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The Musician Forums => Guitar Central => Topic started by: nineworkz on April 12, 2011, 02:33:56 AM
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We can't be much prouder of these guys!
Neil, Lipton and Jmorerro keep the custom fx fire burning!
CHEERS! =)
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Part 2:
http://www.pulse.ph/posts/stompography-part-2-of-2-sub-zero-guitar-fx-jmorrero-custom-pedals/
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Part 1:
http://www.pulse.ph/posts/stompography-part-1-of-2-intro-liptone-pedals/
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excerpt from the intro:
"Make a cursory search on Google or log on to the popular forum PhilMusic.com and you’ll find dozens offering just such assistance. For the budget guitarist, DIY is surely the way to go. And for the even more price-conscious, many offer customization services to existing pedals by big manufacturers. These tinkering jobs let a guitar player choose a more genre-specific tone with, say, an off-the-shelf BOSS DS-1 distortion pedal with a few snips and a kzzzt. Then, voila! A British-type gain is achieved.
From the lot of modelers, customizers, and DIY-ers, we chose our three subjects as much for their originality and inventiveness as for their willingness to talk and confess to the mania of making stompboxes.
One thing’s for sure, the quest for tone to these guys is all too real. In all instances it’s led them far beyond making clones for existing pedals, to producing their original units forged in dreams of solder and wiring.
Here are three stories of obsession and lust that’s cost our subjects time, money and, in some cases, the decay of personal relationships. All in furtherance of mastering the unique blend of engineering, music, and art that is creating a guitar pedal.
What does it take to make an original stomp unit? Let’s find out. Turn the knob and enjoy."
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read more at the links above! =)
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great share. thanks man. :-D
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nicey..tnx jam
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*claps :-D
astig haha pero namiss ko tuloy yung leviathan pedal ko :cry: :roll: :wink:
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We can't be much prouder of these guys!
Neil, Lipton and Jmorerro keep the custom fx fire burning!
CHEERS! =)
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Part 2:
http://www.pulse.ph/posts/stompography-part-2-of-2-sub-zero-guitar-fx-jmorrero-custom-pedals/
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Part 1:
http://www.pulse.ph/posts/stompography-part-1-of-2-intro-liptone-pedals/
kayo ba sir guitarist ng EVEN? if so hands down galing niyo sir :-D
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I do NOT agree with a lot of points in the article. The only point I agree on in the article is that you need a guitar and amp for you to plug the stompbox in between. Surprisingly, the article forgets to mention that as it proceeds in the narrative. However, I think for what they are doing and their pricing, they BRING IT.
But to me, they are NOT yet world class because of the following reasons:
1) Musical Exposure -- they don't design or make pedals for the top artists in the world. Unfortunately, its a realization of the Philippine Condition. I recently bought a Cornell First Fuzz. By the way, I hate fuzzes. So does my luthier friend. But I told my luthier, you have not heard a Fuzz that sounds this good. True enough he is now a convert -- turning his tiny trebly strat into something as thick as a les paul. We were both floored but we both realized that we were never exposed to the good sounding fuzzes thru our combined years and it takes a reproduction by Mr. Cornell to show us/let us hear the beauty of the early fuzzes. By the way, it doesn't sound as fizzy as you think. In fact, if anything it makes the sound thicker and more dynamic -- yup that doesn't sound like your typical fuzz. And yet my reason for keeping it is because, it does the thick sound and dynamic in a way that no other fuzz or overdrive or distortion can.
2) Money in the Bank -- they don't own a lot of the good sounding amps and good sounding guitars that should be tested with pedals. This is the biggest minus. How sure are you that the boss they are modifying to make sound good on the behringer will NOT actually ruin your sound going thru a Fender amp? You are not. Wala kasi silang mga amp na iyon. Tingnan niyo ang mga local made pedals ay mas maraming version kaysa american and european counterparts? Natatawa lang ako.
The problem with the article is that is glorifies pedals too much and removes it SO much from the context of the guitar and amp.
I can say that I own more pedals than these three guys combined and all these pedals are 90% boutique and scattered around the house. If there should be someone designing pedals, it should be me but... I want to emphasize that the guitar with character and good sounding tube amp is worth much more than a pedal -- but more expensive too. A lot of the local designers have tube screamer clones. I have a TS9 (first re-issue MIJ) modded with riken ohms and a specially selected Texas Instrument Made in Malaysia chip that Mr. Lito Bote helped me pick out. And I am willing to bet that none of the local TS clones can beat it in terms of sound. In fact, it beat a real old vintage TS808 in terms of sound. But you know what, where that pedal really shines in is when its set as a boost in front of my 1972 Marshall Super Lead Head. Talk about people criticizing the Tube screamer mid hump, it just seems to be friendly with the amp.
Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
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I do NOT agree with a lot of points in the article. The only point I agree on in the article is that you need a guitar and amp for you to plug the stompbox in between. Surprisingly, the article forgets to mention that as it proceeds in the narrative. However, I think for what they are doing and their pricing, they BRING IT.
But to me, they are NOT yet world class because of the following reasons:
1) Musical Exposure -- they don't design or make pedals for the top artists in the world. Unfortunately, its a realization of the Philippine Condition. I recently bought a Cornell First Fuzz. By the way, I hate fuzzes. So does my luthier friend. But I told my luthier, you have not heard a Fuzz that sounds this good. True enough he is now a convert -- turning his tiny trebly strat into something as thick as a les paul. We were both floored but we both realized that we were never exposed to the good sounding fuzzes thru our combined years and it takes a reproduction by Mr. Cornell to show us/let us hear the beauty of the early fuzzes. By the way, it doesn't sound as fizzy as you think. In fact, if anything it makes the sound thicker and more dynamic -- yup that doesn't sound like your typical fuzz. And yet my reason for keeping it is because, it does the thick sound and dynamic in a way that no other fuzz or overdrive or distortion can.
2) Money in the Bank -- they don't own a lot of the good sounding amps and good sounding guitars that should be tested with pedals. This is the biggest minus. How sure are you that the boss they are modifying to make sound good on the behringer will NOT actually ruin your sound going thru a Fender amp? You are not. Wala kasi silang mga amp na iyon. Tingnan niyo ang mga local made pedals ay mas maraming version kaysa american and european counterparts? Natatawa lang ako.
The problem with the article is that is glorifies pedals too much and removes it SO much from the context of the guitar and amp.
I can say that I own more pedals than these three guys combined and all these pedals are 90% boutique and scattered around the house. If there should be someone designing pedals, it should be me but... I want to emphasize that the guitar with character and good sounding tube amp is worth much more than a pedal -- but more expensive too. A lot of the local designers have tube screamer clones. I have a TS9 (first re-issue MIJ) modded with riken ohms and a specially selected Texas Instrument Made in Malaysia chip that Mr. Lito Bote helped me pick out. And I am willing to bet that none of the local TS clones can beat it in terms of sound. In fact, it beat a real old vintage TS808 in terms of sound. But you know what, where that pedal really shines in is when its set as a boost in front of my 1972 Marshall Super Lead Head. Talk about people criticizing the Tube screamer mid hump, it just seems to be friendly with the amp.
Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
i smell shootout!
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i smell shootout!
Naku... No shoootouttts. Mali ang process eh... Dapat your own individual setup. Kundi lalabas lang mga voyeur ang nakikinig
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:-D :-D :-D
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Hays...
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Naku... No shoootouttts. Mali ang process eh... Dapat your own individual setup. Kundi lalabas lang mga voyeur ang nakikinig
wait. correct me if im wrong but, if you have your individual set up then it will be "my set up vs your set up" na?
because all other variables should be constant except the tube screamers if you wanna prove that your tube screamer is better than the clones..
anyway nothings prolly gonna be worng since you are comparing Tube screamers most prolly they have the same circuits..
it should be "your tube screamer vs tube screamer clones"?
ppwede ba kung:
yung individual set up mo + your tube screamer, then yung tube screamer clones will your use your set up too? para constant ang other variables..
paki correct nalang kung mali analogy ko..
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Naku... No shoootouttts. Mali ang process eh... Dapat your own individual setup. Kundi lalabas lang mga voyeur ang nakikinig
bakit kanya kanyang setup dapat same setup ang shootout same guitar same amp....kung kanya kanyang setup alam naming magaganda gamit mo diba tsaka kung malaki tiwala mo sa pedals mo bat natatakot ka sa shootout????...
pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
pero dito i agree
the thing is di lahat ng tao mayaman katulad mo na can afford to buy highend stuff pero kung umpisa ka plang at wala kang budget i guess ok lang bumili ng pedals muna na masaya ka sa tunog na ma proproduce using a crappy amp... as you go along the way naman things improve... sample ako before when i was starting amp ko rage amps it sounds crap pero what can i do wala akong pera pero now Vox AC30 na
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I do NOT agree with a lot of points in the article. The only point I agree on in the article is that you need a guitar and amp for you to plug the stompbox in between. Surprisingly, the article forgets to mention that as it proceeds in the narrative. However, I think for what they are doing and their pricing, they BRING IT.
Well, part2 touched on it briefly, look for jmorerro's quote towards the end about the bigger importance of guitar and amp. Even if it the article did not focus on that, ok lang. It's all about the local DIY stomps, so they zero in on the topic.
But to me, they are NOT yet world class because of the following reasons:
1) Musical Exposure -- they don't design or make pedals for the top artists in the world. Unfortunately, its a realization of the Philippine Condition. I recently bought a Cornell First Fuzz. By the way, I hate fuzzes. So does my luthier friend. But I told my luthier, you have not heard a Fuzz that sounds this good. True enough he is now a convert -- turning his tiny trebly strat into something as thick as a les paul. We were both floored but we both realized that we were never exposed to the good sounding fuzzes thru our combined years and it takes a reproduction by Mr. Cornell to show us/let us hear the beauty of the early fuzzes. By the way, it doesn't sound as fizzy as you think. In fact, if anything it makes the sound thicker and more dynamic -- yup that doesn't sound like your typical fuzz. And yet my reason for keeping it is because, it does the thick sound and dynamic in a way that no other fuzz or overdrive or distortion can.
