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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: drummerboy827 on July 30, 2006, 12:18:43 PM
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double peds na ako!!! lalo na iron cobra
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2 bass is a pain in the ass pag tune mo pareho. pero i like 2 bass.
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may kanya kanya namang choice ang drummers jan. ako, siguro dobol peds na lang kasi may convenienve factor ito para sa akin. :D
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OT question: meron ba kayong kilala na naka double bass? i have yet to see somebody locally with 2 bass drums
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Magastos ang double bass e, pero balita ko mas balanced ang feel niya compared sa double pedal.
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OT question: meron ba kayong kilala na naka double bass? i have yet to see somebody locally with 2 bass drums
ako naka dobol bass. pro binabalik ko din sa single kasi hindi na kasya sa kwarto ko. yung drums kasi ng friend ko andito eh. yun nga lang iba kulay
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Pare hassel sa gig yan pag double bass... tagal mo mag set up... tapos ang dami mong dala...
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Double bass is more of a logistic problem because you need to lug around 2 bass drums, you need 2 sets of kick mics (and that's an extra track in the mixing board), you need to tune them as similar as possible (except when it's not same in size or if you want both drums not to sound the same), and it takes a good amount of floor space.
I haven't tried playing a double bass kit yet, but I would love to if I have the chance. Mas solid nga daw ang feel.
I have an old Modern Drummer magazine which discussed this topic - double bass vs. double pedal. I can't remember which issue. If I could find that article, I'll try to post some excerpts of opinions from different drummers like Mike Portnoy, Virgil Donati, Simon Phillips, etc.
Personally, I prefer double pedals. It's convenient, and it's what I'm already used to. And with today's technology and design improvements, double pedals are much better nowadays.
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its more like asking na ano mas gusto mo dalin sa gig... double peds or another bass drum???? hehehehe.... isipin mo papunta ka ng gig me dala kang bass drum :cry: :cry: :cry:
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I don't know about playability but double bass kits look grooovy:
(http://www.sometimelater.com/keith_moon_lilli_kit.jpg.w560h476.jpg)
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This is for bangbus and others who want to find out how to move the Hi-hat stand closer to the left bass pedal.
I use a Pearl HA 100 Hihat to bass drum attachment
and Pearl AX 20 Dual Quick release clamp
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9908/clamps001br2.jpg)
attach the clamp on the left bass drum...ingat lang kasi nagkaka mark ang finish so if you want put a tape on the area where you want it placed.
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5848/clamps002no2.jpg)
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Next you can attach the Z rod to the clamp like this
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1382/clamps003rh1.jpg)
The next picture will show you what you need to attach to the Z rod and that will also serve to connect with the AX 20 dual clamp.
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3537/clamps004nv0.jpg)
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The last picture shows the AX 20 clamp is attached to the Hi-hat stand, plus the other end is clamped on to the Z rod.
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1890/clamps005zo5.jpg)
Just remember since you only folded the legs that will give you limited options on how to angle your Hi-hat pedal. Also make sure that the stand is balance/straight. You need to make sure you're protecting the bass hoops against too much weight.
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Bangbus and fellow drummers hope this helps you on what you need to know. If not hey just send me a reply and I'll try to help the best way I can.
(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2505/driversvu7.jpg)
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Hi Rex, thank you so much for your prompt reply! I will go down to my local drum retailer today and get one as I badly need it to accomplish a double bass setup like your tight kit! This the last thing that I need after recently acquiring an additional left floor tom. I'll send you pix when i'm done. Once again Rex thank you for hooking me up!
Best regards to you and your family there in WI!
:D
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No problemo...glad to help! Yah as soon as you have pictures of your set post it here.
Keep drummin!
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sir ano po ung para muffle dun sa bass drum? san nkakabili nun?
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that is part of the drumhead> The model of the bass batter skin is EVANS EMAD (Externally Mounted Adjustable Damping). the EMAD comes with 2 variants (thin and thick) of muffling foam that you slide into a circular frame attached to the head :P
check the signature of bangbus, may closeup snap ata also of his emad. :P
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ask ko lang kung lahat ba ng 2 bass user's eh ganyan ang ginagawa???
