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Title: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on April 20, 2010, 10:08:07 AM

merong empleyado ang Apple na mawawalan ng trabaho.. hehehe  :-D

http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone

http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone

 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: hunk0429 on April 30, 2010, 11:57:58 AM
Quote
What's new

• Front-facing video chat camera
• Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
• Camera flash
• Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
• Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
• What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
• Split buttons for volume
• Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic
What's changed

• The back is entirely flat, made of either glass (more likely) or ceramic or shiny plastic in order for the cell signal to poke through. Tapping on the back makes a more hollow and higher pitched sound compared to tapping on the glass on the front/screen, but that could just be the orientation of components inside making for a different sound
• An aluminum border going completely around the outside
• Slightly smaller screen than the 3GS (but seemingly higher resolution)
• Everything is more squared off
• 3 grams heavier
• 16% Larger battery
• Internals components are shrunken, miniaturized and reduced to make room for the larger battery

i dont like this part.. new iphone, mahal nanaman panigurado.. 50k?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on May 01, 2010, 08:56:20 AM
yaaakkk nangongopya na sila ng design ng china phones ngayon?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on May 01, 2010, 01:15:19 PM
hehe June or July and release nito dito.. may nakatabi na akong pera for this.

wag lang sana aabot ng 40-50k..  :-D
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on May 01, 2010, 07:56:01 PM
it doesn't look bad. what it lost on sleekness with the chamfered edges and chrome lining it replaced with a "business-like" feel with the straight-edged box look and the polished aluminum sides.

in my opinion it's a good way to advance the iPhone look. :)

problem lang with the Micro-sim port. may Micro-sims ba na ino-offer ang service providers dito?


Quote
What's new
• Front-facing video chat camera
• Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
• Camera flash
• Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
• Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
• What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
• Split buttons for volume
• Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic


(http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_iphone4_01.jpg)

credits to Gizmodo.com
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on May 02, 2010, 11:36:03 AM

problem lang with the Micro-sim port. may Micro-sims ba na ino-offer ang service providers dito?


-local service providers could make micro-sims to make this thing usable here

or

-Apple could make another version which requires only a normal sim

so i guess the question now is, who wants to make more money?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on May 02, 2010, 11:49:48 AM
^
nagse set nanaman ng standards ang apple.. so either mag adopt ang ibang US telcos or mag release ng isa pang version ang apple na may regular sim slot for international telcos..

or gupitin nalang natin yung mga sim natin heheheh  :-D
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on May 02, 2010, 12:32:24 PM
^oo pede din mag release nga ng isa pang version ang Apple nyan..pero overpriced..

papayag ako kung maglalabas ng micro sim dito yung mga local telcos kasi kahit sabihing 1k ang presyo ng isa at least 1k lang ang babayaran mo..pag Apple gumawa ng panibagong sim slot, may 50% price jump..ang sakit nun diba?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on May 03, 2010, 10:44:26 PM
hahaha

the micro-sim slot won't be a problem.

http://www.applei.ph/one/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,49/func,view/catid,68/id,72174/

a guy cut a sim to fit the sim slot of an iPad 3G. :D

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4569940470_669ffe6245_d.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4569941060_744e32186e_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on May 03, 2010, 10:50:31 PM
^
o pwede naman palang gupitin eh.. heheh so magagamit ko pa rin sa iPhone 4G yung old globe sim ko if ever :-D
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on May 05, 2010, 08:41:37 AM
i LOL'ed @ desperate moves  :lol:
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: nickmar on May 07, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
simulan na magipon :lol:
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 08, 2010, 02:02:25 AM
eto na!!! grabe na ito! gastos nanaman haaay!! IPHONE 4!!! :-D

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/wwdc10/WWDC25.jpg)

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/wwdc10/WWDC31.jpg)

iPhone 4 now has antenna integrated within the side panel.. stainless steel build.. 320dpi resolution screen (3.5 inch display).. an enhanced camera with flash and one front facing and powered by an Apple A4 Chip! (same as iPad)..

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/wwdc10/WWDC32.jpg)

another sensor was added.. GYROSCOPE! together with the accelerometer, magnetometer and proximity..

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/wwdc10/WWDC33.jpg)

an improved camera that records HD VIDEO! (grabe na to!!)

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/wwdc10/WWDC36.jpg)

video chat using Wi-Fi via FaceTime app!