I think they would do well to stick to their niche. Not to say they shouldn't accept international orders, but to say they have to design and build for international artists implies that you should only please that market. They are first and foremost Filipinos, so naturally they cater to a lot to local orders. I say draw inspiration from the foreign builds, then use your ears and creativity to build something that first, sounds good to you, and second, works well in full band situation. All in local context. If others use their wallet to agree with what you have built, then all well and good, you build a following, you have a good product.
Nevermind the foreign acts or foreign artists, most of whom would buy local to them anyway and thumb their nose down on most Asian non-japanese builds. But it's a bonus if some would order from you.
2) Money in the Bank -- they don't own a lot of the good sounding amps and good sounding guitars that should be tested with pedals. This is the biggest minus. How sure are you that the boss they are modifying to make sound good on the behringer will NOT actually ruin your sound going thru a Fender amp? You are not. Wala kasi silang mga amp na iyon. Tingnan niyo ang mga local made pedals ay mas maraming version kaysa american and european counterparts? Natatawa lang ako.
Maybe it's funny to you, but you have just made a blanket statement that they don't have good amps. In fact, it's rudimentary that a good build must sound good in a number of amps, and a lot of them audition on amps a lot of people use. Not just one. Who would test on only a single behringer w/ an 8" speaker amp? You think he would be successful? (rhetorical)
Also, versions are only an indicator, that either the build is a work in progress (to get something right or try new parts/methods), or it is a true custom build that customers can ask for modifications they see fit for their needs. What's so funny about that? There is no standard for 'good sounding' (arguable for you, but don't take it there), and to truly move forward you gotta work in different platforms.
The problem with the article is that is glorifies pedals too much and removes it SO much from the context of the guitar and amp.
Eh. So maybe next time they could put out an article about the guitar and amp. I don't think it glorifies the pedals too much, just a good write-up on the chosen subject. Which happens to be local pedal builders.
I can say that I own more pedals than these three guys combined and all these pedals are 90% boutique and scattered around the house. If there should be someone designing pedals, it should be me but... I want to emphasize that the guitar with character and good sounding tube amp is worth much more than a pedal -- but more expensive too. A lot of the local designers have tube screamer clones. I have a TS9 (first re-issue MIJ) modded with riken ohms and a specially selected Texas Instrument Made in Malaysia chip that Mr. Lito Bote helped me pick out. And I am willing to bet that none of the local TS clones can beat it in terms of sound. In fact, it beat a real old vintage TS808 in terms of sound. But you know what, where that pedal really shines in is when its set as a boost in front of my 1972 Marshall Super Lead Head. Talk about people criticizing the Tube screamer mid hump, it just seems to be friendly with the amp.
Good for you. But I hate to break it to you, the whole "If you work at the parts the whole will be a success" does not necessarily apply. It only works, and there's only success if the results speak to you in a positive way. "Premium parts" are meant to attract buyers like you, who demand the best, also at a premium. Not to say that they don't build with premium parts to begin with, because some will... just to have that base covered right at the beginning. Fortunately, having local builders you can actually go to, speak with, and audition builds with, means that tolerances can be a little looser and tweakable. BTW, did you audition your tubescreamer dual opamp chip with other chips? It's socketed, isn't it?
Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
I agree here. But pedals are some of the cheapest fun you can get if you're bored with your gear.
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I have a TS9 (first re-issue MIJ) modded with riken ohms and a specially selected Texas Instrument Made in Malaysia chip that Mr. Lito Bote helped me pick out.
hindi ba "Busted" na itong usapin na 'to sa Visual sound's version of mythbusters?!
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una apoymodelo69 - pano mo nalaman na wala sila matino gitara? close kayo?
pangalawa apoymodelo69 - tama, kasama ang gitara, ampli, cable, pikup at kung ano ano pa sa pagbuo ng tunog, pero naisip mo na ba kung sino talaga nagpapatunog?
pangatlo apoymodelo69 - baket ba kylangan mo lagi isingit ung mga butik mo na gamet? tiga butika kaba?
sana nakita mo na kung pano humawak ng gitara iyang si jm at kung ganu kasarap sa tenga magpatunog yan. di mo titignan ung ginagamit nya kasi sa sarap ng tunog pipikit kana lang (or hihiyaw)
baw
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^^ natawa ako dun sa pangatlo ah.. hahaha
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another legendary thread in the making yehehes! :lol:
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sana nakita mo na kung pano humawak ng gitara iyang si jm at kung ganu kasarap sa tenga magpatunog yan. di mo titignan ung ginagamit nya kasi sa sarap ng tunog pipikit kana lang (or hihiyaw)
baw
lol.....jim plays well kahit sabihin mong crap yung gamit nya o di highend maganda padin yung tunog masarap sa tenga and yung bends nya tama yung sukat or nasa tono....yung naka baker ganda ng guitara bend lang sablay pa :-D :-D maganda nga yung gamit crap naman yung tumutugtog what a waste ....
Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
bago bumili ng gamit invest nalang sa guitar lessons yan ata mas tama
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Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- lessons are the first thing he should spend on.
Fixed.
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lol.....jim plays well kahit sabihin mong crap yung gamit nya o di highend maganda padin yung tunog masarap sa tenga and yung bends nya tama yung sukat or nasa tono....yung naka baker ganda ng guitara bend lang sablay pa :-D :-D maganda nga yung gamit crap naman yung tumutugtog what a waste ....
bago bumili ng gamit invest nalang sa guitar lessons yan ata mas tama
^^^ This!!!!
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kung pinanganak kaya si firemodel55 na isang mahirap,
makakapagsalita pa kaya siya ng mga ganyan?
nagtatanong lang po. .. :|
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of the 3 builders, i have only had the chance to try out Jim's pedals but also owned some by another builder. i can say that Jim's pedals are very well built and the guy just puts too much dedication into building his pedals that you will be assured that it's top shelf.
Jim used a Fender Strat and a Fender Concert amp to test the pedals he made for me. as far as i'm concerned, i can call that industry standard, at par with any other amp out there.
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hmmmmm... para sa akin lang, kung parehas ang buying power ng mga pedal builders at si firemodel55. Malamang magiinvest ang mga builders sa mga high end na mga gamit.
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or, he can just lend them some of his high end equipments.
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im interested in our local pedal builders because I never knew that we have them, I want to get some pedals from them in the future if I learn enough about custom pedals, sa ngayon kase puro mga pedals na available lang sa guitar shops ang medyo alam ko..
Lets just stick to the topic, and that is promoting our local builders, syempre theres always room for improvement, but lets comment in positive constructive ways.
More power to our local luthiers and pedalbuilders
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wait. correct me if im wrong but, if you have your individual set up then it will be "my set up vs your set up" na?
because all other variables should be constant except the tube screamers if you wanna prove that your tube screamer is better than the clones..
anyway nothings prolly gonna be worng since you are comparing Tube screamers most prolly they have the same circuits..
it should be "your tube screamer vs tube screamer clones"?
ppwede ba kung:
yung individual set up mo + your tube screamer, then yung tube screamer clones will your use your set up too? para constant ang other variables..
paki correct nalang kung mali analogy ko..
Its like buying a new pickup... you install it on your guitar right? I mean you don't assess it after buying and installing it on another person's guitar that you are unfamiliar with.
Tingin mo lahat na tube screamer ay pareho ang tunog? Tingin mo lahat tamang calibration if all the controls are twelve o clock inclusive of clones? Of course not. You have to use your own ear as a guide on YOUR OWN GEAR THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. When I was in New York, the boutique shops would always ask me my gear because they would try to find the closest guitar, the closest amp to my setup just to test a pedal and believe me they have so much equipment to choose from including vintage amps and guitars.
You are dead wrong to think na ang circuit defines a TS808. I even feel its more of the type of chip and Texas Instruments Made in Malaysia sounds better than the JRC Japan. No matter how bad I wanted the Japan chip to sound better.
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Well, part2 touched on it briefly, look for jmorerro's quote towards the end about the bigger importance of guitar and amp. Even if it the article did not focus on that, ok lang. It's all about the local DIY stomps, so they zero in on the topic.
I think they would do well to stick to their niche. Not to say they shouldn't accept international orders, but to say they have to design and build for international artists implies that you should only please that market. They are first and foremost Filipinos, so naturally they cater to a lot to local orders. I say draw inspiration from the foreign builds, then use your ears and creativity to build something that first, sounds good to you, and second, works well in full band situation. All in local context. If others use their wallet to agree with what you have built, then all well and good, you build a following, you have a good product.
Nevermind the foreign acts or foreign artists, most of whom would buy local to them anyway and thumb their nose down on most Asian non-japanese builds. But it's a bonus if some would order from you.
Maybe it's funny to you, but you have just made a blanket statement that they don't have good amps. In fact, it's rudimentary that a good build must sound good in a number of amps, and a lot of them audition on amps a lot of people use. Not just one. Who would test on only a single behringer w/ an 8" speaker amp? You think he would be successful? (rhetorical)
Also, versions are only an indicator, that either the build is a work in progress (to get something right or try new parts/methods), or it is a true custom build that customers can ask for modifications they see fit for their needs. What's so funny about that? There is no standard for 'good sounding' (arguable for you, but don't take it there), and to truly move forward you gotta work in different platforms.
Eh. So maybe next time they could put out an article about the guitar and amp. I don't think it glorifies the pedals too much, just a good write-up on the chosen subject. Which happens to be local pedal builders.
Good for you. But I hate to break it to you, the whole "If you work at the parts the whole will be a success" does not necessarily apply. It only works, and there's only success if the results speak to you in a positive way. "Premium parts" are meant to attract buyers like you, who demand the best, also at a premium. Not to say that they don't build with premium parts to begin with, because some will... just to have that base covered right at the beginning. Fortunately, having local builders you can actually go to, speak with, and audition builds with, means that tolerances can be a little looser and tweakable. BTW, did you audition your tubescreamer dual opamp chip with other chips? It's socketed, isn't it?
