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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: Bammbamm on September 06, 2006, 12:24:15 PM
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Bakit parang walang nag s-sponsor sa mga drummer sa Pinas tulad ng
mga nasa ibang bansa? Gaya ng na meet kong Pinoy drummer dito sa China.. Si Dominic Bautista. Ine-endorse nya ang Sabian cymbals,Vic Firth sticks,Latin Percussion at Ludwig Drums,kaya libre sya sa gamit! Sarap 'no? Tingin ko nga,kung nasa Pinas sya,malabong mangyari yun!.... ewan ko lang.
Meron bang ganito sa Pinas? Saan? Paano makakapag apply ang isang drummer?
Sana kahit man lang yung mga low end na brand eh mag sponsor kapalit ng endorsement.. Madami din namang musikero sa atin di ba?
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Si Vic Mercado, Jun Regalado, and Ernie Severino are endorsers of Zildjian Cymbals. You can check out their profiles in www.zildjian.com. I dunno about other endorsers tho.
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Tumatanggap ng endorsers ang JB music. Magpasa ka ng album niyo sa main branch nila.
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:roll:
Jun Regalado - Premier drums
Bo Razon - Toca percussion
from Audiophile Components, Inc.
Hindi sila nag-apply. Hindi dapat mag apply ang isang drummer para mag endorse ng product. Ang distributor dapat ang kakausap sa isang drummer para mag endorse ng product nila.
Ang mga higher models ng drum product lang dapat ang prino-promote, hindi yung low models.
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Yeah, JB Music has this endorsement program for some of the products that they carry (in particular, for Zildjian, Gretsch & Gibraltar).
We have a number of Pinoy drummers who happen to endorse Zildjian cymbals --- Jun Regalado, Ernie Severino (Side A), Mar Dizon, Mike Alba, Vic Mercado (Bamboo), Wolf Gemora (Wolfgang), Paco Arespacochaga... Though I'm not sure if some of these drummers still endorse Zildjian up to this day.
Mike Alba, Vic Mercado and Mark Escueta (Rivermaya) endorse Gretsch drums.
I was told that Yupangco is working on endorsement programs in the future for the brands that they carry (Pearl, Sabian & Vic Firth in particular). But I don't know about that yet.
I e-mailed Paco Arespacochaga a few years ago, and we talked about product endorsements (in particular, with Zildjian). I kept the e-mail, and here are a few lines from Paco:
Of course, playing the drums and being passionate about it is a given if you want to endorse a product. But the big chunk of it is marketing.
If and when you decide to join the Zildjian family, they will base everything on your marketability, ability and personality.
Marketability - Jun Regalado, Wolf Gemora, Paco Arespacochaga, Ernie Severino, Mar Dizon, Michael Alba... all these names have made names for themselves! It has to be that strong. When you say Wolf Gemora... Wolfgang diba!?! Or Ernie Severino... Side A!?!
Ability - You need this because Zildjian will require you to do clinics to impart your talent to your audience as well as to let audience be aware about Zildjian.
Personality - Likeability, daming fans, magnet (or chick drummer magnet) or anything related! You should have that positive feedback all the time. Dapat, when the people at JB start their research about you and ask industry people about you, they should give a positive feedback about you.
On a personal note, I believe that when you want to endorse a certain product, you should sincerely believe in the product. It's not just about getting free gear and artist exposure. It's great to endorse a product that you actually use or want to use.
It's like, say, in a fastfood tv commercial... You see this celebrity endorser munching on a certain fastfood resto's food. But in reality, he or she doesn't really enjoy eating their food hehehe!
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Aba ser, Kahit pakainin ako ng Sabian o Zildjian cymbals,ok lang! :lol:
Joke lang ha, bro!
....Salamat sa mga nag-reply! Alam ko madaming makikinabang na drummer sa thread na 'to.....yung mga seryosong drummer! :D
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Eh kelangan kumuha na ng endorser ang mga names like Fernando Drums, L.A. Drums, Maya ba yun, Century, Lazer.
O, dba? Kahit mababa fee ng endorsement, at least may nae-endorse ka. hehe.
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:roll:
Hindi sila nag-apply. Hindi dapat mag apply ang isang drummer para mag endorse ng product. Ang distributor dapat ang kakausap sa isang drummer para mag endorse ng product nila.
Ang mga higher models ng drum product lang dapat ang prino-promote, hindi yung low models.