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ask ko lang kung lahat ba ng 2 bass user's eh ganyan ang ginagawa???
that specific part is highly recommended to bring the hihat stand next or as close as possible to the left bass drum pedal. if you are particular like bangbus in keeping the hihat stand stable and yet close to the snare and left bass drum pedal, you will need this, otherwise you will be forced to rely on the unfolded legs of the hihat stand for stand stability which actually prevents the hihat stand from being next to the left bass drum pedal due to the limited space between the hihat stand, the 2nd bass drum and left bass drum pedal. in other words, tatama yung hihat stand legs sa left bass drum at left bass drum pedal pag unfolded yung legs.
but if you're comfortable or fine with having the hihat stand a bit away from the 2nd bass drum pedal and snare, then you don't need this. :P
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aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhh! this thing is expensive here in ripoff britain! average price for this is 37-40£ (4k pesos)! how i wish i was in the states instead where it only sets you back by $36!
£30 is the cheapest i could find and thats from an online store in Germany pa! although the store offers cheap dhl 4 to 7-day shipping to uk for only 700pesos altogether including 4 optimounts that i would be getting from em. wish me luck!
:)
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That price is really high! Mabuti na lang I didn't include the price for it, I was before but decided to edit. You will really hate the price there. Good Luck!
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i'm making a study on this and hope you guys can help me out with this survey...
are you guys willing to invest on a double bass drumkit or a single bass drumset with double pedal is enough already? let me know your anwser guys...cheers
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i sense an export joey jordison kit looming around . . . i hope it'll find its way to your showroom JP!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/oramismo/439326.jpg)
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hahaha..ang galing pareng jun ha..hehe...well eto pare pinapag aralan pa namin hehe, thanks bro...
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nice!
dual purpose sya for your company...its a nice display item rin! or if you wana sponsor a gig/drum eb/clinic, display mo lang to attract the young guns! it has more market recognition compared to other signature kits kasi more affordable sya, realistically priced, and the endorser is young and popular din...specially if your market is comprised of young fellas, i believe this will reinforce the pearl brand to those rockin out or even to those startin out. lalo na pag makita yan ng isang rich spoiled brat, yari si daddy for christmas! basta make sure you get the joey jordison figure stand din!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
add: if you have the kit na, display mo sa mga lobby ng big malls like megamall, mall of asia etc to point the direction to perfect pitch or yupangco showroom . . . ok sya talaga for promotional purposes din!
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sir jp!!! nyc one!!! pero dpat pati bass drum heads may nine point star din!!! para talagang pancnin? db?
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Hey JP! There's this old thread, and I think some of the thoughts posted there could help...
Double Bass vs. Double Pedal
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,20868.0.html
Yung reply ko sa thread na yan, yun na rin ang opinion ko regarding this.
8-)
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I prefer double pedals... I like my pedals very close to each other... which is not possible with the double bass....
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in reality..... here in our country. double bass?? hindi praktikal. karamihan satin mas pipiliin talaga ang single bass w/ double pedal..
pero para sakin mas gugustuhin ko pa din ang double bass.. iba kasi ang feel at iba ang tunog kesa sa single bass na dobol peds. pero yun ay kung may pera akong malaki... mejo may kamahalan kasi mag set ng double bass eh
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in reality..... here in our country. double bass?? hindi praktikal. karamihan satin mas pipiliin talaga ang single bass w/ double pedal..
pero para sakin mas gugustuhin ko pa din ang double bass.. iba kasi ang feel at iba ang tunog kesa sa single bass na dobol peds. pero yun ay kung may pera akong malaki... mejo may kamahalan kasi mag set ng double bass eh
i agree... lalo na sa mga gigging peeps dyan..hassle dala ka pa isang bass.. double peds nga nahihirapan na kong mag setup (for me)
kung kukuha sila ng double bass sets... ibabahay lng nila.
sayang naman.
pero astig tlga feel ng double bass, ibang iba sa single...pero gusto ko din makakita nun dito sa pinas.. hehehe..
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hi bam and jun balaraw, yes thats one aspect we are considering then pare..kaya medyo hesitant din ako magpasok ng double bass, yes its ture double pedals not only save us space but also on money..hmmm...any more points out there?... :mrgreen:
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Hey JP! There's this old thread, and I think some of the thoughts posted there could help...
Double Bass vs. Double Pedal
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,20868.0.html
Yung reply ko sa thread na yan, yun na rin ang opinion ko regarding this.
