humingi ng feedback sa power amp na MAGUS PO1800 rated at 1,500watts at 8ohms nasa 27k po ang price.. may nakapagtry na po ba nitong amp? malakas po ba? how about yung power rating niya, true wattage kaya? yung ad mc5000 po kasi 1,300 watts sa 8ohms per chan at 35-36k.


ano po kaya mas okay sa dalawa pang bass??
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: Ghomz on August 13, 2014, 09:22:06 PM

mga master sino po nakagamit na ng Techno master Power amplifier and Live fet 1000.2 and Live fet 2000.2?

okay ba ang mga power amp na ito?
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: barracks01 on August 26, 2014, 06:26:59 AM
FAMOUSOUND CLASS I POWER AMP

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/MKII1234/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/MKII1234/media/IMG_3020_zps239ab1ea.jpg.html)

(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/MKII1234/IMG_3013_zps6571b843.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/MKII1234/media/IMG_3013_zps6571b843.jpg.html)

MKII ikaw ba si sir manny? maganda yang famous sounds mo (gawa ng sound standard?) nakita ko yan sa PALMM Moa. pero di na ei testing sana marinig ko yung quality :(
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: ryanbairan on November 08, 2014, 03:48:44 PM
kamusta kaya tunog nito sa sub
(http://labgruppen.com/mediaLibrary/images/english/1576.jpg)
Title: Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
Post by: MKII on November 12, 2014, 11:45:57 AM
MKII ikaw ba si sir manny? maganda yang famous sounds mo (gawa ng sound standard?) nakita ko yan sa PALMM Moa. pero di na ei testing sana marinig ko yung quality :(
boz may set up kami nito sa service center at 86g mc arthur hiway potrero malabon