I agree here. But pedals are some of the cheapest fun you can get if you're bored with your gear.
Siore, its all about standards. The foreign guys have better sound standards than us, generally. I did mention an example with the Cornell First Fuzz which I initially thought was just some guy pulling my leg just because he designed the first Dallas Arbiter Fuzzes. But lo and behold, his product delivers. Remember, I hate fuzzes.
With regards to amps, again iba ang standards ng amps abroad THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE USE. Sino ba dito may 1968 na plexi or Fender na Tweed, ilan lang kami may Diezel or even Marshall na kompleto ang tubo mula preamp hangang power amp? Dito lang naman walang standard sa tunog kasi kulang ng perang pambili. Punta kang new york. Wala kang makikitang behringer. Mga amp na vintage, mga dumble, mga trainwreck, makakahanap ka para maka test ng gitara. Kung walang standard sa tunog, then any high end studio could have just used behringer amps to record.
Bakit si Klon Centaur walang modification? And yet its still selling like hot cakes maski na hindi ko nagustuhan. Eh, kasi may specific application na magandang tunog for a majority na hindi na pa kailangan i-customize per individual.
As I said, they are a commercial success and offer superior value for money -- something I don't dispute but are NOT world class in quality and sound.
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kung pinanganak kaya si firemodel55 na isang mahirap,
makakapagsalita pa kaya siya ng mga ganyan?
nagtatanong lang po. .. :|
Nope...
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of the 3 builders, i have only had the chance to try out Jim's pedals but also owned some by another builder. i can say that Jim's pedals are very well built and the guy just puts too much dedication into building his pedals that you will be assured that it's top shelf.
Jim used a Fender Strat and a Fender Concert amp to test the pedals he made for me. as far as i'm concerned, i can call that industry standard, at par with any other amp out there.
Someone was able to test one of the 3 builder's TS clone. Naging ngo ngo pag back down the guitar volume in contrast to which the TS9 continued to maintain highs despite the backed off guitar volume. Obviously, thats not industry standard.
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hindi ba "Busted" na itong usapin na 'to sa Visual sound's version of mythbusters?!
Pasensiya na... hindi ako bilib sa Visual Sound...
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Its like buying a new pickup... you install it on your guitar right? I mean you don't assess it after buying and installing it on another person's guitar that you are unfamiliar with.
Tingin mo lahat na tube screamer ay pareho ang tunog? Tingin mo lahat tamang calibration if all the controls are twelve o clock inclusive of clones? Of course not. You have to use your own ear as a guide on YOUR OWN GEAR THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. When I was in New York, the boutique shops would always ask me my gear because they would try to find the closest guitar, the closest amp to my setup just to test a pedal and believe me they have so much equipment to choose from including vintage amps and guitars.
You are dead wrong to think na ang circuit defines a TS808. I even feel its more of the type of chip and Texas Instruments Made in Malaysia sounds better than the JRC Japan. No matter how bad I wanted the Japan chip to sound better.
You are dead wrong. Period.
Akin na yung pedal mo testingin ko sa gitara at amp ko. Ganun lang ka-simple yun. May reference na naman sa New York.
Pero get this Mr Firemodel, no amount of money can buy YOU (just you) good tone. Di ka marunong tumugtog. Based on your swirling video, and comparing to other people's demos. Di mo alam kung ala ka na sa tono, simpleng pentatonic run lang ang sagwa na e. Kung yun lang e di mo na nakuha, paano kami maniniwala sa ibang ka-lechehan na pinagsasabi mo?
Kung marunong ka talaga tumugtog, sa kayabangan mo, dapat ang dami ng video na nagkalat na tumutugtog ka at pinupuri mo yung sarili mo. Pero sa haba ng panahon "swirling" lang napala namin sayo.
Back to topic:
I am willing to bet that si juwanfidel09 or sige any other player in this thread lang can play thru markv's shredhead and tapos naka blindfold sa kanila yung jmorrero pedals, tapos naka-counterweight sa left hand yung buong line ng liptone pedals tapos rj rage amps (meron pa ba nun?) na kinalikot ni mang raul lang ang gamit e masmaganda pa tone kesa kay firemodel thru his ugly baker and crappy diezel. Because our local builders are practicing musicians as well. These pedals are not out to produce just tone, but they're intended to ultimately help produce music.
Kelangan nila ng magpo-posing dito sa site nato Firemodel o, forum din naman:
digitalphotographer.com.ph/
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una apoymodelo69 - pano mo nalaman na wala sila matino gitara? close kayo?
(Ano ba ang tingin mong matino na gitara?)
pangalawa apoymodelo69 - tama, kasama ang gitara, ampli, cable, pikup at kung ano ano pa sa pagbuo ng tunog, pero naisip mo na ba kung sino talaga nagpapatunog?
(Ito ang kakatawa. Iyan ang sinasabi ng marami kaso ang mga idol niyong nagigitara abroad ay may specific na gitara, paboritong ampli, length specific cable, custom wound pickup na hind gawa sa pinas at walang bilib sa sarilling daliri nila)
pangatlo apoymodelo69 - baket ba kylangan mo lagi isingit ung mga butik mo na gamet? tiga butika kaba?
(Bakit? Bumili ka na ba pedal from any of the three? Bumili ka muna tapos pagusapan natin ang butika.)
sana nakita mo na kung pano humawak ng gitara iyang si jm at kung ganu kasarap sa tenga magpatunog yan. di mo titignan ung ginagamit nya kasi sa sarap ng tunog pipikit kana lang (or hihiyaw)
baw
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You are dead wrong. Period.
Akin na yung pedal mo testingin ko sa gitara at amp ko. Ganun lang ka-simple yun. May reference na naman sa New York.
Pero get this Mr Firemodel, no amount of money can buy YOU (just you) good tone. Di ka marunong tumugtog. Based on your swirling video, and comparing to other people's demos. Di mo alam kung ala ka na sa tono, simpleng pentatonic run lang ang sagwa na e. Kung yun lang e di mo na nakuha, paano kami maniniwala sa ibang ka-lechehan na pinagsasabi mo?
Kung marunong ka talaga tumugtog, sa kayabangan mo, dapat ang dami ng video na nagkalat na tumutugtog ka at pinupuri mo yung sarili mo. Pero sa haba ng panahon "swirling" lang napala namin sayo.
Back to topic:
I am willing to bet that si juwanfidel09 or sige any other player in this thread lang can play thru markv's shredhead and tapos naka blindfold sa kanila yung jmorrero pedals, tapos naka-counterweight sa left hand yung buong line ng liptone pedals tapos rj rage amps (meron pa ba nun?) na kinalikot ni mang raul lang ang gamit e masmaganda pa tone kesa kay firemodel thru his ugly baker and crappy diezel. Because our local builders are practicing musicians as well. These pedals are not out to produce just tone, but they're intended to ultimately help produce music.
Kelangan nila ng magpo-posing dito sa site nato Firemodel o, forum din naman:
digitalphotographer.com.ph/
Gobot, mas magaling ka kaysa akin?
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Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
I definitely agree. It's a very common mistake (fell for it when I was starting out too.. ).
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Gobot, mas magaling ka kaysa akin?
hindi ka naman magaling. maski sino masmagaling sayo.
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lurker post para mas madaling mahanap :-D
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hmmmmm... para sa akin lang, kung parehas ang buying power ng mga pedal builders at si firemodel55. Malamang magiinvest ang mga builders sa mga high end na mga gamit.
Hindi lang siguro pedal builders. I'm sure if all of us have the same buying power as sir firemodel55, then lahat tayo may high end na gamit. But the sad part is, we don't so we stick to what we can afford.
2 of the 3 builders palang ang natry ko ang pedal, one from each. I'd love to try sir jim's pedals, lalo na yung Dzound but money issues keeps me from getting one..
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Gobot, mas magaling ka kaysa akin?
I know this is futile, stating no recording device can capture his tone, but WTH, DEMO! :-D
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hindi ka naman magaling. maski sino masmagaling sayo.
Pati ikaw? Ipakita mo nga galing mo.
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hindi ka naman magaling. maski sino masmagaling sayo.
laughtrip to! hehehe :-D :-D :-D makapag praktis nga para gumaling :-D :-D
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Someone was able to test one of the 3 builder's TS clone. Naging ngo ngo pag back down the guitar volume in contrast to which the TS9 continued to maintain highs despite the backed off guitar volume. Obviously, thats not industry standard.
there are just so much factors to consider when you say ngo-ngo, and the biggest factor is still the player. what amp and guitar did he use? well even if you answer it we wouldn't know for sure since there is no video/audio support. it's possible na kaya naging ngo-ngo yung sound is because of the guitar's pots rolling off too much treble.
you also have to factor in the builder's learning curve. no one gets it right the first time, after all.
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I sure would like to hear some clips of the all the boxes here..personally, i went to the same highschool and college of niel from subzero and also joined the same band competitions back in the day..i know this guy can play and the hard work he is capable of...if i had an extra 3k, id easily get any of these boxes..give it a try and have it modded for my preference..it all boils down to what the player wants to sound like..beit botique or custom..**runs to grab guitar and practice..let's not hate..tulungan n lng tyo lahat...peace out!
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sa tingin ko di nagkakaintindihan. MAGTAGALOG NA LANG KAYO e puro naman tayo Pilipino at marunong magtagalog (MALAMANG!). Iba iba kasi bitaw ng pag english ng isa at ng iisa pa at ng iba kaya yung iba di na magkaintindihan or iba ang pagkakaintindi. :lol:
Para lang sa pagkakaintindihan... Pls... walang call centre language. :lol:
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gagaling yan si firemodel pag nakuha nya yung pick of destiny. :-D
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Hindi lang siguro pedal builders. I'm sure if all of us have the same buying power as sir firemodel55, then lahat tayo may high end na gamit. But the sad part is, we don't so we stick to what we can afford.