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thnaks dio..you're the man..hehehe..visit ka dito :mrgreen:
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hmmm..looks like the study shows that the its not really practical to bring in those double bass kits..even me is satisfied already with double pedal and since i dont have the luxury of having a big space for my drum room..
let me know if you guys have other opinions regarding this matter..cheers :mrgreen:
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Ok naman ang Double bass but mas practical talaga ang double peds na lang, pagdadala ang main problem dyan hehehe. Siguro yung mga gagawa lang talaga ng double, special order na lang sa Yupangco hehehe...
JP visit ako dyan sa Yupangco next week hehehe, alam mo na...
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Ok naman ang Double bass but mas practical talaga ang double peds na lang, pagdadala ang main problem dyan hehehe. Siguro yung mga gagawa lang talaga ng double, special order na lang sa Yupangco hehehe...
JP visit ako dyan sa Yupangco next week hehehe, alam mo na...
hi dennis, yup bro mukhang mas magandang chocie nga yun, i-pa special order na lang..cge pare feel free to visit anytime..thanks
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Kung manalo ako sa lotto, unang bibilhin ko yung kit na nasa taas hehehe tapos Sabian cymbals.... Tapos Vinnie Paul at Joey Jordison snare... Libre lang mangarap, kaya kahit ano pwede hehehe...
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ung drummer ng urbandub naka double bass na!!! kaso d ko pa narinig eh??? sbi lang skin... hehe :-D
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Obviously in our country, halos mababalewala ung dobol bass d2. Bihira lang kasi nagdadala ng kanya-kanyang drumset d2 eh! Kaya peds nalang. pero if i were 2 choose personally, Double bass na!!! Dami pang toms pede ilagay
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Obviously in our country, halos mababalewala ung dobol bass d2. Bihira lang kasi nagdadala ng kanya-kanyang drumset d2 eh! Kaya peds nalang. pero if i were 2 choose personally, Double bass na!!! Dami pang toms pede ilagay
o nga dami pang toms pwd ilagay! :lol:
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But we can still put multiple toms on a single bass drumkit (ex. - Carter Beauford, Tim Alexander), and/or a few toms on a double bass drumkit (ex. - Vinnie Paul, Ed Shaughnessy).
Just a thought. :wink:
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yep! you're right master. just saw a while ago on dave matthew's band perform on mtv. saw mr. carter beauford's kit. fantastic! :lol:
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Practically, I'd still prefer single bass with double pedals on it.
For sure madami din interested sa double bass kit.
Many drummers are fond of expanding and upgrading their kits no matter what the price.
Just like car enthusiasts who'd invest huge amount to modify their cars.
Kaya sure hit pa din yan sirJP. :-D
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pero pangarap ko din talaga magkaroon ng double bass kit.. kahit pang praktis lang sa bahay
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Parang mas gusto ko double pedal na lang, para may space pa para paglagyan ng pedals ng remote hats at foot-operated snare drums/percussion instruments a la Benny Greb.
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Pag ba nakaDoublebass drums ka dapat ba pareho ung size nila? or ok lang ba king ung isa 22" tapos ung isa 24" tanong lang po... di ko kasi alam kung pangit ba tunog or maganda eh...
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Pag ba nakaDoublebass drums ka dapat ba pareho ung size nila? or ok lang ba king ung isa 22" tapos ung isa 24" tanong lang po... di ko kasi alam kung pangit ba tunog or maganda eh...
well having the same size is much advisable..well it depends din on what sound you want to achieve, cheers
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depende kc. kung gusto mo n mas malakas ang porma, doble bass. pag practical double peds.
Pero ako, double bass. Same size ung bass, pero ung toms, isang standard size at isang fusion size.
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Para masastig e triple bass nalang HAHAHA! portnoy time
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may ibang drummer na naka double bass pero ibang size yung 2nd bass drum
tulad ni dave weckl.. naka double pedal siya sa main bass drum pero
may remote bass drum pa siya :-)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/intakenos/Dave-Weckl.jpg)
pano niya kaya ginagamit yun... :?
may isa pa pala! si Stanton moore!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/intakenos/stantonmooredunnett.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/intakenos/stantonmooremaster.jpg)
may vid din siya sa youtube...search niyo na lang..sorry tamad ako :lol:
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nasubukan kong magdouble bass dati... meron kc akong isang bass drum samin kaso ndi ko na nagagamit. kc ung kit primary bass drum ko 24" tapos un 22 lang. pero ang sarap nung feel!!! mas masikip nga lang para priv8 studio. pero opag nagkapera, aausin ko ung bass drum para masaya!