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/wwdc10/WWDC52.jpg)

sold separately are this colorful, geeky, faggy and girly cases called "Bumper"

(http://edge-cache.gizmodo.com/gizmodo/wwdc10/WWDC55.jpg)

ipon!! ipppoooonnn!!!
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: hunk0429 on June 08, 2010, 06:13:05 AM
wow! with all the upgrades, i think this will sell like pancakes! but dubbed as THINNEST SMARTPHONE? i dont think so...
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: toybitz on June 08, 2010, 06:21:46 AM
hehe June or July and release nito dito.. may nakatabi na akong pera for this.

wag lang sana aabot ng 40-50k..  :-D

mga 99-299 dollars sa US, depende sa model.. that's less than 20K...but, may taxes pa.

http://www.thedailyinquirer.net/apple-iphone-4-release-date-update/0615636

http://www.thedailyinquirer.net/new-iphone-places-video-calling-as-prime-feature/0615638
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: akosimic on June 08, 2010, 11:58:25 AM
i checked the apple site earlier this morning. it can shoot in hd raw. and for the price, good thing i postponed my purchase of an iphone. pero lets see what initial reviews would say once it has been released.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: jem_adriano on June 08, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
thats one big ass battery!......hmmm i bet nokia is coming up with an answer as we speak! :-D

and i bet those youtube freaks are gonna put it in a blender again....*bajillion facepalms...
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 08, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
by the end of June ang release nito sa US.. then next month sa europe.. by august nandito na sa pinas yan (or earlier sana kasi next month din ang proposed release sa japan)

sakto sa birthday ko! hehehe a nice gift for myself!  :-D
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: kaloyster on June 08, 2010, 10:28:02 PM
Time to retire my iPhone 3G.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: juzaen on June 09, 2010, 09:02:19 AM
Sana magkapera! ipon muna!
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: kurtcobainer on June 09, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
Wala nga ako pambili ng iPhone na 3G. Eto pa kaya?! Hay.. *sigh*
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on June 11, 2010, 08:38:12 PM
mga 99-299 dollars sa US, depende sa model.. that's less than 20K...but, may taxes pa.

http://www.thedailyinquirer.net/apple-iphone-4-release-date-update/0615636

http://www.thedailyinquirer.net/new-iphone-places-video-calling-as-prime-feature/0615638


that price also includes 2 years worth of monthly payments via postpaid plans. :)

what do you guys think will be the starting price of this when it hits the market?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 11, 2010, 11:37:57 PM
^ Safe bet ko 35-40k then mag stabilize around 30-35k onced madami na ang nagbebenta sa gray market..

ill get one basta wag lalagpas ng 35k.. sobrang impractical na nga to spend 30k for a smartphone pero with the major facelift and added features I guess oks na rin. (unlike sa iPhone 3G and 3GS na wala naman halos nabago from 2G aside sa 3G antenna tsaka faster processor)
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on June 12, 2010, 12:17:45 AM
^ Safe bet ko 35-40k then mag stabilize around 30-35k onced madami na ang nagbebenta sa gray market..

ill get one basta wag lalagpas ng 35k.. sobrang impractical na nga to spend 30k for a smartphone pero with the major facelift and added features I guess oks na rin. (unlike sa iPhone 3G and 3GS na wala naman halos nabago from 2G aside sa 3G antenna tsaka faster processor)

35k for the 64GB version? somehow i doubt it :( before i even consider on buying one i'll wait for user reviews RE: battery. haha
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: juzaen on June 12, 2010, 06:49:50 AM
^ Safe bet ko 35-40k then mag stabilize around 30-35k onced madami na ang nagbebenta sa gray market..

ill get one basta wag lalagpas ng 35k.. sobrang impractical na nga to spend 30k for a smartphone pero with the major facelift and added features I guess oks na rin. (unlike sa iPhone 3G and 3GS na wala naman halos nabago from 2G aside sa 3G antenna tsaka faster processor)
Impractical nga kung hindi mo namamaximized ung features ng phone at hindi mo ginagamit sa business or sa work mo.

Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 12, 2010, 12:57:44 PM

here's a closer look sa bumper cases na sold separately..

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/bumperbumper.jpg)

mas maganda kung black sa white iPhone.. tapos the other way around naman for the white case.. actually this is not a case if you look at it.. its more of a "wrap-band" na po-protektahan nya lang yung stainless steel sides nung iphone while not covering the beauty of the front and back panels (which is all scratchproof glass)

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/bumpercase.jpg)

maganda talaga yung white iPhone 4  :-D

@Juzaen: yep I agree, kung titingnan ko sa trabaho ko ngayon eh mas magagamit ko pa yung iPad kesa dito (since may iphone 2G pa ako) kaso I really expected the iPad to carry the Mac OS-X not a mere iPhone OS..
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: kurtcobainer on June 13, 2010, 12:57:17 AM
@Juzaen: yep I agree, kung titingnan ko sa trabaho ko ngayon eh mas magagamit ko pa yung iPad kesa dito (since may iphone 2G pa ako) kaso I really expected the iPad to carry the Mac OS-X not a mere iPhone OS..

