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The Music Forums => Free-for-all Artists forum => Topic started by: musicianurse28 on June 06, 2014, 02:07:46 PM
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Which do you prefer?
Being a session musician or having your own band. Being a bandleader or soloist?
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having an own band syempre, pero ayoko ng leader, daming problema sa position na yun eh hehehe
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magiging session artist ka lang naman kung "de calibre" ka.
pwede ka magka banda kahit di ka magaling, ngayon lang diba andaming may banda na di naman ganun kahusay PERO MAY BANDA.
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Maging solo artist! Haha! Session e dapat marunong ka sumunod kahit di mo trip yung gusto ng artist, having a band has some freedom to it I guess unless lumaki ulo ng vocalist mo at nag solo artist na,hehe
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magiging session artist ka lang naman kung "de calibre" ka.
pwede ka magka banda kahit di ka magaling, ngayon lang diba andaming may banda na di naman ganun kahusay PERO MAY BANDA.
I've seen some musicians na mga marurunong at edukado sa musika, example nyan yung mga nag college of music. Marurunong sila, mahusay rin, at siprado yung mga kailangan gawin. Yun ba yung mga "De Calibre"? May iba naman din na hindi nag aral pero mas mahusay pa sa nag aral. "De Calibre" rin yon.. May iba na hindi naman sobrang galing gaya ng mga hinahangaan naten, sadyang marunong at may alam lang talaga kung pano sumabay sa banda at magpatugtog ng instrumento..
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May iba na hindi naman sobrang galing gaya ng mga hinahangaan naten, sadyang marunong at may alam lang talaga kung pano sumabay sa banda at magpatugtog ng instrumento..
wido daw tawag dun. magaling sumabay kahit san mo ilagay.
(tama ba spelling?) narinig ko yan sa tito ko na trumpet player ng philharmonic orchestra kaso ngayon hnd na kasi 65 years old na sya
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I've seen some musicians na mga marurunong at edukado sa musika, example nyan yung mga nag college of music. Marurunong sila, mahusay rin, at siprado yung mga kailangan gawin. Yun ba yung mga "De Calibre"? May iba naman din na hindi nag aral pero mas mahusay pa sa nag aral. "De Calibre" rin yon.. May iba na hindi naman sobrang galing gaya ng mga hinahangaan naten, sadyang marunong at may alam lang talaga kung pano sumabay sa banda at magpatugtog ng instrumento..
tama naman pagkakaintindi mo ng de calibre
wido daw tawag dun. magaling sumabay kahit san mo ilagay.
(tama ba spelling?) narinig ko yan sa tito ko na trumpet player ng philharmonic orchestra kaso ngayon hnd na kasi 65 years old na sya
the word is OIDO :) --> played by ear -->madaming magaling na OIDO and "de calibre"
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session musician ang gusto ko - you dont have to deal with band drama, you do not have to talk to band members you dont like (let the band leader handle that) and the best part? you get paid!
yun nga lang, my skills only allow me to be a band leader. i even have a hard time joining bands. one look at my pedal board and they are ready to kick me out lol
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yon salamat sa correction sir! :-D
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Sessions player ako, pero di naman ako magaling... :oops:
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Being a session musician is a dream for me.
Session players somehow retains the love for music in the long run compared to people who sticks with a band, I don't know if its because of the associated drama with bands that will make a person hate on music making or its because of the boxed concept of being in a band (kahit gaano pa kaexperimental yung music nyo somehow you'll have to make the same type of music to stick with and be known for) unlike sessions players na sobrang broad nang playing field as long as skills permits(e.x. Nuno on Rihanna's backing band) and just play with delight without being labeled a sell-out.
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Parang mas gusto ko maging session musician kasi pag nilapitan ka ng mga banda o ng industry, may air ka ng expertise eh, na kahit anong ibato nila sayo, tiwala silang kaya mo.
Pero syempre pang magagaling lang talaga yun, eh di naman ako magaling, so air guitar muna. :razz:
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paano pala nako-kontak ng mga artists yung mga session musician? i mean, may manager/agent din ba sila then lalapitan nito yung mga recording artists? o calling card technique? o in house na sila sa mga recording studios?
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paano pala nako-kontak ng mga artists yung mga session musician? i mean, may manager/agent din ba sila then lalapitan nito yung mga recording artists? o calling card technique? o in house na sila sa mga recording studios?
Have a large network of musician friends? That's how mine started, I think...
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paano pala nako-kontak ng mga artists yung mga session musician? i mean, may manager/agent din ba sila then lalapitan nito yung mga recording artists? o calling card technique? o in house na sila sa mga recording studios?