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sarap mag experiment no? :lol:
kung nagsusuka lang talaga tayo ng pera...hayyy
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Pede kaya six bass drums. Kaso kailangan ng rotating stool
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ako mahirap mag double bass kci kulang sa space.. mas komportable nako sa double pedal.. mahirap mg double bass kci dapt parehas tunog..
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Pede kaya six bass drums. Kaso kailangan ng rotating stool
Alex Van Halen did that. He made this "3 drumkits in 1" monster drumkit, which had 6 kick drums. There's a pic in his drummerworld.com page --- http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Alex_Van_Halen.html .
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walang impossible...imagination lang ang kailangan ika nga :-)
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depende kc. kung gusto mo n mas malakas ang porma, doble bass. pag practical double peds.
Pero ako, double bass. Same size ung bass, pero ung toms, isang standard size at isang fusion size.
Ano ung fusion size toms?
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how about Grant Collins :-)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/gala09/idol.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/gala09/idol2.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/gala09/grantcollins3.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/gala09/grantcollinshardwork.jpg)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/gala09/newsetup.jpg)
:evil: :evil: :evil:
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grabe din yang kit ni grant collins.. grabe!!!! nakakahilo!!!! hehehe
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im still making a study on this, let me know guys if you have more suggestions..ciao :mrgreen:
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double bass ako. mahal nga lang at mahirap dalhin. ewan ko kung naka double bass or bouble pedal ang sa urbandub. eto o double bass joey jordison kit sa sig ko. hehe.
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Ano ung fusion size toms?
As far as I know, ang Fusion size tom is a combination of standard jazz and rock tom configurations.
The basic rock tom configurations are 12" 13" AND 16". Jazz naman, 10" 12" and 14"
Check out Steve Smith and Dave Weckl's drumkit sa website ng Zildjian at Sabian.
goodluck! :-)
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check niyo terrybozzio.com... check out his superset.. terrybozzio ss........ sorry ndi ako marunong mag lagay pics... cant help it sobrang idol ko talga ito.... wild nag co-concert mag isa, parang orchestra...
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check niyo terrybozzio.com... check out his superset.. terrybozzio ss........ sorry ndi ako marunong mag lagay pics... cant help it sobrang idol ko talga ito.... wild nag co-concert mag isa, parang orchestra...
grabe ang set ni boozio. sobrang weird eh... ang daming toms. kada toms ata may corresponding notes eh.. grabe!
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double bass ako. mahal nga lang at mahirap dalhin. ewan ko kung naka double bass or bouble pedal ang sa urbandub. eto o double bass joey jordison kit sa sig ko. hehe.
janjan of urbandub uses doule pedals on his kit, he has an eliminator peds he bought from me during my perfect pitch days
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To appreciate Terry Bozzio's drumkit is to watch and hear him perform on it. Grabe talaga ang ostinato and melodic drumming explorations niya. Tama lang na ganon ang drumkit niya, because he can pull it off and he's able to use every instrument in his monster kit in a creative and musical context. Genius.
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oo nga ung video nya na melodic drumming and the ostinato... 3part video... nung first time ko napanood sobrang nabaliw ako.... hehehe sobrang lupit hanggang ngyn natago ko pa rin ung mga vids na un kaso vhs... kasama ung mga tabs nya.... any1 know where to have it transferred in dvd? tnx.. syang ung copy sana madami rin makapanood nun
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Here are videos of Terry Bozzio doing what he does best. From the Vic Firth website...
http://www.vicfirth.com/artists/bozzio/mediaframe.html
Terry Bozzio's Official Website --- http://www.terrybozzio.com/
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Here are videos of Terry Bozzio doing what he does best. From the Vic Firth website...
http://www.vicfirth.com/artists/bozzio/mediaframe.html
Terry Bozzio's Official Website --- http://www.terrybozzio.com/
ask ko lang.. patay na ba si bozzio?
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buhay pa pre :-D
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buhay pa pre :-D
hahaha akala ko yumao na hehehe
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does anyone rent out a double bass drumkit?
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bea and i can sense now the joey jordison double bass signature export kit looming around next year..........hehehe....maybe it would be better if we excite ourselves for this one... :mrgreen:
the domination starts now... :evil:
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whoaw!!!!
that'd be awesome bro JP!
