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The Musician Forums => Music Technology & Pro Audio => Topic started by: jofel on June 16, 2012, 05:51:57 PM
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Magandang araw mga Sirs, noob lang po ako and I am just starting up a sound system rental business, at tanong ko lang po kung sapat na ba ang isang 10,000 Watts Nissin Servo Type AVR na magsupply sa lahat ng equipment ko:
1 pc Crown LPS 800 running the highs of the 2 pcs SRX 725 clones when in bi-amp mode
1 pc M Audio MA-1000 running 2 pcs Wharfedale EVP-R12 Speakers
1 pc M Audio MA-2400 running 2 pcs SRX 725 clones
1 pc M Audio MA-3000 running 2 pcs w-boxes with P-Audio 18" (Don't know the exact model)
1 pcKevler PCS-208 Power Conditioner/Sequencer
1 pc Soundcraft MFXI-20 Mixer
1 pc DBX Driverack PA +
1 pc Peavey PV 231EQ
1 pc BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer
1 pc DBX 266x Compressor
8 pcs 10mm (177) LED Par Cans
1 pc Fog Machine (Forgot the specs)
1 pc Laney RB9 Amp Head (300watts) driving the 1 pc Laney RB410 (4x10 cab)
1 pc Laney AH100
1 pc Marshall MG100HFX Amp Head (100watts) driving the 1 pc MG412 (4x12 cab)
1 pc Marshall V65R Amp (65watts)
Any recommendations or suggestions will be highly appreciated. TIA po!
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Hope somebody can help. May event na ako this coming Friday, full band setup, my first ever gig hopefully. Di ko pa na test yung mga gamit ko kase di ko alam paano supplyan ng kuryente yung mga power amps. Takot naman ako ikabit directly to the ordinary wall sockets/outlets sa bahay yung mga amps. :-(
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Hope somebody can help. May event na ako this coming Friday, full band setup, my first ever gig hopefully. Di ko pa na test yung mga gamit ko kase di ko alam paano supplyan ng kuryente yung mga power amps. Takot naman ako ikabit directly to the ordinary wall sockets/outlets sa bahay yung mga amps. :-(
mga master tulungan natin sya!!!ako sensya na hindi ko din alam yan :)
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mga master tulungan natin sya!!!ako sensya na hindi ko din alam yan :)
Hehe! Salamat po sir sa pag up! :)
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kaya ng 10kva AVR yang system mo sir, kailangan lang ikabit sa at least 30 amps power source..
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kaya ng 10kva AVR yang system mo sir, kailangan lang ikabit sa at least 30 amps power source..
Thank you so much sa sagot sir! Anong klase at gauge ng wire kaya ang kailangan kong gamitin to connect the AVR to the power source sir? Ok lang ba yung stranded wire #10?
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Thank you so much sa sagot sir! Anong klase at gauge ng wire kaya ang kailangan kong gamitin to connect the AVR to the power source sir? Ok lang ba yung stranded wire #10?
#10 or 5.5mm for main na royal cable pwede na,,gamit ko kc 6mm royal cable katulad nito,, (http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/amants96/royalcable.jpg)
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Thank you so much sa sagot sir! Anong klase at gauge ng wire kaya ang kailangan kong gamitin to connect the AVR to the power source sir? Ok lang ba yung stranded wire #10?
pwede na ito sir wag lang masyado mahaba..
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#10 or 5.5mm for main na royal cable pwede na,,gamit ko kc 6mm royal cable katulad nito,, (http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/amants96/royalcable.jpg)
Thanks sir! Mukhang matibay talaga yan sir! Saan po ito nabibili at magkano naman po kaya per foot/meter nito?
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pwede na ito sir wag lang masyado mahaba..
Thanks sir! Mga hanggang ilang meters lang po kaya ang maximum length nyan dapat sir?
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Thanks sir! Mukhang matibay talaga yan sir! Saan po ito nabibili at magkano naman po kaya per foot/meter nito?
sorry sir dko alam kung magkano ang per/meter ng 6mm royal cable jan satin,galing korea kc ung royal cable ko hehe dto kc ako sa korea ngaun ang bili ko sa 6mm royal cable ko dto is 57pesos/meter...nka convert na s peso
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sorry sir dko alam kung magkano ang per/meter ng 6mm royal cable jan satin,galing korea kc ung royal cable ko hehe dto kc ako sa korea ngaun ang bili ko sa 6mm royal cable ko dto is 57pesos/meter...nka convert na s peso
Ah! Hehe! Ok po sir. Try ko maghanap nyan sa mga electronic/hardware stores dito sa Bohol. Hehe! Nakabili na kase ako ng #10 stranded wire kanina, gamitin ko na lang for the meantime, sayang naman kase. And thank you sa replies nyo sir at suggestions!