I guess ito nalang din ang hihintayin ko. Maglabas sila ng bagong version ng iPad. Mas magagamit ko for business.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 13, 2010, 02:35:27 AM
I guess ito nalang din ang hihintayin ko. Maglabas sila ng bagong version ng iPad. Mas magagamit ko for business.

kung ginawa lang kasi nilang Mac OSX yung OS ng iPad ok na sana eh.. inexpect ko yung iPad eh all-around tablet PC hindi isang "malaking iPod Touch".

imagine sana meron syang dalawang USB slot tsaka isang card reader.. tapos dala mo sya anywhere na pwede kang magbrowse sa internet.. edit word files tsaka yung pinaka astig sana for me as a photography enthusiast eh kada tapos ng shoot ko eh isasalpak ko nalang yung SD card sa iPad tapos "drag and drop" sya sa desktop then edit via photoshop.. o diba? instand HDR anytime!

but then again baka sa next iteration na ng iPad lalabas yung lahat ng naiisip ko..
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on June 13, 2010, 12:03:38 PM
here's a closer look sa bumper cases na sold separately..

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/bumperbumper.jpg)

mas maganda kung black sa white iPhone.. tapos the other way around naman for the white case.. actually this is not a case if you look at it.. its more of a "wrap-band" na po-protektahan nya lang yung stainless steel sides nung iphone while not covering the beauty of the front and back panels (which is all scratchproof glass)

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/bumpercase.jpg)

maganda talaga yung white iPhone 4  :-D

@Juzaen: yep I agree, kung titingnan ko sa trabaho ko ngayon eh mas magagamit ko pa yung iPad kesa dito (since may iphone 2G pa ako) kaso I really expected the iPad to carry the Mac OS-X not a mere iPhone OS..

looks good! (except the cobalt blue side protectors)

i can imagine a white iPhone 4 with a black protector, or a black version with a red protector. POGI.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: invictus on June 13, 2010, 11:50:10 PM
i want one!  :x  :lol:
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 14, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
i checked the apple site earlier this morning. it can shoot in hd raw. and for the price, good thing i postponed my purchase of an iphone. pero lets see what initial reviews would say once it has been released.

Same here. I'm getting them from the US direct when they're available.

Impractical nga kung hindi mo namamaximized ung features ng phone at hindi mo ginagamit sa business or sa work mo.

Exactly.



Question to all:

So, it's gonna be my first time to get an Iphone. Ever. If I do get it from the US when it does come out, can it be serviced, unlocked here? And will our SIM cards be used here without any problems?



Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 14, 2010, 08:53:28 PM
Same here. I'm getting them from the US direct when they're available.

Exactly.



Question to all:

So, it's gonna be my first time to get an Iphone. Ever. If I do get it from the US when it does come out, can it be serviced, unlocked here? And will our SIM cards be used here without any problems?





turi all I know is that the iPhone 4's iOS4 is already "jailbreakable" pero about the unlock im not really sure.. all we can do is atleast wait for the devteam to release a soft-unlock for it.. or our best bet will be:

to wait until Singapore or Hong Kong offer it.. because all Singapore units will be "Factory-Unlocked" (since they have a law there yata that prohibits lock-in among telcos).

in that way magiging competitive ang mga iPhone 4 prices sa gray market.. pero ikaw ang bahala if you want to order direct from US, surely AT&T locked yun pero its just a matter of time before the devteam release a new soft-unlock for it.  8-)
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 14, 2010, 09:25:51 PM
turi all I know is that the iPhone 4's iOS4 is already "jailbreakable" pero about the unlock im not really sure.. all we can do is atleast wait for the devteam to release a soft-unlock for it.. or our best bet will be:

to wait until Singapore or Hong Kong offer it.. because all Singapore units will be "Factory-Unlocked" (since they have a law there yata that prohibits lock-in among telcos).

in that way magiging competitive ang mga iPhone 4 prices sa gray market.. pero ikaw ang bahala if you want to order direct from US, surely AT&T locked yun pero its just a matter of time before the devteam release a new soft-unlock for it.  8-)

I'll just wait for that then. Thanks!
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 14, 2010, 10:01:46 PM
I'll just wait for that then. Thanks!