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bilis ipasok nyo na. gs2 ko magpa picture sa drum set na yan! hahahaha! sana makita ng mga nagbebenta ng DW to. magpasok kayo ng terry bozzio kit!! may bibili kaya nun? magkano kaya yun? hahahahaha :-D pero seriously JP astig tong idea na to :-) di kc masyadong mahal yung jordison kit :-)
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bea and i can sense now the joey jordison double bass signature export kit looming around next year..........hehehe....maybe it would be better if we excite ourselves for this one... :mrgreen:
the domination starts now... :evil:
wow astig yan! jordisono na jordison ba? pati mga cymbals? hehehhe.
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bea and i can sense now the joey jordison double bass signature export kit looming around next year..........hehehe....maybe it would be better if we excite ourselves for this one... :mrgreen:
the domination starts now... :evil:
ayos!! kaso ma bibili kaya nun?
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aah.... uhm.... does it come with the white paistes?! heeheeheehee... :-D<===PAISTE ADDICT
MARU
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Guyzzz...!! sa tingin nyo posible ba na mag clinic dito sa pinas si grant collins? as a zildjian endorser? ano sa tingin nyo?... :-D
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aah.... uhm.... does it come with the white paistes?! heeheeheehee... :-D<===PAISTE ADDICT
MARU
ako din paiste adik wahaha! astig ung white cymbals
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bea and i can sense now the joey jordison double bass signature export kit looming around next year..........hehehe....maybe it would be better if we excite ourselves for this one... :mrgreen:
the domination starts now... :evil:
ayos!! kaso ma bibili kaya nun?
well we we here at he pearl drums marketing team believe on it...and most of all proud of it..and we know joey jordison has a big market here in our country..and 2007 is a new year so we must come up with something different and better than what we did this year...thats the keypoint brother... :wink:
let the domination start now :evil:
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Sana may masingit na Tico Torres Sig Snare sa loob ng bass drum... hehehe
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ano kaya tunog nun? hehe. :-D
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aus na aus toh!!! unahan na tau dian ha!!! (parang me pera eh noh) makita ko lang yan! solve na ko the whole year!!!
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Hey Bro just to talk about which will be better for you a "double bass" set up for a drum set or would you prefer a "double pedal" only??
I think Double Bass will be better. The disadvantage is only pag may mga gigs outdoor medyo matagal set up and bulky pag travel!! And pwede din natin itono ng magkaiba ang mga Bass...
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double pedal bro... un pa nga lang mabigat na bitbitin eh.. ung extra bass drum pa kaya? haha :evil:
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consistency of sound.. double bass.. mahirap nga lang magpareho ng tono ung dalawang bass... kaso nga lang hassle space... double pedal.. hindi talaga mapapantay ang tunog ng bass pero saves space... :-D
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Well pag space pag-uusapan medyo bagsak nga sya diba pero bakit kaya ung mga sikat na drummer ay mas gusto nila ung double bass diba kagaya ni Mike Portnoy nalang... Di ba nagkakaproblema ang mga double peds lang?
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:roll: :roll: I agree bro medyo gusto ko lang malaman mga bro dun sa mga may set up na double bass, Ano ung Advantage of using this double bass set ups? :? :?
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double peds din ako. mas convenient at mas mobile.
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hmM. doble peds. no questions asked. kung para sa araw arw na panganga-ilangan. hehe. pero kung may magiisponsor na company para sa drums natin diba? double bass na! kahit triple pa!
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tamad ako magset up eh double pedal talaga ehehehehe
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kasi sa double bass.. same spot yung hit ng beater sa left at right mong
bass drum.. sa double pedal.. yung remote pedal mo e nasa left side na so
iba na yung sound na magagawa niya... slight pero syempre gusto ko consistent yung sound...
sa taiwan trip ko,yung friend kong drummer dun.. pinagamit niya yung big kit niya..
double bass yun.. ang saya.. iba yung feel niya at sound wise.. pareho yung tunog ng bass sa left at right.. pero what can i do? i can afford only double pedal.. sad... kung magssponsoran ako ng drum company(asa pako) e di ok! hehe..
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di ko naman kailangan ng double bass kit eh...ang hirap pa tonohin :|
kung double bass siguro...auxilary bass drum ang ilalagay ko (grabe mahal nun! bibili pako ng isa pang double pedal :lol: )
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masaya kaya magtono... fulfilling... it's one thing that all drummers must have..
to be conscious sa drum sounds nila... parang alam mong si colaiuta dahil sa snare at tom sounds niya,o kaya kay weckl...
gusto ko ung kit ni grant collins.. apat na bass ata un.. at naulan ng eliminator
na pedals.. hehe...
