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Title: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on January 21, 2007, 01:43:50 PM
Please share your ideas on how a Jazz musician should conduct himself during jam sessions,especially if one is not familiar with the others' musical background or song repertoirs; or worse, first-time jammer. :|

Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Deacon Blues on January 22, 2007, 01:28:20 AM
Respect should always be a prime consideration - respect for other people's space, equipment and the music played.

It wouldn't hurt to 'survey' the scene first, as in, get to know who the players are and the songs they play, and gauge yourself accordingly if you deem yourself 'fit' for such an environment.

Now, even if you do feel you're more than qualified to jam, make sure you politely ask any of the band members if it's ok to sit in and play a tune or two.

When you get that far enough and actually do get asked to sit in, be very, very careful with the other person's equipment (assuming you didn't bring your own guitar or bass). Which means being careful with the belt buckle or anything that could cause scratches or dents on the instrument.

Being a guest jammer usually means being the one to call the tune. For practicality, it's best to stick to familiar tunes that most players would know. Don't say, "Giant Steps in F# in 9/8!!!"

Be mindful of your volume level, especially when soloing. Leave your Spinal Tap impressions at home. Likewise for your Metal Zone pedal ..

Always take your cue from the band leader as to when to solo. The worst thing you can do is abruptly cut someone off in mid-solo.

Most important of all: keep your solos short

If you've made it through your first tune, check if the audience (and the band) is still awake. If they want to hear more from you, they'll prod you on. Otherwise, that's your cue to step down.

When you do go offstage, never fail to thank the guy you borrowed your instrument from, and the rest of the band as well - and be quick in doing so.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: tele-tubby on January 22, 2007, 01:45:06 AM
Leave your Spinal Tap impressions at home. Likewise for your Metal Zone pedal ..

haha, discrimination! :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: rodney vidanes on January 23, 2007, 03:46:49 PM
well said mr. deacon blues.  :-)
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on January 23, 2007, 10:49:12 PM
Thanks Deacon blues!

I think I've read that before in a saxophone website(?) :| but thanks!

Anyway, what if its just a casual jam where everyone doesn't know everyone,sort of an EB,you know. :|

I happen to jam with some guys kasi last december, very casual yung jam, walang particular song na tinugtog,talagang improvise. Nagstart maglagay yung bassist tapos nilagyan ko ng palo(drummer nga pala ko!)
Tapos si Lee von (Side A) ang nag gitara,tas may isang keyboardist. Bale pakiramdaman lang yung tugtugan,trip lang talaga. Bale alternate din yung mga musicians after a song or two, jamming-inuman lang naman kasi.

Ngayon, Im just curious kung kayo, usually how do you interact with other musicians sa ganitong situation(during playing)considering the fact na first time din lang kayo nag meet lahat. :-)

Share naman yung iba pa jan! Wala namang dogma dito, personal approach lang :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Deacon Blues on January 24, 2007, 12:23:14 AM
You're welcome anytime, bamm ..

So, it's an EB pala.

Looking back at my post, I just realized na parang napaka-formal pala nung mga suggestions that I came up with. I assumed that you're watching a band and jamming with them. Hindi pala.

If it's an EB thing, then anything goes! I don't really see any need for any rules because they don't apply.

Siguro, the only practical suggestion that I can offer (again) is for people to be more open about suggesting actual songs, with more creative and interesting chord changes, because ..

if you don't, it often turns out into those endless, eternal jams in A, D, or E minor, which gets boring really fast. I'm sure you know what I mean ..  :-)

Pakiramdaman is always the best way to start naman eh. But in time, I guess somebody has to give 'directions' or suggestions to everyone to get the ball rolling. Otherwise, the jam might turn out into something medyo magulo or walang direksyon. It's always nicer to hear a song with an actual intro, melody and a proper ending, diba?

Lee Von? Wow! I've heard a lot of good things about that guy. Fusion guy or something? You're obviously in good company.



Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on January 24, 2007, 07:30:37 PM
You're welcome anytime, bamm ..

So, it's an EB pala.

Looking back at my post, I just realized na parang napaka-formal pala nung mga suggestions that I came up with. I assumed that you're watching a band and jamming with them. Hindi pala.

If it's an EB thing, then anything goes! I don't really see any need for any rules because they don't apply.

