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The Musician Forums => Guitar Central => Topic started by: r_chino18 on January 27, 2016, 01:56:58 PM
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An new amp head is on the way so I decided to build myself a new 1x12 cab. I've got some spare time as well so hopefully I can finish the build just in time for its arrival.
I'm basing this cab build on a Mesa Mini Recto Straight 1x12 cab with the following dimensions - 19 3/4" x 18" x 11.5" (L x W x D).
I decided to make the cab slightly deeper at 11.5" (opposed to the original at 11") to make room for any human error while cutting. However, it seems that all went good so I'll go with the very slightly deeper measurement.
3/4" marine grade plywood was used. I started out by taking my measurements and cutting a whole length across the plywood. It was crucial to cut it squarely with respect to the surface as it would definitely decrease the margin of error later on when I piece them up.
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The plank was labeled and measured. This will be my top, bottom, and side panels for the cab. For this build, I'm not going for the usual butt joint. I have acquired a dovetail jig, however, I was hesitant to use it on plywood as the wood might burst and I might encounter a lot of tears.
I'll go with a more tedious manual dovetail joint, but relatively simpler although equally effective. The dovetail will be limited to two big dovetails just for structural reasons. This will defeat using screws and nails for the actual edges. This way, I can round off the edges better when at the latter stage of the build.
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After measuring the panels and drawing lines for my dovetail cuts, it was on to the actual cutting.
Special thanks to a good friend and fellow forumer, rayvelasco, for sharpening my edges! My chisel can now cut through the "sandwich" of the ply easier and cleaner.. just like a hot knife thru butter. :-)
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Here's the finished rough cut on one edge... and I'll be doing those on 7 more corners.. :-o
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The counterpart of the dovetails would be where they'd join...
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After going through all the panels, the best part was the assembly. It's just like assembling puzzle pieces. It should not be much of a problem when the measurements and cuts are accurate. The outcome is a tight fitting joint. Minor gaps will be filled and the joints will be glued as well. Pretty happy with how it turned out. :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_6824_zpspxpldvly.jpg)
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Once the 4 panels are assembled and due to the design of the dovetails, the cab can definitely hold its shape even without glues and nails. An advantage is that I can secure it better (and squarely) when it's time for gluing and clamping and the actual structural support is increased.
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After the rough box assembly, braces will be glued inside. This is for the baffle support and the back panel. Then the edges will be sanded down and leveled to remove the uneven surface before rounding off the corners... still a long way to go.. :)
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Wow!
You guys are having one fun and productive time. :)
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....Zolid! :-D
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Great stuff as always chino! :)
Alam ko nakapagbuo ka na ng similar projects dati using the same sort of plywood. Kamusta naman yung tunog lalo pag malakas? Ang laging sinasabi sa mga DIY forums ng speaker cabinet builders, hindi maganda yung plywood na may spaces sa loob dahil baka magkaroon ng di magandang resonance, or rattling dahil may loose sa loob. TIA!
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Wow!
You guys are having one fun and productive time. :)
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
....Zolid! :-D
Plywoodz! :lol:
Great stuff as always chino! :)
Alam ko nakapagbuo ka na ng similar projects dati using the same sort of plywood. Kamusta naman yung tunog lalo pag malakas? Ang laging sinasabi sa mga DIY forums ng speaker cabinet builders, hindi maganda yung plywood na may spaces sa loob dahil baka magkaroon ng di magandang resonance, or rattling dahil may loose sa loob. TIA!
Thanks Jolo!
Interesting question... I actually wanted to use MDF for this build, pero I don't have the proper tools pa to cut it properly, alam ko alanganin yun gamitan ng handsaw eh.. Would love the get hold of some void-free baltic birch ply, pero ang alam kong source ay medyo malayo and it's certainly not cheap.
I got lucky with this plywood (acquired late last year), konti ang voids niya compared sa mga iba kong naencounter earlier last year and nung 2014. Yun ang medyo mababa talaga quality, ampaw kung ampaw.
Of all the cabs I built, lahat sila iba-iba ng dimensions at iba-iba rin ang speakers na ginamit ko.. Though I never had any rattling issues sa kanila. I guess yung rattling will be more of how solid the construction is.
My 1st cab build, 1x12 Egnater Rebel size cab w/ a Celestion Rocket 50 is now with juwanfidel. He uses it with his Orange Dark Terror, alam ko gamit na gamit rin for recording. :)
My 2nd build was a 2x12 Fender Bandmaster size style 212.. eto medyo oversized cab and hindi niya nagustuhan yung Jensen Mod 12-70 speakers kasi hindi ma-drive nung speakers yung laki ng dimensions. Eventually put Eminence Governors which put the oomph in the cab. A fellow forumer got it and paired it with his Randall head. Match made in heaven raw. :)
My 3rd build was a 2x12 Twin Reverb style cab para dun sa Fender Dual Showman Reverb (Twin Reverb head) ko dati, it had a pair of Jensen Mod 12-70 speakers... now with the band Earthmover.
The 4th build was a 2x12 Bluesbreaker style cab which I used for a while with my amp head until I got a bigger cab for it..
Of them all, hindi ako naka experience ng rattling.. pero I must say na malaking factor ang matching ng speaker sa dimensions ng cab. Will probably get back with updated results when I finish this cab and fire it up with an amp.
And while they have been great cabs.. ibang-iba pa rin talaga ang level ng boutique cabs.. :lol:
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I just want to chime in and share some impt. info sa plywood. I just finished my DIY 2x12 cab in the specs of Bogner OS 212 height, Orange 212 depth and Mesa vertical 212 width loade w/ Eminence Governor for my Mesa Boogie Roadster and it sounds mean and full. Solve talaga ako sa 3/4 sa marine grade plywood but the catch is there are so many plywood claims na marine grade sila but for me Santa Rosa Plywood is the real marine grade plywood locally,
Ito yung ginagawang bangka locally na malalaki medyo pricy more than twice the price sa ibang plywood. I was looking for a birch plywood but wala akong mahanap good thing is naka score ako nang Santa Rosa Plywood its 5ply thick and non-void talaga xa and solid yung fly wala akong makitang sandwich ply in the middle sa board like sa 2nd pic nung OP though pwede mo xang lagayan nang sealant para walang air in the middle sa ply that can add some resonant at high volumes.
