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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: omnicloud7 on July 01, 2006, 10:42:10 PM
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helo po mga sir! hingi lang sana po ako ng advice sa kung anong head ang maadvise niyo sakin kasi balak kong palitan yung snare head ko e. ano pong drum head ang sa tingin niyo pinakamaganda sa snare? thanks in advance. =)
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remo coated ambasador/evans coated g1/remo coated controlled sound
over remo snare side ambasador
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hmm. thanks!. oh yah btw, yung friend ko binebentahan ako ng coated na pinstripe for my snare. are they any good? san po nga pala makakbili ng mga evans heads? so far puro remos ang mga nakikita ko e.
thanks in advance! =)
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hmm. thanks!. oh yah btw, yung friend ko binebentahan ako ng coated na pinstripe for my snare. are they any good? san po nga pala makakbili ng mga evans heads? so far puro remos ang mga nakikita ko e.
thanks in advance! =)
no,they arent good for snare drum.
evans are available in audiophile,sa quiapo daw.
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hehe, hingi lang po ulit ako sana ng advice tungkol sa mga heads.
when i searched for drum heads around malls, hindi ako makapili ng drum head sa mga nakita ko, ito yung mga nakita ko, pakisabi na lang po kung alin sa opinyon nyo yung best for snares. =)
remo coated ambassador
evans genera hd coated
evans hazy coated snare drum head
may nakita rin ako evans g1 pero ang mahal kasi kasama siya sa isang set. di ko pa naman kailangan ng set eh, yung para sa snare lang. hehe
thanks in advance for your opinyons! =)
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hehe, hingi lang po ulit ako sana ng advice tungkol sa mga heads.
when i searched for drum heads around malls, hindi ako makapili ng drum head sa mga nakita ko, ito yung mga nakita ko, pakisabi na lang po kung alin sa opinyon nyo yung best for snares. =)
remo coated ambassador
evans genera hd coated
evans hazy coated snare drum head
may nakita rin ako evans g1 pero ang mahal kasi kasama siya sa isang set. di ko pa naman kailangan ng set eh, yung para sa snare lang. hehe
thanks in advance for your opinyons! =)
remo coated ambassador
evans g1 - mas mahal
almost same lng sila, pinaka versatile yang two na yan
reme pinstripe - for toms and bass only...but sometimes used as batter for snare drums.. for others only.. kanya kanya lng yan.
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maganada din ba tumunog ang ambassador na skin pag nilgagay mo sa mga tomtoms, kasi may sizes din dba, instead of pinstripe for the tomtoms,
any comments or suggestion na durable din para sa mga tomtoms
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remo coated ambassador is equivalent to Evans G1 coated. Not that they give the same sound. I read that G1 coated gives a cleaner sound and has better coating (but in doubt ako sa coating ng evans). Haven't tried either on my snare tho.
evans hazy (200/300) coated snare drum head - This is the snare side head or resonant head of evans. Remo's equivalent product is the Ambassador/Diplomat snare side.
Ang gamit ko ngayon Evans Power center reverse dot over Hazy 300. Its basically an Evans G1 with a thin round film about 5 inches in diameter at the center underneath the head. Sayang walang picture nun...
I really love the sound of it. Gives a more focused crack when hit at the center and reduces ring. Gives a ringy slap when hit outside the area of the DOT. Parang Evans Power Center or Remo controlled sound sya na hindi masyadong namumuffle ang ring.
Unfortunately, yung mga snare heads ng evans dito ay kasama lang sa pack (G1,G2 clears), bulok nga! Kaya mag-Remo ka na lang. I've heard remo ambs on snare drum at gaganda ng tunog. But since its one ply 10mil (like evans G1) medyo ringy sya, something that might bother you eventually.
ambassador on toms is a good idea. Matibay naman ito basta maayos kang pumalo. Kung maganda ang drumset mo, lalabas ang tunog nya sa single ply heads kasi hindi namu-muffle yung tunog. Again, you should try it. If you play rock, better stick with G2, EC2, Emperor, or Pinstripe.
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hehe, hingi lang po ulit ako sana ng advice tungkol sa mga heads.
when i searched for drum heads around malls, hindi ako makapili ng drum head sa mga nakita ko, ito yung mga nakita ko, pakisabi na lang po kung alin sa opinyon nyo yung best for snares. =)
remo coated ambassador
evans genera hd coated
evans hazy coated snare drum head
may nakita rin ako evans g1 pero ang mahal kasi kasama siya sa isang set. di ko pa naman kailangan ng set eh, yung para sa snare lang. hehe
thanks in advance for your opinyons! =)
get remo coated amb over remo clear snare side amb.
pag evans, g1 over hazy 300/200
pag gus2 mo mas focus tunog. get 2 ply(coated) or ung may dot ung batter.
ganun talaga,mahal.drummer eh. :twisted: ahaha
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tanong lang po. kasi since 1-ply lang yung ambassador, does that mean mejo madali siyang mabutas? hehehe, la pa kasi ako ejo alam tungkol sa mga ply eh. =)
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nope, unless you:
a. are heavy hitter
b. have poor technique (if you have dimples on your head and break sticks often then you know you lack it)
c. are so thrifty, pinipilit pa ring gamitin yung stick kahit pudpod na at wala ng tip
d. let somebody else use your snare
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nope, unless you:
a. are heavy hitter
b. have poor technique (if you have dimples on your head and break sticks often then you know you lack it)
c. are so thrifty, pinipilit pa ring gamitin yung stick kahit pudpod na at wala ng tip
d. let somebody else use your snare
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ah okay. sa totoo lang, di ko lam kung hard hitter ako. =) thanks nga pala sa lahat ng nag reply dito a. :D
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nope, unless you:
a. are heavy hitter
b. have poor technique (if you have dimples on your head and break sticks often then you know you lack it)
c. are so thrifty, pinipilit pa ring gamitin yung stick kahit pudpod na at wala ng tip
d. let somebody else use your snare
wow multiple choice, gusto ko yung D
bwahahahahaha
=)
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surprise surprise i cleaned my drums today and experimented tuning combinations on the toms. i mentioned before that im using remo pinstripes on batter and lazer double ply on resonants for the toms. today i tried to switch them over and used the lazers as batter instead.
result: lazer double ply > remo pinstripes hehehe
i got deeper lows and really focused sounds. the lazers are definitely a step up to pinstripes in sound. i sometimes put muffling on my 16 tom when they were on pinstripes but now i dont have to.
i was skeptical about lazers and dismissed them as good for backups and reso only for the longest time but now im a fan!
just dont use lazer on snare, i've tried it on my maple and metal snares and couldnt get it to sound lively. its too dark and lacking crispness.
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2ply over 2ply? woah,focused nga yan,ganda sa studio types. pero di ko recomend yan sa live?,.pero wag lng sana dead ang sound. kc i prefer naopen ang sound ng tom q.kc 10 feet away my kit sounds brilliant.
my plan
evans reverse dot over remo snareside amb clear on snare
evans g2 coated over remo clear amb on toms
remo power stroke 3 over evans eq3 bass
wahehehehehhe
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2 ply over 2 ply when tuned medium tight (top and bottom having the same tension) still sing. they also sound the same near or far from the kit :D
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2 ply over 2 ply when tuned medium tight (top and bottom having the same tension) still sing. they also sound the same near or far from the kit :D
howd u do that.?!
damn im jealous. di ko talaga magawa i tune ang 2ply resonant haha.>_<
pag na tune ko sabi ng tom, booooiiiing dang.hahaha
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practice...lots and lots of it. then there's the lug count and bearing edge consideration.
boing boing din yung tunog ng toms ko dati but i couldnt justify the cost of a new kit so i tried 'modding' it. perfect bearing edges are the key to improve sound and easier tuning. my drums used to have a straight 45 degree bearing edge and it was boingy as hell. not to mention that it was rough and uneven! i read about the old style bearing edges which have a round-over counter cut on the outside. i leveled both edges and did classic style edges then tuning became a breeze ever since.
my 16" tom originally came as a 6 lugger, replaced the hoops for 8 lugs and re drilled the lug holes. big big difference too.
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hindi ko kaya mag modify ng kits haha.tune tune tune na lng. >_<
i believe na mas maganda 30 deg sa tomtoms para may initial focused sound at 45 sa snare for max. resonance.
minsan nakakabanas pag tune mo na ung every lugs. ayaw mag parehas ng tunog wahahah
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lupet tlaga ng ginawa mo pao!
i agree eni, masmahirap itune yung 2 ply heads. Di ko nga gusto yugn nabili kong G2, kahit nanapalitan ko. Sticky at madaling matanggal ang coating ng snare batter. Tapos may parts ng G2 na patay ang tunog pag itono. bleh! Next time mag amb coated na lang ako siguro for everything unless makapagorder ako ng EC2.
sound samples namna pao!
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waw... tama nga naging expression ko sa lazer heads.. ung lazer heads ba n 2 ply is yung may white na ring? kasi nag jam kme ng mga friends ko sa lazer cubao... kahet na puro dents na ung lazer na head sa tom, ayos p nman ung tunog.. ü magkano kuya peeves ang bli mo sa lazer heads? maybe that'll be a good headstart for me and my drum..
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sound samples namna pao!
next sweldo, kulang ko na lang snare mic na matino
waw... tama nga naging expression ko sa lazer heads.. ung lazer heads ba n 2 ply is yung may white na ring? kasi nag jam kme ng mga friends ko sa lazer cubao... kahet na puro dents na ung lazer na head sa tom, ayos p nman ung tunog.. ü magkano kuya peeves ang bli mo sa lazer heads? maybe that'll be a good headstart for me and my drum..
hmmm walang white ring yung sa kin, clear sya na parang pinstripe din ang itsura except wala rung black ring. oil filled sa gitna tapos parang compressed yung edge. 515 each para sa 16" tapos 350 ata yung 12"
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yup, drum tuning ang pinakaimportante sa pagpaganda ng tunog ng drums. i have my stock fernando heads on my drumset. sobrang ayos na ng tunog nito for me once nahanap ko yung right tunog. ang problema nga lang is i really need to muffle them kasi maliit lang room ko kayo ang lakas nung overtones and nung echo. sa snare ganun din, natanggal ko na yung parang bakal na tunog and i found a nice quack este crack sound. =)
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So far nman po, nkuha ko n ung mejo close sa preferd sound ko sa tom... Stock heads of fernando is 1 ply (i guess) so i think they will produce boingy unfocused sound. Grabe, it's a pain in the neck nung hinahanap ko ung closest sound. pag mababa lng ung tuning, ok lng. pag tinaas mo, it gives you a choked sound. natry ko nga dati na ung mga CD labels, dinikit ko sa gitna ng heads. umayos ung tunog pero choked pren ng onti. Pero my master told me that id rather muffled the edge of the heads than the middle. ang kalokohan kong ginawa? rugby.. nilagyan ko paikot ung head. prang o-ring.. heheheh let it dry. then tried it. dun ko na achieve ung closest sound. Pero magkaiba pren ng feel compared to remos.... ü
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thanks for the info sir peeves!