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Ah! Hehe! Ok po sir. Try ko maghanap nyan sa mga electronic/hardware stores dito sa Bohol. Hehe! Nakabili na kase ako ng #10 stranded wire kanina, gamitin ko na lang for the meantime, sayang naman kase. And thank you sa replies nyo sir at suggestions!
bumili ako dati sa hardware saamin sa pangasinan 3.5mm lang royal cable or #12 75peso n per meter how much more pa kaya ung 6mm hmmmm...
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bumili ako dati sa hardware saamin sa pangasinan 3.5mm lang royal cable or #12 75peso n per meter how much more pa kaya ung 6mm hmmmm...
:-o Waa! Baka nasa 150-200 pesos per meter yan! :-(
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#10 or 5.5mm for main na royal cable pwede na,,gamit ko kc 6mm royal cable katulad nito,, (http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/amants96/royalcable.jpg)
5.5 diameter ito sir or 5.5 square mm? baka 5.5 mm diameter ito, halos gauge 3 na
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Mga Ser newbie question lang, yung royal cable na nasa picture ay parang extension cord?
Sound system -> AVR –> royal cable –> power source?
Tama po ba?
Salamat!
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5.5 diameter ito sir or 5.5 square mm? baka 5.5 mm diameter ito, halos gauge 3 na
sir yong nabili ko ay 6mm sq. yong laki mismo ng 2 wire n nsa loob ay 6mm sq.
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yung sa pic, mataba talaga kasi eh, kala ko ganyan din kataba nabili mo sir mants..
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yung sa pic, mataba talaga kasi eh, kala ko ganyan din kataba nabili mo sir mants..
Sir baka #6 yan, masyadong mataba for a 6mm sq.
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Magandang araw mga Sirs, noob lang po ako and I am just starting up a sound system rental business, at tanong ko lang po kung sapat na ba ang isang 10,000 Watts Nissin Servo Type AVR na magsupply sa lahat ng equipment ko:
1 pc Crown LPS 800 running the highs of the 2 pcs SRX 725 clones when in bi-amp mode
1 pc M Audio MA-1000 running 2 pcs Wharfedale EVP-R12 Speakers
1 pc M Audio MA-2400 running 2 pcs SRX 725 clones
1 pc M Audio MA-3000 running 2 pcs w-boxes with P-Audio 18" (Don't know the exact model)
1 pcKevler PCS-208 Power Conditioner/Sequencer
1 pc Soundcraft MFXI-20 Mixer
1 pc DBX Driverack PA +
1 pc Peavey PV 231EQ
1 pc BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer
1 pc DBX 266x Compressor
8 pcs 10mm (177) LED Par Cans
1 pc Fog Machine (Forgot the specs)
1 pc Laney RB9 Amp Head (300watts) driving the 1 pc Laney RB410 (4x10 cab)
1 pc Laney AH100
1 pc Marshall MG100HFX Amp Head (100watts) driving the 1 pc MG412 (4x12 cab)
1 pc Marshall V65R Amp (65watts)
Any recommendations or suggestions will be highly appreciated. TIA po!
Sir, if 10,000 VA yan ang current rating nang AVR mo is around 45 A. Use #8 AWG, if you will use #10 AWG kulang siya for a 45 A.
As to the question kung kaya ba nang AVR mo ang lahat nang gamit mo, try to sum up the wattage rating nang lahat mo gamit then multiply by 2. Dapat within lang siya sa wattage rating nang AVR mo.
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Sir, if 10,000 VA yan ang current rating nang AVR mo is around 45 A. Use #8 AWG, if you will use #10 AWG kulang siya for a 45 A.
As to the question kung kaya ba nang AVR mo ang lahat nang gamit mo, try to sum up the wattage rating nang lahat mo gamit then multiply by 2. Dapat within lang siya sa wattage rating nang AVR mo.
Thank you sa input sir! When I multiply the total wattage, lagpas po ata sya sa 10k. Meaning, kukulangin yung AVR ko?