As I know may isang famous brand ng drum instrument ang nagpapasubmit ng application.. d ko marecall, cymbals line ata....
for endorsing low end ones... I think, medyo complicated, sabi nga nung isa dapat u believe in wat u endorse. e pano tutugtog sa malaking gig kung di maganda sounds mo? on the other hand, lahat ng mga sikat n brand, nagsimula s low end, tama ba?
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kanya-kanyang policy lang yang. it's still the distributor's call.
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on the other hand, lahat ng mga sikat n brand, nagsimula s low end, tama ba?
Not all. There are manufacturers who do not make entry-level models. Most of them are boutique companies offering high-quality products. Examples of boutique, custom drum manufacturers are Brady, Magstar and Dunnett drums.
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Eh kelangan kumuha na ng endorser ang mga names like Fernando Drums, L.A. Drums, Maya ba yun, Century, Lazer.
O, dba? Kahit mababa fee ng endorsement, at least may nae-endorse ka. hehe.
Kung sakali halimbawa ang Fernando o Maya ang kumuha ng mag e-endorse.Tingin ko ok lang yun kahit low end, kasi ang target market mo naman eh mga beginner.At para sa akin,yung pag d-drums ang isang mahalagang i-promote,hindi lang yung product. :D
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konti lang endorser na drummer sa pinas.. sana maging endorser ako ng Sabian, Tama, Vic Firth... para libre ako sa gmit.. hehe
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sponsor b un???kadalasan kc gretsch gmit nya eh
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yup,
pati zildjian at gibraltar. thx
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kaya pala eh,hehe
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sarap siguro maging endorser ng pearl,vicfirth at paiste cymbals :lol: sa panaginip lang hehe.
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sir dio ikaw ayaw mo ba? dapat mag endors kana din o kaya si sir bagets or sir jp o kaya ako he he he
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sir dio ikaw ayaw mo ba? dapat mag endors kana din o kaya si sir bagets or sir jp o kaya ako he he he
Well, I'm interested. But I'd rather have somebody approach me, than for me to apply personally.
Tsaka wala pa akong recording credit/s, which I think is a requirement for most endorsement programs. Maybe after our album comes out... 8-)
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sir dio ikaw ayaw mo ba? dapat mag endors kana din o kaya si sir bagets or sir jp o kaya ako he he he
Well, I'm interested. But I'd rather have somebody approach me, than for me to apply personally.
Tsaka wala pa akong recording credit/s, which I think is a requirement for most endorsement programs. Maybe after our album comes out... 8-)
Hindi ba pwedeng i- petition ka naming members ng pinoydrums para maging endorser? We can attest naman na malaking impact mo sa market. Yung iba ngang endorser na, ni hindi man lang ata sumisilip dito sa forum eh. :|.......Well, aside from Dindin na tambay dito, wala na kaming kilalang endorser ng gears na nakakausap.
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Thanks for the kind thought, bro Bammbamm. I sincerely appreciate it. :-)
Personally, I still feel that there's still so much work to do. I still have so much to improve and develop. I think it's also a give-and-take thing. I want to endorse products that I sincerely believe in and really want to use. And I hope that whoever will be endorsing me would sincerely believe in me and support me. It's not only about marketing and getting free stuff. I value the "relationship" side of business.
It's great that a Zildjian artist like bro Dindin Moreno is active here in our Forum. I know Vic Mercado and Mark Escueta are also "signed up" with Pinoydrums, though they are not that active. Some of the "big names" in the local drumming scene may not be active in Pinoydrums, but I'm sure they are artists whom you can meet during their gigs and events, and eventually have a nice drum talk with.
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sir dio ikaw ayaw mo ba? dapat mag endors kana din o kaya si sir bagets or sir jp o kaya ako he he he
Well, I'm interested. But I'd rather have somebody approach me, than for me to apply personally.
Tsaka wala pa akong recording credit/s, which I think is a requirement for most endorsement programs. Maybe after our album comes out... 8-)
ayos mga kelan kaya un sir? bibili talaga ako nun para maka kuha ng konting palo...he he he :-D
pwede ba sir? :-D
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ayos mga kelan kaya un sir? bibili talaga ako nun para maka kuha ng konting palo...he he he :-D
pwede ba sir? :-D
Sure! Why not? 8-)
We'll let you know. I don't want to talk about it. Baka maudlot at ma-delay pa kasi lalo hehe. Salamat!
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Thanks for the kind thought, bro Bammbamm. I sincerely appreciate it. :-)
You're welcome, bro.