2 of the 3 builders palang ang natry ko ang pedal, one from each. I'd love to try sir jim's pedals, lalo na yung Dzound but money issues keeps me from getting one..
(Last off topic reply)
Pero kahit na hindi high end yung gear nila, at least they're able to maximize the capabilities ng mga gamit nila :)
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gagaling yan si firemodel pag nakuha nya yung pick of destiny. :-D
uunahan ko sya mahanap yun!!!! nandito daw sa singapore e
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challengeofthegobots/jim/liptone vs firemodel55
jam nalang kayo salitan ng solos..... firemodel using yung gears nya ganun din si challengeofthegobots/jim/liptone(using kanyakanyang gear) pero dapat same volume level lang labanan ....
tapos dun natin mapapakinggan yung tone na pinag mamalaki ni firemodel55.... boutique gearhead vs musicians
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Pati ikaw? Ipakita mo nga galing mo.
Ikaw muna, ikaw itong puro posing. Pero sige pag-agree ka dun sa jam, sisipot ako. Alam naman natin kung gaano ka ka-[pichapie] sa ganyang mga jamming at show of skills e. Sabihin mo lang. Pero yung magrerecord ng video pa ako para sayo, kahit bayaran mo ako di ako magsasayang ng oras para i-entertain ka.
Guni guni mo lang yung maganda tone mo. Pangit ang tone mo. Tanggapin mo na yun. Ang ugat ng tone player, and you suck as a player so kung ano ugat yun yung puno. Kahit yung mga friends mong si Cliff, Gil at kung sinu-sino pa I'm sure ganyan din sinasabi at tumatawa sila na nagoyo ka nila. Poser.
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Summer nagyon. Mainit. Pero Mahangin. :-D
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challengeofthegobots/jim/liptone vs firemodel55
jam nalang kayo salitan ng solos..... firemodel using yung gears nya ganun din si challengeofthegobots/jim/liptone(using kanyakanyang gear) pero dapat same volume level lang labanan ....
tapos dun natin mapapakinggan yung tone na pinag mamalaki ni firemodel55.... boutique gearhead vs musicians
uy! panood! gusto ko makakakita ng mamahaling gamit e, kulang kasi ako sa exposure sa mga ganun :(
@plugzzzz - sir! mismo talaga yung rectorizer nyo! ako po yung nagtesting nung pedal shootout sa ten02 :)
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nung unang basa ko sa thread di ko akalaing ganito kapupuntahan :-D
basta my DeMarini 2011 CF4 ST DXCFB can beat all your pedals combined. period. :evil:
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@plugzzzz - sir! mismo talaga yung rectorizer nyo! ako po yung nagtesting nung pedal shootout sa ten02 :)
zup uu na tatandaan ko kaw yung maluffet na shredder =) musta
I nominate this thread as Thread of the Year 2011( napaaga ata) :-D
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take it easy mga brothers..i believe jam posted this 1 as an appreciation thread..
tone is subjective kaya hnd nyo kelangan mgatalo..kung may mga critics and skeptics,thats part of it.
as 1 of the the 3 mentioned above, simpleng "salamat" lng is more than enough.
in behalf of all the builders dito sa pinas,siguro naman in a way e nakatulong or may natulungan
kami or maybe atleast nakapgcontribute kmi sa satisfaction nyo.
hindi natin kailanagn magtalo mga brothers.this thread doesnt even call for a shootout.
malay natin some of our builders will someday be known internationally,it's just a matter of time.
i admit i'm still on the infant stage,i have alot to learn,all we need is support..
peace lang po tyo mga kapatid..
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Noong kong salta dito sa forums, bumilib talaga ako at di makapaniwala na meron nang mga DIY stompboxes at makers dito sa Pinas. About a decade ako,ni isa wala man lang ako nahanap. So to our Filipino stompbox makers : God bless at sana lumawak pa at mag-expand ang inyung mga prospects in the music scene!
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basta my DeMarini 2011 CF4 ST DXCFB can beat all your pedals combined. period. :evil:
This.
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take it easy mga brothers..i believe jam posted this 1 as an appreciation thread..
tone is subjective kaya hnd nyo kelangan mgatalo..kung may mga critics and skeptics,thats part of it.
as 1 of the the 3 mentioned above, simpleng "salamat" lng is more than enough.
in behalf of all the builders dito sa pinas,siguro naman in a way e nakatulong or may natulungan
kami or maybe atleast nakapgcontribute kmi sa satisfaction nyo.
hindi natin kailanagn magtalo mga brothers.this thread doesnt even call for a shootout.
malay natin some of our builders will someday be known internationally,it's just a matter of time.
i admit i'm still on the infant stage,i have alot to learn,all we need is support..
peace lang po tyo mga kapatid..
+1 for this
suggestion lang, pero sa tingin ko mukhang imposible, bakit di magkaroon ng parang gathering yung mga pedalmakers and yung gear ni firemodel55 (under his supervision of course) yung mga gagamitin para matest yung mga pedals sa high-end guitars and amps. wala kasing nangyayari kung puro dito lang sa forum ung usapan. :wink:
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nung unang basa ko sa thread di ko akalaing ganito kapupuntahan :-D
basta my DeMarini 2011 CF4 ST DXCFB can beat all your pedals combined. period. :evil:
Had the chance to try a DeMarini bat (forgot the model)... Mismo yun! :-D
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bakit di magkaroon ng parang gathering yung mga pedalmakers and yung gear ni firemodel55 (under his supervision of course) yung mga gagamitin para matest yung mga pedals sa high-end guitars and amps. wala kasing nangyayari kung puro dito lang sa forum ung usapan. :wink:
The chances of this happening is next to impossible. :-D
We all know that. But let's just hope Mr. firemodel55 indulge us with his tone. :-)
Hats off to our pedal builders.
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IBTL
IMHO a lot of the people who have posted replies so far succeed in showing their guitar and equipment knowledge...and fail at sociability. Para tuloy tayong mga hayop dito.
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Astig talaga sina Liptone, Jmorrero at Subzero...
pero marami ding "silent but deadly" builders dito sa atin...
Sina PLUGS (Rectorizer), RAVE (COS, CRUNCHO) at MARK V(Shredhead)...
Swerte tayo ang daming magagaling dito...
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Astig talaga sina Liptone, Jmorrero at Subzero...
pero marami ding "silent but deadly" builders dito sa atin...
Sina PLUGS (Rectorizer), RAVE (COS, CRUNCHO) at MARK V(Shredhead)...
Swerte tayo ang daming magagaling dito...
TAMA!!!!
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gagaling yan si firemodel pag nakuha nya yung pick of destiny. :-D
Hahahah! Hindi ibibigay ni jack black yun. :-)
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This thread's gotten out of hand. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions about tone. Sa mga guitar forums kasi, 'pag may umayaw sa gear na nakapost, daming reaction/away. Everyone has to accept na kanya-kanya naman ang tone. I actually believe that that makes it so much more interesting. It really shows how music can be a form of personal expression. Marami kasing preferences eh. I also think that dissing other people because of their playing skills is equally as bad as dissing other people because of their tone. It's just as elitist and immature. Hindi naman pagalingan ang music eh. :-)
To each his tone....
Back on topic:
I agree that it's pretty cool to have our own builders. It's great for those people that don't like the mainstream offerings of the usual Boss/MXR line-ups, but aren't interested in the hassle and/or expense of going for foreign custom pedals. Plus, a lot of the builders also do repairs for some pedals, which is really cool (kung wala sila, sobrang hassle kung magpapaayos pa ng pedal abroad. baka mas mahal pa kaysa sa newer pedal).
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Pag may nag-brought up ng word na 'BLUES' -- may away.
Pag may nag-brought up ng word na 'TONE' -- may away.
.... saan tayo lulugar? Jam na lang? :D
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ayos si neil ng subzerofx. mura maningil at mismo yung gawa :-)
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baka pagawa nadin ako ng mga local pedals nalang, sira na lahat ng pedals ko eh :lol:
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PS: ( may thread ba ditong pang [grape]? yung hindi masyado matindi english , kase marami din nagbo-browse dito TO LEARN about guitars and not to watch a WWF match )
You can ask questions at the newbie thread or faq thread din. For that, some kind of weird fuzz naiisip ko.
.... saan tayo lulugar? Jam na lang? :D
Inom and jam nalang :lol: para good vibes :lol:
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You can ask questions at the newbie thread or faq thread din. For that, some kind of weird fuzz naiisip ko.
Inom and jam nalang :lol: para good vibes :lol:
pano ung di marunong mag jam :?
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Mabuhay!! Galing nyo!!
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Ikaw muna, ikaw itong puro posing. Pero sige pag-agree ka dun sa jam, sisipot ako. Alam naman natin kung gaano ka [chocolate] sa ganyang mga jamming at show of skills e. Sabihin mo lang. Pero yung magrerecord ng video pa ako para sayo, kahit bayaran mo ako di ako magsasayang ng oras para i-entertain ka.
Guni guni mo lang yung maganda tone mo. Pangit ang tone mo. Tanggapin mo na yun. Ang ugat ng tone player, and you suck as a player so kung ano ugat yun yung puno. Kahit yung mga friends mong si Cliff, Gil at kung sinu-sino pa I'm sure ganyan din sinasabi at tumatawa sila na nagoyo ka nila. Poser.
January 2012 -- you and me. Sa isang studio. You on your gear. Me on my gear. One hour worth of playing each to be recorded both on video on audio. Up to the challenge?
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January 2012 -- you and me. Sa isang studio. You on your gear. Me on my gear. One hour worth of playing each to be recorded both on video on audio. Up to the challenge?
panuod.... kahit may ticket ill pay wag lang sanang masyadong mahal....patest din ng gears mo sir FM by that time siguro hawak muna yung gil yaron...