Siguro, the only practical suggestion that I can offer (again) is for people to be more open about suggesting actual songs, with more creative and interesting chord changes, because ..

if you don't, it often turns out into those endless, eternal jams in A, D, or E minor, which gets boring really fast. I'm sure you know what I mean ..  :-)

Pakiramdaman is always the best way to start naman eh. But in time, I guess somebody has to give 'directions' or suggestions to everyone to get the ball rolling. Otherwise, the jam might turn out into something medyo magulo or walang direksyon. It's always nicer to hear a song with an actual intro, melody and a proper ending, diba?

Lee Von? Wow! I've heard a lot of good things about that guy. Fusion guy or something? You're obviously in good company.





Your'e right about everything you've said,bro.Thanks again!

 Bale first time ko lang kasi maki jam sa mga di ko kilala,saka ibang genre. Na intimidate na lang ako nung after one song, may pumalit na bahista, odd time yung nilagay- di ko na alam nasan yung 'one'! Mahirap na manghula, kaya pinasa ko na yung stick kay Jojo Laforteza  :lol:
Now, Im wondering kung anong impression nila about my playing. :oops:

Anyways, Lee Von is a very disciplined artist/guitarist. Marunong sya magdala ng tunog nya, kahit yung mga bassist na ka jam nya e mas maraming notang tinitipa (Im exagerrating) Hindi rin sya pa show off. Kahit ina alaska sya ng tropa na kanta ng Side A ang tugtugin!  :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on January 28, 2007, 02:07:04 PM
Ang masasabi ko lang...

PLEASE LANG, TAMA NA YUNG FUNK IN "E"... NA MAY WALANG KATAPUSANG TUTUPANK-TUTUPANK NA BASS SOLO SA DULO!!!

Tantanan na rin yung mga one-chord vamp, na walang intro, walang melody, walang form... at hindi mai-ending-ending nang maayos.

Nothing kills the mood faster than sh_t like that.

Oh... at kung tapos ka nang sumolo, wag ka nang sumolo pa ulit!

I've seen more than a couple of guitar players fall guilty of that at more than a couple of jam sessions. Yung gitarista na nga ang unang sumolo... tas nung tapos na ang lahat sumolo't dapat babalik na ng melody o ie-ending na yung kanta, biglang sumolo pa uli yung gitarista!

Haaayyy... like the joke says... how many guitar players does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. And the world revolves around him.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on January 28, 2007, 07:13:45 PM
@ Aya_Yuson- Tama ka jan ser! :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on January 30, 2007, 08:29:39 AM
AABA forms dapat?

Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nathanmanansala on January 30, 2007, 08:37:53 AM
Ang masasabi ko lang...

PLEASE LANG, TAMA NA YUNG FUNK IN "E"... NA MAY WALANG KATAPUSANG TUTUPANK-TUTUPANK NA BASS SOLO SA DULO!!!

Tantanan na rin yung mga one-chord vamp, na walang intro, walang melody, walang form... at hindi mai-ending-ending nang maayos.

Nothing kills the mood faster than sh_t like that.
crap. di nako pwede maki-jam. :D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on January 30, 2007, 09:41:46 AM
AABA forms dapat?



... well... ideally, yeah. AABA forms sana. Standards.

Pero kahit hindi. Basta may maliwanag na form, may melody. At higit sa lahat, yung alam ng lahat kung paano ie-ending!
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: kedysanchez on January 30, 2007, 12:48:19 PM

Nakakahiya nga naman sa mga tulad na ni Senor Aya na talagang malayo na ang naaabot tungkol sa kanilang musicality, talaga naman pong aayawan kayo ng mga funk jam na in E na walang katapusan. Natawa ako dun sa tutupank na bass solo sa dulo.... sign talaga ng walang ending na maayos e...

Pero nakaranas naman din ako ng pinajam ako tapos ang chord progression pang John Coltrane na di ko mahabol-habol dahil lipat nang lipat. Di naman kasi ako magaling pang gitarista.   Parang gusto kong agawin yung tambourine mula sa drummer at yun na lang ang tugtugin ko.