Some of the "big names" in the local drumming scene may not be active in Pinoydrums, but I'm sure they are artists whom you can meet during their gigs and events, and eventually have a nice drum talk with.
So parang, secondary lang yung endorsement ng products..It's like, hey come buy some tickets and see our gig then we'll talk about this and that of drums and gears...?
....I dont know, maybe Im expecting too much from endorsers. Maybe I have an ideal endorser, y'know,..someone who you can hang around casually, share everything drums,meet during eb's..etc. ..but not obviously drum talking out endorsement purpose,diba?
..just a piece of my mind. Peace! :-)
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so sir bamm pag ikaw anu gusto indorse? :-D ako siguro sabian and pearl ok na he he he!!!
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opinyon lang mga tsong. sa tingin ko nman hindi porke d tambay dito ung mga ibang endorsers eh d na ok diba? i dont think we should expect them to hang out here or be a member here kasi endorser sila,dont you think thats to much to ask?. maybe they are just to busy playing music or practicing etc. para saken kaya nga may clinic for us to hang or ask questions with those guys. and im sure as dio said pag punta naten sa gig nila makaka usap naten ung mga yun,bout drums etc. i thnk those guys like mar,mike alba etc. work very hard to be very good at their craft. to play music and be a good example to other drummers,and by not posting or hanging out in this forums makes them not an ideal one? just my humble opinion,peace :-D
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diba pag endorser libre lahat gamit? example zildjian.. libre all zildjian gear??
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medyo he he he sarap no? :-D
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edi pag nag eendorse ka na kuya anthony mapipilitan kang mag improve at mag develop :lol:
kaso...hindi ba pag may endorsements ka na, parang pressured ka to improve and make recordings? edi ang hirap nun?
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opinyon lang mga tsong. sa tingin ko nman hindi porke d tambay dito ung mga ibang endorsers eh d na ok diba? i dont think we should expect them to hang out here or be a member here kasi endorser sila,dont you think thats to much to ask?. maybe they are just to busy playing music or practicing etc. para saken kaya nga may clinic for us to hang or ask questions with those guys. and im sure as dio said pag punta naten sa gig nila makaka usap naten ung mga yun,bout drums etc. i thnk those guys like mar,mike alba etc. work very hard to be very good at their craft. to play music and be a good example to other drummers,and by not posting or hanging out in this forums makes them not an ideal one? just my humble opinion,peace :-D
Dont get me wrong here,man. I base my ideals on the sponsors' perspective too.Here's my defense;
Mas ok kung mag endorser ng product ko eh may PR sa kapwa nya drummers. Di ko kelangan ang pop stars kasi hindi album nila ang binebenta ko kundi ung produkto ko.
Kung ako ang may ari ng Zildjian, o Sabian,o kahit anong produkto, mas pipiliin ko yung tao na sa tingin ko ay makakapagbigay ng impormasyon tungkol sa produkto ko sa maraming potential customer. Ilan sa mga paraan nito ay ang pakikisalamuha sa kapwa nya tambolero at ang pagkakaroon ng interes na i-promote ang pag tugtog ng instrumento.Mas gusto ko ang isang tao na hindi na kailangang hagilapin pa sa tugtugan, kundi matatagpuan mo sa monitor ng computer mo. I cant imagine myself going to every endorser's gig just to ask something about the gears.Eh sa totoo lang, hindi naman ako sure kung papansinin ako nung mga yun! :|
By the way, guys, I made this comment out of my eagerness to have someone from our beloved group (Pinoydrums) become a gear endorser. Hindi ko sinulat to para i-criticise yung mga endorsers na hindi nag pa participate dito. Sana lang merong pang endorser na kagaya ni Dindin na nag s-share ng personal views nila about drums and everything dito sa tambayan natin. :roll:
Peace! :-)
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diba pag endorser libre lahat gamit? example zildjian.. libre all zildjian gear??
It depends on the endorsement deal. Some artists get free gear. Some have the privilege of purchasing gear at a generous price.
edi pag nag eendorse ka na kuya anthony mapipilitan kang mag improve at mag develop :lol:
kaso...hindi ba pag may endorsements ka na, parang pressured ka to improve and make recordings? edi ang hirap nun?
Deep down inside, I always push myself to improve and develop, whether I'm an endorser or not. It all depends on your will and motivation. I don't think it's about difficulty and pressure.