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Thank you sa input sir! When I multiply the total wattage, lagpas po ata sya sa 10k. Meaning, kukulangin yung AVR ko?
The multiplier (which in this case is 2, applicable only for amplifier) is just an approximate, this is what I read before in this forum and for me is reasonable. If mas mababa ang power rating nang AVR mo kaysa connected load ma stress yong AVR and eventually mag trip ang protection nang AVR.
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yung sa pic, mataba talaga kasi eh, kala ko ganyan din kataba nabili mo sir mants..
no sir sample ko lng yan for a royal cable hehe,,,malaki talaga yan,,,
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The multiplier (which in this case is 2, applicable only for amplifier) is just an approximate, this is what I read before in this forum and for me is reasonable. If mas mababa ang power rating nang AVR mo kaysa connected load ma stress yong AVR and eventually mag trip ang protection nang AVR.
Based po sa wattage table below sir, aling specific wattage ang gagamitin ko sa pag compute? In my case, I'm using an MA-1000, an MA-2400 and an MA-3000. Ilan watts po total sir?
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq224/private_photo_bucket/maudiospecs.jpg)
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Based po sa wattage table below sir, aling specific wattage ang gagamitin ko sa pag compute? In my case, I'm using an MA-1000, an MA-2400 and an MA-3000. Ilan watts po total sir?
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq224/private_photo_bucket/maudiospecs.jpg)
Sir, for me your reference would be kung ano ang set-up mo. If you use stereo then 8 ohms load mo, that woul be your reference. For examaple, MA-1000, ang wattage nya is 400 watts per channel if 8 ohms ang load mo, so ang total is 800 watts then multiple mo pa nang 2.
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Sir, for me your reference would be kung ano ang set-up mo. If you use stereo then 8 ohms load mo, that woul be your reference. For examaple, MA-1000, ang wattage nya is 400 watts per channel if 8 ohms ang load mo, so ang total is 800 watts then multiple mo pa nang 2.
Ganun po ba sir?
Na try kase namin kanina yung sound system using the 1000VA AVR, supplying power to an MA-1000, MA-2400, MA-3000, Driverack PA+, Kevler Power Conditioner, and Peavey PV 321EQ, driving 2 pieces SRX 725 clones, 2 pieces W-BOX with P Audio 18" (di ko alam power.. hehe), and 2 EVP R12s, playing non-stop music (halo-halo ang genre, from hip-hop to metal) from 4:30PM to 7:30 PM, ok naman sya.
So, [(2x400=800) + (2x1500=3000) + (2x1600=3200)] x 2 = 14,000 watts. Lagpas po ng 10,000 watts.
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Ganun po ba sir?
Na try kase namin kanina yung sound system using the 1000VA AVR, supplying power to an MA-1000, MA-2400, MA-3000, Driverack PA+, Kevler Power Conditioner, and Peavey PV 321EQ, driving 2 pieces SRX 725 clones, 2 pieces W-BOX with P Audio 18" (di ko alam power.. hehe), and 2 EVP R12s, playing non-stop music (halo-halo ang genre, from hip-hop to metal) from 4:30PM to 7:30 PM, ok naman sya.
So, [(2x400=800) + (2x1500=3000) + (2x1600=3200)] x 2 = 14,000 watts. Lagpas po ng 10,000 watts.
Yung computation is on the assumption na maximum ang ibinuga nang mga amps at tama ang inilagay na specification sa amps. Assuming tama ang computation, 14,000 watts ang total na load, gagani pa rin ang AVR kasi hindi naman continous yan na 14,000 watts, kaso lang ma stress ang AVR. Mag trip ang AVR pag continous ang overload, depende sa setting nang protection nang AVR.
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Yung computation is on the assumption na maximum ang ibinuga nang mga amps at tama ang inilagay na specification sa amps. Assuming tama ang computation, 14,000 watts ang total na load, gagani pa rin ang AVR kasi hindi naman continous yan na 14,000 watts, kaso lang ma stress ang AVR. Mag trip ang AVR pag continous ang overload, depende sa setting nang protection nang AVR.
So hindi po advisable yang setup ko sir? Ano kaya ibang options ko sir?
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So hindi po advisable yang setup ko sir? Ano kaya ibang options ko sir?
My opinion:
1) Buy another 10KVA AVR
2) Load some of the equipments especially yung mamahalin sa AVR, yong iba hindi na dadaan sa AVR.