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Bro pano mo natanggal ung bakal n tunog s fernando stock steel snare?? ung sken hnde ko matanggal tlga..lahat ng adjustment and combinations ginwa ko n.. pinalitan ko n ung heads. remo ambasador coated on top, remo clear hazy at the bottom.. mejo nbawasan pero mabakal p den ung tunog... tsaka nung pinalitan heads , lumakas ung tunog sobra.nasasapawan n ung iba.. tips nman... kelangan ko n yata tlga bumile bagong snare n kahoy.. kwarto pala nka setup ung drums.. tips...thanks
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tips nman den on buying new snare drum.. ung hnde masyado mahal, pero mganda n den tunog..gusto ko kc ung tunog n mejo makahoy.. ung mejo malapet s snare ni carter beauford of DMB..kung kaya..hehehe.. khet lazer or fernando n lng ulet.. ok b to??
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my friends and i learned a lot about tuning dun sa pearl website. try nyo rin dun, matuto talaga kayo. =) yun "tuning in opposites", took me at least an hour para mawala yung metal na tunog, actually, ndi naman siya completely natanggal, pag pinakinggan mo lang ng SUPER mabuti, dun mo maririnig, ngaun talagang rinig na rinig na yng crack sound. hehe
http://www.pearldrum.com/2002_techspeak/tuning.asp
hope this helps!
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Bro snubukan ko n eh.. pati Drum tuning bible .. ayaw tlga..
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What do You Prefer I want to change My Pinstripes to clea ambassadors
But i cant decide... Clear Remos Or Clear Evans?
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remos. :D
ot musta bro?
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Remo?
ok... mahal kc evans eh..
Ser ano pnta tau? cge na .. pra may kasama ako uuwi
sawa daw un eh.. up untill the morning :)
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sori bro d me makaka attend kasi awan budjet ko.
taghirap kasi. :oops:
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Both Remo and Evans are good. But I prefer Evans more than Remo. For me, Evans have better quality, and their clear G1 and G2 heads for toms sounds fuller and rounder than its Remo counterparts.
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Funk sound? Kailangan crispy.
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Ok..
Evans == 1
Remo == 1
Keep em comming Pipol... need more comments Tsalamat
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lol,the same actually. price lng pinagkaiba.
but im a fan of evans sa tom-toms.
funk? pag nahanap mo gus2 mong tunog while tuning, un ung funk.hehe.
find ur preference. not us.
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Ok lng po...
keep em comming...
Remo - 1
Evans - 2
hehe thanks guys..
bat nga pla ang mhal ng evan
twice ung presyo?
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lol bilis reply ha.
kc remo dali lng i ship dito sa pinas kaya mura tsaka dami nag bebenta.siguro.
go for evans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dun wait,.hehehe
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ok evans nga..
eh ung nag order na kc ako sa audiophile eh...
evans g1 ung resonant head pla..
anong model g1 din ba?
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Evans' website ---> http://www.evansdrumheads.com/
They have this drumhead sound chart, so that you can select the models of head that are right for the specific sound that you're looking for.
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try mixing them like remo on snare tapos evans on toms...
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Ako:
Remo Ambassador Snare
Evans G1 Clear on Toms
Remo Pinstripe on Bass (Powerstroke III sana, wala naman)
:D
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Ask ko lang kung ano ba yung brand ng batter mo yun din dapat ang resonant mo? For example pag powerstroke 4 yung batter mo sa bass dapat sa reso same din? Tnx!
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OO pla
I already bought EVANS EC2 for the batter and still LAZER clear for the reso
Evans is better than Remo... but i need to get G1's for my reso on the TOMS
I also bought GENERA dry for the snare ( with ports )
TAMA nga KAU!! evans is better than REMO.. for toms.. but i still miss the resonance of the coated ambassador on the snare... sayang...
:cry:
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Evans' website ---> http://www.evansdrumheads.com/
They have this drumhead sound chart, so that you can select the models of head that are right for the specific sound that you're looking for.
Ito rin ang gusto ko sa Evans... nalalaman mo ang lawak ng variety nila.
Kaso yun nga, may kamahalan.
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I have evans.. man, ang sagwa ng coating ng G1 /w reverse dot! Makita nyo ang drums ko ang dungis na dahil dun. at lahat ng stocks sa audiophile na reverse dot ganun. defective batch siguro. Terrible.
Remo is cheaper here but that doesn't mean its the lesser of the two. I bought evans G2 kasi walang Remo emperor dito. Ayoko ng pinstripe kasi gusto ko yung masmahaba ang sustain ng toms ko. Kung may emperor, remo na ako.. kasi its going to be cheaper at yun ang gamit ni tre cool!
Try them both. Siguro ngayon remo, 1-2yrs from now pag wasak na heads mo, evans naman. Both are great heads kuno.. masama lang experience ko sa evans coating.
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Ano pong mga drumheads ang maganda para sa inyo?
-Sa snare, toms at bass
-Batter at resonant
-Price
-setting (tension)
-sound
-mufflers?
:lol:
sakin all stocks
setting:
snare = super tight yung resonant, mas maluwag ng onti yung batter, hindi masyado maluwag yung snare wires (kapag hindi na nagrarattle)
toms = mas mahigpit yung resonant, maluwag (onting luwag lang at magkakaroon na ng wrinkles sa head) = low tone
bass = mas mahigpit yung resonant, may unan sa loob (mas malapit sa batter), may masking tape dun sa tinatamaan ng beater = walang overtone, dugdug lang...
:lol:
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you could go with the conventional remo batter & resonant sets pero for my opinion, i'd go with evans. mas full para sa akin ang tunog nya if toned right compared to remo. i dunno, i may have a hearing problem...
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just an advice...
for reso, you can use the stock heads... pag magsstay ka sa stock heads pati sa batter, a muffling would do and proper tuning to bring you near branded heads quality sound.. you can also create a poor man's "Remo Controlled Sound" type of thing on a stock snare batter head..
cheers!!!
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Ask ko lang bakit ba nilalagyan ng tape yung tinatamaan ng beater sa bass? Ayoko kasi nun kasi nagkakadumi yung beater ko eh.
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Ask ko lang bakit ba nilalagyan ng tape yung tinatamaan ng beater sa bass? Ayoko kasi nun kasi nagkakadumi yung beater ko eh.
In general, some drummers put bass drum impact pads on their bass drum heads in order to prolong the durability of their kick batter. It can also add an extra punch on the bass drum sound.
Instead of buying those commercially-available bass drum impact pads, some drummers improvise with household products like tissue, thin piece of foam, etc... I even heard of a drummer who uses feminine napkins for this purpose! They tape those things on their kick batters.
Worried about getting those beaters dirty? It's just a matter of mounting those pads cleanly, and making sure that the kick batter itself is clean.
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when i was bought my evans pads, may kasama na ring muffler and bass drum beater pad was included in the kit. i dunno if it is still available nowadays.
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Ask ko lang bakit ba nilalagyan ng tape yung tinatamaan ng beater sa bass? Ayoko kasi nun kasi nagkakadumi yung beater ko eh.
In general, some drummers put bass drum impact pads on their bass drum heads in order to prolong the durability of their kick batter. It can also add an extra punch on the bass drum sound.
Instead of buying those commercially-available bass drum impact pads, some drummers improvise with household products like tissue, thin piece of foam, etc... I even heard of a drummer who uses feminine napkins for this purpose! They tape those things on their kick batters.
Worried about getting those beaters dirty? It's just a matter of mounting those pads cleanly, and making sure that the kick batter itself is clean.
I see... Thanks. :D
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Going back to the topic...
I prefer Evans drumheads. Their drumheads are more consistent and I find them having better tone and much easier to tune. Eversince the D'Addario Company acquired Evans, the latter's product quality has greatly improved. And with Evans, I'm able to achieve the quality drum sounds that I prefer.
Remo also makes excellent drumheads, but Evans is my number one choice. Evans heads may be a little more expensive than Remo heads, but it's worth it.
My current snare drum set-up:
On my 5.5x14" Tama Starclassic Maple:
batter = Evans Genera Dry coated
resonant = Evans Snare Side Glass 500 clear
On my 5x13" Tama Artwood Maple:
batter = Evans G1 coated
resonant = Evans Snare Side Hazy 300 clear
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hi, just wondering.. does the type of wood affect the kind of heads you should buy? for example if the wood is maple, should you buy a specific type of head?
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ei san ba nakakabili ng evans na drumhead? ano ba pinagkaiba ng warm sa bright?
at ano ba ung mga kapareho ng remo coated ambassador at controlled sound sa evans?
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sa audiophile dito sa amin may available eh, subukan niyo dyan sa mga audiophile centers niyo...
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hi, just wondering.. does the type of wood affect the kind of heads you should buy? for example if the wood is maple, should you buy a specific type of head?
Good question!
There are numerous factors involved, so I guess we can't really generalize it. Not all drums are the same... For example, there are plenty of brands and models of maple drums available worldwide. Assuming that we have all of these maple drum models of the same size, they would still sound different from each other.
One maple drum may have a thicker shell, or a shell with more plies, or with different ply thicknesses, or with a different bearing edge, or with suspension mounts, or with different design lugs and hoops, different construction method, etc. etc. and so forth... Gets? :D
But what we can do is we can become aware of the sound qualities produced by different woods. Here's some useful wood info from The Drum Tuning Bible...
http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/id14.html
Now that we are familiar with the certain sound qualities produced by certain woods, we can familiarize ourselves with different brands and models of drumheads, and the different sounds that they can produce.
Experimentation, patience, a little research, and a good pair of ears are keys. I hope these personal opinions of mine are helpful.
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ei san ba nakakabili ng evans na drumhead? ano ba pinagkaiba ng warm sa bright?
at ano ba ung mga kapareho ng remo coated ambassador at controlled sound sa evans?
Warm - more organic-sounding; fat, meaty, dense, having good low-end.
Bright - more brilliant-sounding; more high-end; usually has more projection for live situations.
Source: Evans Drumheads Website (Sound Spectrum Chart)
The Remo Ambassador is an industry-standard one-ply drumhead for general use. Its Evans counterpart... the G1 model.
Remo Controlled Sound (CS) drumheads feature a dot in the middle; an extra ply mounted either above or below the drumhead in order to add durability and contribute to a more controlled drum sound. Its Evans counterpart... the Power Center models.
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wow thanks
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sa audiophile dito sa amin may available eh, subukan niyo dyan sa mga audiophile centers niyo...
bro, anong branch ng audiophile ka nakakita ng evans?
sa main sa paco wala silang 14" eh...
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thnx drumster for the info!! :D
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ei may alam ba kayo kung magkano ang g1 coated?
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sa audiophile dito sa amin may available eh, subukan niyo dyan sa mga audiophile centers niyo...
bro, anong branch ng audiophile ka nakakita ng evans?
sa main sa paco wala silang 14" eh...
audiophile dagupan po. >.< yung buong set na batter pads binebenta nila dito. ewan ko lang kung meron pa. kung wala na, by order na lang yun, pero i think sila ang distributor ng evans eh, kasi may binigay pa sa akin na brochure.