Isa pa siguro itong lesson sa jamming.  Tignan mo rin ang kakayahan mong tumugtog as compared to the other players na nandoon sa stage.  Pag sa tingin mong di naman kayo magtutugma, huwag nyo nang pilitin. Pero kung nagkakasayahan naman at ka-level mo ang tugtugan, kahit ba Johnny B. Goode ang gawin niyo for 40 minutes I'm sure it will be one hell of a jam.

nathan, okay lang iyon.  May mga gitarista pa ring nag-eenjoy sa mas simpleng tugtugan like "Funky E" simply because hanggang doon pa lang siguro ang musical capabilities nila.. . No offense kay Boss Aya, whom I know as one of the finest pickers in the country many years ago pa (Remember me, sir?). Pero ako, I'd be more than willing to play the never ending EM7 - AM7 vamp of Himig Natin anytime for those who would care to jam with me.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on January 30, 2007, 01:00:33 PM
I'm afraid some of you may have missed the point. Wala namang problema ang one-chord-jam, eh. Basta may MELODY at may FORM.

At may ending na klaro.

Trip din naman ang modal, eh. Basta nga may melody, form at ending. Wag lang yung tamang never ending story yung kanta.

At walang tutupank-tutupank.  :-D

Pero oo, sang-ayon ako na dapat ngang makibagay sa mga kasama mo sa entablado't sa kakayahan nila.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: kedysanchez on January 30, 2007, 01:07:25 PM
Hahaha.  I really enjoy the tutupank tutupank part :-D.

May isa pang mas malabong ending, Senor,.... yung mapapagod magtutupank yung bahista kaya ipapa drum solo na lang hanggang magsawa. 

Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on January 30, 2007, 01:12:00 PM
Onga, totoo.

Pero mas hassle yung tutupank tutupank.
 :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Perf_De_Castro on January 31, 2007, 02:57:38 AM
Ang masasabi ko lang...

PLEASE LANG, TAMA NA YUNG FUNK IN "E"... NA MAY WALANG KATAPUSANG TUTUPANK-TUTUPANK NA BASS SOLO SA DULO!!!


Aya,

"E" as in "EPOL" or "E" as in "EGOL"?

 :? :? :?





 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on January 31, 2007, 05:00:46 AM
may narinig akong jam, gitara ang una nagsolo tapos after ng lahat magsolo, solo ulit ng gitara, hindi yung melody kundi solo ulit. haha. inabot siguro ng mga 10 mins lahat. hehe
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on January 31, 2007, 06:18:03 PM
E as in, "eh, kasi naman..." at "'Eto na naman tayo...".
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: edmund on March 28, 2007, 05:14:49 PM
how bout yung ayaw mag bigay at gahaman mag solo???..bassist here my experienced lang me kajam dalawang sax and trumpets..puro kanila di na pinagbigyan ang gitarista ,bahista at drummer... :? :?
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on March 29, 2007, 02:49:24 PM
how bout yung ayaw mag bigay at gahaman mag solo???..bassist here my experienced lang me kajam dalawang sax and trumpets..puro kanila di na pinagbigyan ang gitarista ,bahista at drummer... :? :?
ang twag jan ego-tripping at sugapa... yung atat at gusto bida parati, maraming ganyan hehehe :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: edmund on March 29, 2007, 10:10:46 PM
yup feeling ata nila big band pa cla e jamming nga e..dun sa big band cla bida dun hehe
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: palolo_worm on March 30, 2007, 03:41:05 PM
nice inputs! haha, nakakatawa ung funk in e. really reminds mo of my high school days. tapos kameng mga drummer ultra poste mode. tapos akala mo time for a drum break or solo of some sort kasi magouout ung gitarista un pala bass solo. then after a melody hihina ulit akala mo drum break or solo of some sort tapos fade to end pala. haha. bitter.

some tips lang sa drummers, based on experience. keep the mood going. improvise creatively but never, ever overplay. and when the tune needs the swing, keep swinging. and dynamics, know when to tone down, and keep the punches interesting. know your role in the band, stay in your space, and phrase your solos well. un lang. :-) 

final thought - have a good attitude. enjoy your playing. kung hindi ka binigyan ng solo spot don't mess up the song. a solo is not the only way to tell how good a drummer is.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on March 30, 2007, 04:24:39 PM
Ang masasabi ko lang...

PLEASE LANG, TAMA NA YUNG FUNK IN "E"... NA MAY WALANG KATAPUSANG TUTUPANK-TUTUPANK NA BASS SOLO SA DULO!!!

Tantanan na rin yung mga one-chord vamp, na walang intro, walang melody, walang form... at hindi mai-ending-ending nang maayos.