cool! baka pwede magpasabay if ever? hehehe shoit I need to gather funds fast! :-D

here's a comparison between the iPhone 4's "Retina Display" vs the current iPhone 3GS' regular display

iPhone 4
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone4-retinadisplay.jpg)

iPhone 3GS
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone3gs-display.jpg)

see how sharp it is? pero personally wala naman ako problema viewing pages in my iphone as I can just pinch to zoom in to read clearly, pero syempre this 300+dpi Retina Display resolution is a waay to sweet feature to pass.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 14, 2010, 10:24:09 PM
Yep. Exacly why I want it. Sure. Sabay ka if you want. But I want to be absolutely sure first na pwede na dito yan if we do get directly sa US. Plug and play as we say it.


cool! baka pwede magpasabay if ever? hehehe shoit I need to gather funds fast! :-D

here's a comparison between the iPhone 4's "Retina Display" vs the current iPhone 3GS' regular display

iPhone 4
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone4-retinadisplay.jpg)

iPhone 3GS
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone3gs-display.jpg)

see how sharp it is? pero personally wala naman ako problema viewing pages in my iphone as I can just pinch to zoom in to read clearly, pero syempre this 300+dpi Retina Display resolution is a waay to sweet feature to pass.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 14, 2010, 10:37:36 PM
Yep. Exacly why I want it. Sure. Sabay ka if you want. But I want to be absolutely sure first na pwede na dito yan if we do get directly sa US. Plug and play as we say it.

yun lang, mas safe kasi kung "factory unlock" ang kukunin natin.. so safest is to wait Apple to release it sa Singapore and Hong Kong.

kung AT&T unit kasi ang kukunin natin eh hihintayin pa natin yung software unlock ng devteam.. eh kahit magkaron sila ng beta release eh di pa rin natin sure kung safe yun dahil bagong baseband nanaman yan bagong bootloader, procedures ek ek..

not to mention yung warranty pa nung unit..
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 14, 2010, 10:51:18 PM
turns out hindi ganun katibay yung scratch-proof glass cover ng iphone 4..

dropped from 3ft (3x)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone-shattered2.jpg)

nabagsak ko yung 2G ko ng tatlong beses since I got it 2 years ago.. the last drop was courtesy of my mom :-D pero wala pa rin kahit isang maliit ng crack yung glass nung iPhone ko and no dents whatsoever, the only thing na hindi naiwasan is yung scratches sa back aluminum casing.. that's why I love my 2G at kahit magkaron ako ng 4G eh gagawin ko pa ring backup phone yung 2G ko. =)

another photo
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone-shattered1.jpg)

pero again according sa article nito eh walang inner parts itong test unit na ito.. so mas magaan sya sa totoong iPhone 4, kumbaga tinest nila specifically yung built nung case.. so di talaga natin alam unless merong mag drop test ng officially released iPhone 4 (lets wait for the Ars Technica and PC World stress test videos).

siguro kaya nag release din ang apple ng official "bumper" cases to be sold separately para mas protektahan yung "sides" nito.. since nagagasgas din ang stainless steel, and I think effective shock absorber din yung rubber material ng bumper cases to slightly cushion yung iPhone 4 incase mabagsak (pwera nalang kung mabagsak sya flat faced).
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 14, 2010, 11:13:55 PM
check this out.. this was taken using an iPhone 4!

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_photo_01.jpg)

auto daw lahat ng settings but when the image is viewed via iexif ito ang lumalabas na settings:

Aperture: 2.97
Color space: Uncalibrated
Date and time: 2010/05/07 15:14
Exposure: Auto exposure
Exposure time: 1/887
Flash: Flash did not fire, auto mode
FNumber: 2.8
Focal length: 3.85
ISO speed rating: 80
Metering mode: Spot
Sharpness: Hard
White balance: Auto

according sa article yung treatment ng shot is over-saturated with over-emphasized exposure.. medyo matapang and was same as how Nikon DSLR's treat their photos in "auto" mode.

pero remember na this shot was taken in optimal light conditions so di pa natin alam kung paano ito magperform in low-light situations.. kung paano magcompensate yung led flash nya sa auto-settings.. at kung may noise ba pag nag high ISO settings ka in low-light.

all in all the iPhone 4 can be nice point and shoot camera na rin.. (that's in my opinion)
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on June 15, 2010, 12:37:36 AM
don't forget, the iPhone 4 AFAIK only supports micro-sims. so get your X-acto knives and scissors ready. :D
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on June 15, 2010, 12:41:21 AM
Yep. Exacly why I want it. Sure. Sabay ka if you want. But I want to be absolutely sure first na pwede na dito yan if we do get directly sa US. Plug and play as we say it.

