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The Musician Forums => Guitar Central => Topic started by: hardcorehope on July 06, 2014, 12:55:50 AM
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hi sir/maam.
not a guitarist, but throwing underground shows on our scene, batangas city.
tatanong ko lang po kung may maiisuggest kayo na murang guitar amp and bass guit amp.
, na pedeng gamitin sa mga gigs. maliit lang naman yung venue at pedeng i line in sa mixers, so ndi kelangan na sobra laki yung amp.
possible budget ay 4-6 k per amplifier.
another thing is, ok lang po ba yung assemble or custom made na amp, na ginamitan ng mga speakers like crown or targa,
if ok saan po kaya posibleng magpagawa or umorder nun.
salamat po. :)
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hi sir/maam.
not a guitarist, but throwing underground shows on our scene, batangas city.
tatanong ko lang po kung may maiisuggest kayo na murang guitar amp and bass guit amp.
, na pedeng gamitin sa mga gigs. maliit lang naman yung venue at pedeng i line in sa mixers, so ndi kelangan na sobra laki yung amp.
possible budget ay 4-6 k per amplifier.
another thing is, ok lang po ba yung assemble or custom made na amp, na ginamitan ng mga speakers like crown or targa,
if ok saan po kaya posibleng magpagawa or umorder nun.
salamat po. :)
tol kelan to?
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Stagg ga60
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Medyo biased siguro ako dahil kaibigan ko ang mga tiga-Lazer. Pero you can check out their small amps. Na-test ko yung mga Cort amps nila and ok naman.
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Stagg ga60
+1
my band's vocalist plays guitar occasionally and uses this amp. reliable and cheap. it's around 6k.
you can get it from The Music Source. (Ali Mall cubao, Festival mall alabang or Marquee Mall, Pampanga)
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Stagg is a decent amp for the price.
Though if it's me, I'll increase my budget a bit and get myself a used Peavey Bandit 112 instead.
In my experience, mas ok sakin yung Peavey kesa sa Stagg sa mga gigs.
@ qroon - durability-wise kamusta naman yung amps ng Cort?
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@ qroon - durability-wise kamusta naman yung amps ng Cort?
Inuupuan ko yung iba dun (100kg guy) and oks pa naman, he he he. Kidding aside, tiningnan ko ang construction at mukhang ok naman. Kaya gusto yung Cort amps ay parang neutral sounding pag clean (both the bass and guitar amps). I tested them na 0 lahat ang equalization.
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Stagg ga60 tsaka yung boston ga-60 din hehe mas maganda din tumingin ka sa raon ung mga guitar amps dun na 60 watts minsan matatawaran mo ng hanggang
4.5k at maganda naman yung quality at tumatagal .
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yun salamat po sir! you can check our facebook bla bla, search hardcore hope to check gigs or underground related bulls***t
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Good choice yung stagg. Pero same ng sabi ng iba, kung kaya mo ma stretch ng onti yung budget, ang ganda ng peavey bandit.
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Inuupuan ko yung iba dun (100kg guy) and oks pa naman, he he he. Kidding aside, tiningnan ko ang construction at mukhang ok naman. Kaya gusto yung Cort amps ay parang neutral sounding pag clean (both the bass and guitar amps). I tested them na 0 lahat ang equalization.
Tangkad mo siguro sir. :lol:
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How about Laney LX series?
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For your budget, I'll go for the STAGG GAR60. really impressed with this amp for the price. takes in pedals very well, nice cleans and EQ + Reverb are not bad. plus its built like it will last for a long time.
pero tama sila. kung kaya, peavey bandit 112. yan lang yung mga solidstates na feel ko gig worthy. hahahaha most of the SS marshalls i've tried are just... meh. tapos mahap pa :|
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How about Laney LX series?
Uy, maganda buga nyan... magkano kaya?
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question ok lang ba sa small gigs/small clubs ang 30watts amp?
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question ok lang ba sa small gigs/small clubs ang 30watts amp?
30 Watt Tube, Yes pwede.
30 Watt Solid State, mahirap pag maingay ang tugtugan. madaling mabasag ang tunog.
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30 Watt Tube, Yes pwede.
yehey..thanks... how about a little bigger size venue? let's say 4 saguijos? or 6 saguijos?
kaya kaya ng 30W tube?
if not mareremedyohan ng PA mic?