Nothing kills the mood faster than sh_t like that.

Oh... at kung tapos ka nang sumolo, wag ka nang sumolo pa ulit!

I've seen more than a couple of guitar players fall guilty of that at more than a couple of jam sessions. Yung gitarista na nga ang unang sumolo... tas nung tapos na ang lahat sumolo't dapat babalik na ng melody o ie-ending na yung kanta, biglang sumolo pa uli yung gitarista!

Haaayyy... like the joke says... how many guitar players does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. And the world revolves around him.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

galing kosa..tu tu pank tu tu pank pank pank tu tu pank..

Nasaring rin lang naman:

" Jam tayo"

"Cge, jazz naman".

" Jazz? dapat Maj7!" ....Kraaaaang.  :-D
 

Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on March 31, 2007, 11:43:10 PM

some tips lang sa drummers, based on experience. keep the mood going. improvise creatively but never, ever overplay. and when the tune needs the swing, keep swinging. and dynamics, know when to tone down, and keep the punches interesting. know your role in the band, stay in your space, and phrase your solos well. un lang. :-) 

final thought - have a good attitude. enjoy your playing. kung hindi ka binigyan ng solo spot don't mess up the song. a solo is not the only way to tell how good a drummer is.


Thank u very much, sir! :-)
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: brianb on April 06, 2007, 08:56:23 PM
I found a couple of anecdotes about jazz jamming with Charlie Parker, from Aebersold's jazz handbook:

First, one from Charlie himself:

"I knew how to play two tunes in a certain key, the key of D for saxophone
(alto sax), F concert. I learned how to play the first eight bars of Lazy River and I
knew the complete tune to Honeysuckle Rose. I never stopped to think about there being
other keys or nothin' like that. So I took my horn out to this joint where a bunch of fellows
I'd seen around were, and the first thing they started playing was Body and Soul, longmeter,
you know. So, I go to playing my Honeysuckle Rose and there ain't no form of
conglomeration, you know, so ... they laughed me off the bandstand ... they laughed at me
so hard ....... I was about 16 or 17 at the time. I never thought about there being any more
keys, you know."

Another one from John Welch (friend of Jamey Aebersold):

"I was eighteen years old and very naive. I had studied arranging with Bill
Russo. I went out to South Dakota to the University there to study music and found myself
really unhappy with the situation. I wrote back and forth to Bill Russo and he got me in with
Lennie Tristano in New York City for lessons. So, I took the bus to New York and my first
weekend in New York I went down to the Village with my horn (trombone) to a club called
the Open Door. There was a big sign on the window saying "Jam Session - Sunday Afternoon".
This was Sunday afternoon so I went in with my horn and a group was playing a
Blues in F. So I thought, well great, I enjoy playing Blues in F. I put my case on the table,
took my trombone out and just walked right up and started to sit in with them. My playing
at that point in my life was influenced by George Brunies, a Dixieland trombonist, so I
started playing tailgate trombone with this group. They immediately brought Blues in F to
a screeching halt and the piano player said, 'Cherokee in E' and took it at a tempo you
wouldn't believe. I thought, well that's cool. I don't know Cherokee and I don't play very
well in that key and I sure can't play that fast on trombone, so I'll sit this one out. So, I went
back to the table and laid the horn in the case on the table and sat there. Everyone was
looking at me as though cancer had arrived. Finally a guy in the audience came over and
started unscrewing my horn, taking it apart and putting it away in the case. And he just
looked down at me and said, 'Kid, you're obnoxious.'

"The band that day at the Open Door was Bud Powell, Max Roach., Charles Mingus,
Miles Davis and none other than Charlie Parker himself!

"George Wallington was the fellow who came over to my table and dismantled my
horn. And after he said that, I got the message!

"I realized I had really done something terrible. So they broke the set and Bird
came over, came right straight over to my table. I remember him turning the chair around
so he was leaning on the back as he faced me. Then he started talking to me. He said,
'Look kid, what you were doing didn't really fit in with this group, but you were doing it well.
You really were laying it down. That's great! And you just keep going.'