if you plan on getting as soon as they hit the US market, they're most definitely NOT plug and play here in the Philippines, since they are still most probably AT&T locked. tho as rockophoria says, it's only a matter of time before unlocked versions (and procedures on how-to) arrive here in the Philippines.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 15, 2010, 05:46:13 AM
I just called U.S. iPhone technical support:
(800) MY-IPHONE (800-694-7466)

they said that if we dont' use the 3G nor 4G feature of their phones, then it should work here when it's bought from the US. lol. I don't know if this is even true. lol.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: jem_adriano on June 15, 2010, 12:18:16 PM
turns out hindi ganun katibay yung scratch-proof glass cover ng iphone 4..

dropped from 3ft (3x)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone-shattered2.jpg)

nabagsak ko yung 2G ko ng tatlong beses since I got it 2 years ago.. the last drop was courtesy of my mom :-D pero wala pa rin kahit isang maliit ng crack yung glass nung iPhone ko and no dents whatsoever, the only thing na hindi naiwasan is yung scratches sa back aluminum casing.. that's why I love my 2G at kahit magkaron ako ng 4G eh gagawin ko pa ring backup phone yung 2G ko. =)

another photo
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/iphone-shattered1.jpg)

pero again according sa article nito eh walang inner parts itong test unit na ito.. so mas magaan sya sa totoong iPhone 4, kumbaga tinest nila specifically yung built nung case.. so di talaga natin alam unless merong mag drop test ng officially released iPhone 4 (lets wait for the Ars Technica and PC World stress test videos).

siguro kaya nag release din ang apple ng official "bumper" cases to be sold separately para mas protektahan yung "sides" nito.. since nagagasgas din ang stainless steel, and I think effective shock absorber din yung rubber material ng bumper cases to slightly cushion yung iPhone 4 incase mabagsak (pwera nalang kung mabagsak sya flat faced).


buti nalang dummy phone lang ito..

it just sucks everytime an new apple product is being tortured, seems to me there are really alot of apple haters around the world.....

when apple 2-g came out 2 guys broke it open with a chisel and smashed it with a sledgehammer

when the ipad came out,one guy blended it till it was just like sugar....

i bet somebody's gonna do much worse to a brand new 4g than just dropping it off 3ft

i think its become a trend to destroy a new apple product right out of the box everytime one comes out...
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: qroon on June 15, 2010, 12:47:54 PM

buti nalang dummy phone lang ito..

it just sucks everytime an new apple product is being tortured, seems to me there are really alot of apple haters around the world.....

when apple 2-g came out 2 guys broke it open with a chisel and smashed it with a sledgehammer

when the ipad came out,one guy blended it till it was just like sugar....

i bet somebody's gonna do much worse to a brand new 4g than just dropping it off 3ft

i think its become a trend to destroy a new apple product right out of the box everytime one comes out...

Because Apple itself and Apple fanbois are notorious in claiming greatness and innovation. :) But these days, Google is the darling of the geek crowd. And Apple transformed into the big brother in their 1984 ad.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 15, 2010, 01:14:59 PM
if we come to think of it di naman ganun ka-revolutionary ang products ng apple.. in my opinion what they do is "reinventing" what is common.. kumbaga nirere-engineer nila ang isang technology tapos binigyan nila ng unique "style" on how to use and enjoy that technology.. ang tawag dun is "User Experience"  :-D

before the iPhone eh marami ng touchscreens na naglipana sa market (I think yung Sony Ericsson P910i ang pinaka-lates nung year na yun) pero yung iPhone is "iba" kasi astig yung experience na ibinigay nung user interface nya sa mga users.. sobrang bilis ng response (almost no lag at all) unlike yung mga touchscreens nung panahon na yun eh merong mili-second delay kada pindot.. and who can attest na the "multi-touch" technology is not revolutionary? walang nakaisip nun nung panahon na yun.. lahat ng touchscreens nun single-touch-response lang.. (kumbaga literal na touch-screen lang) unlike sa iPhone na may pinch to zoom, hold and press.. swipe and double tap.

what I love about Steve Jobs is he's no engineer.. he's no programmer.. sales person sya actually and he knows what product to offer the best.. kumbaga pag sinabi ni Steve Jobs na "I want it like this" sasabihin ng programmer at engineer "Its not possible with the current technology" then sasabihin ni Steve "Then lets go at R&D". after a year or two meron na silang bagong produkto.