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i'd stay away from the evan heads sold here. I bought a set, even had it replaced. The coating of the reverse dot is sticky and wouldn't last 2 weeks. Dumidikit sa sticks, messes your set. Heto patunay:
(http://dl.pinoyhaws.com/miguel/top.jpg)
The G2 heads sound quite nice tho. I also tested remo ambassador and its sounds sweet, pero nasa sayo na din kung anong tunog ang habol mo. kung gusto mo pang rakrakan, pinstripe para punchy ang tunog with minimal resonance.
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sa audiophile dito sa amin may available eh, subukan niyo dyan sa mga audiophile centers niyo...
bro, anong branch ng audiophile ka nakakita ng evans?
sa main sa paco wala silang 14" eh...
sa ali mall cubao. kumpleto sila dun:)
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(http://dl.pinoyhaws.com/miguel/top.jpg)
tulo laway ko dun sa cymbals mo pre :D
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Talking about Evans heads..
could you suggest which ones of their different "types" of heads are good? I have only tried the hydraulics and am planning to buy a set..please advice.. :(
thanks! :wink:
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share ko lang po since this thread is about drumheads..
for me, evans is more durable... yung 16 inch floor tom ng drumset ng school ensemble ko is using Evans Genera G2.. 2 ply.. going around 4 years nah! on its 2nd year from being the drumhead on the floor tom, nagpalit kame ng batter head ng 12 inch tom nmen.. ayun, ngayon, bumigay na.. nagkapunit na sa mei bearing for about an inch.. laging nwawala sa tune.. hav to tune it nanaman mmya sa B flat thou.. :shock:
sa remo nman po mga sir, is Fyberskyn 3 still available? maganda ren naman yung head na to.. kahit wala kang reso head.. One ply ata to na makapal..
cheers!!!
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mga magkano po ba ang evans G1 14"?
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meron na bang Evans EC2 and Snare EC dito? Kasi the EC snare head like Bangbus' looks fantastic, i'm curious i wana try it out. mga how much kaya at audiophile, any idea?
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meron na bang Evans EC2 and Snare EC dito? Kasi the EC snare head like Bangbus' looks fantastic, i'm curious i wana try it out. mga how much kaya at audiophile, any idea?
im guessing around P1.4k sa audiophile :wink:
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I bought a 10" coated amb long time ago. Kanina ko lang pinalitan ang reso head, so its G2 clear over coated amb. Ibang iba ang tunog nya ngayon. Mas-buo sya compared sa stock grestch head. Nabawasan ang plastic sound nya and its warmer. So, hindi pala overrated mga nababasa ko na malaki ang influence ng reso head sa sound.
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I bought a 10" coated amb long time ago. Kanina ko lang pinalitan ang reso head, so its G2 clear over coated amb. Ibang iba ang tunog nya ngayon. Mas-buo sya compared sa stock grestch head. Nabawasan ang plastic sound nya and its warmer. So, hindi pala overrated mga nababasa ko na malaki ang influence ng reso head sa sound.
ano po ba mas makapal don sa G2 clear at sa coated amb?
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ei san banda ba sa alimall yung audiophile?
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ano po ba mas makapal don sa G2 clear at sa coated amb?
G2's are thicker than Ambassadors. G2 is 2-ply. Ambassador is 1-ply.
ei san banda ba sa alimall yung audiophile?
It's at the top floor, sa tapat mismo ng escalators. It's a big store; you won't miss it.
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ano po ba mas makapal don sa G2 clear at sa coated amb?
G2's are thicker than Ambassadors. G2 is 2-ply. Ambassador is 1-ply.
ei san banda ba sa alimall yung audiophile?
It's at the top floor, sa tapat mismo ng escalators. It's a big store; you won't miss it.
ok thanks.
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last night I installed the ambassador over stock head on my 10". Its got a thumpy sound.. parang "thug" at hindi yung "boin..inggg" ng G2. It sustains forever kasi halos pantay ang reso at batter. Medium tight tension.
Somehow, I miss the attack coming from the G2, kahit na parang plasticky tunog nya upclose.
So binalik ko nag G2. I'll keep the amb in case my taste changes. hehe.
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last night I installed the ambassador over stock head on my 10". Its got a thumpy sound.. parang "thug" at hindi yung "boin..inggg" ng G2. It sustains forever kasi halos pantay ang reso at batter. Medium tight tension.
Somehow, I miss the attack coming from the G2, kahit na parang plasticky tunog nya upclose.
So binalik ko nag G2. I'll keep the amb in case my taste changes. hehe.
ambassador po ba yung reso head nyan?
@topic
ano ba tunog kapag mas makapal batter heads..
ex.
remo pinstripe over stock heads
and how do i produce a "thug thug" sound on my toms?
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anu ba magandang combination ng heads para sa snare :?:
gusto ko sana i-try yung combi ng evans eh... :D
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naka bili ako ng coated amb 650 natawaran hanggang 570 :lol:
pero di ko muna ikakabit kasi perio namin this week :shock:
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ok ba ang pinstripe sa batter ng toms kahit stocks lang ang reso head?
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My current snare drum set-up:
On my 5.5x14" Tama Starclassic Maple:
batter = Evans Genera Dry coated
resonant = Evans Snare Side Glass 500 clear
On my 5x13" Tama Artwood Maple:
batter = Evans G1 coated
resonant = Evans Snare Side Hazy 300 clear[/color]
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sir anung tunog ng starclassic maple mo very warm ba yung dating???
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sir anung tunog ng starclassic maple mo very warm ba yung dating???
Yes bro it's warm, with a good amount of crack. Its die-cast hoops are helpful in contributing to its sound, offering clear and penetrating rimclick and rimshot sounds.
With the Genera Dry batter, my snare drum's sound is predictably drier and more controlled. But I wish to go back to a standard one-ply head for its next batter change (an Evans coated G1), in order to get a more open, more natural sound.
8-)
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balak ko na kasi palitan yung heads ng snare ko(sonor 3005 14x5) anu ba sa tingin mo mas magandang heads combi??? sa pearl picollo ko eh coated amb then snare side na remo sin balak ko sana this time evans naman sa isa kong snare thanks!!!
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balak ko na kasi palitan yung heads ng snare ko(sonor 3005 14x5) anu ba sa tingin mo mas magandang heads combi??? sa pearl picollo ko eh coated amb then snare side na remo sin balak ko sana this time evans naman sa isa kong snare thanks!!!
Yeah that would be good. A good one-ply coated batter and a standard snare-side drumhead works most of the time.
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thanks drumster update kita kapag nakapurchase nako this week ng heads and kung anu naging end results... thanks again!!!
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ok ba ang pinstripe sa batter ng toms kahit stocks lang ang reso head?
yes, ok na ok ang pinstripe sa toms lalo na pag 4 to 6 plies of wood yung toms mo.
wala masyadong ring and buong-buo ang sound.
pang rock and pop na tugtugan ayos ito.
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wah di ko alam kung ilang ply ng toms ko :-D
di bale :lol:
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ok lang!
kung mga roughly 1/4 ang kapal ng toms mo, pasok jan ang pinstripes.
wag lang masyado makapal tulad ng Pearl reference snare o tulad nung drums ni danny carey. o wag din parang pearl MMX na may reinforcement rings yung toms. magtutunog patay yan parang humampas ka ng unan.
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what heads would you guys recommend to go with my Fernando Drum Set? :-D
I play mainly rock, but i cant decide on what heads to buy. Evans G2 or Remo Pinstripe?
Thanks!!
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medyo may kamahalan, but i suggest subukan mo muna buying one of each para ma-try mo sa kit mo.
i try not to be biased sa brands, so go for it.
describe ko na lang ang sound ng pinstripes. focused, not too much ring, and maganda ang attack. medyo versatile din ang tuning range ng pinstripes but that also depends on the drum.
wala pa kasi akong experience sa evans kaya i can't give a comparison.
paging drumster....:D
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NOTE:
ni-edit ko ung title kasi napaisip ako eh....
mga master? san nakakabili niyang evans na drum heads?mahal ba yan? tsaka tama ba ung tawag ko (drum heads)?ty sa reply mga master!
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evans drumheads. tama.
sa audiophile meron. sa pagkaka-alam ko mas mahal sila ng konti sa remo. pero ok rin kasi durable and versatile naman ang mga heads na yan. i haven't tried one myself. just heard from my other drumming buddies.
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mas mahal sila ng konti sa remo.
correction. mas mahal ng malaki sa remo. hehehehe
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mas mahal sila ng konti sa remo.
correction. mas mahal ng malaki sa remo. hehehehe
thats right
evans EC2 --- 10" 1120
12" 1150
13" 1230
14" 1300
16" 1400
22" 2700
hehehe.. mura no?
evans are better on the toms. than remo.. ewan ko lng sa rock genre..
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mas mahal sila ng konti sa remo.
correction. mas mahal ng malaki sa remo. hehehehe
thats right
evans EC2 --- 10" 1120
12" 1150
13" 1230
14" 1300
16" 1400
22" 2700
hehehe.. mura no?
evans are better on the toms. than remo.. ewan ko lng sa rock genre..
tamo lagpas doble pa pala. hehehe
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oo nga!
sus!!!!!!!!!!!
grabe naman patong!
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evans drumheads. tama.
sa audiophile meron. sa pagkaka-alam ko mas mahal sila ng konti sa remo. pero ok rin kasi durable and versatile naman ang mga heads na yan. i haven't tried one myself. just heard from my other drumming buddies.
mahal na mahal ang evans.
nyehehehe
pero you get what you pay for.
yung stock ko sa picolo ko, hindi pa rin palit.
evans g1 ata yun.. mas makapal sya kesa sa coated amb.... kaya din siguro mas mahal.
oks din sya tumunog.
=)
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wala naman masyadong ring papa bam?
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I like Evans Drumheads. Remos are good, but I like Evans better. I find them to be more consistent and easier to tune. I can easily achieve the drum sounds that I prefer. Quality of their drumheads and accessories also greatly improved eversince the D'Addario Company acquired Evans a few years ago. They may be a bit more expensive than Remo, but it's very much worth it. That's right - you get what you pay for.
8-)
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Its worth it!! You cant expect a nice sound from a cheap head.
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sorry, newbie question. ang skin ba at head ay iisa?
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sorry, newbie question. ang skin ba at head ay iisa?
yup
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thanks :)
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thanx sa ,ga replies mga master! ang mahal pla grabe! hehehe cguro remo n lang muna bilhin ko. tight budget eh hehehe! as in astig ba tlga tunog ng evans? kya lang ayaw ko ung coated eh. gusto ko ung clear lang. meron ba nun?
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Yes, both Evans and Remo have various models of drumheads, available in clear and coated, for various musical situations.
Evans Website --- http://www.evansdrumheads.com/
Remo Website --- http://www.remo.com/
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ang galing naman nun master nung mga links! salamat! san nga pla mga branch ng audiophile?