Kung ako ang may ari ng Zildjian, o Sabian,o kahit anong produkto, mas pipiliin ko yung tao na sa tingin ko ay makakapagbigay ng impormasyon tungkol sa produkto ko sa maraming potential customer. Ilan sa mga paraan nito ay ang pakikisalamuha sa kapwa nya tambolero at ang pagkakaroon ng interes na i-promote ang pag tugtog ng instrumento.Mas gusto ko ang isang tao na hindi na kailangang hagilapin pa sa tugtugan, kundi matatagpuan mo sa monitor ng computer mo. I cant imagine myself going to every endorser's gig just to ask something about the gears.Eh sa totoo lang, hindi naman ako sure kung papansinin ako nung mga yun! :|
By the way, guys, I made this comment out of my eagerness to have someone from our beloved group (Pinoydrums) become a gear endorser. Hindi ko sinulat to para i-criticise yung mga endorsers na hindi nag pa participate dito. Sana lang merong pang endorser na kagaya ni Dindin na nag s-share ng personal views nila about drums and everything dito sa tambayan natin. :roll:
Peace! :-)
I guess each artist has their own ways of promoting the products that they endorse. For example... With the likes of superstars like Neil Peart or Vinnie Colaiuta or Steve Gadd. These are individuals who I think are not that active on the internet. And I bet it's rare that we're gonna have the opportunity of casually approaching them after their shows and talk about drums and stuff. But they have their ways of promoting the products that they're endorsing (through interviews, the things they say in the product catalogs, their official websites, etc).
I think it also depends on the artist. If an artist wants to promote and talk about his/her gear during the activities they do (online, gigs, during events, etc), that's fine with me. Though I don't think it's really obligatory (except when it's written at the contract).
Every artist's priority is to play great quality music. As a pro, that's what I prioritize. The gear that I use and my personal sound, it will reflect through my playing, especially on live situations. I let my music and my sound do more of the talking. If a fellow drummer or colleague approaches me or sends me an online message and wishes to talk more about gear, then I go ahead and indulge on a drum talk. That's just how I see it.
Just playing devil's advocate here. 8-)
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^^^Yeah, got your point. thanks.
..anyway, it doesn't make a difference naman kung endorser ang isa sa atin dito o hindi.
..but I like to buy more stuff from Jp Buduan because of my personal relationship with him....... :wink:
Peace! :-D
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got your point man :-),maybe you want personal relationship with an endorser or pr so you will buy some products. but i dont think thats their job,isn't that the companies job? these guys inspire us to play music and the drumset,i think thats why these companies got them to endorse. i dont think pearl wants their endorsers to post on their own forum to encourage people to buy stuff,they have reps to do that. my point here is endorsers dont owe us anything,we are not the one who got them to endorse those prdoucts so its not their job to promote it by posting here.they did it by working hard. i think its me who owe them a lot just by inspiring me,and showing me how to play music.and i can learn that by going to their gigis buying their cds etc. hey any endorser can convince me to buy what gears he/she use,but show me how you play it first. can you inspire me? is it musical? its all about the music for me man. peace! great topic by the way :wink:
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Check out these endorsement-related threads...
If you'll Endorse some products, what will it be?
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,26060.0.html
Tama bang pagbasehan ang galing ng drummer depende sa kanyang endorsement?
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,30527.0.html
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Nice input, bro Drumster. Thanks.
@ Ushuaia;
Yes. I prefer to buy stuff from people I know personally, or at least from an endorser who knows and does his obligation (as an endorser) with 'extra' effort....not from people who only showcase their skills during clinics because they have to sell products, or because they're paid to do it.
Its the genuine interest on the product, the market, and the sponsor that makes an endorser credible..at least for me.. We may not have the same opinion about this but Im sure we share a common interest here...product info.
I dont expect any endorser to join this group for mere endorsement purposes. But if they happen to join our group for camaraderie and info sharing, that would be very much appreciated by everyone here, Im sure!
By the way, what's the sense of getting an endorser if they wouldn't exert any extra effort to promote their products?
Nice discussion, bro!
See y'round :wink:
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mga sir i have a friend na aspiring na maging endorser ng cymbals or kahit na anong gamit sa drums ... to be honest magaling talaga sya rnb ang forte nya kaya medyo rare sa pinas konting payo naman kung ano sa tingin nyo ang mga requirements para maging endorser ng isang product
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He must be popular yung ini-idolo ng mga drummers para maraming bumili ng products na inendorse nya.... At galing sa isang sikat na banda.... that's just in my opinion. :-D
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Pm mo si sir Dindin.
Usually kasi parang beauty product rin yan. Kelangan kilala ka ng tao, tapos kung alam nila na ikaw ang gagamit ng product na yun, dudumugin talaga yung product na yun.