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For your budget, I'll go for the STAGG GAR60. really impressed with this amp for the price. takes in pedals very well, nice cleans and EQ + Reverb are not bad. plus its built like it will last for a long time.
pero tama sila. kung kaya, peavey bandit 112. yan lang yung mga solidstates na feel ko gig worthy. hahahaha most of the SS marshalls i've tried are just... meh. tapos mahap pa :|
ang ayoko lang sa bandit is that it could be too trebly at times.
nevertheless, gig worthy parin tong amp na to.
and yes, mahal ang marshall lelz
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Tangkad Lapad mo siguro sir. :lol:
FTFY :lol:
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FTFY :lol:
:lol: WOHOHOHO wala akong sinabing malapad ha... :lol:
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4 to 6k? Hanap ka 2ndhand laney cub10
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yehey..thanks... how about a little bigger size venue? let's say 4 saguijos? or 6 saguijos?
kaya kaya ng 30W tube?
if not mareremedyohan ng PA mic?
kaya ng 30W tube amp yun given that it's a combo amp with a 12 inch speaker.
I've played at a venue that's 3 or 4 saguijos (ginawang unit of measurement. haha) with a 15W tube amp head with a 1 x 12 cab with no problems cutting through the mix and and kept up with the full band setup alongside another guitarist with a 4 x 12 solidstate amp and still had a lot of headroom. So yeah, a 30W amp with a 1 x 12 cab shouldn't have problems with the venue sizes you mentioned.
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4-6k budget for an amp is a joke. you won't get an amp, you'd get a toy amp, just like 500 pesos will get you a toy acoustic guitar in the malls.
having said that, i would suggest a zt lunchbox (elevated) for your guitar amp, and for your bass set-up... peavey 12 inch MONITOR speakers and a sansamp bass driver for that amp sound. a real bass amp is gonna cost you 30K minimum
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kaya ng 30W tube amp yun given that it's a combo amp with a 12 inch speaker.
I've played at a venue that's 3 or 4 saguijos (ginawang unit of measurement. haha) with a 15W tube amp head with a 1 x 12 cab with no problems cutting through the mix and and kept up with the full band setup alongside another guitarist with a 4 x 12 solidstate amp and still had a lot of headroom. So yeah, a 30W amp with a 1 x 12 cab shouldn't have problems with the venue sizes you mentioned.
+1 hahahaha oo nga eh ginawang unit of measurement. 3 or 4 saguijos for me is 70's bistro. and yes, kaya ng 30W tube amp tong venue na to.
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ang ayoko lang sa bandit is that it could be too trebly at times.
nevertheless, gig worthy parin tong amp na to.
and yes, mahal ang marshall lelz
True. especially if you beyond the 12 oclock mark. :O at high volumes nararamdaman mo na yung pagkasolidstate niya na basag :| pero yes, nevertheless, gig worthy parin. hindi suplado sa pedals hahaha.
trudat. and the SS Marshalls have this transformer issue na humihina yung volume bigla while playing. especially sa MG series. :|
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a real bass amp is gonna cost you 30K minimum
Brandnew?
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+1 hahahaha oo nga eh ginawang unit of measurement. 3 or 4 saguijos for me is 70's bistro. and yes, kaya ng 30W tube amp tong venue na to.
wahahaha! mahirap magimagine kasi pag square meters eh. mas maganda yung napuntahan mo na yung place.. kung kaya ng 15Watts with 2x12cabs ang 70s bistro meaning ang 30watts na dalawang 70s bistro with 2x12 cabs eh kayang kaya? hmm interesting.. thanks guys!
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wahahaha! mahirap magimagine kasi pag square meters eh. mas maganda yung napuntahan mo na yung place.. kung kaya ng 15Watts with 2x12cabs ang 70s bistro meaning ang 30watts na dalawang 70s bistro with 2x12 cabs eh kayang kaya? hmm interesting.. thanks guys!
that does not equate to that bro ha. kasi doubling the watts does not necessarily double the volume. tumataas lang ang clean headroom mo.
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that does not equate to that bro ha. kasi doubling the watts does not necessarily double the volume. tumataas lang ang clean headroom mo.
ohhh.. nabasa ko na. gets ko na..linaw na.. thanks.. hehe kakabasa ko lang ngayun sa google :eek:
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True. especially if you beyond the 12 oclock mark. :O at high volumes nararamdaman mo na yung pagkasolidstate niya na basag :| pero yes, nevertheless, gig worthy parin. hindi suplado sa pedals hahaha.
trudat. and the SS Marshalls have this transformer issue na humihina yung volume bigla while playing. especially sa MG series. :|
Yup, hassle yang MG series, may ganyan yung barkada ko. ganyan di sakit <_<
4-6k budget for an amp is a joke. you won't get an amp, you'd get a toy amp, just like 500 pesos will get you a toy acoustic guitar in the malls.
having said that, i would suggest a zt lunchbox (elevated) for your guitar amp, and for your bass set-up... peavey 12 inch MONITOR speakers and a sansamp bass driver for that amp sound. a real bass amp is gonna cost you 30K minimum
nah. for me, I won't recommend the lunchbox. namamatay mag-isa yan eh. I've seen one in action and was impressed pero yun nga, kalagitnaan ng set namatay yung amp :x
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nah. for me, I won't recommend the lunchbox. namamatay mag-isa yan eh. I've seen one in action and was impressed pero yun nga, kalagitnaan ng set namatay yung amp :x
any recommendations sir?