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Do you offer this as a commercial service, sir? Ang galing!
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I just want to chime in and share some impt. info sa plywood. I just finished my DIY 2x12 cab in the specs of Bogner OS 212 height, Orange 212 depth and Mesa vertical 212 width loade w/ Eminence Governor for my Mesa Boogie Roadster and it sounds mean and full. Solve talaga ako sa 3/4 sa marine grade plywood but the catch is there are so many plywood claims na marine grade sila but for me Santa Rosa Plywood is the real marine grade plywood locally,
Ito yung ginagawang bangka locally na malalaki medyo pricy more than twice the price sa ibang plywood. I was looking for a birch plywood but wala akong mahanap good thing is naka score ako nang Santa Rosa Plywood its 5ply thick and non-void talaga xa and solid yung fly wala akong makitang sandwich ply in the middle sa board like sa 2nd pic nung OP though pwede mo xang lagayan nang sealant para walang air in the middle sa ply that can add some resonant at high volumes.
Awesome! Interesting stuff. Saan ka nakakuha sir nung Santa Rosa Plywood?
Do you offer this as a commercial service, sir? Ang galing!
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Hi sir, thank you.. :)
Di pa muna sa ngayon.. just building some personal cabs at the moment.. Maybe next time pag may free time, pwede. :-)
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Just visit lang to one of the bigger Hardware store in your place, nahanap ko siya sa Atlantic Hardware. I dont have a close up pics when making my cab but I can share my recently finished build.
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n532/6string_highway/1.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/6string_highway/media/1.jpg.html)
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n532/6string_highway/12471752_1264091670273128_6433642930575290248_o.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/6string_highway/media/12471752_1264091670273128_6433642930575290248_o.jpg.html)
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n532/6string_highway/12592316_1270700929612202_8904318541978234850_n.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/6string_highway/media/12592316_1270700929612202_8904318541978234850_n.jpg.html)
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Thanks for the info, 7string_highway. :)
Nice build you got there. From the dimensions and choice of speakers, I bet it sounds massive and chunky with your Dual Rec. :mrgreen:
Update with the cab build... Baffle braces are in.. Glued and clamped and 'screwed' in place.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7145_zpsxsw94azb.jpg)
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Just visit lang to one of the bigger Hardware store in your place, nahanap ko siya sa Atlantic Hardware. I dont have a close up pics when making my cab but I can share my recently finished build.
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n532/6string_highway/1.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/6string_highway/media/1.jpg.html)
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n532/6string_highway/12471752_1264091670273128_6433642930575290248_o.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/6string_highway/media/12471752_1264091670273128_6433642930575290248_o.jpg.html)
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n532/6string_highway/12592316_1270700929612202_8904318541978234850_n.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/6string_highway/media/12592316_1270700929612202_8904318541978234850_n.jpg.html)
Nice cab build sir.. Was wondering where did you get your amp grill cloth locally? I'm building a DIY oversized 1x12 for my amp ( 4th build already ). Dati yung mga gawa kong cab
plastic gray mosquito nets gamit ko. I was thinking baka may ibang alternative na mas maganda.
r_chino18: Nice 1x12 build pala... as always. Ive seen your 2x12's before in your posts. Bihasang bihasa ka na sa pag DIY ng cabs hehe :)
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r_chino18: Nice 1x12 build pala... as always. Ive seen your 2x12's before in your posts. Bihasang bihasa ka na sa pag DIY ng cabs hehe :)
Thanks bro! Pang lima ko pa lang naman ito.. ikaw nakaka-apat na.. lamang lang ako ng isa.. Bihasa ka na rin siguro haha. Speaking of, I back-read my old DIY cab threads, most of them, wala na pala pictures.. Dapat pala hindi ko ginamit yung image link ng facebook.. Will try to find time to re-upload the images sa photobucket para mas mapreserve yung pictures dun sa threads, para sa reference ng ibang interesadong mag DIY. :-)
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Thanks bro! Pang lima ko pa lang naman ito.. ikaw nakaka-apat na.. lamang lang ako ng isa.. Bihasa ka na rin siguro haha. Speaking of, I back-read my old DIY cab threads, most of them, wala na pala pictures.. Dapat pala hindi ko ginamit yung image link ng facebook.. Will try to find time to re-upload the images sa photobucket para mas mapreserve yung pictures dun sa threads, para sa reference ng ibang interesadong mag DIY. :-)
I agree hehe. Big help yun sa mga gustong mag DIY. Its the cheapest way to go for cabs and its fun and exciting naman when building. Nah puro 1X12 lang nagawa ko made up of cheap 3/4 plywoods sa mga 2nd hand wood stores. Sa mga marunong add din kayo ng links or shops about alternative grill cloths or Tolex. For years Ive been using Tarpauline (Black) and Carbon fiber sticker for Tolex and mosquito net for grill cloth. Baka may mas magandang alternative na may mabilhan locally. Big help din sa amin yun who can't afford international shipping for tolex and real grill cloths. etc.
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For grill cloth mahirap talag maka hanap swerte na kung maka hanap ka nang medyo makapal na grill cloth, In my case ang tawag pala dun sa grill cloth like sa chester enterprises or the likes is "ALASKIN" then for the tolex marami namn diyan sa SUNGOLD or any store that specializes furniture prinala.
I will post for some close up image sa santa rosa plywood and its ply, tolex and grill in the following days para makatulong sa mga fellow DIYérs.
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Alaskin hmm... interesting. Thanks 7string sa response. Not familiar with the stores you mentioned like Chester enterprises or Sungold. San banda yun sir?
Interested ako dun sa santa rosa plywood na sinasabi mo. ( will wait for your pics ) hehe :)
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Nice, Ang Ganda Sir Chino. :drool: Pulido pagkakagawa.
Sir Magkano po inabot sa wood, Pabulong po. tnx
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I agree hehe. Big help yun sa mga gustong mag DIY. Its the cheapest way to go for cabs and its fun and exciting naman when building. Nah puro 1X12 lang nagawa ko made up of cheap 3/4 plywoods sa mga 2nd hand wood stores. Sa mga marunong add din kayo ng links or shops about alternative grill cloths or Tolex. For years Ive been using Tarpauline (Black) and Carbon fiber sticker for Tolex and mosquito net for grill cloth. Baka may mas magandang alternative na may mabilhan locally. Big help din sa amin yun who can't afford international shipping for tolex and real grill cloths. etc.