3) Load mo lahat sa AVR but be prepared pag nag trip during the event
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So hindi po advisable yang setup ko sir? Ano kaya ibang options ko sir?
Sorry, ibang account nagamit ko, sa friend ko yun, di nya na logout, nag rent sya dito sa shop namin. Hehehe! :idea:
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My opinion:
1) Buy another 10KVA AVR
2) Load some of the equipments especially yung mamahalin sa AVR, yong iba hindi na dadaan sa AVR.
3) Load mo lahat sa AVR but be prepared pag nag trip during the event
Nakakatakot naman yan sir! :-o
Ang mahal pa naman ng AVR na yan, 16k petot. :cry:
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Nakakatakot naman yan sir! :-o
Ang mahal pa naman ng AVR na yan, 16k petot. :cry:
ser anung AVR yan? tska saan mo nabili? salamat!
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question? pag may power conditioner ka ba like american audio pdp-850 pwede na hindi ka dumaan sa avr? thanks
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My opinion:
1) Buy another 10KVA AVR
2) Load some of the equipments especially yung mamahalin sa AVR, yong iba hindi na dadaan sa AVR.
3) Load mo lahat sa AVR but be prepared pag nag trip during the event
+1 Bos. Kung iisa lagi AVR mo, kung nalagay sa alanganin yan, shutdown lahat gamit mo :roll:
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ser anung AVR yan? tska saan mo nabili? salamat!
Nissin 10kVA Servo Type AVR po sir. Sa Harmanson Electronics, Cebu City ko po nabili yun.
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question? pag may power conditioner ka ba like american audio pdp-850 pwede na hindi ka dumaan sa avr? thanks
Di na po sir, parang AVR na rin po ang power conditioner.
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My opinion:
1) Buy another 10KVA AVR
2) Load some of the equipments especially yung mamahalin sa AVR, yong iba hindi na dadaan sa AVR.
3) Load mo lahat sa AVR but be prepared pag nag trip during the event
I think I'll buy na lang siguro one more AVR, pero yung 5KVA na lang siguro, at yung di na kailangan nang AVR, di ko na idadaan sa AVR.
Thanks sa tips sir!
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question? pag may power conditioner ka ba like american audio pdp-850 pwede na hindi ka dumaan sa avr? thanks
Mag kaiba ang dalawa, ang AVR like yung servo type ni regulate niya ang voltage. Example pag nag low voltage or high voltage, ang ilalabas ni AVR yung tamang voltage lang. Si power conditioner naman hindi kaya ang magagawa ni AVR. Ang ginagawa naman ni power conditioner pini filter nya ang voltage para mawala ang mga interference or mga voltage spike, hindi ito kaya ni AVR. Kung ako, pwede na walang power conditioner kaysa walang AVR.
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Mag kaiba ang dalawa, ang AVR like yung servo type ni regulate niya ang voltage. Example pag nag low voltage or high voltage, ang ilalabas ni AVR yung tamang voltage lang. Si power conditioner naman hindi kaya ang magagawa ni AVR. Ang ginagawa naman ni power conditioner pini filter nya ang voltage para mawala ang mga interference or mga voltage spike, hindi ito kaya ni AVR. Kung ako, pwede na walang power conditioner kaysa walang AVR.
Salamat sa correction sir! And sorry for the misinformation.
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question? pag may power conditioner ka ba like american audio pdp-850 pwede na hindi ka dumaan sa avr? thanks
Pang signal processors lang ang power conditioner bos. Pero kung sa power amps at board, mas maigi idaan pa sa AVR :-)
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@tjlimjoco - ahh. salamat sir. dami ko pa pala talagang kailangan malaman para mag start ng ganitong business
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Pang signal processors lang ang power conditioner bos. Pero kung sa power amps at board, mas maigi idaan pa sa AVR :-)
Yung ginawa namin kahapon, idinaan pa namin sa AVR yung power conditioner. Hehehe! :-D
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Yung ginawa namin kahapon, idinaan pa namin sa AVR yung power conditioner. Hehehe! :-D
Ok din naman yan bos :)
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Ok din naman yan bos :)
Thanks sa tip sir!
Hoo! Excited at anxious na ako sa first gig namin bukas! :idea:
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Sir Jofel wag nissin undersize yan ang liit ng 10kv , yaden hanapin mo mas malaki parehas 10kv pero malaki
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Sir Jofel wag nissin undersize yan ang liit ng 10kv , yaden hanapin mo mas malaki parehas 10kv pero malaki
Ano po ibig nyo sabihin maliit ang nissin? Maliit yung physical size nya sir? Sino po supplier ng Yaden? TIA po!