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Yup, hassle yang MG series, may ganyan yung barkada ko. ganyan di sakit <_<
nah. for me, I won't recommend the lunchbox. namamatay mag-isa yan eh. I've seen one in action and was impressed pero yun nga, kalagitnaan ng set namatay yung amp :x
The Lunchbox has an issue with a cap or thermal fuse I think. Someone posted the fix here so a minor fix will do the job. I'd recommend the lunchbox kaso masyado na mahal.
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Line6 Spider IV 30watts ok ba?
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ipon ka pa men! medyo wala ka makukuha matino sa 6k talaga. tapos try mo ZT Club 12. Maliit. Magaan. 200watts.
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ipon ka pa men! medyo wala ka makukuha matino sa 6k talaga. tapos try mo ZT Club 12. Maliit. Magaan. 200watts.
Matagal ka nang user ng ZT Club 12 bro? Sabi kasi sa taas may problema daw sa power supply nito? Biglang nagshashutdown. :?
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Matagal ka nang user ng ZT Club 12 bro? Sabi kasi sa taas may problema daw sa power supply nito? Biglang nagshashutdown. :?
nope wala naman. been using it since 2011. nagshutdown lang zt club 12 ko sa re-amping session na 4 na oras at naka full volume the whole time. yung yung overheat auto shutdown feature niya.
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Man, sana merong mag benta ng sobrang mura na malaking amps for you to use in your venue. Alam ko ang regular kinds of gigs on that venue are the NYC Hardcore tough guy kind of stuff. Really heavy music with moshing, and the occasional circle pits, tas makikita mo ang amps na gamit ay napakaliit. That venue deserves tube heads and 4x12's! :D
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if you get the chance, may cheap brand na b52 ... i think ginagaya nya yung marshall, pero its really loud and very cheap, plus it takes pedals really well. nakikita ko sa ebay na it costs 5K pesos lang minsan lol yun nga lang, ship mo pa yan dito sa pinas.
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Line6 Spider IV 30watts ok ba?
not for a gig setting. pambahay oo. mejo mahina ang line6 eh. pero good sounding naman.
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not for a gig setting. pambahay oo. mejo mahina ang line6 eh. pero good sounding naman.
too digital in my taste pag gamit mo yung on board effects.
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too digital in my taste pag gamit mo yung on board effects.
well, mahirap naman gamitin yung onboard effects on the fly hahaha except kung binili mo rin yung controller hahahaha
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tatanong ko lang po kung may maiisuggest kayo na murang guitar amp and bass guit amp.
, na pedeng gamitin sa mga gigs. maliit lang naman yung venue at pedeng i line in sa mixers, so ndi kelangan na sobra laki yung amp.
possible budget ay 4-6 k per amplifier.
Ang baba naman ng budget. Sana doble, pwede na.
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ipon ka pa men! medyo wala ka makukuha matino sa 6k talaga. tapos try mo ZT Club 12. Maliit. Magaan. 200watts.
salamat sir sa reply =)
sana mkabalik kayo dito sa batangas sir =)
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napapaisip ako..since ive been helping a lady friend sa GAS nya...
di makapili sa... (since halos magkaka price)
eto:
sa Goldea AT30 equipped ng 2x 6L6GC tubes. 30watts (brand new)
versus
2nd hand Roland Jazz Chorus 120 (watts)
versus
Brand New Fender Solid State (Champion 100) 100watts
genre: 50s to 70s chicago blues..soul..indie pop, rock..
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ayan.
Goldea AT30 equipped ng 2x 6L6GC tubes. 30watts (brand new)
2nd hand Roland Jazz Chorus 120 (watts)
either sa kanila good yab. pass sa SS na fender :) IMHO lang.
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ayan.