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panuod.... kahit may ticket ill pay wag lang sanang masyadong mahal....patest din ng gears mo sir FM by that time siguro hawak muna yung gil yaron...
Maghahanap muna ako ng magandang studio... I will charge GOBOT.
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Maghahanap muna ako ng magandang studio... I will charge GOBOT.
mag rent nalang ng place tapos nandun highend stuff mo sir FM sama nadin natin yung ibang me highend stuff... tapos me entrance fee para makapasok & matest yung gamit... para magkaroon naman kami ng standard yung tone na sinasabi mo.. problema kasi walang access ang massang pinoy to hear and try those you called highend boutique gear siguro pag naka try kami mag agree na kami sa idea mo ng great tone at maset na eto yung hinahabol ko/namin eto ang kailangan ko eto yung kailangan kong pagipunan etc...
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@plugzzzz - ok naman po sir, di na nakakapagitara gawa ng trabaho :(
mag rent nalang ng place tapos nandun highend stuff mo sir FM sama nadin natin yung ibang me highend stuff... tapos me entrance fee para makapasok & matest yung gamit... para magkaroon naman kami ng standard yung tone na sinasabi mo.. problema kasi walang access ang massang pinoy to hear and try those you called highend boutique gear siguro pag naka try kami mag agree na kami sa idea mo ng great tone at maset na eto yung hinahabol ko/namin eto ang kailangan ko eto yung kailangan kong pagipunan etc...
agree ako dito, besides parang one-sided yata kung yung gusto ni firemodel55 yung masusunod. mas ok siguro kung both sides magaagree kung saang studio gaganapin yung jam or whatever. ayun din pala, if my memory serves me right, nagsulat dati si FM55 ng isang thread na kailangan tayong i-educate tungkol sa tone. Well, eto na yung chance nyo :)
back-to-topic:
nakasubok pala ako dati ng D'Zound ni Jim Morrero dati. maganda sya for my taste, very responsive and di tunaw yung notes :)
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Maghahanap muna ako ng magandang studio... I will charge GOBOT.
Go! Ala Crossroads dapat. A few thousand spent on shutting you up is worth more than the $8000 you're wasting for your guitar. At least pagnag-duelo tayo may mapupulot ka pa, kahit konti magkaroon ng progress yung playing mo. E after mo makuha yung $8000 guitar mo, your playing stays as bad as it is.
Tara, gusto ko may audience ha. Sagot ko na yung event. Sagot ko na rin banda. Walang entrance fee basta sumipot ka lang. Wag na natin paabutin pa sa Gil Yaron mo. Dun na lang sa bingengot mong Baker at tunog lata mong Diezel tapos ulit na lang kung gusto mo pa pagdating ng '59 wannabe mo. Thru your fingers, Marshall MG100 at RJ Guitar lang katapat ng gear mo. (Pero ala ako nun e)
Criteria: Better sounding music thru a guitarists tone.
Procedure: 10 mins. with the backing band I IV V Blues Progression over several keys para lumabas talaga yung timplahan.
Tapos eto yung condition: Matalo magdodonate ng pang pro-webhosting ng PhilMusic para ala ng "Connection Problems". Tapos one year sa sig nya "Pangit ang tone ko. Pangit ako." Para may mapala naman lahat.
Ano game ka? Or are you gonna be consistent with your personality, all talk, no balls?
Seque to thread topic:
If this comedy show happens to push through, can I get a special price on the Rectorizer? That thing can cream whatever this poser can ever dream to come up with his playing on his gear.
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nako sino kayang magdidikta ng mangyayare sa challenge na ito?
yung last DUELO na nabasa kong thread.. hindi natuloy eh.. pero si FM55 nag dictate ng rules and regulations :lol:
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January 2012 -- you and me. Sa isang studio. You on your gear. Me on my gear. One hour worth of playing each to be recorded both on video on audio. Up to the challenge?
huwag mo na paaubutan ng 2012 alex kaw naman oh,,wag ka na magpractice tone naman sukatan nito eh,,dali na! payt abangan ko to,,malamang daig pa to concert ng mr.big etc combined LOL hahaha Tara lets bagets! napa comment tuloy ako lurker na nga lang ako eh
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Tapos one year sa sig nya "Pangit ang tone ko. Pangit ako." Para may mapala naman lahat.
Haha, now this statement made me laugh!
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huwag mo na paaubutan ng 2012 alex kaw naman oh,,wag ka na magpractice
eto rin iniisip ko. sa susunod na magpractice or magenroll sa guitar lesson or kung ano man. eto na yung walk your talk eh.
marami namang magandang studio diyan. besides, kanya kanya namang gamit di ba
at panood :-D
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January 2012 -- you and me. Sa isang studio.
I'll rent a bar, turn it into a production. I'll invite other bands. Kelangan may audience. Total, mayabang ka in front of the community, then it is in front of the community you defend or prove yourself. Besides, I don't wanna be alone in a room with you with cameras and all. I'm not into that kind of thing, straight ako pare.
And yes bakit 2012 pa? ASAP dapat. Ngayon summer 2011.
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huwag mo na paaubutan ng 2012 alex kaw naman oh,,wag ka na magpractice tone naman sukatan nito eh,,dali na! payt abangan ko to,,malamang daig pa to concert ng mr.big etc combined LOL hahaha Tara lets bagets! napa comment tuloy ako lurker na nga lang ako eh
i agree with ael bat paabutin pa ng 2012 since the person that is being challenged (sir fm55) is a tone connoisseur i dont think setting up one in a few weeks notice would be a problem.
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woah I wish I could see this showdown (if matuloy). sana may video. :-D
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nasaba ko rin sa isang thread na ilang months in the making tapos hindi natuloy.. old thread ..
so ngayon sana asap na..
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Yes pls., can someone take a video of this momentous event? So that all interested forumites can see the results for themselves, even if only a few can attend.
I don't really mind whether current technology can or cannnot accurately copy the audio. I just wanna see the event transpire.
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i agree with ael bat paabutin pa ng 2012 since the person that is being challenged (sir fm55) is a tone connoisseur i dont think setting up one in a few weeks notice would be a problem.
I'm the one being challenged.
edit....
Just thought of the event's title: "ChallengedoftheGobots"... corny hahaha
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mga jason becker yata pyesa ni firemodel kaya ganun katagal preparasyon nya.
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sino kaya ang magjudge?
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mayweather-pacquiao ito. it will never happen. too many conditions. plus there will be more conditions on top of them, just wait see... :-P
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live streaming!!!!! :-D
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mayweather-pacquiao ito. it will never happen. too many conditions. plus there will be more conditions on top of them, just wait see... :-P
eto rin pakiramdam ko. parang yung challenge lang din noon. pero sana talaga matuloy
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Tapos one year sa sig nya "Pangit ang tone ko. Pangit ako." Para may mapala naman lahat.
nalibang ako sa pagbabasa ng thread na toh.. but this one made me laugh!! hahahaha..
benta sakin toh..abangan ko nga toh! haha :-D
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exciting to :-o. can we make a new thread for this?
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The chances of this happening is next to impossible. :-D
We all know that. But let's just hope Mr. firemodel55 indulge us with his tone. :-)
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,58050.0.html
Hopefully matuloy na ASAP. Hindi naman siguro almost a year aabutin maghanap ng studio. :|
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hmm it fits the bill
gearweather vs pakhiyaw :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
@challenge
hehe pwede naman eh
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sana ASAP na rin yun duel para tapos na. i don't think i can take a year of reading trash posted on really good threads
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EVENT OF THE YEAR!!!!!!
:-D
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exciting to :-o. can we make a new thread for this?
+1 OT na eh
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January 2012 -- you and me. Sa isang studio. You on your gear. Me on my gear. One hour worth of playing each to be recorded both on video on audio. Up to the challenge?
di na matutuloy yan. end of the world na e :lol: :lol:
@firemodel: youre confident with your current gear right? bakit kelangan january 2012 pa? mahilig ka makipagduel tuwing start ng taon :lol: :lol:
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I have to admit this is quite exciting. On another thread I admitted resigning to my bedroom and being mediocre and now I'm being challenged by this forum's biggest and loudest poser.
Sana matuloy. Sagot ko na talaga yung event, matuloy lang.
Pero I know pikon lang sya dahil di nya kayang i-substantiate yung mga pinagsasabi nya kaya yan naghahamon. Hamon de bola.
Firemodel55: Sa kamay mo bingengot yung Baker mo at lata ang Diezel mo. Yung Gil Yaron mo, sa mga kamay mo, magiging Gil Raon yan! Kahit anong hiyaw hiyaw mo dyan, lahat ng pedals sa thread na 'to masmaganda pa rin ang tone kesa sa tone mo! That's a fact. Disagree? Prove me wrong.
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I have to admit this is quite exciting. On another thread I admitted resigning to my bedroom and being mediocre and now I'm being challenged by this forum's biggest and loudest poser.
Sana matuloy. Sagot ko na talaga yung event, matuloy lang.
Pero I know pikon lang sya dahil di nya kayang i-substantiate yung mga pinagsasabi nya kaya yan naghahamon. Hamon de bola.
Firemodel55: Sa kamay mo bingengot yung Baker mo at lata ang Diezel mo. Yung Gil Yaron mo, sa mga kamay mo, magiging Gil Raon yan! Kahit anong hiyaw hiyaw mo dyan, lahat ng pedals sa thread na 'to masmaganda pa rin ang tone kesa sa tone mo! That's a fact. Disagree? Prove me wrong.
bwahahhahaha
starting a blaze aren't we sir
hahahha kakaibang provocation :D:D:D
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hahah @Fm55 dali na payt na huwag mo na paabutin ng 2012 kasi MUNTENGE kang tignan! dali na uy! basta kahit ako pa magpapalive stream niyan para sayo!
ganyan ka naman alex eh hahah instead na constructive, criticism ginagawa mo :) kaya tara lets ayan na oh pumayag na yung hinamon mo, dali na!
di ko lam kung nagjojoke ka or nag papaptaas ka ng post count :lol: :lol: :lol:
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natawa ako dun sa Gil Raon :lol:
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:lol:
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naging "showdown" thread na... :-D
nice read dun sa articles! we need more of 'em!