in short "visionary" si Steve.. hindi nya iniisip kung ano yung pwedeng "ibenta kaagad ngayon" what he wants is "what can we give tomorrow" or "how can we change, revolutionize and reinvent the future".  8-)

in a way yung qualities na ganun ang isa sa mga solid assets for a leader.. imagine kung ang mga presidente ng pilipinas eh "visionary" angganda siguro ng magiging future ng mga susunod na generation natin.  :lol:
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: suberbvni_123 on June 16, 2010, 06:33:41 AM
Apple hater here......... :lol: i don't think it's worth it. Considering it might cost you around 50k. I'd rather buy an asus k42jr 35k and a 15k nokia phone.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 16, 2010, 06:43:30 AM
Apple hater here......... :lol: i don't think it's worth it. Considering it might cost you around 50k. I'd rather buy an asus k42jr 35k and a 15k nokia phone.

Once that so called jailbreak will come out for the 4G, it's only gonna cost me 30k landed. Tops. epic.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on June 17, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
Once that so called jailbreak will come out for the 4G, it's only gonna cost me 30k landed. Tops. epic.

hmmmm magkano pasabay? hehehe

I recently came accross someone selling 32gb iphone 3gs for roughly 23k, brand new original in box... ipad 64gb+wifi for about the same price... distributors discount daw, even the 64gb ipod touch costs only 12k.... there's the rough idea how much the sellers at tipid pc make :D
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 17, 2010, 01:19:17 PM
hmmmm magkano pasabay? hehehe

I recently came accross someone selling 32gb iphone 3gs for roughly 23k, brand new original in box... ipad 64gb+wifi for about the same price... distributors discount daw, even the 64gb ipod touch costs only 12k.... there's the rough idea how much the sellers at tipid pc make :D

nagbabagsakan na ang prices kasi naghahanda sila to replenish their stocks para sa iPhone 4.. dinidispatsa na nila in discounted prices yung mga stock nila ng 3GS tsaka iPads..

kasi alam nila ang iPhone 4 ang magiging mainit na benta sa gray market
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 17, 2010, 04:06:29 PM
 :-D :-D

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_oatmealapplehead.jpg)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_oatmealapple1.jpg)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_oatmealapple2.jpg)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/oatmealapple3.png)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/oatmealapple4.png)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/oatmealapplefoot.png)

 :evil:

Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: invictus on June 17, 2010, 11:01:52 PM
does anyone have an idea where apple would be selling officially unlocked iphones?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 17, 2010, 11:41:04 PM
nagbabagsakan na ang prices kasi naghahanda sila to replenish their stocks para sa iPhone 4.. dinidispatsa na nila in discounted prices yung mga stock nila ng 3GS tsaka iPads..

kasi alam nila ang iPhone 4 ang magiging mainit na benta sa gray market

This best explains the current pricing of lower models.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on June 18, 2010, 12:59:03 AM
does anyone have an idea where apple would be selling officially unlocked iphones?

i don't think this will happen. your best bet would be resellers.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 18, 2010, 01:28:10 AM
This best explains the current pricing of lower models.

yep! I heard rumors of brand new and sealed openline iPhone 16GB 3GS' selling for as low as 23k! (if your getting 2 units that is) hehehe

but seriously the cheapest reported was 25k
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on June 18, 2010, 11:16:38 AM
just got word that iphone 4 will be available in SG on june 30...
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 18, 2010, 11:47:04 AM
just got word that iphone 4 will be available in SG on june 30...

is that confirmed? any links? [gooey brown stuff] I need to sell something fast for added funds!

sinong oorder or gonna be @ SG sa katapusan? 
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on June 18, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
is that confirmed? any links? [gooey brown stuff] I need to sell something fast for added funds!

sinong oorder or gonna be @ SG sa katapusan? 

Im not sure, pero a friend of mine has a sister in SG sabi daw sa june 30 meron na. I'm not sure about the pricing still... turns out iphone 3gs is now only around $199US for 32gb somewhere in SG...
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: juzaen on June 18, 2010, 10:25:32 PM
Sabi din ng mga friend ko na taga sg 30th daw..
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: haxo55 on June 19, 2010, 04:59:13 AM
Im not sure, pero a friend of mine has a sister in SG sabi daw sa june 30 meron na. I'm not sure about the pricing still... turns out iphone 3gs is now only around $199US for 32gb somewhere in SG...

mukhang may postpaid plan ata yan sir...
900Sg$ (650US$) yung pinakamura na nakita ko last week sa funan and sa mga malls,
sana bumaba na price ng iphone hehe
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 23, 2010, 11:04:23 AM
kainggit naman! dami ng meron..  :cry:

