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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: rz3znik on September 02, 2006, 11:56:55 AM
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helo cno na po sa inyo naka experience tumalsik ung drumstick habang nag peperform sa harap ng mga tao??????
ako dalawang beses na!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ako lagi sa studio pag tinutugtog ko yung basketcase! One time pa lang ako nakatugtog sa madaming tao at tinugtog namin yun. Thank god hindi tumalsik! :lol:
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hindi buo ang buhay drummer mo pag di ka nalaglagan ng stick. hehehe
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that's why stick bags and holders are investment.
ako nun araw madalas...yun last time kong nahulugan, matagal na iyon. must be my monkey style kung fu technique, nakatulong. :lol:
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Ok lang yun. Ako din sometimes nahuhulugan ng sticks. Even si Vinnie Colaiuta nahulugan ng sticks on one of Sting's concert at recorded pa on video. It happens sometimes. Ang importante ay makahugot ka ng replacement without missing a beat. Dapat may replacement sticks ka na ready at within reach.
May naponood kse ako band before na tumalsik yun stick nun drummer sa harap ng stage while they are playing, ayun wala yata replacement, habang tumutugtog yun band nya bigla syang tumayo at pumunta sa harap at kinuha yun stick nya tapos balik ulit sa pagtugtog.
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kahit si virgil donati nahulugan ng stick. napanood ko
btw. ako naglalagay ako ng 1pair of stick sa bass drum. papatong ko dun. hindi ako humuhugot sa stick bag.
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helo cno na po sa inyo naka experience tumalsik ung drumstick habang nag peperform sa harap ng mga tao??????
ako dalawang beses na!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
natatawa ka pa?
hehehehe... joke lang... ok yan, i mean, you can laugh at yourself and that's a good thing to keep you grounded. :D
examine mo kung ano ang deperensya sa paghawak mo ng sticks?
o kaya naman baka sobrang lakas mo pumalo?
o kaya napapatama ng malakas yung stick sa rims ng drums kaya tumatalsik?
ok lang yan. ilang beses na rin sa akin nangyari niya. learn from our mistakes na lang.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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ur doing good kapag sometimes tumatalsik sticks mo...figure it out! hehe
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grip your sticks properly.
this used to happen to me a lot when i was starting off because i gripped the sticks on its butt/end for more power and dave abbruzzese 'style'. pero it wasnt so effective for me as i keep leavin the sticks behind when it gets down to nailing a difficult or fast fill.
so maybe you ought to grip your sticks one third of the way up from the butt towards the bead. there are lots of online tutorials for this, try looking around if this is your sort of problem.
to add, consciously aim for the centre of the head so that you'll avoid hitting the rims to cause your sticks to fly away. leme if any of these helps. cheers!
:D
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I've been playing drums for half my life, I've been a pro for almost 8 years, and I still drop my sticks at times.
Tumatama sa rim... Tumatalsik... Dumudulas... Usually by accident.
Don't worry... It happens to the best of us. :wink:
In fact, I watched Senyor Mar Dizon last week... He dropped a stick in the middle of his drum solo. Ngiti na lang siya, sabay pulot... Sakay naman yung crowd. At syempre matindi pa rin ang drumming niya. Nasa pagdadala yan. 8)
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si portnoy ang grip niya sa stick ay sa butt talaga hindi nga lumalagpas yung butt sa palad niya eh. buti hindi siya madalas malaglagan dun?
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helo cno na po sa inyo naka experience tumalsik ung drumstick habang nag peperform sa harap ng mga tao??????
ako dalawang beses na!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1 beses pa lang.. hindi kumpleto ang buhay ng mga drummer pag hindi pa nahuhulog ang sticks nila sa mga gigs or jams..
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si portnoy ang grip niya sa stick ay sa butt talaga hindi nga lumalagpas yung butt sa palad niya eh. buti hindi siya madalas malaglagan dun?
Napansin mo rin pala yun? Bat ganun siya humawak?!?! Tapos minsan baliktad pa nga yung stick nya sa kaliwang kamay eh. Siguro para mas buo yung tunog sa snare.
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Hmm... hindi maiiwasan yan, lalo na kung madaling pawisan ang palad mo.
Ako isang pares lang ang dala ko sa gig. Sa kabutihang palad, wala pa naman akong palya sa paghawak sa mga nakaraang buwan.