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ang main branch matatagpuan sa UN ave. near honda cars manila, may branch din sa Makati sa Makati Cinema Square, meron din sa Boni... sa tapat ng Robinsons Pioneer (malaki yun!) un ang alam ko so far... ah! meron pa pala! sa Alimall! un malaki talaga un! ehehehe
MARU
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i think meron nito sa mga audiofile music store dun ako huli naka kita ng evans na drumheads,
depende yan sir kung anong klase ng evans head ang bibilhin mo para sakin maganda ang EC2 (Edge Control) and EC Rev dot for snare around P1k to P1.5k d ko lang alam kung mas mura na ngayon
EC Snare heads combine two-plies of film (6.5mil external, 10mil )
check this site http://www.evansdrumheads.com/EVProducts.aspx?ID=1&CLASS=RCJB
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mukhang maganda nga ang EC2.. G2 gamit ko oks naman. pero i prefer the sound of remo, at masmura pa. pag nagkawasakan na heads ko, remo na ako.
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ang galing naman nun master nung mga links! salamat! san nga pla mga branch ng audiophile?
http://www.audiophilecomponents.com/branches.php
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may site pala ang audiophile. thanks for the link
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thanx masters for the links! :) sana magka pera na ko para mapalitan ko head ng snare ko na evans ung ec2. maganda kaya tunog nun sa piccolo snare na steel 13" x 3" ung size? ty master!
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EC2 << toms lng... not for snare
genera... g1 coate.. or pede ring g2. coated... wag ec2
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wahahaha! o nga pla sa toms lang pla hihi! churi master diadem...
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ano ung difference ng batter heads and resonant heads? kita ko kasi sa evans website eh
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pag evans, ano recommended niyo for na snare at toms. how about if remo? thanx for ur replies.
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Remo -- snare -- evans toms
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REMO for me. I am not against EVANS as i have seen and played on some of their heads. but my personal preference is with Remo. to me, they are tried and tested with regards to durability and sound. and cheaper locally than Evans (which is a big factor). And its availability (especially on the 14" coated ambs) is dependable compared to Evans (2 times ako bumalik sa MAIN showroom ng Evans distributor, laging walang 14").
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ano ung difference ng batter heads and resonant heads? kita ko kasi sa evans website eh
Batter heads are the top-side heads; the ones you hit with your sticks. Resonant heads are the bottom-side heads.
Need more technical info? Visit the Drum Tuning Bible (http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/index.html)
Here's an excerpt of what the Drum Tuning Bible says:
Batter Head: The batter head controls the feel of the hit, initial pitch, the sound of the stick slap and the initial element of the drum sound or overtones. When the drum is hit, the ear hears mostly the attack and the fundamental pitch of the drum. Overtones emitted by the batter head are washed out at a distance, but aid in the overall projection.
Resonant Head: Often underestimated for its contribution to the tone, it is mostly responsible for the pitch, lingering tone and pitch of that created as a result of striking the batter head and resonance of the shell. The resonant head produces “resonance” and aids in sustain, it has a major effect in the overtones and enhances the timbre of the drum. Generally you do not use anything other than single ply on the bottom, but there are exceptions.
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LAZER muhahahaha coz im a cheap ass drummer :-D para sa toms and bass
remo coated ambassadors pa rin sa snare
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plastic cover ng national! hihi! corny! :-) ano ba pinaghkaiba ng remo pinstripes tsaka ambassadors?
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wahehehe! http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/ <<< e2 account ng kol center ko dati sa west. hehehe! ngaun bellsouth na ko! go bs! :-) ty master drumster. ikaw ba ano gamit mo for ur toms, ambassador o pinstripe? whats the diff bet the 2?ty! :-)
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From Remo's website (http://www.remo.com/)
Pinstripe® heads are made with two 7-mil Mylar® plies, and have quick decay, making them ideal heads for the “fat” sounds of Pop, Rock and R&B and for those who want a low pitched sound with moderate attack and response characteristics.
Ambassador® heads are medium-weight heads made with a single ply 10-mil Mylar® film to produce an open, bright, and resonant sound with plenty of attack.
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ty master! so pag ipunan ko ung pinstripe na lang for my toms. haay... sana mayaman kami... hihi :lol:
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REMO pinstripe for my toms/bass and REMO ambassador for my snare
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I prefer 2-ply skins for my toms, so I'd go for Evans' G2 or EC2 heads, or Remo's Pinstripe or Emperor heads. I prefer more low end and a more round, more focused tom sound.
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hehe, ako naman, I'm tired of my deep and low sounding toms! LOL! I'm lusting over ringy, high pitched toms. Next head change ko. Coated G1's :D
@All:
I'd take Evans over Remo anyday. Evans' coating just lasts longer. A LOT longer than Remo's. after 2 hours of playing my new 14" Coated Ambassador, the coating just wore off.. I have a coated G2 on my other snare, it has been on for around 2 weeks na. and the coating barely disappeared. LOL!
To each his own I guess.. Pero I know for a fact that Remo's coating sucks balls. LOL! :lol:
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can you guys suggest where to get remo powerstroke? they dont have it at the JB branch in park square.. thnx.
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I don't think meron dito sa pinas.
Anyone know where I can get 8" 10" 12" 13" 16" of Coated G1's :cry: :cry: All Audiophile branches don't have. :cry:
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the audiophile in makati cinema sq never has a supply of heads. hassel talaga. kahit G2's. they say that they will get new delivery but it never comes..
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remo ako kasi mas mura :-D
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^^^ plus.. mura na maganda pa!
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the audiophile in makati cinema sq never has a supply of heads. hassel talaga. kahit G2's. they say that they will get new delivery but it never comes..
No offense to the folks from Audiophile, but yeah... They do say that they'll be having a new shipment, but they can't really confirm when it will really come. Which is why I got tired of asking them about their Evans shipments.
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kaya mas praktikal ang REMO dito
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Adding to my last post...
What I notice is, one-time bigtime ang pagpasok ng shipments ng Evans drumheads dito. So, if ever Audiophile's new Evans shipment finally arrives, I should immediately start purchasing some stocks for myself before supplies run out. Others probably have the same idea.
But that doesn't make me stop buying and using Evans drumheads. Like what I said, I get what I pay for. I go for quality. Remos are great heads too. I just like Evans better. I don't mind adding a few hundred pesos for something that would help me perform and sound better.
A couple of months ago, I was in search of a 13" Evans snare head for my 13" Tama Artwood, whose stock head finally gave in. Naubos ang stock ng Audiophile, and I felt quite disappointed. Even JB/Salonga ran out of 13" Remo Ambassadors during that time. Thank God my friend got a spare 13" Ambassador head, I bought it from him.
Distributors should realize na napakadaming drummers sa Pilipinas, that they should always have steady supplies of drumheads. And they should bring in various models too! Remo's Ambassador and Pinstripe heads may sell like hotcakes, but they should also bring in some Powerstrokes and Emperors and other special models. I hope there are representatives from the music shops and distributors who are reading this.
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Adding to my last post...
What I notice is, one-time bigtime ang pagpasok ng shipments ng Evans drumheads dito. So, if ever Audiophile's new Evans shipment finally arrives, I should immediately start purchasing some stocks for myself before supplies runs out. Others probably have the same idea.
But that doesn't make me stop buying and using Evans drumheads. Like what I said, I get what I pay for. I go for quality. Remos are great heads too. I just like Evans better. I don't mind adding a few hundred pesos for something that would help me perform and sound better.
A couple of months ago, I was in search of a 13" Evans snare head for my 13" Tama Artwood, whose stock head finally gave in. Naubos ang stock ng Audiophile, and I felt quite disappointed. Even JB/Salonga ran out of 13" Remo Ambassadors during that time. Thank God my friend got a spare 13" Ambassador head, I bought it from him.
Distributors should realize na napakadaming drummers sa Pilipinas, that they should always have steady supplies of drumheads. And they should bring in various models too! Remo's Ambassador and Pinstripe heads may sell like hotcakes, but they should also bring in some Powerstrokes and Emperors and other special models. I hope there are representatives from the music shops and distributors who are reading this.
+1000!!!
pinstripe is too low end for me.... clear ambassadors sana wala naman..
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+1000!!!
pinstripe is too low end for me.... clear ambassadors sana wala naman..
go for emperors..but i hope meron na nyan there
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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+1000!!!
pinstripe is too low end for me.... clear ambassadors sana wala naman..
go for emperors..but i hope meron na nyan there
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
i think pinstripes and ambassadors lang ang meron dito sa atin.
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+1000!!!
pinstripe is too low end for me.... clear ambassadors sana wala naman..
go for emperors..but i hope meron na nyan there
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
i think pinstripes and ambassadors lang ang meron dito sa atin.
nakalimutan mo pmack ang REMO CS. controlled sound
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+1000!!!
pinstripe is too low end for me.... clear ambassadors sana wala naman..
go for emperors..but i hope meron na nyan there
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
i think pinstripes and ambassadors lang ang meron dito sa atin.
nakalimutan mo pmack ang REMO CS. controlled sound
ay! meron ba nun bro!?
ayos!
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me too i like low sounding toms. ill save up some money to get pinstripes. hopefully by next year complete na. hihi! ty masters! :-)
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astig din yung ginagawa nila portnoy, simon philips etc.. dun sa coated ambassador nila. nilalagyan nila ng sticker na bilog. parang yung sticker na pang remo cs. kaso sa likod ng skin naka dikit ang sticker.. ginawa ko nga yun sa skin ko.. ayus ang tunog less overtones
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astig din yung ginagawa nila portnoy, simon philips etc.. dun sa coated ambassador nila. nilalagyan nila ng sticker na bilog. parang yung sticker na pang remo cs. kaso sa likod ng skin naka dikit ang sticker.. ginawa ko nga yun sa skin ko.. ayus ang tunog less overtones
Reverse dotted ang ginagaya mo. Ganun na ang drumheads na nilalagay sa mga bagong Tama drums. :wink:
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aun master gep, si weng2X ba yung avatar mo? matagal ko na kasi iniisip alam ko artista yang avatar mo eh. tama ba? hihi! natuwa lang ako
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aun master gep, si weng2X ba yung avatar mo? matagal ko na kasi iniisip alam ko artista yang avatar mo eh. tama ba? hihi! natuwa lang ako
astig nga eh buti may nakaka alala pa jan kay weng weng eh.. patay na ba yang taong yan??
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hindi ko nga alam eh. 2wang 2wa ako dyan nung napanuod ko movie niya ung natulog sa loob ng kaldero. naalala ko yan pagnakikita ko ung mini na motor ung tinda ng chris sports sa sm fairview. hihi!
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astig talaga yang si weng weng. kahit sampu ang kalaban niya pinapatumba niya sa suntok at sipa lang... galing!!!
