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Title: Can't afford Moon gels??? here's an alternative! NOW WITH PICTURES!
Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 15, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
Just want to share to others, well we all know that moon gels are going to cost us about 300php to 500php a pack... so here's an alternative... I just recently thought of this... There's a product of BOSTIK called "Blu Tack" ever heard of it? you can get it at a hardware store, ace hardware, handyman etc... costs about 50PHP per pack, and this is a reusable adhesive gum... shape it, stick it whatever you want! don't worry it wont ruin your heads kasi madali lang siya tanggalin, it's not so sticky naman and wont leave your head oily.. works just like a regular moon gel, the best part is you can shape it! It's your decision whether to put on a small dot for a more open drum sound or damp your head with bigger sized dot... Keep drumming fun!!!
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Post by: sandythedrummer on June 15, 2010, 05:38:20 PM
Hindi ba sha tumitigas agad? Washable ba sha?
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 15, 2010, 08:05:08 PM
nope, hindi siya tumitigas agad, no need to wash really, it's 100% removable, hindi kelangan kutkutin, dumidikit siya best sa kauri niya so get some more blutack or use the one you've already removed and collect pieces left sa head by "tapik tapik" gang sa sumama lahat ng natira dun sa pinangtapik mo, gets ba? hirap explain sa words.. parang rugby!!! but i don't think you'll have this kind of problem kasi madali lang talaga tanggalin, I've used it on practice kanina (mga kasinglaki ng thumbnail ginamit ko, pressed it sa upper left side of my snare drum head then viola! instant) tas nung tapos nako practice siyempre kelangan tanggalin, you don't want to leave it there, even moon gels will rot kapag iniwan buong gabi nakalagay sa drum, it dries out right? so SOP remove after playing.. un lang..
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Post by: dolfmen on June 15, 2010, 09:51:51 PM
ok to nakagamit na ko ng ganito,  :-D kaso iba iba yung kulay kung ma-arte ka talo ka, hah parang pink ,green, blue etc ata mga kulay nito e,di ko lang sure kung may 1 kulay lang per pack.  :lol:
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Post by: pmack on June 15, 2010, 09:53:11 PM
ok to nakagamit na ko ng ganito,  :-D kaso iba iba yung kulay kung ma-arte ka talo ka, hah parang pink ,green, blue etc ata mga kulay nito e,di ko lang sure kung may 1 kulay lang per pack.  :lol:

meron. blue.
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 15, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
tama blue.. hehehe blue nga ung akin hehehe i originally bought it para sa mga battery caps ng mp3 player ko, kasi kapag nasira na ung lock ginagamitan ko ng blutack... then kanina naisip kong itry sa snare ko... aun... epektib mga bros and sis! hehe
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Post by: dolfmen on June 15, 2010, 10:00:45 PM
yun oh, :-D
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Post by: mambo on June 15, 2010, 10:42:10 PM
pwede rin siguro yung mga laruan ng bata. yung mga sticky na lizards, rats etc. heheh
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Post by: Gep on June 16, 2010, 08:12:25 AM
pwede rin siguro yung mga laruan ng bata. yung mga sticky na lizards, rats etc. heheh

Haha! Oo nga! Pati na rin yung binabato sa pader.
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Post by: yekoz on June 16, 2010, 11:13:30 AM
NICE idea...  :wink:
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Post by: unnailed on June 17, 2010, 02:44:38 PM
pics...  :-)
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Post by: jmdesign on June 17, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
i think you can also use foam tape... cost around 30-50 pesos at ace hardware.
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Post by: plitipiw40315 on June 17, 2010, 04:53:59 PM
pics...  :-)

+1
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Post by: jhayphay on June 17, 2010, 09:00:40 PM
brilliant! :-D
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 17, 2010, 10:19:33 PM
Sige mga bro! i'll post pictures tomorrow on how to use it... tsaka kung anung xura ng blu tack... don't have a decent video cam to make a video so i'll just use pictures... and explain..
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Post by: jhayphay on June 17, 2010, 10:21:21 PM
Sige mga bro! i'll post pictures tomorrow on how to use it... tsaka kung anung xura ng blu tack... don't have a decent video cam to make a video so i'll just use pictures... and explain..

aabangan namin yan! :-)
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Post by: waya_drum on June 18, 2010, 02:54:52 AM
pwede rin siguro yung mga laruan ng bata. yung mga sticky na lizards, rats etc. heheh

This thing worked like magic. I was reding this thread earlier, eh nag kataong may ganito yung anak ko, ayun, ninakaw ko! ang maganda pa dito ay di mo na problema mag shape, kasi hugis lizard na!

Downside is : Inaaway na ako ng anak ko!

OT: Namis ko tuloy yung chichirya na cheekadees!  :-P
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 18, 2010, 02:43:24 PM
Heto na mga pips! Pictures and instructions!

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0085.jpg)

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0086.jpg)

Ito and blutack... may tag pa nga eh.. 49.75 at handyman hardware...