Yung huling hulog ng stick ko, tumalsik sa likod ng stage. Tumugtog na lang ako ng isang kamay (hehehe olats), tapos kinakausap ko yung isang kaibigan ko na hanapin niya yung stick ko. Binigyan na lang niya ako ng replacement. Kinuha ko na lang yung stick ko pagkatapos ng kanta. :lol:
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natural phenomenon na sa isang drummer yung malaglagan ng stick....ang importante, in the event that you're stick fell / fly....don't forget the golden rule.... "don't stop"....try to keep the beat as much as you can. :lol:
ako may weirdest experience with the sticks was when it "broke" during the last note of the song as i hit the crash cymbal. it happened to me twice. 1st time was at practice, and 2nd time was during a gig :lol:
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si portnoy ang grip niya sa stick ay sa butt talaga hindi nga lumalagpas yung butt sa palad niya eh. buti hindi siya madalas malaglagan dun?
Napansin mo rin pala yun? Bat ganun siya humawak?!?! Tapos minsan baliktad pa nga yung stick nya sa kaliwang kamay eh. Siguro para mas buo yung tunog sa snare.
yup pansin ko yun. ganun talaga siya humawak dati pa.. yung sinasabi mong baliktad humawak.. ang alam ko yung dating stick niya.(mga images ang words time pa yun) ganun talaga ang left na stick niya. walang tip. so straight lang talaga siya. ewan ko kung ano tawag dun. merong ganung style sa lazer eh.
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mas malakas pag sa dulo nakahawak eh
(akin lang yun ah..yun ang pagkakaintindi ko)
sinubukan ko mag rimshot sa tamang grip then sa dulo
mas nalalakasan ako sa dulo eh
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Tama sila lahat!
Ok lang malaglagan ng stick.Basta may spare ka sa tabi mo.
May nangyari na din sa akin na parang ganyan.Worse, it wasn't the stick!...Yung HiHat stand ang na out of balance!! ... Alam mo ba kung sino pa ang tumulong na itayo yung stand ng hats? Man,no other than the 'amazing' Robert Delacruz of Electric Sky Church!!
Dyahe! Sa Dredd pa naman yung gig.
So,para sa mga laging may baon na "Twin pedal" at mahilig mag kalikot sa Hats' stand.Reminder lang,baka maliit lang yung elevated na space kung saan nka set yung drums...Di na bale malaglagan ng stick basta't may spare, HUWAG lang matumba yung Hi-hat Stand!
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nlaglagan nren ako nung nde p ako sanay mag trad grip.. buti nga't natatakpan ako ng mga bandmates ko sa harap kaya hindi gaanong obvious ung pag pulot ko ng sticks..
cheers!
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Is this normal? Or is this a disgrace? Wala lang.
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It is normal, and it happens to the best of us. It still happens to me every once in a while.
Just like what Dave Weckl said in his drum clinic here in Manila a few years ago, it's a good thing because that means you're not gripping your sticks too tightly, which is bad for the hands and for our drumming.
But of course, we must not hold our sticks too loose, to the point of dropping or slipping.
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mistakes happen man..its normal..sometimes the memorable gigs are the blooper ones... :wink:..red horse na!! :evil:
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I used to drop sticks back when I was so active as a church drummer.
Dennis Chambers drops his sticks so many times it's even caught on videos on his clinics.
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i think halos lahat ng drummer nakapagdrop na ng sticks nila even in big gigs...
kaya lagi akong may extra sa gilid ng bass drum for emergency :-D
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i bet we all have our own share of experience when it comes to dropping sticks. last valentine's i dropped one of my sticks 3 times on just one song :oops: the important thing is you should have reserves and never loose the groove, kahit ilan beses mo malaglag yung sticks basta di ka nawawala sa tiyempo at swak ang palo :wink:
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mistakes happen man..its normal..sometimes the memorable gigs are the blooper ones...
i agree..
you learn alot with bloopers in gigs..
ang ang sarap tawanan pag nakalipas na..
hehehehe :-D
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mistakes happen man..its normal..sometimes the memorable gigs are the blooper ones...
i agree..
you learn alot with bloopers in gigs..
ang ang sarap tawanan pag nakalipas na..
hehehehe :-D
+1 :lol:
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Pero parang may feeling of pleasure when you drop your sticks, tapos you maintain the beat and the feel of the song while you're picking a spare up.
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Pero parang may feeling of pleasure when you drop your sticks, tapos you maintain the beat and the feel of the song while you're picking a spare up.
yep! pero sakin pleasure na may halong kaba hehe
OT: nyigs, i've sent you joe's pix na. check yer mail :-D
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hmmm.... it happens to me when i'm so focused on the song na. tipong nawawala na yung isip ko sa mundo natin. hehehe. tapos bigla na lang bumagsak ka ulit sa reality na nahulog na pala sticks mo. :lol: i would recommend having your stick bag hanged in the floor tom for your right hand and another stick holder under the hats for your left hand.
