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Title: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: iScreamCake0126 on March 01, 2017, 01:21:43 PM
Good day fellow musicians,

I am in need of help on how to determine whether my bacchus tele is a fake one. Got it from a trade, the first owner said that it doesn't have a serial number because it was manufactured here in the Philippines particularly in cavite. Honestly I do not care at first because it feels good for me and I thought that I would not be selling this but unfortunately I have to due to medical fees. I don't want to sell fake or copies that is why I am in need of your help. Thank you guys

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Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: gandydancer123 on March 01, 2017, 02:19:16 PM
might be tough, but maybe we can try to trace its lineage..from seller, or who he got it from etc..good luck..waiting for the pics..
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: CeL1916 on March 01, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Baka naman hindi siya part ng bacchus production kaya walang serial. Baka itinakas lang palabas ng company bago pa matatakan, pero still made by them. Kasi kung ako lang, may peke ba na bacchus? Kung magaabala ako mangfake edi fender or gibson sana mas madali pa ibenta.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: Skybox on March 01, 2017, 03:57:46 PM
Why would they though?
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: iScreamCake0126 on March 01, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
Why would they though?
I dont know I just find it strange na walang serial number. I just want  to make sure na di fake ang mabenta ko.

might be tough, but maybe we can try to trace its lineage..from seller, or who he got it from etc..good luck..waiting for the pics..
I will upload it soon pagkauwi ko later :D

Baka naman hindi siya part ng bacchus production kaya walang serial. Baka itinakas lang palabas ng company bago pa matatakan, pero still made by them. Kasi kung ako lang, may peke ba na bacchus? Kung magaabala ako mangfake edi fender or gibson sana mas madali pa ibenta.
Mejo naisip ko din to sir pero i just want to make sure na authentic yung bebenta ko. Ayoko din po kasi masabihang fraud. Plus wala din ako kasing mahanap na exact model na under ng "Craft Series". Possible ba na iba yung selector ng pick up niya from the ones na under ng series niya? Thanks :)
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: nicoyow on March 02, 2017, 12:02:34 AM
May body contour sir?
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: Van* on March 02, 2017, 12:54:24 AM
Sell it as is. Put a price then disclose everything you know about it. If it plays and sounds good, I wouldn't care kung orig or peke yan.

Unless you're asking way too much.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: nicoyow on March 02, 2017, 01:05:10 AM
^I'm checking Bacchus Teles on their website Craft Series. The differences I see are body contour, headstock and PUP config. The Craft series doesn't have the P90 on neck model.

The model that matches the headstock and PUP configuration are the Standard Series but the neck bolt on plate is not present. Universe series also have the same headstock but doesn't have the body contour and same PUP configuration.  I added photos so that every one can see the diff. The serial most probably located at the back of the headstock.

Here's the photo I saw.

Standard series
(http://i.imgur.com/eO1cEC6.jpg)

Craft series
(http://i.imgur.com/Qrd0no1.jpg)

Universe series
(http://i.imgur.com/Y4mSXqa.jpg)

However... If you're going to sell it, Pm me the price  :-D
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: iScreamCake0126 on March 02, 2017, 09:12:37 AM
Sell it as is. Put a price then disclose everything you know about it. If it plays and sounds good, I wouldn't care kung orig or peke yan.

Unless you're asking way too much.
Thanks for the advice. :) im thinking about the price. Got it from a 15k trade value

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Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: jannten on March 02, 2017, 09:47:24 AM
ayos to. meron ako nung Made in Phil. hehe
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: iScreamCake0126 on March 02, 2017, 09:52:46 AM
ayos to. meron ako nung Made in Phil. hehe
San niyo nabili sir? Haha

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Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: iScreamCake0126 on March 02, 2017, 09:55:18 AM
^I'm checking Bacchus Teles on their website Craft Series. The differences I see are body contour, headstock and PUP config. The Craft series doesn't have the P90 on neck model.

The model that matches the headstock and PUP configuration are the Standard Series but the neck bolt on plate is not present. Universe series also have the same headstock but doesn't have the body contour and same PUP configuration.  I added photos so that every one can see the diff. The serial most probably located at the back of the headstock.

Here's the photo I saw.

Standard series
(http://i.imgur.com/eO1cEC6.jpg)

Craft series
(http://i.imgur.com/Qrd0no1.jpg)

Universe series
(http://i.imgur.com/Y4mSXqa.jpg)

However... If you're going to sell it, Pm me the price  :-D
Hi sir. PMed you. May contour po siya

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Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: jannten on March 02, 2017, 09:58:20 AM
San niyo nabili sir? Haha

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nakuha ko lang din sa trade haha. Pero andun din sya sa mga models sa site eh.
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baka my nakatagong made in **** sa loob. haha
ang mahal pala nung standard series wew
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: iScreamCake0126 on March 03, 2017, 08:11:43 AM
Still dont know on how much i could sell this. Haha

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Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: shodawmoon on March 03, 2017, 02:53:20 PM
^I'm checking Bacchus Teles on their website Craft Series. The differences I see are body contour, headstock and PUP config. The Craft series doesn't have the P90 on neck model.

The model that matches the headstock and PUP configuration are the Standard Series but the neck bolt on plate is not present. Universe series also have the same headstock but doesn't have the body contour and same PUP configuration.  I added photos so that every one can see the diff. The serial most probably located at the back of the headstock.

Here's the photo I saw.

Standard series
(http://i.imgur.com/eO1cEC6.jpg)

Craft series
(http://i.imgur.com/Qrd0no1.jpg)

Universe series
(http://i.imgur.com/Y4mSXqa.jpg)

However... If you're going to sell it, Pm me the price  :-D
iba yung pickguard shape sa horn ng body ng tele ni TS dun sa pics from online. Mas matulis yung pickguard horn ng kay TS if compared.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: gandydancer123 on March 03, 2017, 03:21:30 PM
seems legit...I think its one of those mass produced bacchus for the japan or international market na parang masa model nila? parang fernando, sx, squire , style... hunch ko lang..the guitar looks nice by the way!
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: iScreamCake0126 on March 03, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
seems legit...I think its one of those mass produced bacchus for the japan or international market na parang masa model nila? parang fernando, sx, squire , style... hunch ko lang..the guitar looks nice by the way!
Thank you. :) i really dont want to sell this but need funds. Does it justify for a value of 12-14k? Or lower?

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Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: gandydancer123 on March 03, 2017, 03:33:56 PM
Thank you. :) i really dont want to sell this but need funds. Does it justify for a value of 12-14k? Or lower?

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I guess your pricepoint is fine, for the design and condition.. for sure mag haggle pa naman ang buyer, a few hundreds to a thousand..should be ok. good luck!
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: inexperience on March 03, 2017, 04:08:28 PM
Yung neck is from craft series pero yung neckplate is from universe series. Try looking again,
baka parang partscaster to. Stamped yung mga nasa craft series or could be an earlier model then they decide to improve parts of the craft series for the new production?
Title: Re: Is there anyone who knows how to spot a Fake Bacchus guitar?
Post by: nicoyow on March 03, 2017, 11:31:06 PM
Hi sir. PMed you. May contour po siya

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