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Ano po ibig nyo sabihin maliit ang nissin? Maliit yung physical size nya sir? Sino po supplier ng Yaden? TIA po!
Inside outside maliit ang nissin kay harmanson mayroon din silang yaden sa manila metrotech mayron din
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Inside outside maliit ang nissin kay harmanson mayroon din silang yaden sa manila metrotech mayron din
Thanks sir!
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Magandang araw mga Sirs, noob lang po ako and I am just starting up a sound system rental business, at tanong ko lang po kung sapat na ba ang isang 10,000 Watts Nissin Servo Type AVR na magsupply sa lahat ng equipment ko:
1 pc Crown LPS 800 running the highs of the 2 pcs SRX 725 clones when in bi-amp mode
1 pc M Audio MA-1000 running 2 pcs Wharfedale EVP-R12 Speakers
1 pc M Audio MA-2400 running 2 pcs SRX 725 clones
1 pc M Audio MA-3000 running 2 pcs w-boxes with P-Audio 18" (Don't know the exact model)
1 pcKevler PCS-208 Power Conditioner/Sequencer
1 pc Soundcraft MFXI-20 Mixer
1 pc DBX Driverack PA +
1 pc Peavey PV 231EQ
1 pc BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer
1 pc DBX 266x Compressor
8 pcs 10mm (177) LED Par Cans
1 pc Fog Machine (Forgot the specs)
1 pc Laney RB9 Amp Head (300watts) driving the 1 pc Laney RB410 (4x10 cab)
1 pc Laney AH100
1 pc Marshall MG100HFX Amp Head (100watts) driving the 1 pc MG412 (4x12 cab)
1 pc Marshall V65R Amp (65watts)
Any recommendations or suggestions will be highly appreciated. TIA po!
Hi sir add ninyo po lahat ng power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo.. For a 10000W or 10KW:- 3333.33 Watts ► safest po ito if all the equipment's power consumption summed up into this
- not exceeding 5000 Watts po para may headroom
Kung hindi naman po lumampas sa 5000 Watts ang total power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo then you must be A OK po!
► Every outlets po sana na sinasaksakan ng equipments is may FUSE PROTECTION
► ISOLATION TRANSFORMER ► especially sa mga equipment na SMPS (switchmode power supply) or yun mga walang power transformer.. Wala pong problema sa voltahe SMPS can handle swinging voltages, yun swinging current dun sila madalas nadadale.. pag saksak mo ng plug nila sa outlet kumikislap agad, lakas ng IN-RUSH CURRENT na ini-introduce nila..
► Kung current consumption (A or mA) ang naka-label instead of Watts, you can do this simple equation ► W = Volts (V) x Ampere (A)
► I am guessing that 10KW has a large industrial type line conditioner.. If not try mo sir humanap po na kaya ng 10KW or higher..
-Emil
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Hi sir add ninyo po lahat ng power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo.. For a 10000W or 10KW:- 3333.33 Watts ► safest po ito if all the equipment's power consumption summed up into this
- not exceeding 5000 Watts po para may headroom
Kung hindi naman po lumampas sa 5000 Watts ang total power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo then you must be A OK po!
► Every outlets po sana na sinasaksakan ng equipments is may FUSE PROTECTION
► ISOLATION TRANSFORMER ► especially sa mga equipment na SMPS (switchmode power supply) or yun mga walang power transformer.. Wala pong problema sa voltahe SMPS can handle swinging voltages, yun swinging current dun sila madalas nadadale.. pag saksak mo ng plug nila sa outlet kumikislap agad, lakas ng IN-RUSH CURRENT na ini-introduce nila..
► Kung current consumption (A or mA) ang naka-label instead of Watts, you can do this simple equation ► W = Volts (V) x Ampere (A)
► I am guessing that 10KW has a large industrial type line conditioner.. If not try mo sir humanap po na kaya ng 10KW or higher..
-Emil
Thank you so much for the tips sir! Andami kong bagong natutunan though medyo nosebleed ako sa ibang terms. Hehe! Marami pa rin pala akong dapat matutunan.
Thank sir Emil for sharing your knowledge unselfishly!