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Dropping sticks is normal. The most important thing is maintaining your composure so you can recover quickly. Put your stick behind you. Parang nakatali sa throne mo. That way pag nahulugan ka ng stick makakadukot ka na para lang dumudukot ng wallet. :wink:
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normal lang un lalo na sa mga medyo naka inom. nangyari na sakin. eh wala pa ako dala extra nun.. kaya ayun tumayo pa ako kasi ang layo ng tinalsikan ng stick. hehe. kaya ngayon lagi na ako may dalang extra naka sabit ung drumstick bag sa gilid. or ung sticks pinapatong ko sa bass drum. :mrgreen:
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I like my sticks under my throne, too. May bag ba na designed to hang on the throne?
OT, sorry :D
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I've dropped and broken my sticks more than a thousand times already during a gig... It's very helpful if you can hang your stick bag on the floor tom. Para at least natural yung pag grab ng extra stick. I also used to keep my backpack standing on my left side. beside the hi-hat stand. An extra stick peeps out of the zipper.
Then I got the Pro-Mark Stick Depot last Christmas...
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h149/pnedin/DSCF0499Small.jpg)
You can clip it to any stand.Mas madali na ngayon kumuha ng extra stick for my left hand.
I also have the Gibraltar 9608VA. It's a throne with velcro attachment at the back. You can hang a towel, drink holder, and sticks too! Pero i don't hang my sticks at the throne kasi hindi natural sa akin yung pagkuha ng extra stick sa likod.
(http://www.massmusic.net/shop/images/19203_th.jpg)
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I like my sticks under my throne, too. May bag ba na designed to hang on the throne?
OT, sorry :D
Yes. The Gregg Bissonette Seat Stick Bag, by Kaces. Look for it here --- http://www.kaces.com/ .
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sir din, kano yung stick depot? meron na ba sa mga audiophiles natin? thanks.
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sir din, kano yung stick depot? meron na ba sa mga audiophiles natin? thanks.
I bought it in Dubai for around 500 pesos. Di ko pa nakikita to sa Audiophile e.
Pabili ka kay Jun_Balaraw. Or maybe Peeves can manufacture one... hehehe
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wehehehe speaking of the :evil:
meron ako made from 2 short pvc pipes tapos yung clamp na ginamit ko galing sa ace hardware. madali lang gawin, dikit mo lang ng epoxy yung pipes sa clamp. it aint pretty but it sure does the job well.
sayang kinuha yung camera. kunan ko sya next time
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sir din, kano yung stick depot? meron na ba sa mga audiophiles natin? thanks.
Or maybe Peeves can manufacture one... hehehe
onga no, acrylic stick depot hehehe! i usually put my sticks on the bass drum, wala kasi ako stick bag or stick depot
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sir din, kano yung stick depot? meron na ba sa mga audiophiles natin? thanks.
Or maybe Peeves can manufacture one... hehehe
onga no, acrylic stick depot hehehe! i usually put my sticks on the bass drum, wala kasi ako stick bag or stick depot
may nakita naman ako sa isa sa mga forums or basta sa isang site na ang ginamit naman nya ay ung lalagyan ng pringles tapos nilagyan nya lang ng clip tapos may foam dun sa ilalim. he he he...
dami pwede gawin sa acrylic ah .. he he he :-)
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tama peeves! gawa ka ng acrylic depot. para ako una customer mo hehehe....
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wenk wenk wenk mahal yung acrylic.
yung blue pvc pipe na lang :-D dali pa gawin. post ko bill of materials at assembly instructions. mas mahal pa nga yung epoxy kesa sa lahat ng materials e
pero OT na to. next week ko gawin pag nahiram ko na ulit yung digicam
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ok, pm mo na lang sa akin.... pwede naman siguro kahit ano kulay ano? hehehehe....
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I-recycle niyo na lang yung mga boga na binili niyo noong new year!
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sir din, kano yung stick depot? meron na ba sa mga audiophiles natin? thanks.
baka meron pa sa RJ...Pro-Mark brand.
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wenk wenk wenk mahal yung acrylic.
yung blue pvc pipe na lang :-D dali pa gawin. post ko bill of materials at assembly instructions. mas mahal pa nga yung epoxy kesa sa lahat ng materials e
pero OT na to. next week ko gawin pag nahiram ko na ulit yung digicam
instead of using epoxy you can drill a hole on the PVC pipe and bolt on a clip. yung malaki parang pang clip board para pwede i rotate yung PVC... Ganun yung sa stick depot...
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k lang mahulugan ng sticks basta may spare... lahat ng tips dito ayus... kanya kanyang style lang sa pag bawi kapag nahulugan... kahit mga pros tao din lang hehehe... kung napanood nyo yung live scenes in ny tska live in budokan ng dt si portnoy natatalsikan din ng sticks astig sya hindi nya ineedit yung mga ganun...