:)
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o sige anong format ng showdown na to? pano gagawing program? :lol: asa namang matuloy to. :-D
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GOBOT!!
please make a new thread for this! baka ma lock ang current thread dahil sa OT :-D
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IBTL Gil Raon FTW
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Why the long wait? Can't you guys do it after Holy Week?
Well, as I said, Alex wants only HIS and HIS conditions alone met.
Doesn't that in itself prove something?
But wait, if you really want to prove something in this contest - the player is part of the tone equation - then use Alex's equipment exclusively! Pareho kayo. Kung sino ang mas maayos magpatunog yun ang panalo. Remember - SAME EQUIPMENT - two different people.
But still....bakit kailangan 2012 pa? Wala ba siyang tiwala sa present gear niya at kailangan makuha pa yung Yarron?
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hey guys lets not make fun of Mr. Gil Yarron, he is a respected builder and he shouldn't be part of this whirlwind thread.
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Why the long wait? Can't you guys do it after Holy Week?
Well, as I said, Alex wants only HIS and HIS conditions alone met.
Doesn't that in itself prove something?
But wait, if you really want to prove something in this contest - the player is part of the tone equation - then use Alex's equipment exclusively! Pareho kayo. Kung sino ang mas maayos magpatunog yun ang panalo. Remember - SAME EQUIPMENT - two different people.
But still....bakit kailangan 2012 pa? Wala ba siyang tiwala sa present gear niya at kailangan makuha pa yung Yarron?
kayo naman. baka susundin niya ang payo ninyo na mag lessons.
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mag papractice pa kasi :D.. same condition kay Deltaslim dati
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Baka pwede din isingit shootout ng mga nilalait(for lack of a better word) niyang Pinoy made stuff (e.g. guitars,pickups,effects,amplifiers) against sa high end stuff ni FM55.
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mag papractice pa kasi :D.. same condition kay Deltaslim dati
oo magpapraktis pa at magpapa longhair. :mrgreen:
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gawin natin pay-per view 'to. :lol:
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can't believe it ended up like this! :lol:
but yeah, potential event of the year!
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can challenge of the gobots and firemodel send pictures of their actual selves saken? so i can sponsor the poster? photoshopped ofcourse :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Hahahahahahahaha! Astig 'to! Game! Sana matuloy 'to as in. Si GOBOT newbie pa lang e legend na!hahahahha! Ayuz 'to!
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thread clean up next. out of respect to the ts and the pedal makers (all of whom are awesome, passionate and professional---each one deserving of praise and support.)
doon na lang sa kabilang thread mag pataasan ng ihi yung dalawang bedroom guitarists na parang mga grade 2.
(ps. Liptone rules!)
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ayus yan. Gil Raon na ' 69Les Pu model + rage amps = best recording gears
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ayus yan. Gil Raon na ' 69Les Pu model + rage amps = best recording gears
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Go! Ala Crossroads dapat. A few thousand spent on shutting you up is worth more than the $8000 you're wasting for your guitar. At least pagnag-duelo tayo may mapupulot ka pa, kahit konti magkaroon ng progress yung playing mo. E after mo makuha yung $8000 guitar mo, your playing stays as bad as it is.
Tara, gusto ko may audience ha. Sagot ko na yung event. Sagot ko na rin banda. Walang entrance fee basta sumipot ka lang. Wag na natin paabutin pa sa Gil Yaron mo. Dun na lang sa bingengot mong Baker at tunog lata mong Diezel tapos ulit na lang kung gusto mo pa pagdating ng '59 wannabe mo. Thru your fingers, Marshall MG100 at RJ Guitar lang katapat ng gear mo. (Pero ala ako nun e)
Criteria: Better sounding music thru a guitarists tone.
Procedure: 10 mins. with the backing band I IV V Blues Progression over several keys para lumabas talaga yung timplahan.
Tapos eto yung condition: Matalo magdodonate ng pang pro-webhosting ng PhilMusic para ala ng "Connection Problems". Tapos one year sa sig nya "Pangit ang tone ko. Pangit ako." Para may mapala naman lahat.
Ano game ka? Or are you gonna be consistent with your personality, all talk, no balls?
Seque to thread topic:
If this comedy show happens to push through, can I get a special price on the Rectorizer? That thing can cream whatever this poser can ever dream to come up with his playing on his gear.
Game ako. I will choose the studio. Date is still January 2012. I am too busy to give you any more attention in the next few months.
Will split the cost 50-50. Agree with you first ten minutes. The Rest of the 50 minutes, free for all song selection with or without band. Got tons of stuff to show how sucky your tone is.
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@fm bakit hindi nalang sa May? kelangan pa bang hintayin yung gilyaron mo? baker mo na lang
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,230213.0.html
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There's no point in delaying this. Isang araw lang naman. Para matapos na. Game na!
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@fm bakit hindi nalang sa May? kelangan pa bang hintayin yung gilyaron mo? baker mo na lang
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,230213.0.html
practice muan ang ating mga gitarista syempre. hosted by german moreno ba ito??
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Game ako. I will choose the studio. Date is still January 2012. I am too busy to give you any more attention in the next few months.
Will split the cost 50-50. Agree with you first ten minutes. The Rest of the 50 minutes, free for all song selection with or without band. Got tons of stuff to show how sucky your tone is.
Dami mo patutsada alex wag na sa 2012 :P game na nga lahat oh dali na! Game na yan sa bahay niyo nalang kaya? para home court advantage hahahah Muntenge amf
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Puro delaying tactics. Game na! :evil:
*excited eh noh* :lol:
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wala na tayong magagawa. di na matutuloy yan 2012 pa rin e.
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practice muan ang ating mga gitarista syempre. hosted by german moreno ba ito??
hehe, excited sir e,
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hey guys lets not make fun of Mr. Gil Yarron, he is a respected builder and he shouldn't be part of this whirlwind thread.
+1. marami ring nadadamay na iba pang builders na foreign din.
Sayang yung discussion sana and exposure nung Philippine effects builders (this thread should be theirs).
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The main topic has been mega-derailed....
But I am signifying my intention to attend the "activities", if it'll be open to all.
It'll be a valuable educational moment :-)
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OT na dito. Dito nalang mag-reply yung related sa showdown: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,230213.0.html.
Para sa mga Pinoy custom FX builders itong thread na 'to eh.
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Alex, kung talagang naniniwala ka na ikaw lang ang authority on tone here, you would not resort to delaying tactics kasi matatalo mo naman kami diba?
I do not agree on the January 2012 date. I STILL SAY DO IT AFTER HOLY WEEK, BETTER YET ON MY BIRTHDAY APRIL 29!
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back to topic
Is it possible for the builders to retail their products to the music stores around the Philippines? or hindi siya feasible as of the moment?
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back to topic
Is it possible for the builders to retail their products to the music stores around the Philippines? or hindi siya feasible as of the moment?
If he can make substantial amount of products puwede siguro. I mean having 10 to 20 pieces per model...parang ganun.
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You can ask questions at the newbie thread or faq thread din. For that, some kind of weird fuzz naiisip ko.
weird fuzz, cnu kaya gumagawa nun :-D
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back to topic
Is it possible for the builders to retail their products to the music stores around the Philippines? or hindi siya feasible as of the moment?
pwede siguro, kaso mas hindi pabor ito sakanila.. dahil pag dinistribute na ito ng music stores... may resibo na.. siyempre ang stores maglalagay ng purchases nila para ideduct sa revenue.. and the rest.. di ko na babanggitin dahil baka mahuli ng BIR :-D
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pwede siguro, kaso mas hindi pabor ito sakanila.. dahil pag dinistribute na ito ng music stores... may resibo na.. siyempre ang stores maglalagay ng purchases nila para ideduct sa revenue.. and the rest.. di ko na babanggitin dahil baka mahuli ng BIR :-D
ahh so basically magmamahal yung mga pedals... hmm kaya siguro ang mahal ng boss pedals...
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ahh so basically magmamahal yung mga pedals... hmm kaya siguro ang mahal ng boss pedals...
can be, its imported from other countries, plus customs, plus patong ng music stores..
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kung mayaman lang ako, i'll start a shop na puro made by local pedal builders ang products ng walang malaking patong to help the scene. sana yung mayayaman jan ganun na lang gawin kesa naman bleep bleep bleep bleep
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'di matutuloy 'yan.. di pa ba kayo na-disappoint sa Deltaslim VS. Firemodel55? hay naku.. sobrang tagal nya mag-prep para sa isang shootout.. di ko talaga gets.. logically, di ko talaga gets..
Kudos ako sa Shredhead ni sir MarkV.. na-try ko dati nung nagpa-britmod ako.. Panalo yung COS ng Rave Electronics.. sobrang sarap ng La Mera ni sir Lipton..
mahal ng ang gamit, di naman makapag-post ng DEMO.. Demo! Demo! Demo! hay.. :-D
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...to add have the custom built pedals available for comparison sa gear ni FM55.
Tingin ko kahit may tickets to - papatok, Tone 101 :lol:
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labo, I wonder why some peeps can't agree to disagree
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ok lang yan kesa naman mag DRUGS
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Finally finished reading. kasabay nun sa kabilang thread. hihi
eksayted na me!
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labo, I wonder why some peeps can't agree to disagree
Then, life here at PM would be boring...
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Then, life here at PM would be boring...
+9999 Got that right!!!
It's so plain simple naman if same ground lahat...
Parang robot na tayo nun, programmed what to do, think or like...
@Topic:
Just saw this thread from the "Back-read" thread of AGT...