Spent a whole night fixing the broken image links dun sa previous DIY threads ko. Haha.
DIY Cab build #2 (2x12 Bandmaster style) (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=261470.msg3567060#msg3567060)
DIY Cab Build #3 (2x12 modified Twin Reverb style) (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=276204.msg3773431#msg3773431)
I've used regular cotton cloth (folded in two para makapal and stretched very well habang nilalagay sa baffle), pero on my Twin Reverb cab build, I eventually ordered the correct Fender silver grill cloth outside Pinas.
Minsan sa sobrang hassle maghanap ng grill cloth at tolex, naiisip ko mag solid wood cab build na lang tapos see-thru finish. Haha. Mapapagastos lang ako sa kahoy at kailangan malinis na malinis ang gawa para maganda tingnan.
For grill cloth mahirap talag maka hanap swerte na kung maka hanap ka nang medyo makapal na grill cloth, In my case ang tawag pala dun sa grill cloth like sa chester enterprises or the likes is "ALASKIN" then for the tolex marami namn diyan sa SUNGOLD or any store that specializes furniture prinala.
I will post for some close up image sa santa rosa plywood and its ply, tolex and grill in the following days para makatulong sa mga fellow DIYérs.
Nagbasa ako nung isang gabi regarding the Sta Rosa plywood.. may history pala yan, dating Sta Clara tapos naging Sta Rosa.. made by Zamboply according sa nabasa ko.. Looks like good stuff. Sana makahanap ako nito, if not, my next cab build will be from solid pine.
Nice, Ang Ganda Sir Chino. :drool: Pulido pagkakagawa.
Sir Magkano po inabot sa wood, Pabulong po. tnx
Salamat, sir.. :) yung 3/4 inch (~18mm) marine plywood ay nasa mga 1,000 to 1,200php per board (4ft x 8ft). Enough to make two 1x12 cabs... I'm actually building two 1x12s at the moment. Hahaha.
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Measured the baffles and marked accordingly.. Will be easier to cut out the holes first before sawing the squares from the main plywood.
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Two cabs waiting for their back panel bracing..
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Amoy stereo! :-D
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Mga gaano kabigat to pare?
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Amoy stereo! :-D
Haha sadly, isa lang speaker ko na nakatabi.. kaya problema pa yung isang cab kung ano ilalagay ko.. :-(
Mga gaano kabigat to pare?
Pag tapos na bro, saka ko timbangin.. mejo may kabigatan rin siya.
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For more info regarding the Santa Rosa plywood. http://www.zamboply.com/sh_portfolio/santa-rosa/ (http://www.zamboply.com/sh_portfolio/santa-rosa/)
http://www.pinoyboats.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2448 (http://www.pinoyboats.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2448) . I think the most impt. in DIY cab making is the quality of the ply,
I've tried some pine cabs nag shine talaga xa for a clean to early breakup but sa high gain I prefer non-resonant material like birch ply or MDF,
pero yung Birch ply wala talag akong mahanp locally may nag offer sa akin pero in a bulk order.
@ sir chino pa document naman sa wiring nyo sir I'm pretty noob in soldering yung sa aking kaibaigan ko nag wiring binigyan kulang xa nang schematics, ano gamit mo for the input jacks sa cable speaker?
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For more info regarding the Santa Rosa plywood. http://www.zamboply.com/sh_portfolio/santa-rosa/ (http://www.zamboply.com/sh_portfolio/santa-rosa/)
http://www.pinoyboats.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2448 (http://www.pinoyboats.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2448) . I think the most impt. in DIY cab making is the quality of the ply,
I've tried some pine cabs nag shine talaga xa for a clean to early breakup but sa high gain I prefer non-resonant material like birch ply or MDF,
pero yung Birch ply wala talag akong mahanp locally may nag offer sa akin pero in a bulk order.
@ sir chino pa document naman sa wiring nyo sir I'm pretty noob in soldering yung sa aking kaibaigan ko nag wiring binigyan kulang xa nang schematics, ano gamit mo for the input jacks sa cable speaker?
Agree ako sa findings mo bro.
Solid cab balak ko for a "clean-ish" style head and play, hanggang light OD... dahil sa pag resonate ng cab. :) Tapos syempre, plywood or MDF pag dating sa mga heavier stuff or generally the majority of genres.
Wiring will depend sa impedance na habol mo for your build. I can do yung may switch pag sa 2x12.. kung parehong 8 ohms ang speaker, pwede mag lagay ng switch and select a 16-ohm or 4-ohm total impedance.
Pero since 1x12 ang ito, very straight forward lang ang gagawin ko. Isang input jack lang.. Or pwedeng dalawa so I can hook up two cabs in parallel.. Switchcraft ang jacks na gamit ko.. Tapos yung sa speaker naman, any speaker cable from 14-18 AWG.. the thicker, the better. :)
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Spent a whole night fixing the broken image links dun sa previous DIY threads ko. Haha.
DIY Cab build #2 (2x12 Bandmaster style) (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=261470.msg3567060#msg3567060)
DIY Cab Build #3 (2x12 modified Twin Reverb style) (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=276204.msg3773431#msg3773431)
I've used regular cotton cloth (folded in two para makapal and stretched very well habang nilalagay sa baffle), pero on my Twin Reverb cab build, I eventually ordered the correct Fender silver grill cloth outside Pinas.
Minsan sa sobrang hassle maghanap ng grill cloth at tolex, naiisip ko mag solid wood cab build na lang tapos see-thru finish. Haha. Mapapagastos lang ako sa kahoy at kailangan malinis na malinis ang gawa para maganda tingnan.
Ive seen a lot of see thru finishes sa web. One sample can be seen on Premier guitar's rig rundown of the band Brand new yung 2x12 nila natural finish pero mukhang kelangan ng sobrang smooth na surface to make it look great and attractive. Thanks sa link rei. Mareview nga para sa tips :D
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Ive seen a lot of see thru finishes sa web. One sample can be seen on Premier guitar's rig rundown of the band Brand new yung 2x12 nila natural finish pero mukhang kelangan ng sobrang smooth na surface to make it look great and attractive. Thanks sa link rei. Mareview nga para sa tips :D
Yup, from mesa boogie rin, dami nila mga exotic wood na cabs. :)
(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server300/dks6ju/products/1864/images/5110/112ext04__05850.1380928816.1280.1280.jpg?c=2)
Thanks, yung favorite build ko was probably the Twin Reverb style. Medyo compact lang kasi sya. Haha. Probably my cleanest too. :D
Pero sana maging mas malinis itong Recto style build.