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masaya nga...ayoko lang ng madaming totonohin :lol:
malalaman mo sa ako nagtono ng tom na yun kapag tunog lata :mrgreen:
onga pala no...pano niya kaya natutugtog yun??
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Disadvantage of double pedals:
"when you hit the bass drum the head is still resonating. When you hit it in the same place right after that you kinda get a "slapback" from the bass drum head hitting the other pedal. You're not letting them breathe."
-Dave Lombardo (Slayer)-
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OT question: meron ba kayong kilala na naka double bass? i have yet to see somebody locally with 2 bass drums
andy hurley of fall out boy
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Disadvantage of double pedals:
"when you hit the bass drum the head is still resonating. When you hit it in the same place right after that you kinda get a "slapback" from the bass drum head hitting the other pedal. You're not letting them breathe."
-Dave Lombardo (Slayer)-
But logically, this is also the equivalent of playing single strokes on our snare drums and toms. And for me, I think the difference in its slapbacks and breathing is just slight, meaning I don't think it's such a major dilemma.
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Good point, Sir. Very minimal indeed. Double pedals get the job done no matter what. :-)
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masaya ako with my Mapex Birch M 6-pc. I love the hardware too. I just thought that expanding my kit would be a good idea. Now, I think getting an extra kick and pedal would cost me just as much as a double pedal, and it would be much cheaper pa than getting a DW double or darn Axis.
I am not a serious drummer but I do a lot of studio work. What would be a better choice?
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Siguro sir, if you're a gigging drummer, I'd recommend double peds. :-)
If not, a double bass drum setup is said to feel more natural, and it offers higher customizability with regards to sound and pedal feel.
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I've also read that if you are using triggers on your kick, it would be better to do 2 separate bass drums than going the double pedal route...
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hmm skunk san mo ilalagay yung 2nd kick?
parang di na ata kasya sa lugar mo yung drums, sa bahay namin kasya yung drums. ok lang ba? :-D
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i will go for the double pedal i think.. :wink:..but if you're mostly at home naman i suggest go for the double bass thing hehehe :wink:
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hmm skunk san mo ilalagay yung 2nd kick?
parang di na ata kasya sa lugar mo yung drums, sa bahay namin kasya yung drums. ok lang ba? :-D
Kasya man. Medyo kailangan lang irearrange ang studio. Actually sinukat ko, puwede lagyan ng double kick kasi idle space yung gilid ng amps. Yun nga lang mukha nang lata ng sardinas yung tracking room ko pag ganun... :-D
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doubLe bass :-(
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Mas madali gumamit ng double bass, yun nga lang bihira lang lang gumagamit nun dito sa pilipinas.. kung marami lang akong pera sa Double Bass na ko..
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DOuble pedals na...hehehe... :mrgreen: :evil:
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mas madali nga po ang double pedals...pero mukhang astig pag naka dobol bass :-D
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Mas Madali mag dobol bass. kasi sa dobol bass, direct ung force galing sa paa
unlike sa dobol peds, dadaan muna ung lakas sa "rod" or propeller. kaya mjo mawawalan ng lakas.
ayun. . .
hehe
@ cymor
ui, xa na drummer ng sticker happwet. haha
musta ang tutugan? :)
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maganda sana double bass kasi mas solid ung attack...sabi nga ni george kollias ata un ung drummer ng nile sa interview...problem lang with double pedals eh ung kapag sa pagattack ng isang beater dun sa drumhead, di pa nakakapagbounce back ung drumhead pabalik, biglang aattack ung isang beater...so mejo nakakalessen daw ata yun ng "ooomph" ng bass hehe.. :-D
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pambahay - double bass
gig din minsan/palagi - doupeds
onga pala...yung isa bass ba ibang size? pang aux. bass or double bass talaga?
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syempre double bass... mas astig kasi eh... d lang siguro comportable dahil pag lilipat kana sa hi-hat medyo may distansya... hndi ko palang na try yung double bass eh...
ung double bass ni portnoy hindi naman magka tono ah...
nasanay na ako sa text messaging kaya minsan napapa text yung message ko...
sorry sa mga moderator...