Clueless ako sa mga guitar accessories & effects...
Pero naaaliw ako sa thread posts & comments...
Baka may humingi pa ng 100m... :-D
Just to make this guitar battle possible...
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Astig talaga sina Liptone, Jmorrero at Subzero...
pero marami ding "silent but deadly" builders dito sa atin...
Sina PLUGS (Rectorizer), RAVE (COS, CRUNCHO) at MARK V(Shredhead)...
Swerte tayo ang daming magagaling dito...
at malas tayo dahil may firemodel55 na forumer :-D
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salamat sa pag ayos ng jazz bass ko kagabi jim utang ako sayo isang beer :lol:
galing talaga ng mga DIY pedal maker dito saludo kami (hindi lahat) sa inyo! Ako nga na stress sa pag hinang palang eh :lol:
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at malas tayo dahil may firemodel55 na forumer :-D
wow masyadong direct
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wow masyadong direct
nagpapakatotoo lang sir... mahirap na magsinungaling, tirik na tirik ang araw dito. baka tamaan ako ng kidlat sa kinauupuan ko :wink:
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at malas tayo dahil may firemodel55 na forumer :-D
sir jason. NOPE! maswerte tayo may FM. Nakakatanggal stress pag nagpost sya. Bihira yung tulad nya. :lol:
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sir jason. NOPE! maswerte tayo may FM. Nakakatanggal stress pag nagpost sya. Bihira yung tulad nya. :lol:
sabagay may point ka sir. im thinking of opening a shop here sa nothern territory to sell our proudly made filipino products. sana mag push through :|
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i respect our diy pedal builders. I have 2 pedals from lipton n 1 from neil.i want jims crack pedal,i also have marks sh kudos sa mga local diy natin like,plugzzz,paparoni,adev. Sana konting respect sa mga builders. D naman sila dapat i diss.
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i respect our diy pedal builders. I have 2 pedals from lipton n 1 from neil.i want jims crack pedal,i also have marks sh kudos sa mga local diy natin like,plugzzz,paparoni,adev. Sana konting respect sa mga builders. D naman sila dapat i diss.
not to mention Roger's DEC. a real innovation :-)
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sabagay may point ka sir. im thinking of opening a shop here sa nothern territory to sell our proudly made filipino products. sana mag push through :|
nice. pero pagaralan mo muna. isang matinding tyaga din lalo na sa kalagayan ng ekonomiya natin. ang hirap ng negosyo ngayon. dapat ipush ang customers kumbaga isaksak lagi sa baga nila para mapamilyar sa produkto lalo na kung bago. wish you luck sir!
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at malas tayo dahil may firemodel55 na forumer :-D
:lol: HEADSHOT! haha IMHO hindi naman ganun kamalas kasi he does stress out SOME good points in his arguments and besides Philmusic is a forum to discuss stuff wala dapat personalan :lol: tama yun sinabe ng iba. boring kung lahat tayo agree kagad sa isang bagay :wink:
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Hintay ako sa A.D.D. delay from Neil..Exciting!! Pinoy!
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boring kung lahat tayo agree kagad sa isang bagay :wink:
+10
di pwedeng walang talakayan. dapat may pakelam. dapat panindigan at tayuan. :lol:
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nice. pero pagaralan mo muna. isang matinding tyaga din lalo na sa kalagayan ng ekonomiya natin. ang hirap ng negosyo ngayon. dapat ipush ang customers kumbaga isaksak lagi sa baga nila para mapamilyar sa produkto lalo na kung bago. wish you luck sir!
mahirap nga talaga sir kung iisipin, pero look at electrosushi's Indie shop. Parang ganun na setup. They can try the pedals if they want to. Way na rin siguro para iintroduce yung mga products ng pinoy na hindi pamilyar sa philmusic. tangkilikin natin ang sariling atin.
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ano na tuloy na ba yung showdown?
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Okay na sana yung thread na off topic lang..
On Topic: I have a Subzero optical tremolo pedal for a year now. Ayus yung pagkabuild, malinis. At yung tunog, swabe. Tapos last month, latest acquired pedal ko is the Fat Booater. These 2 pedals may stay most likely in my board. Sana makabili din ako ng ibang pedal galing sa local builders natin.
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I agree here. In my opinion, if you look at FM's points, there are valid ideas there which I'm sure he could defend and would definitely lead to good, sensible discussions. It's sad that whenever he makes a comment nowadays, everyone seems to look past the valid points, takes the lot of it personally, and just plain attack him, even without personal provocation. If he wants a bet on which stompbox sounds better, then let him, there's no need to go personal and insult him and his gear (and the gearmakers themselves as well...).
I agree that some of FM's points are valid. Pero aaminin ko "KUPI" kasi ang dating niya palagi sa board. So instead of helping other musicians, he puts them down. Kaya di mo masisisi kung maraming galit sa kanya. He himself insults others.
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ano na tuloy na ba yung showdown?
Sa other thread nalang yung discussion about that :-) para hindi na OT yung thread na ito
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Back to topic. It's good that we have local builders here. Our local builders has to start somewhere. Without them a lot of local guitarists wouldn't see other windows of experiment with sound.
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kawawa naman yung thread na 'to tsk tsk..
GO PINOY NA SANA E KASO LANG... FM55 came in to crab them down.
point taken though.
pero respeto naman sa gumawa ng thread at para sa mga builders naman to for their contribution sa music scene dito sa pinas.
siyempre lahat ng tao hypocrito so, gusto ko rin matuloy yung showdown! haha
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anyway, i just got my t007 tremolo pedal from neil of subzerofx, really worth the wait and money, kudos talaga sa mga pinoy na pedal builders! :D
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Back to topic. It's good that we have local builders here. Our local builders has to start somewhere. Without them a lot of local guitarists wouldn't see other windows of experiment with sound.
I agree. We should have a mini expo for them. Like in a cafe or at a house just to display their work. It has to start somewhere.
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I agree. We should have a mini expo for them. Like in a cafe or at a house just to display their work. It has to start somewhere.
CUBAO EXPO! Art meets Music!
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i heart jim awoooo!!!! :-D
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Hintay ako sa A.D.D. delay from Neil..Exciting!! Pinoy!
its worth the wait :wink:
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:-D Lalo po ako na excite..
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I agree. We should have a mini expo for them. Like in a cafe or at a house just to display their work. It has to start somewhere.
this, sana mas marami pang builders ang magparticipate sa next GAS day.
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I agree. We should have a mini expo for them. Like in a cafe or at a house just to display their work. It has to start somewhere.
this, sana mas marami pang builders ang magparticipate sa next GAS day.
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nakakatuwa nga naman tong thread na 'to. hmm. wala naman ako sa lugar magsalit kasi di nga naman ako magaling, pero iindulge na ako. masyado lang talaga madaldal tong si firemodel55. puro tahol walang kagat.
january 2012? ano yan patawa? sa mga nabasa kong mga thread, puro hamon din siya(yung kay deltaslim) hindi naman matuloy-tuloy. puro palusot. kelangan pa ata ng isang taon para mag-ensayo. ang lakas ng loob mang-hamon. halatang gusto niya na ganun katagal para makalimutan ng mga tao sa lipas ng panahon.
LUMABAN KA NA FM55.
kampi ako kay gobot dito.
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I do NOT agree with a lot of points in the article. The only point I agree on in the article is that you need a guitar and amp for you to plug the stompbox in between. Surprisingly, the article forgets to mention that as it proceeds in the narrative. However, I think for what they are doing and their pricing, they BRING IT.
But to me, they are NOT yet world class because of the following reasons:
1) Musical Exposure -- they don't design or make pedals for the top artists in the world. Unfortunately, its a realization of the Philippine Condition. I recently bought a Cornell First Fuzz. By the way, I hate fuzzes. So does my luthier friend. But I told my luthier, you have not heard a Fuzz that sounds this good. True enough he is now a convert -- turning his tiny trebly strat into something as thick as a les paul. We were both floored but we both realized that we were never exposed to the good sounding fuzzes thru our combined years and it takes a reproduction by Mr. Cornell to show us/let us hear the beauty of the early fuzzes. By the way, it doesn't sound as fizzy as you think. In fact, if anything it makes the sound thicker and more dynamic -- yup that doesn't sound like your typical fuzz. And yet my reason for keeping it is because, it does the thick sound and dynamic in a way that no other fuzz or overdrive or distortion can.
2) Money in the Bank -- they don't own a lot of the good sounding amps and good sounding guitars that should be tested with pedals. This is the biggest minus. How sure are you that the boss they are modifying to make sound good on the behringer will NOT actually ruin your sound going thru a Fender amp? You are not. Wala kasi silang mga amp na iyon. Tingnan niyo ang mga local made pedals ay mas maraming version kaysa american and european counterparts? Natatawa lang ako.
The problem with the article is that is glorifies pedals too much and removes it SO much from the context of the guitar and amp.
I can say that I own more pedals than these three guys combined and all these pedals are 90% boutique and scattered around the house. If there should be someone designing pedals, it should be me but... I want to emphasize that the guitar with character and good sounding tube amp is worth much more than a pedal -- but more expensive too. A lot of the local designers have tube screamer clones. I have a TS9 (first re-issue MIJ) modded with riken ohms and a specially selected Texas Instrument Made in Malaysia chip that Mr. Lito Bote helped me pick out. And I am willing to bet that none of the local TS clones can beat it in terms of sound. In fact, it beat a real old vintage TS808 in terms of sound. But you know what, where that pedal really shines in is when its set as a boost in front of my 1972 Marshall Super Lead Head. Talk about people criticizing the Tube screamer mid hump, it just seems to be friendly with the amp.
Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
napaka down to earth mo naman..
tsktsk!!
let the notes do the talking!
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wala na lipas na HEhehE!