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sana nga magkaruon ng weng2X marathon sa cinema 1 o kya sa kht saang local ch kht ch5
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sana nga magkaruon ng weng2X marathon sa cinema 1 o kya sa kht saang local ch kht ch5
sayang hindi pwede magkarate si dagul
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jun kung ikaw? ano gusto mo heads para sa toms mo? kung may piccolo ka na 13x3 snare, anong head lalagay mo? o nga pla napanuod ko na kau nun sa kolumn bar, astig ka tlga pumalo... nagkausap pa nga tau nun eh... kung di ako nagkakamali sabi mo gusto mo sumakay barko kaso di mo maiwan tlga pagbabanda... :-)
andun paramita nun nung tumugtog kau, pati goat(sila jp buduan), tas kami(satya).. as if kilala mo kami hihi!
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ask ko lang kung anong magandang drums heads or skin na mura?
where to buy din?
and also yung range ng price para naman may idea ako.
salamas!!! :-D
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up ko lang :)
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dude hindi pwede yung mura na maganda sa drums :-D
try mo na lang yung encore by remo na heads sa jb, mura na decent. malamang hindi mo pa mabibilan lahat ng drums mo dahil sure ako may kulang silang size hehehe
lazer kung gusto mo talaga ng mura :-D
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thanks sa info sir,
anong range ng price ng encore by remo?
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300+ ata yung 14" coated, equivalent na yun sa 600+ na coated ambassador
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sana pumasok sa budget ko! hirap humanap ng pera... hehehe
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sa Laser paps meron
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Sa Lyric Piano. Yung Pacific Drums and Percussion...PDP drums heads ay 310.00 lamang. Wala nga lang 2 ply. Meron sila coated, clear/coated [the one with the coated ring on the outer edge] and single ply.
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Remo skins (coated ambassador/emperor(?), pinstripe) in Jb music. :-)
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remo ambassador ang balak ko ilagay sa drums ko kaia lang kulang pa sa bass at floor tom..hmm...db mahal po sa lyric?kc nung 2mingin ako ng cymbals..ung meinl headliners brass set ay 12k samantalang 6k lang daw un sa raon? :-D
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half-the-price yon ha?
meron din bang remo ambassador sa raon?
peke kya yon o hindi?
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remo ambassador ang balak ko ilagay sa drums ko kaia lang kulang pa sa bass at floor tom..hmm...db mahal po sa lyric?kc nung 2mingin ako ng cymbals..ung meinl headliners brass set ay 12k samantalang 6k lang daw un sa raon? :-D
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=perc/product/images/page=1/base_pid=442206
weather king coated ambassadors. :-)
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range ng price nun bro? @ nO RLY
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range ng price nun bro? @ nO RLY
mga 550--Php620 a head. magaganda yun.. yun gamit ko eh :-D
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ask ko lang po. newbie lang ako sa drums.
ano ba gamit ng drum head sa lower part?
kasi yung ibang drumset nakikita ko wala namang lower drum heads
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some people change their lower drum heads, but most of them don't. in my case, i had to change my snare's because it got destroyed. nagka butas na napakalaki. i had to change it with ambassadors. but not the coated ones. :-)
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A T T A C K
http://www.midwestpercussion.com/heads/canon_at1.html
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i mean is bakit yung iba titanggal yung lower drum heads nila sa mga toms? would it help to have a decent sound?
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@ royalletones
oh.. i dunno.. to give it more *boom* i guess? wala pa kong nakikita. or maybe they wanna place a mic in it just like the kick drum? :? i dunno.
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baka nabutas tapos walang pang bili! he he he!
ok na din kahit clear na mumurahin lang pang batter.
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bumili ako kanina ng 14" coated ng encore (P355) sa jb
sarap na uli ng tunog ng snare ko :-D
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good ayos yan bro happy drumming!! :-D
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baka nabutas tapos walang pang bili! he he he!
ok na din kahit clear na mumurahin lang pang batter.
Did you mean resonance head? Ang batter kasi yun yung pinapalo.
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batter nga ung pinapalo un nga hinahanap nya diba? sabe ko kahit clear nalang pang toms ok na din
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Ah ok.. Kaso kung iisipin natin parang mas sayang ang pera pag bumili ng mumurahin tapos hindi naman maganda ang tunog or hindi rin durable di tulad ng mga branded na skins..
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mura lang daw kc sabe nya eh! pero sabe nga ni ser peeves ata?. walang murang maganda sa drums!
:-D
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Tama. Kaya if you're looking for a good invesment, dun ka na sa mahal. But if you're just gonna mess with your kit, bili na lang ng kung ano anong skins sa raon like bro matteotanga said. :-D
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tama! hindi ka mang hihinayang sa pera mo pag branded ang binili mo! pero maganda din reaserch k ng
medyo mababa konti ang price pero same ung quality. kung madami bibilin mo! para may pang miryenda! he he he!!! :-D
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dude hindi pwede yung mura na maganda sa drums :-D
hahaha..very well said peeves... :wink:..as the saying goes..."you get what you pay for" :evil:
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question lang po mga sir.
anong mas ok for tom batters, encore coated heads o lazer 2-ply heads?
(or any alternative na nasa ganitong price range)
halatang walang akong budget pag summer :cry:
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cguro ung encor na coated nalng...hindi ko pa kc nkikita ung 2ply na lazer. pero tingin ko mura ung lazer tama ba??
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nagpa-quote kasi ako sa lazer ng 2-ply nila
12" - P385
13" - P400
16" - P550
tapos ung encore na 14" is P355 sa jb. (mas mura sya sa lazer?)
does the "mas mahal, mas maganda" rule apply here? or go with encore?
patulong naman mga sir. salamat :-D
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ilan ba tom? lahat ba pati floor tom? hindi ko pa kc nakikita ung 2ply ng lazer wala ba cla clear lang na batter? pero ok ung encore!
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ilan ba tom? lahat ba pati floor tom? hindi ko pa kc nakikita ung 2ply ng lazer wala ba cla clear lang na batter? pero ok ung encore!
3 toms, pati floor tom balak ko sir. para magimprove naman ang tunog ng toms ko, kahit konti.
yung black ung pina-quote ko, pero meron din silang clear.
haii.. ang hirap talaga pag walang source of income. :-(
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nagpa-quote kasi ako sa lazer ng 2-ply nila
12" - P385
13" - P400
16" - P550
tapos ung encore na 14" is P355 sa jb. (mas mura sya sa lazer?)
does the "mas mahal, mas maganda" rule apply here? or go with encore?
patulong naman mga sir. salamat :-D
hehehe the rule still applies
e double ply yung lazer, natural lang na mas mahal yun sa encore na single ply
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patay ka ngayon kay ser peeves!!!! he he he!!!
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:evil:
uyy meron ako nakitang attack heads raon...di ko lang tinanong kung magkano :-D
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sir, pati sa quality ng sound mas maganda ung lazer?
*pasensya kung makulit at sa abala narin, di lang po talaga ako makapagdecide at ayokong magsisi sa huli* :-D
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"quality ng sound" depends on what you like
personally, i like the sound of double ply lazers for my toms, beats my pinstripes. some people will disagree with that and its fine by me, that's personal preference
right now, bilin mo na lang yung kaya mong ma afford
disposable naman ang heads e kaya hindi mo dapat pagsisihan, sooner or later papalitan mo rin sya. kung di mo sya nagustuhan ngayon e di bilin mo yung ibang brand pag nasira na :-D
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haha, sya nga naman. pag may pasok na uli madali nang magpalit :-D
i'll go for lazers muna :mrgreen:
salamat sa advice sir.
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haha, sya nga naman. pag may pasok na uli madali nang magpalit :-D
i'll go for lazers muna :mrgreen:
salamat sa advice sir.
tapos ang problema!!! solb!!
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OT: ano po bang marerecommend niyo po mga sir na magandang drum head for a 13" to acquire low deep sound? yung pinstripe kasi, hindi na niya kaya pag tinono mo ng pinaka lowest niya.. hindi na niya mamaintain yung resonance.. plano ko kasing gawin FT yun ng super mini kit ko.. hihi thanks po!
cheers!!!
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kung may aquarian nga lang dito ayos na ayos yang 13" mo. pag tinatamad kasi ako, dala ko lang 8" snare, 10" na ginagawa kong floor tom at 18" bass. tono ko lang ng mababa yung 10" using aquarian double thin sa batter tapos aquarian classic clear sa reso. ang lalim ng tunog nun kayang tapatan yung 14" na floor tom pero kulang lang sa oomph liit kasi e.
may video ako nung gamit ko yung setup na yun, medyo di maganda yung audio pero dinig mo pa rin yung lalim nung mini floor tom. rip ko lang :-D
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waw kuya peeves, 10"? super mini kit ah? sa case ko, yung 13", ano kaya magandang gamitin? i-2ply ko kaya o single ply lang?
cheers!!
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wag po kayong magtalo. hehehe.
tanong ko lang naman kung may maisa-suggest kayo.
sana matulungan nyo ako sa pagbili ko ng mga drum heads.
snare - 14"
tom 1 - 12"
tom 2 - 13"
floor tom - 16"
bass - 22"
palitin na drum heads ko.
ask ko na rin kung paano mag tune nun. first time ko po.
salamat
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bro, IMO, unahin mo snare, invest on a remo or evans batter head sa snare would cost around 600-800 remo coated ambassador.. estimate ko lang po.. sa evans, hindi ko lang alam.. hehe.. then ipon ka ulit.. sabay sabay mo bilhin yung 12 13 16 heads ng tom.. Remo pins if you like fat sound.. tas huli na yung Bass drum.. my two centimoz
cheers!!!
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Hi
Planning to buy Heads - snare 14" toms 13" & 14" & 16"
Bass Heads di na muna..
Ok sna Evans, Jason Bittner uses dem
For heavy tugtugan kasi ung kit ko.
Appreciate some suggestions with details.
thanks much
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Im having difficulty choosing a batter head for my PDP 850 snare.
Right now Im using it's stock heads, sabi nila REMO din daw me gawa nun. (don't know kung totoo).
I wanted to change kahit the batter head muna.
My snare is a 13 x 4 in. And usually sa church ko ito ginagamit, mga Hillsongs type of music. Medyo me pagka Contemporary din.
Help naman kung anong magandang heads for this kind of genre and for this snare.
REMO or EVANS? I think coated yung kukunin ko pero which brand and what model....medyo madami kasi.
Thanks
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depende sa gusto mo brader....
pero evans heads works for me. naka 14" reverse power dot center ako and very flexible sya sa iba-ibang genre.... syanga pala naka 14" snare side hazy rin ako.... kaya ang lazer regal stock wood snare nagtutunog na maganda. hehehe. i was thinking of buying a custom-made picollo c/o peeves pero dahil sa time and availability and sa tunog na rin, nagbago isip ko, bili na lang ulit ako ng coated na evans para sa future picollo ko.... hehehe
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sir kung lowbudget and quality hanap mo, go for remo coated amb. very flexible din in any genre. i think 600+ sya pero 10 to 15% pa less nun sa jbmusic...so mas ok yun for me... :lol:
happy drumming!!! :lol:
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yup, kung budget-wise, medyo mas mura ang REMO, pero if you want unique-ness of sound, subukan mo mag-evans....
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yup, kung budget-wise, medyo mas mura ang REMO, pero if you want unique-ness of sound, subukan mo mag-evans....
yap!! tama rin...nga pla for resonant side kahit wag mo na palitan ung stock...batter nlng!!! :lol:
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yeah, yun nga rin napansin ko, pero nakabili ako ng evans hazy 300 snare side, for my custom snare sana pero nilagay ko sa stock snare ng lazer na regal at ang tunog nya mas maganda pa dun sa wood snare na yamaha, naka remo amb tsaka stock reso. ewan ko, baka sa tuning lang hehehe.... pero basically, lahat ng nakikihiram ng snare ko sabi eh sarap daw ng tunog hehehe....
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I'd go for remo. :-D
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ill fo with evans... evans ST for snare u cant go wrong with it ...
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my preference and recommendation:
Remo for Toms: i.e. Emperor clear, Pinstripe clear [batter]; Ambassador [reso]
Evans for Snare: i.e. EC with dot, ST Dry vented [batter]; Hazy 200 [reso]
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I decided to merge the "All About Drumheads thread" with this "Remo vs. Evans" thread. I hope you don't mind, bro bulog.
Read the previous posts in this thread for further ideas and discussions. There's an open poll above regarding drumhead brand preferences. 8-)
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No prob po Sir drumster, di ko po kasi napuna itong thread na ito.
Hay...I bought REMO Coated Ambassador 13 in for 580 php.
Ang hirap pala maghanap ng EVANS heads. Out of stock sa Audiophile Alimall. Naghanap din me sa RAON shops, meron sila puro clear and nasa 650 php lang, with box pa.
Pero coated kasi hanap ko, ung G1 sana pero, dahil wa na time to search, I go with REMO na lang.
Di ko pa lang po na install...maybe later after work, try ko muna kung mas okay tunog kaysa sa stock coated head ng PDP.
Totoo po ba na PDP heads are made by REMO din????
Thanks
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question po, ano pong mgndang resonant na remo?malaking difference po ba pg pinstripe batter ako tpos stock pearl resonant kesa remo resonant?chka sa bassdrum po ok na po ba pinstripe?o my ibang mas bagay pa sa bass drum?salamat po
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i prefer evans drum heads :)
prefer:
toms:g2 coated/g1 clear
snare:ST/glass500 or hazy 300
bass drum: any EQ3/EMAD/POWERSTRoke 3 would do/Stock reso
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good day sir.
is it ok to loosen the head's tension in each drum
kung medyo matagal hindi gagamitin, in short
itatago na muna. :-) or
just leave it that way na stretched yun mga heads.
thanks
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good day sir.
is it ok to loosen the head's tension in each drum
kung medyo matagal hindi gagamitin, in short
itatago na muna. :-) or
just leave it that way na stretched yun mga heads.
thanks
If you prefer to loosen them before storing go ahead, there's nothing wrong with that; but also leaving them as is prolly won't damage it in anyway. :wink:
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If you're not going to use your drum for a long time, I suggest that you detune/loosen the tension of the drumheads. That should relieve some tension from the hoops and tension lugs.
I learned this the hard way. There was this period of time when I didn't use my 14" Tama Starclassic snare. I just kept it at home and left its tight batter tension. After a couple of months, I decided to use that snare. There I noticed that the tuning seemed weird, and I can't get the sound I want from it. When I got home, there I discovered that my hoop got warped. This is due to stress. I can't believe it happened, considering that my snare is fitted with a die-cast hoop. I had to order a new hoop for that drum.
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Remo Coated ambasador and pinstripe does the job for me... hehehe
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May nagbebenta po ba ng clear ambassadors or diplomats sa Pilipinas?
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my nakagamit na po ba ng powersonic sa inyo?ok po ba?salamat :-)
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may nafeel ako sa pagpalo ng Emperor X coated sa batter ko sa snare, pagnagmoeller ka parang minamagnet ng batter yung stick hindi siya masyado tumatalbog, naadjust ko naman siya sa tama na adjustment ng skin. maganda tunog niya pero yun nga lang hindi ko makuha yung desired ko na talbog. ok siya pang metal. mag aadjust ka nalang ng technique ulit para mapatalbog mo siya sa gusto mo hehehe.
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magkano ba ang lazer 2-ply na 22" (kung meron)? nabutas nung isang araw yung bd head ko kaya kelangan na palitan e. thanks.
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ok po ba yung remo encore na heads? ano po ba yung sulit na heads na mura lang?
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ok po ba sa snare ung Remo Emperor X ?.
malakas po kasi ako pumalo.ano po pwede snare side neto?
sa tom naman po ok po ba ang remo Pinstripes?
ano po pwedeng tom side nito?
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Yep, Emperor X isa a nice option sa batter side. You get durability at the expense of overtones, which can be a good or a bad thing. Snare-side... stick to thin heads like Remo Snareside, Diplomat.. etc.
Pinstripes naman, it's good for indoor use or outdoor use OR outdoor use WITH close-miking. Good low sound, and the durability is there. Large venues are a no-no though, since to the audience, you'll get a dead sound.
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Yep, Emperor X isa a nice option sa batter side. You get durability at the expense of overtones, which can be a good or a bad thing. Snare-side... stick to thin heads like Remo Snareside, Diplomat.. etc.
Pinstripes naman, it's good for indoor use or outdoor use OR indoor use WITH close-miking. Good low sound, and the durability is there. Large venues are a no-no though, since to the audience, you'll get a dead sound.
tnx sa advice sir sjon.
ok na ko sa emperor x para sa snare.
pinagpipilian ko po kung coated ba sa tom or hindi?ano po mas maganda quality at ano po mas durable?
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Yep, Emperor X isa a nice option sa batter side. You get durability at the expense of overtones, which can be a good or a bad thing. Snare-side... stick to thin heads like Remo Snareside, Diplomat.. etc.
Pinstripes naman, it's good for indoor use or outdoor use OR indoor use WITH close-miking. Good low sound, and the durability is there. Large venues are a no-no though, since to the audience, you'll get a dead sound.
Pinstripes pang indoor/ pag outdoor lalagyan ng mic? men malabo ata yan.. madami na akong nakitang setup na naka pinstripes pero hataw pa din ang tunog mapa indoor or outdoor... I'm sorry pero hindi ako agree dito men.. and besides (no flames nor sarcasm). naka gamit na ako ng ibat ibang skins sa toms pero PINSTRIPES padin gusto ko bro.. mapa indoor or outdoor..
Maybe it's just me... pero Pinstripes ako indoor or outdoor!! :-D
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ok po ba sa snare ung Remo Emperor X ?.
malakas po kasi ako pumalo.ano po pwede snare side neto?
sa tom naman po ok po ba ang remo Pinstripes?
ano po pwedeng tom side nito?
The way I see it, using coated heads on the toms gives it warmth. That's why most people use coated on their snare batters.
I don't think there are coated Pinstripes locally though. If you want 2-ply coated heads, try Aquarians - the Super 2's and Performance 2's in particular. They're a bit more expensive locally (900 for a 10") , but they seem to be really good heads. (Based solely on the "tap-test" na pinagawa sakin sa store haha)
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Pinstripes pang indoor/ pag outdoor lalagyan ng mic? men malabo ata yan.. madami na akong nakitang setup na naka pinstripes pero hataw pa din ang tunog mapa indoor or outdoor... I'm sorry pero hindi ako agree dito men.. and besides (no flames nor sarcasm). naka gamit na ako ng ibat ibang skins sa toms pero PINSTRIPES padin gusto ko bro.. mapa indoor or outdoor..
Maybe it's just me... pero Pinstripes ako indoor or outdoor!! :-D
Opinion noted - after all, everybody has one. :-D
Share ko lang ang experiences ko sa Pinstripes. Iba ang "driver seat" sound nya sa "audience" sound. And ganun ang dating sakin ng Pinstripes. I was experimenting on miking my drumkit using condensers only, and the pinstripes weren't very good at cutting through. I was using a large-diaphragm Samson too. My PDP single-ply medium coated (which are cheap and underrated heads IMO) did a better job of opening up, but from the driver's seat, I had more overtones.
Also, does anyone remember how dead the floor tom in Mayrics' old house kit sounded? That was a Pinstripe. :lol:
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solve na ako sa Remo men... ty for the info though..
for me..
Pag snare - Ambasador or Emperor X.
Toms/kick - Pinstripes
yung coated kasi eh..
1) hindi ko gusto yung tunog. parang ang lutong. (trabaho ng snare yung lutong diba!)
2) Madaling madumihan.
hard hitter "daw" ako sabi nila That is why hindi pa pinalalagyan ng mic yung drums pag may tugtog kami.. so maybe that is why bumagay yung pinstripes sakin.. nasa tuning na din yan men.. kung mababa (below sea level) ang pag ka tono ng pinstripe... eh mamamatay talaga ang tunog..
again, maybe it's just me... pero .. hope this helps..
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kung indoor.. pwede na ang single ply na head eh... kasi sa bahay namin naka single head lang ako.. (for practice lang) sayang kasi kung ma losyang yung Pinstripes! :-D :lol:
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Opinion noted - after all, everybody has one. :-D
Share ko lang ang experiences ko sa Pinstripes. Iba ang "driver seat" sound nya sa "audience" sound. And ganun ang dating sakin ng Pinstripes. I was experimenting on miking my drumkit using condensers only, and the pinstripes weren't very good at cutting through. I was using a large-diaphragm Samson too. My PDP single-ply medium coated (which are cheap and underrated heads IMO) did a better job of opening up, but from the driver's seat, I had more overtones.
Also, does anyone remember how dead the floor tom in Mayrics' old house kit sounded? That was a Pinstripe. :lol:
yup I agree sa pagiba ng tunog sa "driver seat" sa "audience" , this is also true with cymbals. Men ganyan din ako mag test.. and you can see from my previous post here at the board (specially sa cymbals) na I always stress na ...
Pakinggan nyo sa malapit, malayo, small room, big room.. para malaman nyo ang totoong tunog ng bibilhin nyo... :-D
Since "technically" you've tried some recording tweaks... How come in most DVD concerts eh madami padin naka pinstripes?? (no flames men, and don't get the wrong impression!). All I am saying here is, trust the pro (hindi ako pro men. what I mean by pro's is like metallica, linkin' park, RHCP, slipknot,etc). And besides, sa recording or Miking ng set eh hindi naman involve masyado ang heads??!?!! ang nag dadala nun eh yung mixing men. kahit PATAY ang sound ng heads eh pwede habulin sa mixer.. hmmm???!!!!? :?
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ganto bang miking ginawa mo men?
(http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr196/paeng16/pinstripe.jpg)
maganda naman ang naging sound ng pinstripes men..
Hope this helps and I hope you know where I am driving at.. :-D
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The way I see it, using coated heads on the toms gives it warmth. That's why most people use coated on their snare batters.