(images from www.gizmodo.com)

unboxing..
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_scaled-1.jpg)
(http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/119341760.jpg)
(http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/119342429.jpg)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/119347024-ad67aec35f1b68a33c6d32e7b5fa4c64.4c210f38-full.jpg)
(http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/119342863.jpg)
(http://cache-01.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/119345526.jpg)

comparisons..
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_sidebysidefullnew.jpg)
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_dsc05845_01.jpg)

camera test shots..
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_119363730-1.jpg)

 :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on June 23, 2010, 11:11:34 PM
I FREAKING WANT. :(
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: juzaen on June 24, 2010, 12:56:22 AM
my cash is ready!!!!
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 25, 2010, 11:17:50 AM
check out the retina display! -- superb resolution! (parang vector!)

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_iphonescreentoppper.jpg)

the iPhone 4 was already released in US, EU and Japan..
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: arvie on June 25, 2010, 05:07:48 PM
HELP mga bossing!

I think my ipod nano 4th gen is broken! cry

Kasi everytime na magpplay ako ng song or kahit magbrowse lang, nagffreeze siya, even ireset ko pa to the max ganun parin ang problem. freeze tapos minsan white screen na lang, minsan naman pag press ko menu then mid button nagffreeze sa black background with apple logo.

Sa tingin nyo mga sir ano kaya sira? huh

Minsan naghahang tapos tuloy pa rin yung music. sad
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: qroon on June 25, 2010, 08:46:48 PM
Hold different :)

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/jobs-on-iphone-4-antenna-avoid-holding-it-in-this-way.ars
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 25, 2010, 09:12:09 PM
HELP mga bossing!

I think my ipod nano 4th gen is broken! cry

Kasi everytime na magpplay ako ng song or kahit magbrowse lang, nagffreeze siya, even ireset ko pa to the max ganun parin ang problem. freeze tapos minsan white screen na lang, minsan naman pag press ko menu then mid button nagffreeze sa black background with apple logo.

Sa tingin nyo mga sir ano kaya sira? huh

Minsan naghahang tapos tuloy pa rin yung music. sad

You got yours already???
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: arvie on June 26, 2010, 07:01:04 PM
You got yours already???
ipod nano po sa akin sir. haha. bali OT. sorry pero i need suggestions or opinions badly. :cry:
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: hunk0429 on June 27, 2010, 07:35:54 AM
Hold different :)

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/jobs-on-iphone-4-antenna-avoid-holding-it-in-this-way.ars

here is another link (http://www.gsmarena.com/you_are_holding_your_iphone_4_the_wrong_way_you_know-news-1763.php)

(http://pic.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/10/06/iphone-4-reception-lost/gsmarena_001.jpg)

signal loss not admitting its a design flaw!
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 27, 2010, 07:42:00 AM
here is another link (http://www.gsmarena.com/you_are_holding_your_iphone_4_the_wrong_way_you_know-news-1763.php)

(http://pic.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/10/06/iphone-4-reception-lost/gsmarena_001.jpg)

signal loss not admitting its a design flaw!

those are what stopped me from looking into it further. i'll just wait till the problems are solved. lol.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on June 27, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
those are what stopped me from looking into it further. i'll just wait till the problems are solved. lol.

bumper cases daw solution  :lol:

sh1t..naisip ko lang..pupunta kami ni gf ng SG sa sept..mukang pati pambili ko ng laptop eh yayariin nya pag nakita nyang mura dun ang 4g  :|
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 27, 2010, 02:19:27 PM
bumper cases daw solution  :lol:

sh1t..naisip ko lang..pupunta kami ni gf ng SG sa sept..mukang pati pambili ko ng laptop eh yayariin nya pag nakita nyang mura dun ang 4g  :|

baka may metal rod yung bumper cases.. will act like an antenna extender pag ikinabit.. hay wala pa sagot yung jowa ng bro ko na nasa japan kung magkano ang price ng iPhone 4 dun..
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on June 29, 2010, 08:20:05 AM
baka may metal rod yung bumper cases.. will act like an antenna extender pag ikinabit.. hay wala pa sagot yung jowa ng bro ko na nasa japan kung magkano ang price ng iPhone 4 dun..

pag nilagyan mo daw kasi ng $30 na bumper case yung unit eh wala ng contact ang kamay mo sa antenna. ive seen a test performed in cnn about it. yeap, nawawala nga yung signal in a span of two minutes. tapos pag bitaw babalik. parang grounded yung kamay mo.

and $30 for an upgrade that most iphone users dont really want? HELLO CHINA!  :-D
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 29, 2010, 09:21:36 PM
confirmed prices of iPhone 4s in Japan..