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0087.jpg)

Take a sufficient amount...

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0088.jpg)

Roll it into a ball of gum... whatever you like

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0089.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0090.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0092.jpg)

place it where you want it and press it hard making sure na hindi siya tatalsik when you play...

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0094.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0096.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0095.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0097.jpg)
(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu125/bamfire_turtle/Blu%20Tack/Photo-0074.jpg)

Now to remove it, just roll it out... and if there are tiny pieces left, just take the piece that you've removed and roll on the piece that was left until all the tiny pieces left are gone...

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Post by: drummaniac on June 23, 2010, 08:58:28 AM
re-usable ba to? ilang gamitan kaya? i mean 3x or 4x na gamitin then tapon na..
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Post by: mahikawon666 on June 23, 2010, 12:02:47 PM
masubukan nga eto,mura pa
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 23, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
REUSABLE to! even more than 3 to 4 times... just keep it clean un lang ung secret... pagmalinis siya mas matagal ung lifespan niya... after use be sure to put it back dun sa waxed paper na balot niya (as seen on the third picture) I've been using it for years sa mp3 player ko to keep the lid intact, hindi ko padin pinapalitan, kasi kapag nadumihan hihina ung stickiness niya.. pagtumigas naman siya just massage it like a clay until lumambot ulit.. the bostik i used for the pictures are quite old na, i mean it's like a year and half old, and they still give the expected results... i think you could use them up to 20 times if they're not dirty... imagine how much you save, 20 times for just a piece of it, while you buy the entire pack for 50Php...
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Post by: pmack on June 23, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
just be sure to really stick it on to the head.
i had an experience sa gig last year. medyo napapasarap palo ko sa isang song bigay na bigay biglang tumalon yung blu tack. hehehe.
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 24, 2010, 12:46:46 AM
Ayan oh experienced user ng blutack haha as seen on the 6th picture, be sure to press it hard para hindi siya tatalsik! hehe happened to me once on my first try, solution "really stick it onto the head!" (the drumhead*not your head) or dagdagan ang amount na gagamitin, the more amount the more surface to stick onto... hehe
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Post by: skyjammer on June 24, 2010, 05:09:32 AM
Just wondering....

Pwede din kaya dito yung sticky toys na daga? hehe! Ma-try nga...  :-D :-D
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Post by: pmack on June 24, 2010, 11:16:54 AM
Ayan oh experienced user ng blutack haha as seen on the 6th picture, be sure to press it hard para hindi siya tatalsik! hehe happened to me once on my first try, solution "really stick it onto the head!" (the drumhead*not your head) or dagdagan ang amount na gagamitin, the more amount the more surface to stick onto... hehe

pero remember, the more you put on the head, mas madadampen yung tunog ng drum mo. don't sacrifice your desired sound para lang dumikit ng mabuti yung blu-tack sa drum head.
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Post by: paeng16 on June 24, 2010, 11:28:01 AM
ok yan pmack!!!   :-D

Pero ako I like yung may over tones padin!! :evil:   hehehe...

yung tunog kasi ng snare mo sa malapit (like drummer seat), eh minsan iba ang tunog nun sa malayo (like audience seat). thats why pag nag sound check kami pumupunta ako sa dulong upuan ng audience then pinapa palo ko para marinig ko (kung hindi naka mic yung kit).

hope this helps...
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 24, 2010, 12:08:47 PM
Haha apir tayo jan paeng16! gusto ko din ng may overtones... ganun din ginagawa namin during sound check, guys alam niyo ba ung feeling ng pinapasound check mo sa hindi marunong pumalo? haha they just couldn't get the best sound your snare has to offer kaya hirap magpasoundcheck... anyways, this is still just an alternative for moon gels, doesn't mean i or we don't like overtones, just sharing the idea... keep on drumming people! 8-)
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Post by: paeng16 on June 24, 2010, 12:52:30 PM
^
^
Amen!!  :-D

(Kahit sa Cymbals ganun din sound check ko! hehehe)
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 24, 2010, 03:18:03 PM
teka, sa cymbals??? haha anu babaguhin mong tunog dun? kung sakali... hahaha napaisip ako...  :? (siguro sa distance ng mic nyehehehe) joke lang, natawa lang ako sa sarili ko.. hahaha kunyari lalagyan din ng moon gel ung cymbal.. hehe
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Post by: vincher on June 24, 2010, 03:41:33 PM
ako nilalagyan ko ng moongel yung ride ko kung gusto ko mas dry yung sound nya.  :-D

teka, sa cymbals??? haha anu babaguhin mong tunog dun? kung sakali... hahaha napaisip ako...  :? (siguro sa distance ng mic nyehehehe) joke lang, natawa lang ako sa sarili ko.. hahaha kunyari lalagyan din ng moon gel ung cymbal.. hehe
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 24, 2010, 03:50:31 PM
wow talaga?! :-o hehe What cymbal are you using??
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Post by: skyjammer on June 24, 2010, 10:45:52 PM
ako nilalagyan ko ng moongel yung ride ko kung gusto ko mas dry yung sound nya.  :-D