Goldea AT30 equipped ng 2x 6L6GC tubes. 30watts (brand new)
2nd hand Roland Jazz Chorus 120 (watts)
either sa kanila good yab. pass sa SS na fender :) IMHO lang.
naisip ko din yan. pero maganda kasi speakers + cosmetics. plus iniisip ko.. ok na kaya sha surpass nya na roland chorus and goldea kung papa convert ko fender champion 100 converted with 4 6L6GC na tubes? ala twin reverb? :cute:
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naisip ko din yan. pero maganda kasi speakers + cosmetics. plus iniisip ko.. ok na kaya sha surpass nya na roland chorus and goldea kung papa convert ko fender champion 100 converted with 4 6L6GC na tubes? ala twin reverb? :cute:
papaconvert ka pa, hassle, sayang lang. wag na. di ka pa sure kung tama yung gagawin. might as well go for a good AS IS amp like the Goldea or the JC120.
actually, saan ka makakakuha ng JC120? :O atsaka mejo malayo price range niyan sa goldea ha hahahaha
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papaconvert ka pa, hassle, sayang lang. wag na. di ka pa sure kung tama yung gagawin. might as well go for a good AS IS amp like the Goldea or the JC120.
actually, saan ka makakakuha ng JC120? :O atsaka mejo malayo price range niyan sa goldea ha hahahaha
may nagooffer lang JC120 24k yata. :)
kaya lang pansin ko di sha maganda sa may distorsion or hi drive/fuzz.. mas versa nalang kung goldea at30 no?
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may nagooffer lang JC120 24k yata. :)
kaya lang pansin ko di sha maganda sa may distorsion or hi drive/fuzz.. mas versa nalang kung goldea at30 no?
IMHO mas versatile si JC120. Goldea lang if you're gonna be using Distortion or Overdrive most of the time.
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serious? mas ok /versatile ang JC120 kesa goldea at30 (deluxe reverb clone-specs)? most of the time boost+transparent OD lang ako.. so JC120 talaga?
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serious? mas ok /versatile ang JC120 kesa goldea at30 (deluxe reverb clone-specs)? most of the time boost+transparent OD lang ako.. so JC120 talaga?
IMHO lang naman yun. the JC120 takes pedals very well. and the cleans are just pristine.
Pero yun nga, since most of the time, boost and OD ka, maybe the goldea is a better fit.
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IMHO lang naman yun. the JC120 takes pedals very well. and the cleans are just pristine.
Pero yun nga, since most of the time, boost and OD ka, maybe the goldea is a better fit.
And due to its pristine cleans....it sucks with metal pedals.. :lol: :lol:
Had a JC-60 before... the 60-watt 1x12 brother of the JC120.. :wave:
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:cry: nakakabaliw magdecide..
minsan kasi i just need that swelling delay loop+reverb ambient-U2-Coldplay/. tpos minsan pure clean boost, little teaspoon crunch drive
lang.. example+hhmm cguro bloc party?
tpos minsan fuzz ambient reverb +post rock.
minsan drive+boost SRV (lighter version)/buddy guy..
ganun sounds..
so dapat versatile no?
thanks guys
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And due to its pristine cleans....it sucks with metal pedals.. :lol: :lol:
Had a JC-60 before... the 60-watt 1x12 brother of the JC120.. :wave:
definitely not for high gain purposes, but for OD to light dists, i think its fine. :) pero again, YMMV hhahaha
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kaya ba ng mga laney cub8/10 o microterror ang mga bar gigs?
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kaya ba ng mga laney cub8/10 o microterror ang mga bar gigs?
cub8/cub10, most probably hindi lalo na pag high gain na.
microterror into a large cabinet kayang kaya.
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cub8/cub10, most probably hindi lalo na pag high gain na.
microterror into a large cabinet kayang kaya.
say ang extension cab ko ilalagay ay mga 4x12?
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say ang extension cab ko ilalagay ay mga 4x12?
kayang kaya.
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kayang kaya.
thanks!
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say ang extension cab ko ilalagay ay mga 4x12?
Use speakers with high sensitivity.
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Use speakers with high sensitivity.
examples sir?
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examples sir?
http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/tech-tips/tech-tip-wattage-speaker-efficiency-amplifier-loudness (http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/tech-tips/tech-tip-wattage-speaker-efficiency-amplifier-loudness)
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ah gets ng konti.haha
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ah gets ng konti.haha
It simply means that a 1 watt amp with a very efficient speaker can sound as loud as a 10 watt amp with a non-efficient speaker. In short, get a speaker with high dB rating to make it sound louder.
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It simply means that a 1 watt amp with a very efficient speaker can sound as loud as a 10 watt amp with a non-efficient speaker. In short, get a speaker with high dB rating to make it sound louder.
yeah read that.salamat bosing! :-D