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Mas Madali mag dobol bass. kasi sa dobol bass, direct ung force galing sa paa
unlike sa dobol peds, dadaan muna ung lakas sa "rod" or propeller. kaya mjo mawawalan ng lakas.
ayun. . .
hehe
@ cymor
ui, xa na drummer ng sticker happwet. haha
musta ang tutugan? :)
super late na reply...pero...bro ralph!...pede ka na maging drum technician! haha! andami mo alam...talagang pati drum parts alam mo...paturo sa next jam sa bahay ko...thanks dude!..dami ko lagi natututunan sa mga na-share mo sakin :-D
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nakatry na ako ng double bass.. mas ok talaga xa pag dating sa tugtugan... pero since sa mga gigs eh palipat lipat ng bar.. id settle for d-peds paren..
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inexplain ni simon phillips dati yung diff ng double peds sa double bass nung nagclinic sya d2 sa hk. ang explanation nya eh kung tumutugtug ka ng 16th note mas free ang resonance ng bass heads pag double bass compare sa double pedal kasi your actually playing 8th notes on each drum heads. ang concept kasi ng heads eh parang tubig sa timba. pag isang timba lang parang masyado "naoovercrowded" yung ripple kompara sa 2. same din sa bass heads yun. mas nakaktravel ng maluwag yung vibration nung heads ng double bass. pero depende rin sa tugtugan and user preference.
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inexplain ni simon phillips dati yung diff ng double peds sa double bass nung nagclinic sya d2 sa hk. ang explanation nya eh kung tumutugtug ka ng 16th note mas free ang resonance ng bass heads pag double bass compare sa double pedal kasi your actually playing 8th notes on each drum heads. ang concept kasi ng heads eh parang tubig sa timba. pag isang timba lang parang masyado "naoovercrowded" yung ripple kompara sa 2. same din sa bass heads yun. mas nakaktravel ng maluwag yung vibration nung heads ng double bass. pero depende rin sa tugtugan and user preference.
nararamdaman ko to pag nag-flaflam sa double peds, aside sa usual fast double bass patterns. mas masarap siguro kung naka double bass, kaso sayang lang at hindi practical mag double bass sa pilipinas...
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double pedal parin mas madali at mas simple... pag sikat na sikat siguro at madaming pera double bass. hehehe :lol:
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May i ask some question? what is the purpose of this poll? is it for GAS related or tone... if tone pipiliin ko yung double bass dahil mas solid yung attack, tone and punch.. concentrated yung each pedal sa isang bass drumheads. hindi nya pinapatay kagad yung resonation ng bass drum. kaya sa states mas panalo sa kanila ang double bass.. But it depends on the music that you play... pero kung sa pagtitipid naman ang pipiliin ko syempre double peds nalang ako. dahil mas handy sya... saka practical.... i vote for double bass dahil sa tone ako naka base. but i dont have double bass eh... magastos... hehehehe
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+1!
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For me, here are the advantages of a double bass setup:
1. If you like blasting, double bass has a better feel because you are dealing with 2 different skins for each beater. Hence, the response is more felt with that setup.
2. Triggers would love a double-bass setup than that of a double pedal setup.
3. Resonance! The room all of a sudden has richer overtones, because you hear 2 bass drums resonating instead of just one.
4. Looks. (Relative though.) I guess Tommy Lee has the best 32" and 40" kicks available in double bass.
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dobol beys ako mga tol. true mahirap iset up, mahirap itono at masakit sa singit kasi nakabukaka kang talaga. pero rakistang rakista sa entablado. pis mga bro. :-D
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depende siguro.
para sa mga ma-recording (and may home recording studio) mas okay double bass.
pero sa mga ma-gig, double peds.
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Kung para sa bahay lang double bass..
mas prefer ko ang doube bass setup kasi hindi mo talaga mapapantay ang tunog ng isang kick drum kung double pedal gamit mo, siyempre iba parin feel ng double bass setup
tapos nung nag switch ako sa double bass mas okay talga feel, may limitation kasi ang distance ng double pedal dahil sa extension rod niya :mrgreen:
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recently I've just acquired another 18x22 bass drum... setting up took a lot of energy... one thing I immediately realized is that in a double bass kit the hihat pedal is located closer to the throne, so it's impossible that the hihat pedal and the bass pedal are exactly adjacent to each other. Double Bass kit is very expensive! After buying the bass drum, I had to buy new bass drumheads... in this case I bought two Remo Encore PS heads :lol: (un lang afford!), plus! Reso heads should also be the same... Tuning is a pain the ass... Up until now I spend time tuning both drums coz I just can't seem to get them exactly identical in tune (probably because they're different in shell material and brand, my bass drum is a Yamaha and the other one is a Gretsch). In terms of floorspace... It took up almost 5 square meters with only one floor tom. But after all that it was all cake! Felt like I had a brand new drumkit! The feel is very different from that of a double pedal.. and it's much more louder since no second beater stops the resonance of the drum. The major difference in feel is the vibration on the left foot. You won't feel that on a slave pedal. In terms of looks, :-o wow, Everytime I look at it there's a smile on my face! :-D, guests at my house are like "wow.." all in all having a double bass kit is really great but the cost is too high, and it takes a lot of time and energy to set up. So if I have to vote between double pedal and Double bass? I go for the double pedal. That double bass kit will just be for home use! ahahaha!