1.referral
sa referral palang namomobilize na reputation na isang session musician, lalo na kung fully decorated ang CV nya
--> e.g. product endorser, clinician, product specialist, member of a great band (not necessarily mainstream)
si Michael alba, ilang international artists na ang sinamahan nya sa entablado, percussionist or drummer.
napanood ko sya dati sa concert ni kevin lettau sa araneta
mike villegas, nakikita ko din sya nag sesession kina aiza and cookie chua etc.
2. network
kung madalas ka mag gig, dami ka nakakasalimuhang bands, nakikilala nila karakas mo at talent, eventually lalapitan ka ng mga yan to play or to fill in lalo na kung
pareho kayo ng pondohan.
3. ads
kung may nababasa ka sa mga social networking sites --> saying : hi guitarist here available every Thursdays and Saturdays, then nakasama yung link ng mga demo nya.
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session musician, having your own band and being the leader is a big pain in the ass.. <_<
pero may mga advantages rin having own band and pagiging leader...kaylangan lang talaga lahat dedicated ndi lang ung leader..
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Masarap magsession musician, bukod sa you get to play different styles, you get to meet people as well. plus the money, so mas okay talaga. tska mejo it confirms that you are good with what you do. :)
pero iba talaga if you have your own band. hahaha
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ok thanks...
here's something for aspiring session musicians taken from the other thread...
http://www.stevelukather.com/news-articles/2010/05/steve-lukather-session-stories.aspx
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session musician, having your own band and being the leader is a big pain in the ass.. <_<
pero may mga advantages rin having own band and pagiging leader...kaylangan lang talaga lahat dedicated ndi lang ung leader..
Let's hear your story sir.. Share na yan :wave:
Masarap magsession musician, bukod sa you get to play different styles, you get to meet people as well. plus the money, so mas okay talaga. tska mejo it confirms that you are good with what you do. :)
pero iba talaga if you have your own band. hahaha
You got it right paps.. Plus you get to advertise yourself pa, in that way simpleng raket na rin eh to earn extra income in music industry.. As I always say, "Naiinggit ako sa mga musiko at atleta. Musicians play music at the same time they are earning for a living. Same as athletes lalo na NBA Players, playing and earning as well." Sarap lang. :drool:
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paano pala nako-kontak ng mga artists yung mga session musician? i mean, may manager/agent din ba sila then lalapitan nito yung mga recording artists? o calling card technique? o in house na sila sa mga recording studios?
Tama sagot ni sir Fretboard in your inquiry. Dagdag ko lang rin, palagay ko wala naman silang manager at agent na humahawak sa kanila. Kung meron man, baka iilan lang sila.. Hindi rin sila yung lalapit sa recording artist para sumession, I think sila yung hinahanap at kinukuha ng mga recording artist. May iba na dahil kakilala kaya okay na, may iba naman na dumadaan pa ng auditions. Just like yung mga bands pag nag quit na yung isang member, hanap sila kapalit. In house sila ng recording studios? Baka sila ang may ari ng recording studio! :)
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1. ok naman maging session artist, pero di ba compromised ang artistic freedom mo pag ganun?
2. ok naman magkabanda --> ano ba goal ng banda? may common grounds ba kayo? hobby lang? gusto sumikat? gusto gumawa ng obra? self expression? artistic explosion?
3. ok naman maging solo artist --> tamang noel cabangon na di kailangan ng session musician sa katabi? or tamang joe satriani na may back up band? sarah Geronimo? etc etc etc.
considered bang solo artists mga buskers?
so BTT:
mas ok sakin ang may sariling banda :)
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1. ok naman maging session artist, pero di ba compromised ang artistic freedom mo pag ganun?
2. ok naman magkabanda --> ano ba goal ng banda? may common grounds ba kayo? hobby lang? gusto sumikat? gusto gumawa ng obra? self expression? artistic explosion?
3. ok naman maging solo artist --> tamang noel cabangon na di kailangan ng session musician sa katabi? or tamang joe satriani na may back up band? sarah Geronimo? etc etc etc.
considered bang solo artists mga buskers?
so BTT:
mas ok sakin ang may sariling banda :)
Sagot sa No. 1
Yes siguro compromised talaga kung mostly covered songs yung mga pinapatugtog ng MD sa sessionist. May iba naman na sumessession, yet yung genre na pinapatugtog is yung preferred genre ng sessionist, yun! Dun sila nagkakasundo, dun niya maa-apply yung playing skills niya artistically and without compromise. Lalo na siguro pag composition pa yun ng sesessionan tas nagkasundo pa sila sa type of genre na tutugtugin.
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^ di ba collaboration na yun? because you're doing something WITH the artist and not FOR the artist.
kasama ka naglatag ng overall outcome.
pag session kasi, meron nang pre-composed materials, tutugtugin nalang.