+1
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Post by: vincher on June 25, 2010, 12:42:57 AM
k custom medium ride

wow talaga?! :-o hehe What cymbal are you using??
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 25, 2010, 12:48:50 AM
ow K custom n un ah.. hehe nice
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Post by: vincher on June 25, 2010, 01:13:53 AM
di naman dry ang k custom na medium. so pag kailangan ko maging dry yung sound nya nilalagyan ko ng moongel.
ow K custom n un ah.. hehe nice
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Post by: bamfire_turtle on June 25, 2010, 01:16:16 AM
i mean magandang cymbal...
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Post by: francisnuega on September 16, 2010, 09:57:21 AM
ayos toh! you prevented me from buying Moongel  :-D
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Post by: triple 6 on October 17, 2010, 06:17:51 AM
 :-o
panalo..
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Post by: pedros_canabis on October 25, 2010, 06:09:42 PM
di naman dry ang k custom na medium. so pag kailangan ko maging dry yung sound nya nilalagyan ko ng moongel.

Approve ako dito.  :-)
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Post by: sandythedrummer on October 26, 2010, 12:21:31 AM
ako nilalagyan ko ng moongel yung ride ko kung gusto ko mas dry yung sound nya.  :-D


Same here!
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Post by: paniska on October 27, 2010, 01:57:44 PM
haha ayos talga ito, kaso nung tumagal nagmukhang chewing gum hehe
but i still prefer this over moongels...
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Post by: pejadanza on November 11, 2010, 12:46:22 PM
na gamit ko na tong idea mo! thank you sir!
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Post by: gss on December 15, 2010, 04:57:44 PM
ayos toh! you prevented me from buying Moongel  :-D

Yup, same here.

Didn't know this thread existed until now...

My daughter has been using this just for anything, pinaglalaruan nya...she called it "sticky tacks"...it came in a pack with rainbow colors...nung tiningnan ko naisip ko pwedeng gawing muffler ng drums, ni hindi ko pa alam yung moon gels noon. I bought the black sticky tacks (around P 65 sa national bookstore). Good thing about it is you can experiment with the sizes since you can just tear off an amount at a time and just increase or lessen to suit your taste. When I got to know about moon gels, I always had this thought whether they really work and are much better than sticky tacks dahil ang gaganda ng review. Thanks to this thread wala na yung alinlangan na yan ngayon...
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Post by: gratitude_88 on December 16, 2010, 11:53:03 PM
Pwede! ayos to ah.matry nga sa to :-D
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Post by: pmack on December 17, 2010, 12:38:40 AM
i have recently purchase some moongel just to try it out.
of course, price-wise mas mahal yung moongel compared to blutack.
but sound-wise, ang layo ng lamang ng moongel.
at least, according to my ears as i was playing my snare on which i've put it on.

and, hindi siya tumatalon no matter how hard i hit.
at mas ok din siya tingnan hehe.

washable naman ang moongels. and like any part of the drumset, alagaan niyo lang at wag abusuhin, pwedeng tumagal ang isang pack ng moongel with constant use for over a year (maybe even more).

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Post by: vhinming on December 17, 2010, 12:59:29 AM
Agreed,.. all items is constructed in their specific purposes,..
although "blu tacks" feels like moon gels,

moon gels is specially made for a specific task,..

i have recently purchase some moongel just to try it out.
of course, price-wise mas mahal yung moongel compared to blutack.
but sound-wise, ang layo ng lamang ng moongel.
at least, according to my ears as i was playing my snare on which i've put it on.

and, hindi siya tumatalon no matter how hard i hit.
at mas ok din siya tingnan hehe.

washable naman ang moongels. and like any part of the drumset, alagaan niyo lang at wag abusuhin, pwedeng tumagal ang isang pack ng moongel with constant use for over a year (maybe even more).


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Post by: jckazs on December 18, 2010, 07:17:24 PM
i have recently purchase some moongel just to try it out.
of course, price-wise mas mahal yung moongel compared to blutack.
but sound-wise, ang layo ng lamang ng moongel.
at least, according to my ears as i was playing my snare on which i've put it on.

and, hindi siya tumatalon no matter how hard i hit.
at mas ok din siya tingnan hehe.

washable naman ang moongels. and like any part of the drumset, alagaan niyo lang at wag abusuhin, pwedeng tumagal ang isang pack ng moongel with constant use for over a year (maybe even more).



puede ba gupitin yung moongel to control yung dryness ng tone?
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Post by: vhinming on December 18, 2010, 09:31:09 PM
puede ba gupitin yung moongel to control yung dryness ng tone?

pwede naman po sta idikit half part sa skin, half part sa rim,.. or your choice how much surface you want to sit in your batter  :-)