It's how it works here in the Phils. anyway....
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payo naman kung ano sa tingin nyo ang mga requirements para maging endorser ng isang product
I just merged your topic with the existing discussion about endorsements. Browse back on the previous pages, and you'll find some answers to your inquiry.
You can also check out these endorsement-related threads...
If you'll Endorse some products, what will it be?
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,26060.0.html
Tama bang pagbasehan ang galing ng drummer depende sa kanyang endorsement?
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,30527.0.html
Pinoy Zildjian endorsers
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,42081.0.html
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Endorsement deals are a symbiotic relationship between the company and the artist. Sometimes you get freebies to represent their product. Tapos kasama na rin dun ang promotion mula sa album, concerts etc, etc. The whole marketing thingy. And if talagang matindi ang kasikatan mo, they'll customize one of their products to your liking. Sarap diba? That's the fruit of years of practice and perseverance to be the best in the industry. Ang iba dyan sasabihin kapag nag-endorse ka na, sell out ka na. Eh san pa nga ba pupunta ang pinaghirapan mo kundi dyan diba? Wala naman tumutugtog na ayaw sumikat. Everybody has a dream to make it big.
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hello,
i would like to know how to get an endorsement? who to go to, what are the steps of getting one...
thanks
niko
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hmm, i think i read something about this sa zildjian website (or was it DW? di ko na maalala).
you have to be prominent in the local music scene and be touring outside the country as well. may standard sila na dapat visible ka sa maraming tao most of the time and may certain level ng CD sales ka dapat na ma-maintain with every album that you/your band/the artists you session for release.
of course there are exceptions kung sobrang lupit na drummer like Eloy Casagrande, Tony Royster, Jr., and Thomas Pridgen. Those three were given endorsements at a very young age. Maybe they were still inexperienced with regards to recording/touring, but they were exceptionally talented.
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yeah..i read the one in zildjian..but i read in modern drummer that they have like a class A endorsee or a class B...hmm im wondering if they can do that locally here...
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check this out
http://www.bermudaschwartz.com/endorsement/index.html
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thanks peeves :-D
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its like the article i read in md. yep i am not looking to get sponsored, but i would like to endorse a product that i believe in..
is there someone here in the Philippines i can send my resume? :-)
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Contact official distributors of the products you are interested in endorsing that are available locally, they should be able to guide you towards the right direction towards formal endorsement application processes. :wink:
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hmm. siguro sa manufacturer or importer nung brand that you believe in. wait din natin si Bro Dindin, maybe he can shed some light as to how his endorsement came about. di ko sure kung nakablik na siya or still out on tour.
good luck bro nikogulo!
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balitaan mo kami bro :-)
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hmm. siguro sa manufacturer or importer nung brand that you believe in. wait din natin si Bro Dindin, maybe he can shed some light as to how his endorsement came about. di ko sure kung nakablik na siya or still out on tour.
Hey...
I'm here na in the Philippines. I just came back from our Canadian tour 2 days ago.
Regarding on how I came about my endorsements, it was JB Music who approached me first. Seeing that my band is "kinda" hi-profile, they thought that I was a perfect candidate to endorse their products. Admittedly, I don't have that enough talent compared to other drummers out there. Therefore, I believe that my band is the main reason I got my endorsements. And it took 10 years and 9 albums after I got my first drum endorsement...
Unless your band is up there with the big players, it would be very hard for you to get noticed. But, if you display "extra-ordinary" talent and mastery of your instrument, I believe somebody would eventually look your way.
It would also not hurt if you get extra friendly to the employees of your favorite music store. Get to know them by their first names, be a regular customer, and be faithful to their brands, etc. And when the big boss asks their opinion on future endorsers, your name might pop out in their lists.
Remember, there are also a lot of talented musicians out there who don't have any kind of endorsements. So the competition would really be tough...
That's my 2 centavos...
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yep... magiging endorser ka kung (a) nasa prominent mainstream band ka, or (b) nasa upper echelon of the top tier of the elite (saan ka pa haha) ka sa pagtugtog, ie mar dizon / jun regalado / mike alba etc
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thanks for the info guys!
its gonna be tough. il try work on it thou. ive read in a Modern Drummer mag that there are different classes of endorsements. so i was wondering if I would pass for class C :-D although it would big help if my band is as popular as Parokya ni Edgar! my band is not yet in the same status of Parokya thou, but were doing alright. were in the NU charts, playing with big bands...hope this works :-)
il ask sir JB...
salamat ulet!