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Hi sir add ninyo po lahat ng power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo.. For a 10000W or 10KW:- 3333.33 Watts ► safest po ito if all the equipment's power consumption summed up into this
- not exceeding 5000 Watts po para may headroom
Kung hindi naman po lumampas sa 5000 Watts ang total power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo then you must be A OK po!
► Every outlets po sana na sinasaksakan ng equipments is may FUSE PROTECTION
► ISOLATION TRANSFORMER ► especially sa mga equipment na SMPS (switchmode power supply) or yun mga walang power transformer.. Wala pong problema sa voltahe SMPS can handle swinging voltages, yun swinging current dun sila madalas nadadale.. pag saksak mo ng plug nila sa outlet kumikislap agad, lakas ng IN-RUSH CURRENT na ini-introduce nila..
► Kung current consumption (A or mA) ang naka-label instead of Watts, you can do this simple equation ► W = Volts (V) x Ampere (A)
► I am guessing that 10KW has a large industrial type line conditioner.. If not try mo sir humanap po na kaya ng 10KW or higher..
-Emil
Sir Emil would you advice the use of a surge protector on equipments with SMPS? TIA for the answer :)
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Sir Emil would you advice the use of a surge protector on equipments with SMPS? TIA for the answer :)
Hi sir.. yes po and i believe that's what the last line of my post was all about po... Ü
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Sir jofel, if your budget can afford to do this para safe ka: based from my setup, i use one 5000VA servo type AVR for my microtech crown 2400 only for my subs, one 3000VA servo type AVR for my LPS 2500 for my mids and one 3000VA servo type AVR for my EP1500 for my highs including the two 250W moving head. tapos one 500VA servo type AVR for my crossover, EQ, ultramizer and my mixing console. one gauge #12 royal cord (30m long) for my sound system and one separate gauge #10 royal cord (about 35m long) for the lights with the FF load: Dimmer pack with 8-PAR 64bulbs, 6pcs 3W PAR led, 14pcs 1W PAR led and other accessories like mushroom, laser lights, bubble machines and smoke machine. Yung mga monitor amps ng guitars and keyboard wala nang AVR diretso sa power supply ng sound system. I use 60amps circuit breaker for the lights and 40amp ckt breaker naman sa sound system. So far OK naman. it is better if you can further use gauge #8, #6 or even thicker royal cord for your lights.
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Sir jofel, if your budget can afford to do this para safe ka: based from my setup, i use one 5000VA servo type AVR for my microtech crown 2400 only for my subs, one 3000VA servo type AVR for my LPS 2500 for my mids and one 3000VA servo type AVR for my EP1500 for my highs including the two 250W moving head. tapos one 500VA servo type AVR for my crossover, EQ, ultramizer and my mixing console. one gauge #12 royal cord (30m long) for my sound system and one separate gauge #10 royal cord (about 35m long) for the lights with the FF load: Dimmer pack with 8-PAR 64bulbs, 6pcs 3W PAR led, 14pcs 1W PAR led and other accessories like mushroom, laser lights, bubble machines and smoke machine. Yung mga monitor amps ng guitars and keyboard wala nang AVR diretso sa power supply ng sound system. I use 60amps circuit breaker for the lights and 40amp ckt breaker naman sa sound system. So far OK naman. it is better if you can further use gauge #8, #6 or even thicker royal cord for your lights.
Thank you sa napaka detalyadong tips nyo sir! Wow! Kelangan ko pa palang maglabas pa ng malaking pera. :-o
Pero one more question sir. Bakit po mas malaki po amperahe ng breaker ng para sa lights at tsaka yung kapal ng royal cord para nito kaysa para dun sa sound system?
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sir mas malaki din kasi ang power consumption ng mga lights especially yung mga par 64 sir compared dun sa sound system.
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gagastos ka sa electrical nyan. Mag lalagay kapa ng wall socket dyan mga piraso. Yong national or generic pwede yon pero damihan mo mga 5-10 pieces para hiwalay hiwalay ang saksak wag sa iisang saksakan lahat.
okay lang dahil 1 time lang naman at para yan sa equipment mo. Lahat ng nag soundsystem nag daan sa ganyan karamihan.
Para hindi mapalaki gastos mo marami ako ditong wall socket bigay ko nalang sa iyo ng masmababa kasya sa hardware... dami ito galing sa soundsystem namin. meron din switch pag need mo para sa mga lights mo at iba pang on/off switch box mo(supply).
