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Title: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: lockzackary on August 24, 2016, 08:19:31 AM
gasgas na siguro yung phrase na The Show Must Go On

and yes, kailangan panindigan.

pero what would you do kapag absent yung Lead Guitarist (or core member for that matter)?

sa banda kasi namin, may Keyboard, Bass, Drums, ako yung Acoustic, tapos Electric (usually pang lead lang)

in my opinion, it would be my responsibility na saluhin yung "kulang" pag walang electric.
ang problema lang siguro hindi ko kaya mag-adapt on the spot, kasi sa rehearsals present yung lead.

i guess yung question ko eh, paano gagawing buo parin yung tunog kapag biglaang nawala yung isang member and nasa gig na?

thank you po sa mga tips mga masters
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: red lights on August 24, 2016, 08:28:39 AM


opinyon ko dito do your rhythm part chief, tingin ko mas buo pa din ang tunog kung may rhythm at bass, kaysa sa lead at bass, mas dinig ang butas/kulang ng pyesa, and since may keyboardist kayo, let the keys do the adlibs. opinyon ko lang naman
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: lockzackary on August 24, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
ay opo, nag rhythm naman ako kaso nakulangan parin ako sa tunog (kakilala ko kasi yung soundman and may record kami nung gig)
medyo walang dating :|

Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 24, 2016, 12:27:49 PM
DO what you are doing. wag mo saluhin yung leadista. yung Keyboardist niyo ang pagsaluhin mo. have him/her use a thicker patch para mas maging buo ang tunog.

may 2 ways to go about this eh.

pwedeng magaadjust si keyboardist ng patch para mas full sounding na siya, tapos mag lead guitar ka na.

or

adjust ka ng tunog mo para maging full sounding rhythm ka, then have the keyboardist play the lead parts.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Bart on August 24, 2016, 01:00:37 PM
Do it like Beck (Mongolian Chop Squad).
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: marcus_gloom on August 24, 2016, 01:25:46 PM
Learn the lead parts. The band may just go on without your lead guitarist. Usual naman yung isa lang ang guitarist
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: inexperience on August 24, 2016, 01:35:29 PM
Mag cocover kayo ng song tapos praktis na praktis kayo ng stairway to heaven na may super extended solo. tas ayan na magsosolo na, tas nabitin yung audience.haha problema yan.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: lockzackary on August 25, 2016, 11:05:49 AM
Mag cocover kayo ng song tapos praktis na praktis kayo ng stairway to heaven na may super extended solo. tas ayan na magsosolo na, tas nabitin yung audience.haha problema yan.

ayun parang ganito nga po

iba parin kasi talaga tunog ng electric yung ginamit pag lead eh

i guess i just have to learn electric para sa mga ganitong times :|
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: red lights on August 25, 2016, 11:22:05 AM
ayun parang ganito nga po

iba parin kasi talaga tunog ng electric yung ginamit pag lead eh

i guess i just have to learn electric para sa mga ganitong times :|


wala naman difference kung sa pagplay lang ang acoustic at electric, mas madali pa nga sa electric dahil mas mababa ang strings nito. wala ka ba electric?
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: CeL1916 on August 27, 2016, 12:25:19 AM
Tuloy ka lang, unless may special part yung lead guitarist na kailangan saluhin dun ka mag improvise pero kung ako nasa sitwasyon tuloy lang ako sa pinraktis tapos konting sundot.

Unless ang tinutugtog niyo eh my iconic/specific solo like sweet child of mine, di na mapapansin ng casual listeners yan.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: xaeroblade on August 27, 2016, 07:57:10 AM
IMO it is good that to stick to your parts, but it wouldn't hurt to learn the lead parts as well. In a way part of the learning process sya to improve na ren ang skillset.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Rayel.Baruela on August 27, 2016, 01:31:50 PM
ang masasabe ku lang do it your part kahit wala yung leadista nyo, wag kalang sasablay , para may magandang output ng performance kahit kulang. its time to shine also. syempre nag jajam naman kayo sa studio. why dont you try to practice also the lead part since rhythm ka. pag alam mo din ang lead part pede mo silang pag haluin on the spot. ganun kasi ginagawa ko nung dating rhythm pako. minsan di nakapag practice si lead so ako may practice din ako sa lead so napapag halo ko talaga , perfect timing lang kung san ka dapat mag lead oh ipasok or mag switch ng lead from your rhythm part. :)
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: ijoejit on September 02, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
Prioritize your 'part' sa rhythm. Kung may chance na mag improvise sa ibang parts, go on. Pero wag ka masyadong lalayo sa poste mo.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: lockzackary on June 21, 2017, 02:02:26 PM

wala naman difference kung sa pagplay lang ang acoustic at electric, mas madali pa nga sa electric dahil mas mababa ang strings nito. wala ka ba electric?

wala po e

di ko din feel mag-invest kasi i feel like minsan ko lang naman siya gagamitin :D
tapos feel ko wala na din ako time mag-aral pero honestly tinatamad lang din siguro ako
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Fledwor on June 21, 2017, 02:26:35 PM
wala po e

di ko din feel mag-invest kasi i feel like minsan ko lang naman siya gagamitin :D
tapos feel ko wala na din ako time mag-aral pero honestly tinatamad lang din siguro ako

mag electric guitar ka na din papi or hybrid then kapag present si lead guitarist mag acoustic pedal ka na lang
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Skybox on June 21, 2017, 02:37:37 PM
wala po e

di ko din feel mag-invest kasi i feel like minsan ko lang naman siya gagamitin :D
tapos feel ko wala na din ako time mag-aral pero honestly tinatamad lang din siguro ako

Lakas maka necro-bump nito ah.  :lol:

Uso pa ba ang "Lead Guitarist" hanggang ngayon? Akala ko nung kabataan ko lang. Naaalala ko yung "mas magaling" sa dalawang gitarista ang automatic na "Lead Guitar" tapos yung hindi ganun kagaling eh "Rhythm" haha. Nowadays may ganun pa ba? One would think na with the onset of technology and with information right at your fingertips parang wala nang excuse maging "Rhythm" guitarist lang at yung "Lead" lang ang nakakagawa ng technical stuff.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Screamous on June 21, 2017, 02:49:43 PM
Lakas maka necro-bump nito ah.  :lol:

Uso pa ba ang "Lead Guitarist" hanggang ngayon? Akala ko nung kabataan ko lang. Naaalala ko yung "mas magaling" sa dalawang gitarista ang automatic na "Lead Guitar" tapos yung hindi ganun kagaling eh "Rhythm" haha. Nowadays may ganun pa ba? One would think na with the onset of technology and with information right at your fingertips parang wala nang excuse maging "Rhythm" guitarist lang at yung "Lead" lang ang nakakagawa ng technical stuff.

noong college days, wherein yung naging kabanda ko (for fun)
yung naging guitar tutor ko sinabihan ako (sya kasi usually gumagawa ng lead parts),

"wag mo i-consider ang lead at rhythm, it'll come along, what we need to emphasize sa banda is
guitar 1 and guitar 2 pag usapan natin kung anong part ang gusto mong kunin prior sa full band practice, then we'll stick to that, kung kaya mo yung lead then i'll do the rhythm, that way mwla man isa satin, or may ma late, pedeng may sumalo, mpa rhythm part o lead part"
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: lockzackary on June 21, 2017, 03:31:19 PM
ah yung prob ko actually eh wala akong gear :D

nainvest ko lahat sa acoustic equipment haha

and since weekend guitarist lang naman ako, it's really not my priority sa budget


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medyo necro bump nga pero, problem parin namin slightly dun sa banda namin

i can say nagimprove naman ako since last year :D

although ang nipis talaga ng tunog namin pag wala yung electric hehehe
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: titser_marco on June 21, 2017, 08:49:17 PM
If you have a solid rhythm section, the lead guitar player becomes a nice to have.

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Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Skybox on June 21, 2017, 09:03:38 PM
noong college days, wherein yung naging kabanda ko (for fun)
yung naging guitar tutor ko sinabihan ako (sya kasi usually gumagawa ng lead parts),

"wag mo i-consider ang lead at rhythm, it'll come along, what we need to emphasize sa banda is
guitar 1 and guitar 2 pag usapan natin kung anong part ang gusto mong kunin prior sa full band practice, then we'll stick to that, kung kaya mo yung lead then i'll do the rhythm, that way mwla man isa satin, or may ma late, pedeng may sumalo, mpa rhythm part o lead part"

Mismo!
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: nicoyow on June 21, 2017, 09:19:27 PM
to add. a solid rhythm section doesn't mean guitar only. it also need a good foundation. e.g. bass and drums. stick with the tempo and everything will be alright. guitar solo parts and hooks are just accessories to make the song more beautiful. still the tempo and melody is important.

 :-D
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: xaeroblade on June 21, 2017, 09:22:12 PM
noong college days, wherein yung naging kabanda ko (for fun)
yung naging guitar tutor ko sinabihan ako (sya kasi usually gumagawa ng lead parts),

"wag mo i-consider ang lead at rhythm, it'll come along, what we need to emphasize sa banda is
guitar 1 and guitar 2 pag usapan natin kung anong part ang gusto mong kunin prior sa full band practice, then we'll stick to that, kung kaya mo yung lead then i'll do the rhythm, that way mwla man isa satin, or may ma late, pedeng may sumalo, mpa rhythm part o lead part"
This pretty much sums everything up.

At mukhang medyo active ang band ni TS so it won't hurt to have even some basic gear na d masakit sa bulsa.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Screamous on June 22, 2017, 09:37:13 AM
ah yung prob ko actually eh wala akong gear :D

nainvest ko lahat sa acoustic equipment haha

and since weekend guitarist lang naman ako, it's really not my priority sa budget


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medyo necro bump nga pero, problem parin namin slightly dun sa banda namin

i can say nagimprove naman ako since last year :D

although ang nipis talaga ng tunog namin pag wala yung electric hehehe

i suggest mag invest ka siguro sa kahit mura na gear?
say merong tajima sa guitar pusher? pde din RJ, SX o fernando?
tapos kung effects, may snsbi sila na swiss army knife na pedal yung zoom ms50g,

10-12k? Guitar and Zoom MS50G, (may kakilala din kasi ako na ganyan ang setup e hehe)
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 22, 2017, 09:49:28 AM
If you have a solid rhythm section, the lead guitar player becomes a nice to have.

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This.
Title: Re: Paano pag biglang absent yung Lead Guitarist?
Post by: lockzackary on June 22, 2017, 02:15:30 PM
thanks sa advice mga papi

matagal ko na din pinagpapantasyahan bumili ng chapman ML3, budget constraints lang talaga

kasi bukod dun, nagiipon din ako for my pc parts (which is more important for me, kasi ginagamit ko yun for work that pays)

pero sabi nga, walang excuse kung gusto talaga

so i guess, i'll just have to make it a goal before the year ends :D