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thanks for the info guys!
its gonna be tough. il try work on it thou. ive read in a Modern Drummer mag that there are different classes of endorsements. so i was wondering if I would pass for class C :-D although it would big help if my band is as popular as Parokya ni Edgar! my band is not yet in the same status of Parokya thou, but were doing alright. were in the NU charts, playing with big bands...hope this works :-)
il ask sir JB...
salamat ulet!
good luck pards!
let us know how it works out!
:-)
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It would also not hurt if you get extra friendly to the employees of your favorite music store. Get to know them by their first names, be a regular customer, and be faithful to their brands, etc. And when the big boss asks their opinion on future endorsers, your name might pop out in their lists.
thats the most important part, faith and trust to the brand...its just sad becuase some just wanted it because of the free stuffs...
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yep! kailangan faithful! ive been playing the same brand for quite sometime now( ore than 10 years)...im thinking of giving this endorsement deal a shot, since my band is kinda out there might as well give it a shot :-)
any tips black panther?
thanks :-)
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yep! kailangan faithful! ive been playing the same brand for quite sometime now( ore than 10 years)...im thinking of giving this endorsement deal a shot, since my band is kinda out there might as well give it a shot :-)
any tips black panther?
thanks :-)
pag endorser ka na nikko hengeng gamit ha hahaha :evil:
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pag endorser ka na nikko hengeng gamit ha hahaha :evil:
hehe! kung matuloy...i dont think il be getting anything..il have to be the one promoting them :) pero kung may extra ako, baka il have it up for bids!hehe
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It involves a lot of things. Just because you are in a high profile band doesn’t mean you get a good chance of getting an endorsement. JB Music looks at a lot of things in a musician. Passion, Commitment, Loyalty and of course a musician for others. Master Dindin was an easy candidate since we know that he grew up with a FERNANDO drums and Zildjian Cymbals. Was a regular customer that showed loyalty to the art and the industry. Of course, it didn’t hurt that he came from that band name Parkya ni Edgar. Welcome back Pareng Din!
Keep on Rocking...Jerico
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It involves a lot of things. Just because you are in a high profile band doesn’t mean you get a good chance of getting an endorsement. JB Music looks at a lot of things in a musician. Passion, Commitment, Loyalty and of course a musician for others. Master Dindin was an easy candidate since we know that he grew up with a FERNANDO drums and Zildjian Cymbals. Was a regular customer that showed loyalty to the art and the industry. Of course, it didn’t hurt that he came from that band name Parkya ni Edgar. Welcome back Pareng Din!
Keep on Rocking...Jerico
cool! thanks! its been quite tough getting thou.....
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for the meantime na hindi pa ka pa "nadidiscover"...practice lang ng practice..
and, mind you...don't forget to be musical. its your contribution to your band's songs that gets more recognition... tapos..
hingi ka na lang ng drum spot sa bonus track ng album niyo. :-D
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yep! practice practice!!!!! ive been watching a lot of drum videos! very inspirational...
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It involves a lot of things. Just because you are in a high profile band doesn’t mean you get a good chance of getting an endorsement. JB Music looks at a lot of things in a musician. Passion, Commitment, Loyalty and of course a musician for others. Master Dindin was an easy candidate since we know that he grew up with a FERNANDO drums and Zildjian Cymbals. Was a regular customer that showed loyalty to the art and the industry. Of course, it didn’t hurt that he came from that band name Parkya ni Edgar. Welcome back Pareng Din!
Keep on Rocking...Jerico
There... that's advice from the Big Boss himself!
Thanks for the WB Jerico! Kelan inuman??? hehehe
Good Luck Niko! Keep up the good work! Who knows? You may reap all the benefits sooner than you think! :wink:
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There... that's advice from the Big Boss himself!
Thanks for the WB Jerico! Kelan inuman??? hehehe
Good Luck Niko! Keep up the good work! Who knows? You may reap all the benefits sooner than you think! :wink:
thanks sir dindin! is jerico the guy i should talk too? my band is playing in dutdutan, di ko lang alam kung sabay tayo we can meet and you can give me advice :-D gusto ko rin panoorin kayo di ko lang sure kung anong day kami sa dutdutan!
cheers,
niko
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There... that's advice from the Big Boss himself!