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Inside outside maliit ang nissin kay harmanson mayroon din silang yaden sa manila metrotech mayron din
mr. live di ba brand mo yun yaden . sinisiraan mo yun nissin brand made in cebu yan . bakit minamarket mo na sa cebu , akala ko taga ilo-ilo ka.
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Sir Jofel wag nissin undersize yan ang liit ng 10kv , yaden hanapin mo mas malaki parehas 10kv pero malaki
mr. live buking ka na nagpapanggap ka pa taga ilo-ilo. lolokohin mo pa ang mga taga cebu, yaden brand avr made by audiomaster(mr. ultimate) walang gumagamit yan dito sa manila sirain kasi.
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Hahaha nabili ko ang yaden sa masterfix you can ask miss erika i have many frnd in cebu but no in this business ang hirap sayo pag may recoment kami promoters na para kang [pichapie] putak ka nang putak dyan ibigay mo address mo pupuntahan kita para makilala mo ako , ang site na eto para naturo sa mga newbies ikaw puro paninira ng iba akala mo kung gano ka galing producto mo cheap lang yan mas ok ba yan sa orig? Puro ka lang post wala ka naman mapakita
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sir ung par leds nio at smoke kahit wag nio na i avr :) . . anyway sir ask ko lng magkano po bili nio sa RB9 and RB410 cab ng laney? tnx . . balak ko rin kuha nyan e
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Hi sir add ninyo po lahat ng power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo.. For a 10000W or 10KW:- 3333.33 Watts ► safest po ito if all the equipment's power consumption summed up into this
- not exceeding 5000 Watts po para may headroom
Kung hindi naman po lumampas sa 5000 Watts ang total power consumption (W=watts) ng lahat ng equipment ninyo then you must be A OK po!
► Every outlets po sana na sinasaksakan ng equipments is may FUSE PROTECTION
► ISOLATION TRANSFORMER ► especially sa mga equipment na SMPS (switchmode power supply) or yun mga walang power transformer.. Wala pong problema sa voltahe SMPS can handle swinging voltages, yun swinging current dun sila madalas nadadale.. pag saksak mo ng plug nila sa outlet kumikislap agad, lakas ng IN-RUSH CURRENT na ini-introduce nila..
► Kung current consumption (A or mA) ang naka-label instead of Watts, you can do this simple equation ► W = Volts (V) x Ampere (A)
► I am guessing that 10KW has a large industrial type line conditioner.. If not try mo sir humanap po na kaya ng 10KW or higher..
-Emil
good day! san po nakakabili ng isolation transformer?
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Magandang araw mga Sirs, noob lang po ako and I am just starting up a sound system rental business, at tanong ko lang po kung sapat na ba ang isang 10,000 Watts Nissin Servo Type AVR na magsupply sa lahat ng equipment ko:
1 pc Crown LPS 800 running the highs of the 2 pcs SRX 725 clones when in bi-amp mode
1 pc M Audio MA-1000 running 2 pcs Wharfedale EVP-R12 Speakers
1 pc M Audio MA-2400 running 2 pcs SRX 725 clones
1 pc M Audio MA-3000 running 2 pcs w-boxes with P-Audio 18" (Don't know the exact model)
1 pcKevler PCS-208 Power Conditioner/Sequencer
1 pc Soundcraft MFXI-20 Mixer
1 pc DBX Driverack PA +
1 pc Peavey PV 231EQ
1 pc BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer
1 pc DBX 266x Compressor
8 pcs 10mm (177) LED Par Cans
1 pc Fog Machine (Forgot the specs)
1 pc Laney RB9 Amp Head (300watts) driving the 1 pc Laney RB410 (4x10 cab)
1 pc Laney AH100
1 pc Marshall MG100HFX Amp Head (100watts) driving the 1 pc MG412 (4x12 cab)
1 pc Marshall V65R Amp (65watts)
Any recommendations or suggestions will be highly appreciated. TIA po!
dont rely on just single 10kva power regulator, split them up and distribute them, its better to use 2 unit 5kva power regulator than single 10kva regulator....distribute the load almost equally, power amps and processor can combine in one supply, other instrument amps will be on the other power supply. for the lighting units no need to put them on a PS, at least run them w/ a line breaker that can handle the load.
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Up! Post kayo ng sample pics mga sir!
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Tap from main >> circuit breaker >> AVR >> equipments. Tama ba mga sir?
Problema ko ngayon yung mga power surge!! :eek: