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Title: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: Stiggy on June 16, 2015, 03:22:34 PM
pa help nmn ako ayos nman ung tone ko sa tugtogan namin pero mas malupet kung mas near ung tone ko kay dimebag lalo na sa mga solo part. nalilito ako kung ano ba parang harmonizer/phaser/flanger.. or kung may legit pic kayo ng pedal board ni dimebag na kanya tlga.
btw im using line6 pod hd300 slamat sa tutulong \m/ \m/
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: ryechua on June 16, 2015, 03:39:32 PM
try mo sa line6 customtone

http://line6.com/customtone/browse/podhd300/
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: sonicassault on June 16, 2015, 04:14:17 PM
MXR Flanger/Doubler, in the doubler setting, so start playing with your delay/harmonizer/chorus parameters.
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: guitarwiz02 on June 16, 2015, 04:54:43 PM
All these settings, pedal combinations and whatnot, will not even get you close enough to sounding like Dime if you're using a tube amp. What made Dime's sound and tone so unique is the fact that he dedicatedly favored solid-state amps over tubes. Believe it or not, Dime's signature tight, deep, headcrushing, hard-grinding tone all came from his solid-state Randalls. Yes, solid-state Randalls.  :razz:

Then again, tone is in the fingers. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: KennyKen on June 16, 2015, 05:11:32 PM
All these settings, pedal combinations and whatnot, will not even get you close enough to sounding like Dime if you're using a tube amp. What made Dime's sound and tone so unique is the fact that he dedicatedly favored solid-state amps over tubes. Believe it or not, Dime's signature tight, deep, headcrushing, hard-grinding tone all came from his solid-state Randalls. Yes, solid-state Randalls.  :razz:

Then again, tone is in the fingers. :lol: :lol: :lol:

This...Plus it involves sound engineering Wizardry....you can NEVER copy Dimebag's studio sound though, lalo na yung lead tone niya sa Vulgar Display Of Power...dami kayang layering ginagawa niya...sa live naman, posible pa
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: sonicassault on June 16, 2015, 05:32:42 PM
This...Plus it involves sound engineering Wizardry....you can NEVER copy Dimebag's studio sound though, lalo na yung lead tone niya sa Vulgar Display Of Power...dami kayang layering ginagawa niya...sa live naman, posible pa

He once had three of those Randalls mixed down to one track... then doubled the riffs/solos on the same rig.   :mrgreen: I'm not sure if he uses the doubler effect live though, di ko actually pinapansin.
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: sonicassault on June 16, 2015, 05:34:59 PM
All these settings, pedal combinations and whatnot, will not even get you close enough to sounding like Dime if you're using a tube amp. What made Dime's sound and tone so unique is the fact that he dedicatedly favored solid-state amps over tubes. Believe it or not, Dime's signature tight, deep, headcrushing, hard-grinding tone all came from his solid-state Randalls. Yes, solid-state Randalls.  :razz:

Then again, tone is in the fingers. :lol: :lol: :lol:

A lot of people don't like his tone though  :lol: sakto lang sakin. I don't like it as a metal tone (bring back the mids!), but it's "The Pantera Sound," and there's a reason people like TS want the dime sound  :-D
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: david_leyson on June 16, 2015, 07:02:42 PM
ewan ko, pero the way i see, Dime's tone is very stable due to the choice of using the solid state rather the tube, and the mids are really pulled down, i think the sig amp that were made was a derived version of a Randall that he used. about the pedal he uses, men i think he doesn't even use his sig pedal MXR Dime Dist. though hearing it can make you realize it could o it could not sound as what Dime's tone is. that pedal isn't high gain at all, it's mid scooped, really really scooped.

Shameless plug ++> Sorry OT, hehe, TS if you're looking for a MXR Dime Dist, i'm letting mine go, PM me, hahah!
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: guitaricci on June 16, 2015, 07:35:13 PM
Wala bang stock preset ang HD300 na Dimebag/Pantera Tone? Kung wala man...you can sure try Ryechua's suggestion to download from line 6 customtone
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: sonicassault on June 17, 2015, 08:10:46 AM
ewan ko, pero the way i see, Dime's tone is very stable due to the choice of using the solid state rather the tube, and the mids are really pulled down, i think the sig amp that were made was a derived version of a Randall that he used. about the pedal he uses, men i think he doesn't even use his sig pedal MXR Dime Dist. though hearing it can make you realize it could o it could not sound as what Dime's tone is. that pedal isn't high gain at all, it's mid scooped, really really scooped.

Shameless plug ++> Sorry OT, hehe, TS if you're looking for a MXR Dime Dist, i'm letting mine go, PM me, hahah!

Yes, his signature amp is a true mod of the amps he uses, may EQ ata na sinalpak dun sa model na gamit nya. And yes he doesn't use his signature pedal, pero syempre para sa practice nya, or for people like us who don't have access to Randall solid states cranked up to ear splitting levels.
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: Igor on June 17, 2015, 08:29:45 AM

    Try mo din siguro bumili nung pups nya. L500XL Made by Jzchak Wajcman DBA *Bill Lawrence USA

     
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: geetar_geek79 on June 17, 2015, 01:17:50 PM
IMHO, I think his tone was mostly recording technique more than anything else (besides the way he plays).
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: sonicassault on June 17, 2015, 01:50:18 PM
ang hanap ata kasi ni TS yung tunog sa mga album na pag nasa high register na tapos may mga squeals may effect na flanging whatever.
Recording technique na lang talaga yun. A combination of double tracking, deliberate sloppy double tracking, and that MXR flanger/doubler rackmount effect, which I think manually pinipihit nung guitar tech nya.

so yeah kung sa live tone nya, sapat na yung ultra scooped distortion tone, adjust gain to chug chug taste tapos hanap ka ng delay pedal na may super short delay, or flanger na papasa.
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: Zacchary_amadeus on June 17, 2015, 02:02:30 PM
I think he uses zakk wylde mxr distortion.. Never siyang gumamit ng signature dime distortion niya.
Then tapos guitar pick up i think is bill lawrence pick up. Pero try mo seymour duncan dime bucker sig niya rin yun.
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: Stiggy on June 18, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
slamat sa help try ko mga sinabi nio except sa bill lawrence pick up wlang budget haha..
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: melodic666DeathMetal on June 18, 2015, 04:24:25 PM
may mga nagtry din gayahin ang tone ni dimebag using zoom g2 

not an exact copy but not bad either...
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: gandydancer123 on June 18, 2015, 05:28:28 PM
makapag patutog nga ng pantera to round of the afternoon!
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: sonicassault on June 19, 2015, 12:46:03 PM
masaya din pag naka floyded ML feel mo talaga  :lol:
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: Freak on June 23, 2015, 03:30:51 PM
Bill Lawrence blade pickups for bridge (installed in reverse) and SD SH1b for the neck... yes a bridge pickup on the neck position  :razz:
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: yekoz on June 23, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
May nakita ako nito sa GUITAR MAGAZINE,,, using KORG G3 personal settings ni DIMEBAG complete. Forgot the magazine...

Hell Yeah "Cemetary Gates"...  love all his works...
Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: Saudades on June 23, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
This might help a little...

Title: Re: darell dimebag tone!!!
Post by: sonicassault on June 23, 2015, 05:09:43 PM
Bill Lawrence blade pickups for bridge (installed in reverse) and SD SH1b for the neck... yes a bridge pickup on the neck position  :razz:

ito daw yung setup na gamit nya pag wala sa kanya yung mxr flanger/doubler nya. ewan ko lang kung same setup din kahit andun yung flanger/doubler