Thanks for the WB Jerico! Kelan inuman??? hehehe
Good Luck Niko! Keep up the good work! Who knows? You may reap all the benefits sooner than you think! :wink:
uy...napupuno ng mga Atenista itong thread na ito ah..hahaha!
uy ako din! laking Fernando!
pati yun drums sa youth worship hall namin, ako ang kumuha ng responsibilidad at Fernando pa din kinuha ko.
yun Blue..diyan na ako natuto noong 1992...sa home church..
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/toybitz/BitoyatAFC.jpg)
ito, sa mother church..
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/toybitz/kuxandfernando.jpg)
Boss Jerico Fernando, Boss Jesus Fernando...endorse po ako ng Fernando drums?
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If you can find a copy of the August 2007 issue of Modern Drummer, there's an excellent article there about endorsement deals. Plenty of useful info and tips there! The feature is titled, "Getting 'The Deal': The Music Industry's Endorsement Game".
I'll share an excerpt from this feature...
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Source: Modern Drummer, August 2007 issue, page 127.
9 Tips For Success As An Endorsing Artist, by John Wittman*
1. Develop a clear vision of yourself. Know who you are, determine your own sound, and devote yourself to music: the songs, the group, the sound, your students, and your career. Once you're making a living playing music and have something to offer others, then move on to tip number two.
2. Ask yourself why you're seeking an endorsement. What do you bring to the table that would matter? What attributes do you have as a person and an artist that would make you valuable to a company?
3. Do you have an established career in music? (Be realistic.) How long have you been in your current band? How many thousands of recordings were sold last year with your name listed? Are you currently on a major tour? If you're still in school, stay focused on your music and forget about endorsements.
4. A great player is not necessarily a great clinician. It's important to manufacturers that those who call themselves clinicians are indeed artful and effective at this pursuit. Before you ask for clinic support, have 100 clinics under your bet - and make sure that belt is a black belt in the art of teaching.
5. If you want to be an endorsing representative of a company, you must know and respect who you'd be representing before you even approach them. Become an expert of the company whose instrument you play. Know its history, philosophy, current artist roster, and position in the marketplace. Study the roster of artists on the company's website. Do you fit in with that roster?
6. Establish a rapport. Introduce yourself to the company's staff at trade shows - without presenting a package or even mentioning the word "endorsement." We assume, if you're talking to us, that you can play. In an endorsement context, you need to establish yourself as a businessperson. We would know what it would be like to work with you.
7. Prepare a well-crafted promo package. It should include a short cover letter, a bio, a recording, a photo, and the URL to your web site. Take time crafting this package; it creates your first impression. Do some background work to be sure you're sending the package to the correct person, and that you have that person's correct title and the correct spelling of his or her name.
8. Don't expect free instruments or to be paid money in return for playing a company's instrument. Artist discounts will be discussed after your package has generated interest. And remember that companies expect endorsing artists to play their instrumnets exclusively, to mention their companies at educational events, to thank the company for their support, and (when possible) to include the company's name on recordings.
9. Keep focused on the music while paying attention to your sound and to your business skills. Music manufacturers are, above all, interested in being represented by good, professional musicians who truly love the tools of their trade.
*John Wittman is manager of artist relations and education for Yamaha's Band & Orchestral Division.
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If you can find a copy of the August 2007 issue of Modern Drummer, there's an excellent article there about endorsement deals. Plenty of useful info and tips there! The feature is titled, "Getting 'The Deal': The Music Industry's Endorsement Game".
I'll share an excerpt from this feature...
*****
Source: Modern Drummer, August 2007 issue, page 127.
9 Tips For Success As An Endorsing Artist, by John Wittman*
1. Develop a clear vision of yourself. Know who you are, determine your own sound, and devote yourself to music: the songs, the group, the sound, your students, and your career. Once you're making a living playing music and have something to offer others, then move on to tip number two.
2. Ask yourself why you're seeking an endorsement. What do you bring to the table that would matter? What attributes do you have as a person and an artist that would make you valuable to a company?
3. Do you have an established career in music? (Be realistic.) How long have you been in your current band? How many thousands of recordings were sold last year with your name listed? Are you currently on a major tour? If you're still in school, stay focused on your music and forget about endorsements.
4. A great player is not necessarily a great clinician. It's important to manufacturers that those who call themselves clinicians are indeed artful and effective at this pursuit. Before you ask for clinic support, have 100 clinics under your bet - and make sure that belt is a black belt in the art of teaching.
5. If you want to be an endorsing representative of a company, you must know and respect who you'd be representing before you even approach them. Become an expert of the company whose instrument you play. Know its history, philosophy, current artist roster, and position in the marketplace. Study the roster of artists on the company's website. Do you fit in with that roster?