I don't think there are coated Pinstripes locally though. If you want 2-ply coated heads, try Aquarians - the Super 2's and Performance 2's in particular. They're a bit more expensive locally (900 for a 10") , but they seem to be really good heads. (Based solely on the "tap-test" na pinagawa sakin sa store haha)
tnx sir sa reply ulet.but i think pinstripes is more affordable than aquarian?2 toms lang po kasi gamit ko.isang 12" saka isang 16".
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last question.ano po mas magandang side head ng mga toms.mga diplomat po ba and clear?
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Since "technically" you've tried some recording tweaks... How come in most DVD concerts eh madami padin naka pinstripes?? (no flames men, and don't get the wrong impression!). All I am saying here is, trust the pro (hindi ako pro men. what I mean by pro's is like metallica, linkin' park, RHCP, slipknot,etc). And besides, sa recording or Miking ng set eh hindi naman involve masyado ang heads??!?!! ang nag dadala nun eh yung mixing men. kahit PATAY ang sound ng heads eh pwede habulin sa mixer.. hmmm???!!!!? :?
Pinstripes naman, it's good for indoor use or outdoor use OR outdoor use WITH close-miking. Good low sound, and the durability is there. Large venues are a no-no though, since to the audience, you'll get a dead sound.
Like I said in my post yesterday, Pinstripes are good for "close-miking". San ka ba naman nakakita ng concert lalo sa states na overhead condensers lang ang mics? The "pros" use a full close mic-ing setup, in addition to the overheads!
Don't get me wrong, I like the Pinstripe sound. Yan ang gamit ng acrylic toms ko ngayon. I'm just saying that every head has its boon and bane. Its strength and limitation. And even if I love how low my 'stripes sound, in some settings, I feel that I want my drums to open up a bit more. And it becomes all the more apparent in outdoor situations, or places where mic-ing is minimal or non-existent.
RE: Recording.. IMO, the heads have a lot to say about how your final sound will be. Also, it's easier to dampen excess overtones with an overly-ringy drum... ...than try to dig tone out of a dead drum. Kahit may outboard effects pa na naka-chain sa mixer.
Again, IMO lang lahat 'to ha. :lol:
last question.ano po mas magandang side head ng mga toms.mga diplomat po ba and clear?
Remo Ambassador Clears are good na. If you want to go the cheap route, try the Fernando Remoes na single ply. Around 180 pesos on average. If you want a step above, look for PDP clear single ply heads. Kahit yung medium with the coated ring, OK na yun. 300 pesos naman 'to. :-D
Regarding Aquarian prices, mas mahal ng around 100-200 ang Aquarian sa US Remo. But you have the option of Taiwan Remo Encore Pinstripes, which IMO are the same film with a slightly substandard ring-attachment technique. Much much cheaper though. Mga 300 ang 12".
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meron po bang ambassador na clear na 22'?
ok po ba yung remo encore?
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Not sure if there are 22" Clear Ambs locally. Up to 16", sure na meron. Check mo sa JB. :lol:
As for Remo Encore - it's the same film as the Remo US heads. Yung mounting lang ng skin sa ring ang pinagkaiba ng US sa Taiwan. Ang available lang sa JB, Coated Ambassador and Pinstripes na Encore. Sound-wise, it's the same. Durability-wise, mas matibay yung Remo US of course - pero paniniwala ko, mauuna pang ma-dent or ma-wear-off yung head bago masira yung mounting ring. :lol:
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Not sure if there are 22" Clear Ambs locally. Up to 16", sure na meron. Check mo sa JB. :lol:
As for Remo Encore - it's the same film as the Remo US heads. Yung mounting lang ng skin sa ring ang pinagkaiba ng US sa Taiwan. Ang available lang sa JB, Coated Ambassador and Pinstripes na Encore. Sound-wise, it's the same. Durability-wise, mas matibay yung Remo US of course - pero paniniwala ko, mauuna pang ma-dent or ma-wear-off yung head bago masira yung mounting ring. :lol:
pero pwede na po ba yun?
balak ko po kasi yun ang bibilin ko or ambassador...
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Pwedeng-pwede. :lol: I use PS Encores on my toms, tunog Pinstripes naman haha. Basta on a budget, either Remo Encore or PDP is the way to go. :-D
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ah ok thank... magkano po ba yung encore ps head? mas mahal yun diba?
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10" is 250, 14" is 300. Parang ganun. :-D
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ah ok mas mahal yng encore n ps head kaysa encore n parang ambassador...
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Have to agree with sjon regarding pinstripe opinions. don't get me wrong, i love the pinstripe sound, but it doesn't open up the way a single ply head does. =)
and as for the micing. sorry paengman, the heads do say a lot for the drums sound with regards to the micing. :)
just my two cents.
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observation ko lang:
all heads 'open up' if tuned correctly for a specific drum. single ply heads give the impression of being more open because they have more high frequencies present because they are less muffled than pinstripes or other multicoated/multilayered heads
you cant put a pinstripe on a 2008 tama superstar tom and expect it to sound as huge as a 1970's ludwig floor tom. a head is incomplete without the shell, the hoops and everything else that makes up a drum.
kaya personal na opinion ko: its useless to argue about heads if you dont factor in the drum you will use it on. then there's also your personal bias and preferences which also makes it impossible for anyone to agree so lets agree to disagree :-D
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sir peeves24
ok po ba yung remo encore? balak ko po kasing bumili ng ddrum na set tapos remo encore yung kakabit ko... ok na po ba yun?
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(ahhh hahaba na itong thread mga bro! :lol:)
Sige let's agree to disagree nalang sabi nga ni peeves. :wink:
@ raLpH_pEtRucCi
Dude.. hindi ko ata na explain ng maayos or in detail yung drum head sa recording.. pero hindi ko na i-explain bro.. hahaba lang yung thread.. someday makaka punta ka din sa studio na halos walang sound yung drum heads then you will understand what I am saying.. (no flames no sarcasm, experience is the best teacher sabi nga nila) :wink:
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sir peeves24
ok po ba yung remo encore? balak ko po kasing bumili ng ddrum na set tapos remo encore yung kakabit ko... ok na po ba yun?
ok na yung remo encore, lazer nga ok na e kung gusto mo lang magexperiment sa tunog ng drums. mura kasi nung single ply coated nila at nung clear single ply pero namamahalan lang ako sa double ply nila, mag remo encore ka na lang kung pinstripe/double ply ang gusto mo
yung ddrum, nakow hanap ka na lang ng iba kung yung low end model lang din yung kukunin mo. yung dominion models nila ok
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may EMperor X with CS reverse dot ako, pansin ko lang parang hindi ko makuha yung crack at atake na gusto ko comment naman salamat
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because its too muffled
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ok na yung remo encore, lazer nga ok na e kung gusto mo lang magexperiment sa tunog ng drums. mura kasi nung single ply coated nila at nung clear single ply pero namamahalan lang ako sa double ply nila, mag remo encore ka na lang kung pinstripe/double ply ang gusto mo
yung ddrum, nakow hanap ka na lang ng iba kung yung low end model lang din yung kukunin mo. yung dominion models nila ok
yng diablo nga po yung balak ko, yun kasi pinaka mura eh... pero ok lang po ba yun?
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Wag! Haha. The hardware (kahit floating tom mounts pa yun) is bad. May nagreklamo na sa forums about the brackets cracking. Itsura pa lang ng hardware, parang laruan eh. Plus I think yang Diablo yung may 15" tom? It's not easy to find heads for that.
Try to find a Birch Fernando (Holo/Celluloid) kung meron pa. Mas solid yun! Or stop by your nearest Lazer and ask about the Reverse9 Basix Custom birch kit. 27k ata yung price nun.
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Wag! Haha. The hardware (kahit floating tom mounts pa yun) is bad. May nagreklamo na sa forums about the brackets cracking. Itsura pa lang ng hardware, parang laruan eh. Plus I think yang Diablo yung may 15" tom? It's not easy to find heads for that.
Try to find a Birch Fernando (Holo/Celluloid) kung meron pa. Mas solid yun! Or stop by your nearest Lazer and ask about the Reverse9 Basix Custom birch kit. 27k ata yung price nun.
nako hindi po kaya ng budget ko yun... brackets? yun po ba yung ng hohold sa tom? 16 po ata yung floor tom nya...
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because its too muffled
ano magandang remedyo sir peeves? ok lang ba kung tangalin ko yung reverse dot nya? :lol:
baka naman maging "pongy" ang tunog
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keep it as it is. itabi mo na lang kung may iba kang paggagamitan
bili ka na lang ng ambassador or cs coated
kung ayaw mo ng openness ng ambassador, try mo evans genera dry coated
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keep it as it is. itabi mo na lang kung may iba kang paggagamitan
bili ka na lang ng ambassador or cs coated
kung ayaw mo ng openness ng ambassador, try mo evans genera dry coated
yup thanks master sa advice ! :wink:
mag ambassador nalang ako
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(ahhh hahaba na itong thread mga bro! :lol:)
Sige let's agree to disagree nalang sabi nga ni peeves. :wink:
@ raLpH_pEtRucCi
Dude.. hindi ko ata na explain ng maayos or in detail yung drum head sa recording.. pero hindi ko na i-explain bro.. hahaba lang yung thread.. someday makaka punta ka din sa studio na halos walang sound yung drum heads then you will understand what I am saying.. (no flames no sarcasm, experience is the best teacher sabi nga nila) :wink:
I know exactly what you mean. another thing, I DO record drums in a studio. and I know stuff about post production and mixing. and also, I'm not saying you're wrong, its just that its too much of a hassle to do post production just to produce that DESIRED sound rather than just trying to tweak the heads and tuning of the drum.
and I've been to several professional recording studios that have dead-sounding drums, and they are planning to change their heads from thick ones, to single ply ones. case in point, AUDITIONS AUDIO SOLUTIONS, Katipunan QC. This a studio where SOP(yes, the GMA sunday concert show) records their tracks.
I don't know, it seems like you're the more experienced one on the field anyway. it's just my opinion. after all, im young and still not that experienced in drumming.
as you've said, no flames. just my two cents.
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Mahaba habang kwentuhan na to ah!!! Order na ako San Mig Lights bro!! :-D :lol: (MODs. Sorry sa OT) :lol:
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Kung header feak ka, powerstroke ka na lang.. :evil: :evil:
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ok lang po ba remo coated ambassador sa mga toms and bass drum?
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IMO, ma-overtones sa toms (at least sa old kit ko), pero buhay. Very warm, very resonant.
Sa bass drum naman... hindi ko mapatunog ng maayos yung Ambassador. :lol:
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Sa bass drum naman... hindi ko mapatunog ng maayos yung Ambassador. :lol:[/color]
ako din! haha. hindi ko din alam kung panu i-mu-muffle ng matino.
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IMO, ma-overtones sa toms (at least sa old kit ko), pero buhay. Very warm, very resonant.