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^ di ba collaboration na yun? because you're doing something WITH the artist and not FOR the artist.
kasama ka naglatag ng overall outcome.
pag session kasi, meron nang pre-composed materials, tutugtugin nalang.
Yup collaboration rin. Pero di rin ba still considered as sessionist yun kung solo artist yung artist na tutugtugan? Sessionist na gumawa ng collaboration with the artist. Let's say for example sina Gary V., Kyla, and the likes. Solo artist sila at hindi sila nagdadala ng isang pangalan ng grupo ng banda. Medyo hirap ako mag explain pero sana nakuha mo point ko sir. :)
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sure kuha ko point mo :)
pero yung kagaya nina Gary V. , kyla and the likes, pre-composed na yung mga yun sir, kakantahin nalang nila.
kaya sikat ang mga kumpositor gaya nina vehnee saturno, ogie alcasid, ryan cayabyab etc.
hindi lahat ng kinanta ni gary v. e composed nya, ganun din sa kyla etc.
merong mga composers na kumuha sa kanila to sing their obra or they asked the composers to write something for them.
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parehas kayong may point, sir fretboard and sir musiciannurse28, pero i think mas pinpoint yung kay sir fretboard. usually pag sinabing session artist ka, you play what is required and you don't contribute to the construction of the song. collaboration na yun pag ganun eh. :) dos sentimos
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sure kuha ko point mo :)
pero yung kagaya nina Gary V. , kyla and the likes, pre-composed na yung mga yun sir, kakantahin nalang nila.
kaya sikat ang mga kumpositor gaya nina vehnee saturno, ogie alcasid, ryan cayabyab etc.
hindi lahat ng kinanta ni gary v. e composed nya, ganun din sa kyla etc.
merong mga composers na kumuha sa kanila to sing their obra or they asked the composers to write something for them.
Yup yup! Mismo ka dyan sir :) Yung mga pre-composed na yan bale tinugtog na ng mga sessionist with its composer(collaboration) like sir Vehnee then may kukunin na silang artist na kakanta non tama? Just like what he did kina Sarah G and other artists pa.
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parehas kayong may point, sir fretboard and sir musiciannurse28, pero i think mas pinpoint yung kay sir fretboard. usually pag sinabing session artist ka, you play what is required and you don't contribute to the construction of the song. collaboration na yun pag ganun eh. :) dos sentimos
Yup. There's a big difference. :) Pero di ba doing a collaboration with the composer, if you're a sessionist naman talaga, sessionist ka pa rin ni mr. composer? The two just did an obra together. Correct me if I'm wrong sir fretboard.
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kuha ko yung point mo --> na tetechnical lang tayo sa terms :)
pag collaboration kasi sir shared yung work dun, meaning may freedom kang latagan yung melody na ginawa nya para maging harmony.
pag sessionist, meron nang nakasulat, tutugtugin nalang
therefore, sessionist ka ni composer KUNG pinapatugtog nya sayo yung sinulat na nya para sayo.
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kuha ko yung point mo --> na tetechnical lang tayo sa terms :)
pag collaboration kasi sir shared yung work dun, meaning may freedom kang latagan yung melody na ginawa nya para maging harmony.
pag sessionist, meron nang nakasulat, tutugtugin nalang
therefore, sessionist ka ni composer KUNG pinapatugtog nya sayo yung sinulat na nya para sayo.
Ayun natumbok mo sir! Ayan mas malinaw na saten pareho at sa lahat ng sumubaybay neto :) Dagdag knowledge ito. ^-^
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Let's hear your story sir.. Share na yan :wave:
having bandmates for an original band...
hindi naman kami madalas mag practice...understandable un, kasi they have day jobs at ako naman pumapasok sa college...
pero ung mas marami time nung kabanda mo sa ibang extra curricular than music like kunyari our vocalist...i gave her an instrumental track like 2 to 3 months ago,
tapos 4 months na hindi pa rin nalalagyan ng lyrics, :eek:
tapos makikita mo sa facebook nya kung ano ano ang pinagagawa...
i mean damn kung musician ka talaga, dapat mas madami kang time sa music..
I knew mahirap mag compose it really takes time, pero may times na isang oras lang nkakagawa ako ng kanta,
minsan inaabot ng 3 to 4 days or a week, pero ganun kahaba?.. :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Having my own band then be the leader of it :)
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Pwede namang pag sabayin ah? You have your own band at the same time nag session ka sa iba pag wala kayong schedule ng togs.
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i like having my own band. tried it once before, it was a blast.
you write your song, you perform your song. panalo.
but i like doing session work for others. no drama, and i feel like my skills get pushed more (especially if the band's instrumentalists are pretty good)