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double bass...
mas masarap sa pakiramdam pag nka doudle bass ka.
fullfillments sa sarili yun.. lalo na pag na itono mo ng ma aus ang 2 bass..
at mararamdaman mo talaga ang individual use ng 2 paa mo... sa pag gamit ng double bass.. hindi basta na suporta lang ang isang paa mo! mararamdaman mo mag ka iba sila ng pag apply sa bawat bass...
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recently I've just acquired another 18x22 bass drum... setting up took a lot of energy... one thing I immediately realized is that in a double bass kit the hihat pedal is located closer to the throne, so it's impossible that the hihat pedal and the bass pedal are exactly adjacent to each other. Double Bass kit is very expensive! After buying the bass drum, I had to buy new bass drumheads... in this case I bought two Remo Encore PS heads :lol: (un lang afford!), plus! Reso heads should also be the same... Tuning is a pain the ass... Up until now I spend time tuning both drums coz I just can't seem to get them exactly identical in tune (probably because they're different in shell material and brand, my bass drum is a Yamaha and the other one is a Gretsch). In terms of floorspace... It took up almost 5 square meters with only one floor tom. But after all that it was all cake! Felt like I had a brand new drumkit! The feel is very different from that of a double pedal.. and it's much more louder since no second beater stops the resonance of the drum. The major difference in feel is the vibration on the left foot. You won't feel that on a slave pedal. In terms of looks, :-o wow, Everytime I look at it there's a smile on my face! :-D, guests at my house are like "wow.." all in all having a double bass kit is really great but the cost is too high, and it takes a lot of time and energy to set up. So if I have to vote between double pedal and Double bass? I go for the double pedal. That double bass kit will just be for home use! ahahaha!
mga bros, diba may hi-hat stand na hindi na tripod. 2 nalang yung paa plus yung pedal. Isa pa, naiikot yung pedal si pwedeng itabi mismo sa bass pedal. look into nalang. years na since nung last time kong nakita yun. Tama yata.
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mga bros, diba may hi-hat stand na hindi na tripod. 2 nalang yung paa plus yung pedal. Isa pa, naiikot yung pedal si pwedeng itabi mismo sa bass pedal. look into nalang. years na since nung last time kong nakita yun. Tama yata.
my pedals are still side by side.. hindi lang pantay... malabo talaga magpantay ung dalawa eh... I think you're talking about the Tama Iron Cobra Hihat Stand, anyways... Hihat to bass drum attachments are pretty expensive. I think the Mapex one costs P2500... so I've improvised my own using Lazer Hardware, share ko na lang po para kayo din makatipid ehehe... using a clamp and a cowbell mount... it all costs P750!!! :-D eto po...
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paano mo bubuhatin ang 2nd bass drum mo sa gig?
2 peds ako!
plus may mga rythms na hindi makukuha sa 2 bass, kapag sobrang bilis ka na dun ka nalang magdouble bass
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Ako Double bass... gamit ko.... isang Geneseries at yamaha dp series....
Hirap kasi mag kaiba pedal at di pa control yung left foot ko.....
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Prefer ko para sakin double pedal, peru kung porma pag uusapan, dual bass drum hehe, problema mo lang talaga yung pag dadala :-D
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ano pinagkaiba ng double pedal (single bass drum) at double bass kung parehas naman naka trigger? :?
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kung naka axis e-kit triggers ka no problem.
kaso pag naka acoustic trigger ka sa single bass, pag ndi siya muffled ng todo
magbibigay ng false signals sa trigger or may delay minsan
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mas handy, portable and practical ang double pedal.. mas maangas ang double bass..