Sa bass drum naman... hindi ko mapatunog ng maayos yung Ambassador. :lol:
pano pong hindi mapatunog? pero ok lang po all coated ambassador lahat?
kelan po makukuha yung lanyard? hehehe
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pano pong hindi mapatunog? pero ok lang po all coated ambassador lahat?
kelan po makukuha yung lanyard? hehehe
Yun, same pala kami ni bro drumachine. :lol: Parang ang hirap i-timpla ng tuning + muffling ng Ambassador sa bass drum. Either kweba or patay. :lol: Kaya I tend to choose other heads sa bass. Pero yung snare and toms from 10" to 16"... I've had solid results with coated ambs.
RE:Lanyard. Pag 50% na nag-down, oorderin ko na. :-D
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ah ok pero ok lang kaya coated ambassador s bass?
yes existed na ko eh, hehehe :-D
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Hindi ko sasabihing "hindi okay" kasi sakin lang naman di gumana.
But there was this Remo Ambassador on a 22" Premier Cabria Bass with minimal muffling in a rehearsal studio we frequented. Sarap tumunog! So yes, kahit ano naman pwede eh. Preference lang talaga. Para san pa ang 22" size ng Coated ambs, diba?:lol:
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hehehe... yun na po ba pinaka murang heads na ok?
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Mahaba habang kwentuhan na to ah!!! Order na ako San Mig Lights bro!! :-D :lol: (MODs. Sorry sa OT) :lol:
hahaha! =) oo man, ung below ZERO, tska sisig. YUMMMMM =)
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hehehe... yun na po ba pinaka murang heads na ok?
Hmm. Mura din naman Encore na Pinstripe eh. Or kung gusto mo pa ng choices, meron ring PDP! May coated sila, may clear with coated rings, etc.
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Hmm. Mura din naman Encore na Pinstripe eh. Or kung gusto mo pa ng choices, meron ring PDP! May coated sila, may clear with coated rings, etc.
double ply din yun?
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Pinstripes? Yep. Yung PDP, hinde. Although may konting muffling yung single clears nila with coated rings. Not sure kung may double-ply clears sa Lyric.
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Pinstripes? Yep. Yung PDP, hinde. Although may konting muffling yung single clears nila with coated rings. Not sure kung may double-ply clears sa Lyric.
ah ok thanks...
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may nakaexperience na ba nito?
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009652.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009649.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009651.jpg)
stock batter head ng sonor special edition. hehe. pero hindi ako ang nakabutas, utol ko. haha. ang ingat sa gamit noh? wahaha!
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IMO, ma-overtones sa toms (at least sa old kit ko), pero buhay. Very warm, very resonant.
Sa bass drum naman... hindi ko mapatunog ng maayos yung Ambassador. :lol:
Mga Sir, try ninyo yung Super Kick Series ng Aquarian... when you install it, take out everything inside the bass drum and tanggalin nyo rin kung may muffling kayong nakadikit sa resonant head. plugged or unplugged, ayos yung tunog! Madali pa itono at sobrang tibay! (sa aking exprience po)
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may nakaexperience na ba nito?
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009652.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009649.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009651.jpg)
stock batter head ng sonor special edition. hehe. pero hindi ako ang nakabutas, utol ko. haha. ang ingat sa gamit noh? wahaha!
graba naman yan sir...
meron na po ba dito naka butas na ng coated ambassador?
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Yup nangyari sakin twice on a 14" coated ambassador..
One of the reasons besides sound quality, why nag switch ako to Evans, won't go back to Remo ever again :lol:
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I've had three Coated Ambassadors on different snares, and an Evans Genera Dry. They say heavy hitter ako, pero di pa 'ko nakakapunit. Lagi lang worn out yung coating sa middle portion ng Ambs ko.
Kaya that picture is rather surprising. :lol:
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Yup nangyari sakin twice on a 14" coated ambassador..
One of the reasons besides sound quality, why nag switch ako to Evans, won't go back to Remo ever again :lol:
ano po ba grnra nyo?
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Death Metal side sir hehe..
Yung iba alam na yung history ng remo na pinapasok sa bansa natin..
Pangit na yung bago na shipment tagal na issue na to hehe
USA noon if i can recall taiwan na ngayon
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As far as I know...
The Remo Weatherking Ambassadors in JB are all US-made. It's only the Encore Ambassadors which are made in Taiwan.
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As far as I know...
The Remo Weatherking Ambassadors in JB are all US-made. It's only the Encore Ambassadors which are made in Taiwan.
yap yun din yung pag kaalam ko...
ok lang ba all coated ambassador sa lahat? snare toms ang bass?
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yap yun din yung pag kaalam ko...
ok lang ba all coated ambassador sa lahat? snare toms ang bass?
oo naman! nasa preference mo yun bro! :wink:
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FYI pinoydrum peeps needing new heads, good news! up to 45% off ang remo heads while up to 30% off naman ang evans sa HIMIG Lakas sale ng JB. :-D
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FYI pinoydrum peeps needing new heads, good news! up to 45% off ang remo heads while up to 30% off naman ang evans sa HIMIG Lakas sale ng JB. :-D
WOW!!! cool yan ah! kaso limited stocks parin ang evans sa kanila. :|
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FYI pinoydrum peeps needing new heads, good news! up to 45% off ang remo heads while up to 30% off naman ang evans sa HIMIG Lakas sale ng JB. :-D
may evans na rin sa jb?
oo naman! nasa preference mo yun bro! :wink:
thanks bro... kasi nag dadalawang isip ako, yung coated kumukupas... :-D
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may evans na rin sa jb?
thanks bro... kasi nag dadalawang isip ako, yung coated kumukupas... :-D
Matagal nang may Evans ang JB. :-D Pero mas marami atang models (Black, Hydraulics) ang Audiophile, at least yung branch sa MoA.
About worn-out coated ambs, OK lang naman eh. As long as you don't dent the thing. A coated ambassador with the coating removed will (I'm guessing) sound like a clear ambassador - which is used din naman for toms. Difference lang siguro is medyo translucent yung actual film ng coated. :lol:
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ano po ba pinaka murang model ng evans?
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saan na napunta yung mga music store sa Timezone ng SM north? haha! pumunta akong Annex eh hindi ko maikita.
Balak ko na bumili ng bagong skin para sa metal sanre ko. hehe. Black hydraulics o Clear pinstripe? yoko kasi ng super over tone eh kaya mas matimbang sakin yung pinstripe. Pero may instances, gusto kong bumili ng ambassador. hehe.
anu kayang better pang reso side na?
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sir kimpoy, baka cyberzone? AFAIK, ala timezone sa SM eh. hehe. yung lazer, lyric at yamaha, nasa taas ng north edsa main. yung audiophile lang nawala.
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ano po ba pinaka murang model ng evans?
G1=coated ambassador, mahal lang ng konte ang evans, dati pa may evans, nauna pa audiophile sa JB
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oo nga noh. Cyberzone. haha. Peste naman. :lol:
pahiya ako dun. haha
wala bang napunta sa annex? saan na napunta yung Audiophile na galing sa cyberzone? bakit nawala?
saan pala sa taas makikita yung Lazer, lyric at yamaha?
Guys, paano ko ba itotono tong snare ko, hirap ako sa Emperor X. Ewan ko kung bakit ganun yung tunog. :-) :-)
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G1=coated ambassador, mahal lang ng konte ang evans, dati pa may evans, nauna pa audiophile sa JB
ah G1 po b yung pinaka mura ng evas?
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ano po ba mas mura G1 or genera?
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wala bang napunta sa annex? saan na napunta yung Audiophile na galing sa cyberzone? bakit nawala?
saan pala sa taas makikita yung Lazer, lyric at yamaha?
Guys, paano ko ba itotono tong snare ko, hirap ako sa Emperor X. Ewan ko kung bakit ganun yung tunog. :-) :-)
nasa main building sila bro. sa top floor. yung lazer at yamaha, malapit sa quantum, yung lyric, nasa kabilang dulo. :-D
ano bang ginagamit mo na snare bro?
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Mga sir, a couple of things po.
1) Always be careful with the heads you buy. check them first.
- Went to Audiophile Manila. I was gonna buy Hazy 300's and Power center for my snare. Yung coating ng power center mejo may tama at tanggal na. Audiophile is a great store. Hindi na nila kasalanan pero minsan meron talaga lumulusot an deffective items.
2) Tanong ko lang, meron na ba Emperor heads for snares dito? CS may nakita ako pero pang 13" lang.
THanks!
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matagal po ba mabutas ang remo na coated??
pag kalbong kalbo na po ba mawawala na sa tono??
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nasa main building sila bro. sa top floor. yung lazer at yamaha, malapit sa quantum, yung lyric, nasa kabilang dulo. :-D
ano bang ginagamit mo na snare bro?
gamit ko? ewan ko ngsa tatak nun. Haha. Made in Japan yun, Maya siguro,
wala kasing nakalagay, 5.5x16" siguro yung size nun. Pero maganda tunog niya, gusto ko nga alamin kung anong brand nun eh.
Gamit kong head is Emperor X, kaso yung reso ko, Stock lang from SX drums. :-D
wala akong pambili eh.
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Sir ptulong naman ako anu ba mgndang REMO heads para sa drums? pki lista namn po mhal na mhal ko kac tong drumset ko ee :)
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Mga boss ano mas maganda remo vs. aquarian? parang mas maganda aquarian at paki sabi ung pros and cons nman nila
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Sir ptulong naman ako anu ba mgndang REMO heads para sa drums? pki lista namn po mhal na mhal ko kac tong drumset ko ee :)
bro try to back read this thread, masasagot yang query mo. :wink:
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i use remo ambassador.. very durable sya :-)
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tanong lang, mga magkano ang coated ambassador at CS Dot?
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tanong lang, mga magkano ang coated ambassador at CS Dot?
Gud pm sir!yun coated ambassador ata around 600 to 700.Cs dot mas mahal pero wala na sa JB,Their not sure kung magkakaron pa cla ng CS dot, cause' they have a new EVANS product.(Hope this help)...Anyway back to topic I'm using an AQUARIAN HEADS,for my 13'inch snare I'm using a TCPD(texture coated power dot)and for my 14'inch I'm using a HI-VELOCITY po.
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For me I choose Remo as my drumheads..
kasi masarap paking-gan yung tunog nya...
Yung Evans ok naman...
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san po ba nakakabili ng set na evans drumhead (12,13,16")?? :?
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knina nkabili ku ng evans genera G1 coated for 595php lng 30%off kc lhat ng evans s may parksquare...
ung original price nya 850php... sulit n rin....
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mga bros.. i like how the kit of mike portnoy sound... anu mga gamit niang heads mga men?
very lively kc ang tunog at the same time round... talagang focused...
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mga bros.. i like how the kit of mike portnoy sound... anu mga gamit niang heads mga men?
very lively kc ang tunog at the same time round... talagang focused...
Depends sir which album you are talking about. old ones, gamit nya pinstripes. these days, emperor's na. Snare pareho pa din. CS coated
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may nakaexperience na ba nito?
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009652.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009649.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/mekok_17/drumheads/03102009651.jpg)
stock batter head ng sonor special edition. hehe. pero hindi ako ang nakabutas, utol ko. haha. ang ingat sa gamit noh? wahaha!
yes sir.ganyan na ganyan nangyari sa snare ko.