6. Establish a rapport. Introduce yourself to the company's staff at trade shows - without presenting a package or even mentioning the word "endorsement." We assume, if you're talking to us, that you can play. In an endorsement context, you need to establish yourself as a businessperson. We would know what it would be like to work with you.
7. Prepare a well-crafted promo package. It should include a short cover letter, a bio, a recording, a photo, and the URL to your web site. Take time crafting this package; it creates your first impression. Do some background work to be sure you're sending the package to the correct person, and that you have that person's correct title and the correct spelling of his or her name.
8. Don't expect free instruments or to be paid money in return for playing a company's instrument. Artist discounts will be discussed after your package has generated interest. And remember that companies expect endorsing artists to play their instrumnets exclusively, to mention their companies at educational events, to thank the company for their support, and (when possible) to include the company's name on recordings.
9. Keep focused on the music while paying attention to your sound and to your business skills. Music manufacturers are, above all, interested in being represented by good, professional musicians who truly love the tools of their trade.
*John Wittman is manager of artist relations and education for Yamaha's Band & Orchestral Division.
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ive have this issue and ive read it! thats the reason why im interested in getting an endorsement deal! thanks anthony!!! :-)
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^ You're welcome, bro! That's good.
I believe there are some old but still existing endorsement-related discussions here in the forum. Try to search for those. There are some tips shared there as well.
PS... I found the old thread. Here's the link - http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,24343.0.html . I think it's good that we merge these topics.
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^ You're welcome, bro! That's good.
I believe there are some old but still existing endorsement-related discussions here in the forum. Try to search for those. There are some tips shared there as well.
PS... I found the old thread. Here's the link - http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,24343.0.html . I think it's good that we merge these topics.
Thanks Anthony! good job in finding the old thread!
Youre a good candidate to for getting an endorsement bro. I think better chances than me! :-)
I know youre faithful to TAMA and ZILDJIAN..
cheers!
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^ You're welcome, bro Niko! I'm glad the search function is healthy today. :-D
Thanks for the kind words too. Personally, I think I'm not yet "ripe" or prepared enough to be able to score an endorsement. But it's definitely my dream to someday have endorsement deals with top manufacturers. If it's destined to happen someday, then that would be quite an achievement. In the meantime, I'll just continue doing my part as a professional musician/artist.
It's funny that you mentioned two of my favorite brands. So I guess I must be doing something right hehe! :-D Seriously, I am indeed loyal to those brands. I've tried and played various brands of drums and cymbals, but I guess I just found my match on Tama's & Zildjian's products. Their products help me sound and perform better. Their drums and cymbals have somehow become my musical voice; my personal sound.
Hahaha I sounded like I'm fishing for a deal! :lol: But like what I said in my old reply way back, I prefer to just let it happen.
Good luck sa ating lahat! :-)
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^ You're welcome, bro Niko! I'm glad the search function is healthy today. :-D
Thanks for the kind words too. Personally, I think I'm not yet "ripe" or prepared enough to be able to score an endorsement. But it's definitely my dream to someday have endorsement deals with top manufacturers. If it's destined to happen someday, then that would be quite an achievement. In the meantime, I'll just continue doing my part as a professional musician/artist.
It's funny that you mentioned two of my favorite brands. So I guess I must be doing something right hehe! :-D Seriously, I am indeed loyal to those brands. I've tried and played various brands of drums and cymbals, but I guess I just found my match on Tama's & Zildjian's products. Their products help me sound and perform better. Their drums and cymbals have somehow become my musical voice; my personal sound.
Hahaha I sounded like I'm fishing for a deal! :lol: But like what I said in my old reply way back, I prefer to just let it happen.
Good luck sa ating lahat! :-)
salamat Anthony! you could get yours sooner than you think! gusto rin sana ma-expose yung Filipino drummer outside of the Philippines! i think this is possible by doing endorsements too...can i apply for a job that deals with endorsments? like a south east asain representative or Philippine representative for international companies like Zildjian, Sabian, Tama, Pearl, Sonor, Paiste, etc.?
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^ I think having a job for these companies is different from being an official artist/endorser. If you're really that interested, just directly contact the companies you're interested with. Good luck!
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^ I think having a job for these companies is different from being an official artist/endorser. If you're really that interested, just directly contact the companies you're interested with. Good luck!
cool! im thinking if i work in a company like Zildjian i will enjoy it and it would make me a better drummer..just a thought. i better start working on this..