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Yup, from mesa boogie rin, dami nila mga exotic wood na cabs. :)
(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server300/dks6ju/products/1864/images/5110/112ext04__05850.1380928816.1280.1280.jpg?c=2)
Thanks, yung favorite build ko was probably the Twin Reverb style. Medyo compact lang kasi sya. Haha. Probably my cleanest too. :D
Pero sana maging mas malinis itong Recto style build.
I'm sure it will. Every build is an upgrade from the previous mas maraming experience mas lalong gumaganda yung gawa. Ganda nga nung twin reverb style. Sakto sa DSR mo lalo na ginawa mo pang silver grill ung sa dsr.
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I'm sure it will. Every build is an upgrade from the previous mas maraming experience mas lalong gumaganda yung gawa. Ganda nga nung twin reverb style. Sakto sa DSR mo lalo na ginawa mo pang silver grill ung sa dsr.
Tama! Every build may bago rin akong approach na ginagawa. In the process, may bago akong natututunan lagi.. :)
Update.... Cut my braces and test fitted them. These braces will be for the back panel. I'll be using a thinner back panel, 1/2" marine ply will be used. Made sure that they fit tightly before gluing, screwing, and clamping.
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Will be filling the voids on one panel... <_<
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Update.. was on the fence if I should add braces for the inner corners. The dovetail joint was plenty enough to stabilize the whole cab, but I've got some left over wood brace which I didn't want to throw away... Oh well.. might as well use them.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7361_zpsfcx0ngqx.jpg)
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Corners were rounded off as well..
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After a first pass with the router..
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Got some wood burns on the corner.. :(
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After some quick sanding with 80-grit to smoothen the rounded corners..
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Cut out the holes. Using 3/4" marine ply for the baffles.
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Grain filler on the edges and on some spots.. mock up with the baffles.. starting to look like proper cabs.. :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7374_zpspohazj0p.jpg)
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Grain filler on the edges and on some spots.. mock up with the baffles.. starting to look like proper cabs.. :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7374_zpspohazj0p.jpg)
Awesome work bro! Will these be daisy chained?
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Awesome work bro! Will these be daisy chained?
Thanks bro. Yup. I'll do a provision where both cabs can be connected (in parallel) and be used simultaneously with one head ala 2x12. :)
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SIDE PROJECT...
I have a 10-watt Blackstar ID Core which I use in my shop and find to be decent sounding for the price.. However, I'm being limited by the small 2.5" speakers. Next to my trusty Roland JC-20 with 5.25" speakers, the Blackstar sounds too small.
Thanks to Mark (piekey) for the assist with the new speakers.. I opted to replace the stock 2.5" speakers with bigger 5.25". I didn't want to massacre the original MDF baffle in the process so I decided to just make a new baffle for the Blackstar.
Night and day difference with the sound dispersion. It sounds a lot bigger and fuller despite the low wattage. Not much cone cry and speaker breakup as well. :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/DSC_7394_zpsqb9awu3k.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/id%20core%202_zps6vkp38ek.jpg)
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Sweet builds already, man. ^-^ Gotta drop by your shop sometime in my future.
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Huhuhu, if you end up selling the 1x12s let me know! :)
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Sweet builds already, man. ^-^ Gotta drop by your shop sometime in my future.
Thanks bro. Hope to meet you soon as well. You still have your DSR? I'm itching for a vintage Fender again.. Probably a 50w Blackface Bassman.. :drool:
Huhuhu, if you end up selling the 1x12s let me know! :)
Hey bro.. I only have one speaker in my reserve so it will most definitely go to one of the cabs.. The other one is an extra build.. A friend of mine has first dibs with it, pero no pressure kung kunin niya or not after ko matapos pareho.. If di niya kunin and you want to check it out, I'd be more than willing. :)
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Hey, bro...naisip ko lang...Does your picture above show how you intend to orient the cab or would it be lying longer side down?
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Hey, bro...naisip ko lang...Does your picture above show how you intend to orient the cab or would it be lying longer side down?
Good one bro. It's intended to be placed as pictured. Longer side up.
Here's a reference pic of how they're supposed to stack when done.
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^^^Nice!
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^^^Nice!
Pretty tall when stacked, actually. Haha.
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bro, pwede ba pagawa ng pang 2x10 na cab sayo? seriously....
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bro, pwede ba pagawa ng pang 2x10 na cab sayo? seriously....
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Hey bro... I've actually been getting a few inquiries already.. Maybe, just maybe, it can push through.. Tapusin ko lang muna itong cab builds ko ngayon so I can sort out the costing.
Still a lot of problem with supplies lalo na pag finishing na.. Tolex, grill cloth, metal coners, etc.. So dun lang talaga sa part na yun magkakatalo, kung ok ba sayo na naka tolex pa or bare (painted) na lang. Hehe.
Pero tingnan natin how my current builds hold up when done. I'll be more than willing for you guys to try out my builds muna bago kayo magpagawa. Haha. :wave:
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Measured my speaker on the baffles and marked the holes for mounting.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7442_zpsnufz94ob.jpg)
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SIDE PROJECT...
I have a 10-watt Blackstar ID Core which I use in my shop and find to be decent sounding for the price.. However, I'm being limited by the small 2.5" speakers. Next to my trusty Roland JC-20 with 5.25" speakers, the Blackstar sounds too small.
Thanks to Mark (piekey) for the assist with the new speakers.. I opted to replace the stock 2.5" speakers with bigger 5.25". I didn't want to massacre the original MDF baffle in the process so I decided to just make a new baffle for the Blackstar.
Night and day difference with the sound dispersion. It sounds a lot bigger and fuller despite the low wattage. Not much cone cry and speaker breakup as well. :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/DSC_7394_zpsqb9awu3k.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/id%20core%202_zps6vkp38ek.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/id%20core_zpsj9he718i.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/DSC_7395_zps54f2tosr.jpg)
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This now has a bass response similar to an 8-inch speaker (average size of speakers times the square root of the number of speakers: (5.25 × 1.4142 = 7.42)
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This now has a bass response similar to an 8-inch speaker (average size of speakers times the square root of the number of speakers: (5.25 × 1.4142 = 7.42)
Thanks for the info bro. I wasn't aware that there was such a computation, but yes, the bass response was bigger and fuller by a mile compared to the stock uber small speakers. :D
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Update..
Since I planned on wrapping the boxes with tolex later on, I needed to apply sanding sealer so the wood won't absorb my adhesive..... While I was at it, I thought to myself, it wouldn't hurt to add the extra effort of staining the wood before applying the sanding sealer. This way, the cab won't look as plain as it was when bare.
I rubbed the first coat of red mahogany (which was actually more brown than red) on the cabs.
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After half a day..... I applied the second coat of red mahogany stain.
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The following day, I applied a different stain, this time, an ebony stain. This would provide me with a brown-black mixed look. Dark on some spots but with a nice touch of brown..
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Finally, I applied my first coat of sanding sealer... This sealed in the stain, ready to be clearcoated....or I'll just go ahead and cover it with tolex. However, I'm really liking how the cabs look now. Dark and has that antique furniture vibe. I'll probably clear coat it just to preserve this look..
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7441_zpslqav8nxh.jpg)
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Ako rin, Chino! Gusto ko magpagawa ng combo amp shell sayo for a 4x10! :)
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Ako rin, Chino! Gusto ko magpagawa ng combo amp shell sayo for a 4x10! :)
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Feeling ko malapit niyo na ako mapa-oo. Haha! Just sorting out the stuff and costing siguro, tapos pwede na natin pag usapan. :)
Curious ako bro, anong 4x10 combo yan? Fender Bassman? Peavey Classic 50?
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Well, I'm building a D-style amp that i'd like to house in the said 4x10 open back. I like the projection kasi of Fender Super Reverb cabs kasi e.
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Chino, how about modding a class5 to have a 12"? :)
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mukhang may malalapitan na ako pag nagka budget na rin ako pang cabinet. :wink:
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Chino, how about modding a class5 to have a 12"? :)
Greg, pasabay kung pupunta ka kina Chino! Wala akong tsikot e, lol!
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Well, I'm building a D-style amp that i'd like to house in the said 4x10 open back. I like the projection kasi of Fender Super Reverb cabs kasi e.
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Nice! That sounds like fun. Dapat yata jan pine cab/enclosure na open back. :D :D
Chino, how about modding a class5 to have a 12"? :)
Idol Greg, tingin ko possible yan. Pero sukatin muna natin just to be sure. In some cases, marami room sa baffle at sa mismong enclosure para yung butas na lang ng baffle ang lakihan. Or pwede rin gumawa ng bagong baffle to accomodate the 12" speaker. Pero yun nga, sukatin muna natin. Di kasi ako familiar sa positioning ng insides ng Class 5. :)
mukhang may malalapitan na ako pag nagka budget na rin ako pang cabinet. :wink:
Ok siya if you have a spare speaker that needs a cab. :) or if you need a cab with a particular dimension na wala sa mga readily available cabs natin dito sa Pinas. :)
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Update...
Countersunk a portion of the baffle to flush mount my t-nuts for mounting the speaker. :)
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Test fitting.....
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Almost there..... not yet decided on how I'll mount my 1/4" jacks so I haven't routed holes on the back panel yet.
Next step will be finishing the speaker grill mount.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7496_zpsbbhyvdli.jpg)
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Update.. Almost done.. nearing completion.. :)
I opted to go for single input/output jacks for the cab. I checked the incoming head and it has a provision for two 8ohms cabs simultaneously. Since both of my speakers are 8ohms, I can just run them together with the head. :)
For this build, I'm using a stereo locking jack.
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I used crimps for the ease of speaker installation and replacement in case I would want to. I really don't want to solder the wires onto the speaker tabs themselves.
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Yeey! Got me a Mesa CL-80 (Celestion Classic Lead 80).. :drool:
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The other cab will house my Hellatone 60 (Celestion Vintage 30). :-D
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7524_zpsam1wowkr.jpg)
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A couple of back shots..
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I don't mind them being "naked" cabs. I think they look alright.. But sooner or later, I'll still be covering them for a total clean look.
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Fully working and useable as of now. :)
Still trying to come up with a good design for the front grill....
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7532_zps2azwaz2a.jpg)
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Fully working and useable as of now. :)
Still trying to come up with a good design for the front grill....
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7532_zps2azwaz2a.jpg)
Aylabet! Those would sound sweet in stereo! Mesa wicker grill cloth would be the best choice for them I think.
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Totally newbie question. Pwede bang rekta dyan ang mga amp sim, be it analog or digital? Ala Tech21 Power Engine.
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Thanks bro. Hope to meet you soon as well. You still have your DSR? I'm itching for a vintage Fender again.. Probably a 50w Blackface Bassman.. :drool:
Hey bro.. I only have one speaker in my reserve so it will most definitely go to one of the cabs.. The other one is an extra build.. A friend of mine has first dibs with it, pero no pressure kung kunin niya or not after ko matapos pareho.. If di niya kunin and you want to check it out, I'd be more than willing. :)
Yep still rockin' the dual showman. T-nuts and spade connectors are a good thing for your builds, man. On my cabs I remember they were hard to find, but once you have a source, you wonder how earlier builds went by without them. Another thing is the speaker jack plate, making it look good is worth it, especially if you mix and match frequently. It also helps if you want more than one jack so you have versatility with daisy chaining or different impedance wiring options.
BTW, if you were going for varnish, perhaps next time try hardwoods? Makes for more beautiful joinery also if you're going for that look. I always thought plywood, MDF, etc lends itself well to tolex, but you can get mixed results with finish. Suggestion also, since some woods take stain rather unevenly and it's hard to balance out the color. Try filling in the pores with a clear first, and apply stain as a glaze. Concept is you have a barrier first then stain+clear mix goes over it as one color layer.
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Totally newbie question. Pwede bang rekta dyan ang mga amp sim, be it analog or digital? Ala Tech21 Power Engine.
Walang power amp sir. Mahina siya.
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Totally newbie question. Pwede bang rekta dyan ang mga amp sim, be it analog or digital? Ala Tech21 Power Engine.
Negative sir.. Walang power amp eh.. Kung sa PA terms, passive lang ito.. :)
Yep still rockin' the dual showman. T-nuts and spade connectors are a good thing for your builds, man. On my cabs I remember they were hard to find, but once you have a source, you wonder how earlier builds went by without them. Another thing is the speaker jack plate, making it look good is worth it, especially if you mix and match frequently. It also helps if you want more than one jack so you have versatility with daisy chaining or different impedance wiring options.
BTW, if you were going for varnish, perhaps next time try hardwoods? Makes for more beautiful joinery also if you're going for that look. I always thought plywood, MDF, etc lends itself well to tolex, but you can get mixed results with finish. Suggestion also, since some woods take stain rather unevenly and it's hard to balance out the color. Try filling in the pores with a clear first, and apply stain as a glaze. Concept is you have a barrier first then stain+clear mix goes over it as one color layer.
Yup. T-nuts and spade connectors are heaven sent! :D
I'm going to cover them with tolex soon bro. I just tinkered with the idea of staining them before applying sanding sealer. So they won't look too naked.
Next time, I'll probably use hardwoods. Solid pine comes to mind for a nice open back 1x12. :)
Interesting that you mentioned applying the sealer first before the actual stain.. in my experience, pag na-seal ko na yung kahoy, ayaw n kumapit ng stain.. hahaha!
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Nice build! Congrats!
You have my address na, right? :lol:
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Nice build! Thanks for sharing!
BTW, Where will you be sourcing your tolex bro? Is it available locally?
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So pretty, huhuhuhu.
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Nice build! Congrats!
You have my address na, right? :lol:
Yup! :-D
Nice build! Thanks for sharing!
BTW, Where will you be sourcing your tolex bro? Is it available locally?
Probably sa mga local upholsetry shops lang. It's actually different from the tolex used sa mga amps, pero it will do.. wala yata available locally na tolex na pang amp talaga. Need to order pa sa abroad.
So pretty, huhuhuhu.
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Bro, we actually put it thru its paces today and yesterday. We used a Laney IRT Studio head. If I must say, ang ganda ng tunog and it can hold its own with th big boys. :-)
Will be uploading a video soon.
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Would love to test my head amp build on those cabs!
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Would love to test my head amp build on those cabs!
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Feel free to visit our place. Or if mapapadaan ako sa area niyo, I'll let you know so I can bring the cab for you to try out.. :)
Pero both cabs, although similarly built, sound different kasi magkaiba speaker. Malaking factor pa rin yung voice ng speaker and goes hand in hand with the design and dimensions of the cab. :)
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Of course, of course. Will definitely visit when I get the time. The head cab is at Pinoy Penguin studios along Kamuning now and if you rehearse there, just ask for the blue amp and he'll show it to you. :) Feel free to test drive your cab on it!
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Hey guys, if you're looking for birch plywood you can try here: http://www.filtratimber.com/
Their facebook page popped in my news feed and upon a friend's inquiry they said they have these sizes in BB/C grade:
3mm x 1525mm x 1525mm
6mm x 1220 x 2440mm
12mm x 1220 x 2440mm
18mm x 1525 x 1830mm
Price for the 18mm board is 3700 plus vat. That's the only price I know dahil yan lang tinanong ng friend ko. Office nila sa 5F Yupangco building. Of all places!
Happy building!
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Of course, of course. Will definitely visit when I get the time. The head cab is at Pinoy Penguin studios along Kamuning now and if you rehearse there, just ask for the blue amp and he'll show it to you. :) Feel free to test drive your cab on it!
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Alrighty!! :wave:
Hey guys, if you're looking for birch plywood you can try here: http://www.filtratimber.com/
Their facebook page popped in my news feed and upon a friend's inquiry they said they have these sizes in BB/C grade:
3mm x 1525mm x 1525mm
6mm x 1220 x 2440mm
12mm x 1220 x 2440mm
18mm x 1525 x 1830mm
Price for the 18mm board is 3700 plus vat. That's the only price I know dahil yan lang tinanong ng friend ko. Office nila sa 5F Yupangco building. Of all places!
Happy building!
Bro, thank you for the info.. This is gold for DIYers.. :) But wow, 3700 plus vat for a 5'x6' board.. it's definitely on the premium side.. Halos times 3 ang presyo compared sa usual marine plywood. Need to seriously hone woodworking chops and utilize my tools better before jumping on these.
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Hey bro... I've actually been getting a few inquiries already.. Maybe, just maybe, it can push through.. Tapusin ko lang muna itong cab builds ko ngayon so I can sort out the costing.
Still a lot of problem with supplies lalo na pag finishing na.. Tolex, grill cloth, metal coners, etc.. So dun lang talaga sa part na yun magkakatalo, kung ok ba sayo na naka tolex pa or bare (painted) na lang. Hehe.
Pero tingnan natin how my current builds hold up when done. I'll be more than willing for you guys to try out my builds muna bago kayo magpagawa. Haha. :wave:
alright! let me know bro kung ready ka na mag accept hehe. May 2x10 ako dito na vertical, pa re-house ko soon sayo hehe. t
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Ang ganda :drool: :drool:
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How much would this project costs? I have a 212 with mix speakers and I love it's tone now, but curiosity and finding out the sound in 112 is gaining on me...eminence screaming eagle and the governor btw
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alright! let me know bro kung ready ka na mag accept hehe. May 2x10 ako dito na vertical, pa re-house ko soon sayo hehe. t
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Ang ganda :drool: :drool:
Thanks, Jan!
How much would this project costs? I have a 212 with mix speakers and I love it's tone now, but curiosity and finding out the sound in 112 is gaining on me...eminence screaming eagle and the governor btw
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With my last computation, my materials and consumables we're already roughly at the 3,500 mark per cabinet.
Not much update as of late..been out of town the past week and was busy with other stuff. Still waiting for the covering for the amp and finding a suitable grill cloth to complete the look.
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Fired up the cabs a few weeks ago on our mini tone party. Will be uploading a video. We used a Laney IRT Studio for a head. :)
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AGGGH when are you going to offer this as a service, ahahaha! I'm thinking of having the head amp I built rehoused in an open back 4x10 style cab.
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Multi-stacked squarish cabs look awesome! They sure would have saved me some space in my cramped cubicle vs. my rectangular cabs!
Fully working and useable as of now. :)
Still trying to come up with a good design for the front grill....
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_7535_zpszitskbhd.jpg)
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AGGGH when are you going to offer this as a service, ahahaha! I'm thinking of having the head amp I built rehoused in an open back 4x10 style cab.
Hahahahaha!! You have speakers na for the cab sir? Mahirap ata mag source out ng 10" guitar speakers dito sa atin.. :cry:
Multi-stacked squarish cabs look awesome! They sure would have saved me some space in my cramped cubicle vs. my rectangular cabs!
Yup! That's how Mesa designed it.. :)
One cab, I actually flipped so it'll be more rectangular. My plans changed and I'm using it with a head that matches the longer side of the cab.. :)
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Sir, saan ka nakabili ng handle ng cab?
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Sir, saan ka nakabili ng handle ng cab?
Sa Audiophile sir. Parang nasa 110php bawat isa. :)
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I'll probably use the Crown JackHammer series. Really heavy speakers but they sound pretty good. My theory is that they modeled it after the Electro-Voice EVM series.
Hahahahaha!! You have speakers na for the cab sir? Mahirap ata mag source out ng 10" guitar speakers dito sa atin.. :cry:
Yup! That's how Mesa designed it.. :)
One cab, I actually flipped so it'll be more rectangular. My plans changed and I'm using it with a head that matches the longer side of the cab.. :)
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The head for the cabs has finally arrived... :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/rectoverb25_zpsajk1le2x.jpg)
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The head for the cabs has finally arrived... :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/rectoverb25_zpsajk1le2x.jpg)
Nice! Does it have output jacks for each speaker? Congrats man!
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Nice! Does it have output jacks for each speaker? Congrats man!
Yes bro. You can run two 8 ohm cabs simultaneously. :)
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Where will you buy grill cloth for your cabs?
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Where will you buy grill cloth for your cabs?
Not yet decided if I'll order abroad, use regular cotton cloths, or improvise with other materials.. Been slow with these cab projects lately.. Coz I'm already using them as is in my room. Haha! Still waiting for my tolex/leatherette to cover them before I actually proceed to the next step which is the grill.
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Hey men, sorry to hijack your thread.
But can I use kind of cloth like cotton or anything thick fabric? Will that affect the sound or air movement?
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Hey men, sorry to hijack your thread.
But can I use kind of cloth like cotton or anything thick fabric? Will that affect the sound or air movement?
Cloth must be sonically transparent. Raise the cloth against the light. You should see what is on the other side.
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can i ask? magkano sir pagawa ng ganyan? mga 1x12? hehehe thanks po!
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Worst case scenario , I wanna put aluminum screens na lang para madali i-source. Pwede din namang weave parang yung nasa party rattan chairs.
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Hey men, sorry to hijack your thread.
But can I use kind of cloth like cotton or anything thick fabric? Will that affect the sound or air movement?
No worries bro.. On my very first build, I bought a cotton cloth (black...with white straipes para hindi plain looking). It wasn't too thick, pero hindi rin too thin. Tinupi ko siya para magdouble yung kapal then stretched it very tightly against the baffle para hindi siya mag droop or mag sag or mangulubot.
I believe, magiging sobrang laki lang ng effect ng cotton kung sobrang kapal na.. think twalya. Pero hindi naman siguro natin para lagyan ng twalya yung harap ng cab. Haha!
For me, it's more of protection sa mismong speaker from dust and outside elements na pwedeng maka damage sa speaker cone. :)
can i ask? magkano sir pagawa ng ganyan? mga 1x12? hehehe thanks po!
Hindi pa po ako nagttake ng orders sir.. Pero if ever, you may be looking at around 6-8k for an unloaded 1x12 cabinet.
Worst case scenario , I wanna put aluminum screens na lang para madali i-source. Pwede din namang weave parang yung nasa party rattan chairs.
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Black cotton cloth + aluminum screens! \m/
Iniisip ko na yang aluminum screen (diamond pattern) nung isang araw. Was looking at one of our doors very closely. As for the rattan chair weave (sulihiya), mixed emotions ako.. I've tried inquiring before sa mga local sulihiya makers sa furniture shops, may required design and thickness sila nung mismong pagmmountan nung sulihiya eh.. Kasi malakas daw tension nun pag ginagawa so important na dapat matibay yung frame.. On a cabinet point of view, hindi masyado maganda to go that route kasi papanget lalo itsura with the oversized and thick grill frame..
May nabibili sa labas ng bansa na sulihiya mats na pwede gamitin at ikabit sa grill. Mas ok yun.. Kaso I don't want to spend too much for that.. Looking at more economical options na similarly effective.. :)
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Ayos siguro ang Pashmina. Hehehe. Hihingi ako kay misis yun medyo makapal at okay ang designs.
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Hey Chino,
Just an idea and looking for you're opinion re: grill cover alternatives:
How about black porous sponge-like materials? I remember some high-end hi-fi speaker cabinets in the 80s having them.
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Hey Chino,
Just an idea and looking for you're opinion re: grill cover alternatives:
How about black porous sponge-like materials? I remember some high-end hi-fi speaker cabinets in the 80s having them.
I have no idea where to get them bro. Hahahaha! Pero may naiisip na akong pwedeng pang front look ng cab na ito. :)
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Re: grill, you can try perforated (think Carvin Legacy 3 but without the funky pattern) or expanded (Carvin Legacy 1) steel sheets. May nakikita ako sa OLX at suppliers sa yellow pages.
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Been a long project. Busy towards mid year up until the last quarter. But I managed to finish the cabs around late November.