Y40,808 - or around P23,000 for the 16GB and around 28K for the 32GB.. mura diba?

kaso locked-in sa Softbank in data plans.. :-(
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on June 29, 2010, 09:42:58 PM
confirmed prices of iPhone 4s in Japan..

Y40,808 - or around P23,000 for the 16GB and around 28K for the 32GB.. mura diba?

kaso locked-in sa Softbank in data plans.. :-(

mas mura sa US $200. Lol. Locked nga lang din.  :lol:
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on June 30, 2010, 08:17:06 AM
mas mura sa US $200. Lol. Locked nga lang din.  :lol:

sucks to be in a 3rd world country no?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: rockophoria on June 30, 2010, 02:15:29 PM
heard in another forum site that greenhills already has unlocked iPhone 4 (probably UK Units) selling for 50 grand!

tsk tsk.. sure ako may isang mayamang matapobre pa rin ang bibili nun.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: kuringmundo on August 16, 2010, 01:48:51 PM
a friend got an iphone 4 sa greenhills, 60k
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: juan_portnoy on August 18, 2010, 04:52:35 AM
My friend just came home from the states he bought one for his girl for P29k++
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: turiguiliano on August 18, 2010, 05:13:22 AM
My friend just came home from the states he bought one for his girl for P29k++

Nice!
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on August 19, 2010, 08:55:59 AM
a friend got an iphone 4 sa greenhills, 60k

lolz.

nauto?
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: hunk0429 on August 20, 2010, 07:07:44 PM
free iphone 4 bumper? errr.... apple's way of saying "we f*cked up! but this will fix your signal issue!"

http://www.apple.com/iphone/case-program/

:-)
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: marzi on August 21, 2010, 07:54:28 AM
free iphone 4 bumper? errr.... apple's way of saying "we f*cked up! but this will fix your signal issue!"

http://www.apple.com/iphone/case-program/

:-)

ayus lang. at least marunong silang mag acknowledge ng mali nila at alam nilang mali talaga nila kaya ginagawa nila yan..kesa naman nung una na binebenta pa nila yung bumper case..parang namerera lang labas nila nun e..
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: badongrodrigs on August 24, 2010, 09:10:33 PM
saw a shop in Cyberzone Megamall selling an iPhone 4 for 56k. it looked awesome.
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: tejadster on August 25, 2010, 09:41:29 PM
ayus lang. at least marunong silang mag acknowledge ng mali nila at alam nilang mali talaga nila kaya ginagawa nila yan..kesa naman nung una na binebenta pa nila yung bumper case..parang namerera lang labas nila nun e..

super palpak nga yung sabi ni steve jobs about that eh.
sabi niya "you are holding the phone wrong"

ginawa pa niyang [chewbacca] yung mga tao @-) sabi nga ng blackberry. dapat naging responsible sila sa design ng iphone 4
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: hunk0429 on August 26, 2010, 06:35:00 AM

super palpak nga yung sabi ni steve jobs about that eh.
sabi niya "you are holding the phone wrong"

ginawa pa niyang [chewbacca] yung mga tao @-) sabi nga ng blackberry. dapat naging responsible sila sa design ng iphone 4

they should have done extensive testing before they released it.. :|
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: tops_in_saucers on August 29, 2010, 09:54:52 PM
a friend got an iphone 4 sa greenhills, 60k

totoo?  :-o
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: pualux on September 01, 2010, 11:15:24 PM
they should have done extensive testing before they released it.. :|

sa press release nila, sinabi nila tinest nila, pinakita din nila yung antenna testing room...

they thought it wouldn't be a big deal daw...kasi most smartphones in the market also have the same issue...is na din dun yung blackberry...search mo nalang sa youtube...makikita mo yung presentation na yun...
Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: juzaen on September 02, 2010, 06:37:26 AM
I order a 32G black iPhone 4 from apple online store in singapore using my phil issued credit card! shipped to my friends address in sing..

They already shipped it last aug 31, dilivery date is today sept 2. Hopefully madala ng friend ko his comming home this sat!
the good thing is mahigit 1k sing dollar lang ang gastos ko..  its about 32k plus and its factory unlock

Title: Re: Apple iPhone 4th Generation
Post by: tops_in_saucers on September 02, 2010, 07:36:29 AM
Sa mga gumagamit na nito kumusta ang battery life? Ilang hours niyo nagagamit?