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sana isinali sa article si Levontech and his "MXR" pedals :lol: :lol: :lol:
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guys can anybody share me the recent celfone number of liptone ◄◄◄
TIA
-Emil
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I hope we have a thread or directory for all local DIYers where they can advertise their stuff and people can check out the "brands" (aka builder's works).
btw, natuloy ba yung showdown? March na. :wink:
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bakit ngayon ko lang to nabasa :-(
Kudos to all Filipino Custom FX builders :-D
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I do NOT agree with a lot of points in the article. The only point I agree on in the article is that you need a guitar and amp for you to plug the stompbox in between. Surprisingly, the article forgets to mention that as it proceeds in the narrative. However, I think for what they are doing and their pricing, they BRING IT.
But to me, they are NOT yet world class because of the following reasons:
1) Musical Exposure -- they don't design or make pedals for the top artists in the world. Unfortunately, its a realization of the Philippine Condition. I recently bought a Cornell First Fuzz. By the way, I hate fuzzes. So does my luthier friend. But I told my luthier, you have not heard a Fuzz that sounds this good. True enough he is now a convert -- turning his tiny trebly strat into something as thick as a les paul. We were both floored but we both realized that we were never exposed to the good sounding fuzzes thru our combined years and it takes a reproduction by Mr. Cornell to show us/let us hear the beauty of the early fuzzes. By the way, it doesn't sound as fizzy as you think. In fact, if anything it makes the sound thicker and more dynamic -- yup that doesn't sound like your typical fuzz. And yet my reason for keeping it is because, it does the thick sound and dynamic in a way that no other fuzz or overdrive or distortion can.
2) Money in the Bank -- they don't own a lot of the good sounding amps and good sounding guitars that should be tested with pedals. This is the biggest minus. How sure are you that the boss they are modifying to make sound good on the behringer will NOT actually ruin your sound going thru a Fender amp? You are not. Wala kasi silang mga amp na iyon. Tingnan niyo ang mga local made pedals ay mas maraming version kaysa american and european counterparts? Natatawa lang ako.
The problem with the article is that is glorifies pedals too much and removes it SO much from the context of the guitar and amp.
I can say that I own more pedals than these three guys combined and all these pedals are 90% boutique and scattered around the house. If there should be someone designing pedals, it should be me but... I want to emphasize that the guitar with character and good sounding tube amp is worth much more than a pedal -- but more expensive too. A lot of the local designers have tube screamer clones. I have a TS9 (first re-issue MIJ) modded with riken ohms and a specially selected Texas Instrument Made in Malaysia chip that Mr. Lito Bote helped me pick out. And I am willing to bet that none of the local TS clones can beat it in terms of sound. In fact, it beat a real old vintage TS808 in terms of sound. But you know what, where that pedal really shines in is when its set as a boost in front of my 1972 Marshall Super Lead Head. Talk about people criticizing the Tube screamer mid hump, it just seems to be friendly with the amp.
Don't get me wrong... I also enjoy pedals but I want to say, if the Filipino is to first improve his tone -- pedals (stompboxes) are not the first things he should spend on.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I was thinking of making a "Made In The Philippines" pedalboard, with all the content (flight case, board, PSU & chains, patch cables, and stompboxes) crafted here by our brothers. I was fantasizing about the idea for a long time now, just couldn't get up to move into action. I'll be starting the project this 2012 though. Would post pictures before the year ends, if I get to complete it all. :-)
BTW, natuloy ba yung showdown?
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natuloy... fliptop lang... :-P
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I was thinking of making a "Made In The Philippines" pedalboard, with all the content (flight case, board, PSU & chains, patch cables, and stompboxes) crafted here by our brothers. I was fantasizing about the idea for a long time now, just couldn't get up to move into action. I'll be starting the project this 2012 though. Would post pictures before the year ends, if I get to complete it all. :-)
BTW, natuloy ba yung showdown?
What for? The imported board setup look cooler and sound more awesome.
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What for? The imported board setup look cooler and sound more awesome.
youch. the point of the thread was to talk about products made by hometurf guys -kinda to share info and tone, you know? no need to swat them down like that, man. folks are just supporting the scene and sharing knowledge and that is all good in my book.
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youch. the point of the thread was to talk about products made by hometurf guys -kinda to share info and tone, you know? no need to swat them down like that, man. folks are just supporting the scene and sharing knowledge and that is all good in my book.
Yup and I am also sharing my knowledge. Abyss, you have to understand because of the low standards in this country -- the Philippines -- anybody who makes a DIY sound is NOW considered HOMETURF GUYS WITH KNOWLEDGE. If you compare their qualifications to the really good guys abroad who make effects, malayo sila.
P.S. Maraming nanloloko dito sa Pinas, pinoprotektehan ko lang ang mga tao dito na wala pang exposure sa mga iba't ibang mas magandang FX
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Yup and I am also sharing my knowledge. Abyss, you have to understand because of the low standards in this country -- the Philippines -- anybody who makes a DIY sound is NOW considered HOMETURF GUYS WITH KNOWLEDGE. If you compare their qualifications to the really good guys abroad who make effects, malayo sila.
P.S. Maraming nanloloko dito sa Pinas, pinoprotektehan ko lang ang mga tao dito na wala pang exposure sa mga iba't ibang mas magandang FX
well, if you put it that way, it makes it less stingy, i guess, but still, it could have been done in a less -how shall I say-condescending approach, maybe?
i like that you are sharing info so thats not bad but maybe doing a comparison of notes is in order where folks share schematics and discuss the reason of why they are combining certain components together to get a specific tone. I was originally trained as an EE so that was where we'd usual'y start dissecting circuitry, i suspect people still do that even for simpler schematics. I realize that not everyone is an EE guy but some of the pedal builders here Stateside aren't either and many are hobbyists coming from a variety of backgrounds.
That said, I don't have anything against exploring a hobby and doing stuff to spread the love but when you're getting marketed as a guy who knows something when you can't even explain what you are doing -it gets kinda sketchy to defend that.
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FM, given your knowledge and experience on what's out there, have you found any local builder that can deliver or you just haven't tried any of the builders' works? Maybe you can recommend any if you've tried any local build.
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What for? The imported board setup look cooler and sound more awesome.
Just for kicks. It'll be fun. :)
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I have to admit this is quite exciting. On another thread I admitted resigning to my bedroom and being mediocre and now I'm being challenged by this forum's biggest and loudest poser.
Sana matuloy. Sagot ko na talaga yung event, matuloy lang.
Pero I know pikon lang sya dahil di nya kayang i-substantiate yung mga pinagsasabi nya kaya yan naghahamon. Hamon de bola.
Firemodel55: Sa kamay mo bingengot yung Baker mo at lata ang Diezel mo. Yung Gil Yaron mo, sa mga kamay mo, magiging Gil Raon yan! Kahit anong hiyaw hiyaw mo dyan, lahat ng pedals sa thread na 'to masmaganda pa rin ang tone kesa sa tone mo! That's a fact. Disagree? Prove me wrong.
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Quote from: challengeofthegobots on April 14, 2011, 11:57:38 AM
I have to admit this is quite exciting. On another thread I admitted resigning to my bedroom and being mediocre and now I'm being challenged by this forum's biggest and loudest poser.
Sana matuloy. Sagot ko na talaga yung event, matuloy lang.
Pero I know pikon lang sya dahil di nya kayang i-substantiate yung mga pinagsasabi nya kaya yan naghahamon. Hamon de bola.
Firemodel55: Sa kamay mo bingengot yung Baker mo at lata ang Diezel mo. Yung Gil Yaron mo, sa mga kamay mo, magiging Gil Raon yan! Kahit anong hiyaw hiyaw mo dyan, lahat ng pedals sa thread na 'to masmaganda pa rin ang tone kesa sa tone mo! That's a fact. Disagree? Prove me wrong.
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necro qouting.... :?
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Ano na nga pala ang nangyari dun sa January 2012 event? Natuloy ba ung Gobots VS FM55? Haha!
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Ano na nga pala ang nangyari dun sa January 2012 event? Natuloy ba ung Gobots VS FM55? Haha!
From what I have heard, peace has been made from both sides. All is well, no worries. :)
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Puro dada, review, criticism, buhat bangko. Basta may chance na maisingit nya na maganda yung gear nya at pangit yung inyo gagawin nya talaga eh. Nakakasawa makabasa ng mga post ni firemodel55 dito sa PhilMusic. Maglabas ka naman ng ebidensiya mo na maganda nga yung tunog ng pedals, guitar whatever mo oi! Hindi naman kailangan na tumugtog ka ng pyesa talaga dahil understood naman na hindi mo kaya diba..so kahit arpeggiated chords lang. And please...wag mo naman isagot na "video clips don't give my pedals justice BS", kasi kung talaga maganda yan - MAGANDA pa rin tunog nyan kahit sa clips.
Masyado kang self-proclaimed tone-king tinalo mo pa si Andy Timmons. Yan mga custom pedal builders natin, malaki ang contribution sa music scene. Sabihin man natin hindi uber ganda ang gawa nila, at least they provide decent and affordable pedals for the rest of us not jerks este rich kids. How bout you sir? Ano na ba naitulong mo? Your word per word review of gear doesn't count since in reality words don't explain tone. I'm sick of reading your hiyaw, magic and other flowery descriptive BS. If you really are that much of tone-king, show it to us! :razz:
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To Firemodel55: Napakagaling mo namang laitin ang mga local builders sa Pinas. OO bago pa lang sila compared sa mga "botique" builders abroad o mga established na kompanya. Napakarami mo ngang botique na galing abroad pero kung papanu mo tignan ang mga local builder dito ay para kang isang mangmang na taga probinsiya na walang ok na brand o gamit para sa kanya kundi ang mga "Imported". you suck man! go outside and don't waste your time with these botiques of yours. Even if you have all the good stuff that everyone's been gassing about, still, and always, someone is better than you and these botique guys you're adoring and will wipe their @sses just for their "paking botique" pedals and veynteyj amps! Get a Life and Grow up!