Slapped a Mesa MC-90 (Celestion Classic Lead 80) in it and she screams with my other heads. Currently using it as a 1x12 cab for a 1987 Marshall Lead 12. Thinking of converting the Marshall combo to a matching head when time permits. :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1870_zpsiraj0lzp.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1870_zpsiraj0lzp.jpg.html)
Tough luck... Ran out of cream tolex, so I had to use what's left that's available; gray.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1871_zpsyoe8ruat.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1871_zpsyoe8ruat.jpg.html)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1873_zpspy5xkhm7.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1873_zpspy5xkhm7.jpg.html)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1874_zpshfb1ctgr.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1874_zpshfb1ctgr.jpg.html)
Paisley for my grille cloth.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1878_zpshn8t3c7c.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1878_zpshn8t3c7c.jpg.html)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1880_zpsyvsmkint.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1880_zpsyvsmkint.jpg.html)
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Lol nung isang araw lang sinilip ko tong thread na to for ideas, nagbabalak pa lang irehouse yung lumang amp ko(naka confine kay mang raul).
☝🏻️Ang ganda nyang cream cab mo boss chino. Saan ka nakakuha ng ganyang tolex?
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Ganda talaga ng mga gawa mo Chino!
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Ganda, Chino! Bagay sa amp ko! Christmas gift mo sakin? :-D
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Lol nung isang araw lang sinilip ko tong thread na to for ideas, nagbabalak pa lang irehouse yung lumang amp ko(naka confine kay mang raul).
☝🏻️Ang ganda nyang cream cab mo boss chino. Saan ka nakakuha ng ganyang tolex?
Nice! Meron sa Divi at Raon ng mga "leatherette", gamit sa upholstery. Pwede na siya gamitin for covering, pero hanapin mo yung mejo makapal sir.
Ganda talaga ng mga gawa mo Chino!
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Thank you sir Marco. Last na muna ito for now. Yung 2x12 na slant naka tengga pa rin. Hahaha. Iniisip ko gawin na lang sya na 2x10 pero di ko alam san may magandang 10" locally.
Ganda, Chino! Bagay sa amp ko! Christmas gift mo sakin? :-D
Jojo, anong amp mo ngayon? Punta ka LB minsan! Jam (noodling) tayo nina Ray V. :wave:
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Jojo, anong amp mo ngayon? Punta ka LB minsan! Jam (noodling) tayo nina Ray V. :wave:
I still have the same ones, bro. Para kasing nawala na ang GAS ko during the past 2 years. Seriously. Will inform you guys in advance kung papunta ako dyan.
Re: your paisley grill cloth - Is that tela only? I really like the way it looks.
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sir, gumamit ka ba ng masilya? ano recommended mo?
at anong braces ang ginamit mo? just the regular half inch by half inch?
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I still have the same ones, bro. Para kasing nawala na ang GAS ko during the past 2 years. Seriously. Will inform you guys in advance kung papunta ako dyan.
Re: your paisley grill cloth - Is that tela only? I really like the way it looks.
Yes, it's tela wrapped over the removable grill frame.. Tatlong patong ito na stetched very well para magkaroon ng kapal at stiffness.
Medyo lie low rin ang GAS ko though may pasulpot-sulpot every now and then, just to kill the monotony. :-D
sir, gumamit ka ba ng masilya? ano recommended mo?
at anong braces ang ginamit mo? just the regular half inch by half inch?
Yes, I do. Just to fill the small voids and dents sa wood, para pag binalutan or nilagyan ko ng sealer ay closer to flat yung surface. Try mo sir yung ready to apply na wood filler ng Elmer's. Ok rin yun if you plan on covering the cab later on.
For braces, masyado maliit sir and 1/2 x 1/2 inch.. at least 1 x 1 inch or 1 1/2 x 1 inch.. best kung meron 1 1/2 x 1 1/2 inch.
Pero actually, pag naka dovetail joints ka na, di na masyado kailangan ng braces. YKahit yun na lang for the speaker baffle and back panel(s). Haha. Habit ko na lang siguro lagyan pa rin for the extra assurance. Saka sayang yung mga tirang kahoy. :lol:
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yes yun brace for baffle and back panel lang. iniisip ko kse baka bumigat na yun uno por uno.
baka makascore ako ng marine playwood kse at dahil mawawalan ako ng trabaho meaning maraming free time eh iproject ko na lang ganito. ang problema ko lang wala ako bandsaw para pantay ang pagkahahati ng plywood.
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yes yun brace for baffle and back panel lang. iniisip ko kse baka bumigat na yun uno por uno.
baka makascore ako ng marine playwood kse at dahil mawawalan ako ng trabaho meaning maraming free time eh iproject ko na lang ganito. ang problema ko lang wala ako bandsaw para pantay ang pagkahahati ng plywood.
Problem rin kasi if masyado maliit yung brace, ang hirap naman pakapitan ng screw from the baffle and back panel. Too close na kasi sa edge.
Ok lang yan sir. Wala rin ako bandsaw or jigsaw. Pero mas mapapabilis nga ang trabaho kung meron. or better, table saw. :wave:
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ganda naman papi! pro na pro po!
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Been a long project. Busy towards mid year up until the last quarter. But I managed to finish the cabs around late November.
Slapped a Mesa MC-90 (Celestion Classic Lead 80) in it and she screams with my other heads. Currently using it as a 1x12 cab for a 1987 Marshall Lead 12. Thinking of converting the Marshall combo to a matching head when time permits. :)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1870_zpsiraj0lzp.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1870_zpsiraj0lzp.jpg.html)
Tough luck... Ran out of cream tolex, so I had to use what's left that's available; gray.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1871_zpsyoe8ruat.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1871_zpsyoe8ruat.jpg.html)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1873_zpspy5xkhm7.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1873_zpspy5xkhm7.jpg.html)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1874_zpshfb1ctgr.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1874_zpshfb1ctgr.jpg.html)
Paisley for my grille cloth.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1878_zpshn8t3c7c.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1878_zpshn8t3c7c.jpg.html)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/reichinopua/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1880_zpsyvsmkint.jpg) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/reichinopua/media/1x12%20Mesa%20Recto%20cab%20build/DSC_1880_zpsyvsmkint.jpg.html)
ginalingan eh.. :)
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Thanks bro. Eto na pala sya ngayon.. Finished look. Naglagay ako ng badge bearing my father's nickname. :-)
(http://imgur.com/qcWLHKp.jpg)
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Ugh ang ganda nung v port
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@chino
Finishing up a super lead MKII inspired head and it needs a 4x10 cab hehehe
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Ugh ang ganda nung v port
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Thanks bro. :D
@chino
Finishing up a super lead MKII inspired head and it needs a 4x10 cab hehehe
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Haha usap nga ulit tayo sa viber. :-)