"Bird was so compassionate in that moment with me when everyone else was
ready to kill me. And this struck me very much. As a matter of fact, when I think of Charlie
Parker, I would have to say he affected me much more as a human being in my reaction to
other human beings at that moment than musically."
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on April 07, 2007, 01:06:29 AM
^^^^Thanks for sharing that, brianb. Quite moving as well as inspiring. Thanks again,man! :-)
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: boyet on April 07, 2007, 04:52:07 PM
Ayos yung "Anecdotes" a. Nakakaaliw din mga sinabi ni Aya sa mga tutupank na solo sa bass. Napurga ka na din pala sa tutupank! Ewan ko ba kung bakit karamihan sa mga nagsusulputang "bahista" ang alam sa solo ng bajo e puro tutupank lang...papano kaya kung ang pyesa "Waltz For Debby" :-D :-D sabay tutupank gagawing solo ng bahista!!! Sabagay si Jonas Hellborg nga nag-tutupank din na solo sa Goodbye Pork Pie Hat kasama si McLaughlin (di ko nga pala nagustuhan ginawa ni Hellborg) ewan ko lang kung ayos sa inyo yun.

Eto lang maidadagdag ko: Ibagay lang natin lahat ng gagawin natin sa sitwasyon ng Jam Session. Kung bagay mag-tutupank bakit hindi di ba? :wink: 8-)
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: psychic_sushi on April 11, 2007, 07:44:49 PM
brianb, thanks for that, it was very nice very nice.

I can totally relate to the John Welch story, situation wise. I've been a good boy ever since  :wink:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on April 12, 2007, 09:52:58 AM
Nice account there bro.

Hehehe what a time to be in sittin' with THE cats.

I'd give anything to be John Welch at that moment. Kahit Pinulupot pa ni Bird yung Trombone sa leeg ko okey na.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on April 13, 2007, 11:01:02 AM
T_ngina, kakaiyak naman yang anecdote na yon.

Sensya na, emo mode ako ngayon.  :-D

Pero di nga...

Knowing about Charlie Parker's personal history and having read and heard a lot about what was like in the jazz world over there back then, wow, i'm completely blown away reading about what Bird did for that trombonist.

As many have said about Bird, he could be both angelic and evil.

What a guy.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Lahed92801 on April 14, 2007, 10:44:14 AM
No Tutupank-Tutupank? XD Magagalit bassist sa banda ko. Sobrang slapper haha.
 
I think, one of the most important parts in jamming is to know WHEN TO STOP. As much as we like listening to solos and playing, nobody wants to hear you come in and play a 72 minute solo. Also, yes, no more repetitive funks in E lol.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on April 14, 2007, 12:38:44 PM
two-pank :-D :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on April 14, 2007, 04:31:01 PM
Tutupank Shakur.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Lahed92801 on April 14, 2007, 10:35:28 PM
Is it ok ba to jam onstage with people you've never played with before?


BTW,

Diba yung mga natural modes, named after the populations o greece? bakit walang spartan mode XD
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on April 14, 2007, 11:00:45 PM
^^^^ :roll:

Ok lang siguro......

...basta walang tutupank-tupank!  :-D





Natatawa ko everytime pinanonood ko yung video ng jam namin last time....tutupank-tupank at may pa- tapping-tapping pa...

Pero ok lang, di naman jazz yun e......aah...Do da phunk-tuphunk!  :-D


Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Lahed92801 on April 14, 2007, 11:21:11 PM
How about Funk in Eb? Diba Eb is the sexy key?

Haha, jazz tapping, Stanley Jordan style ba?

Haha, kung spartan mode, mababali yung fretboard XD
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on April 14, 2007, 11:52:19 PM
how bout superlocrian mode with tupank solos? :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on April 16, 2007, 08:58:29 AM
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Tutupank sa Saxophone Pwede ba?
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: frogfunk on April 16, 2007, 06:18:44 PM
Ewan ko ba kung bakit karamihan sa mga nagsusulputang "bahista" ang alam sa solo ng bajo e puro tutupank lang...papano kaya kung ang pyesa "Waltz For Debby" :-D :-D sabay tutupank gagawing solo ng bahista!!!

I shudder to think! Taka lang ako paano naipasok ni Jonas yung slap bit niya dun sa "Goodbye, Pork Pie Hat". Parang okay lang naman...
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on April 16, 2007, 09:41:06 PM
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Tutupank sa Saxophone Pwede ba?


Tototot-totooot! :-D  Pwede siguro... basta wag sa E? :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: xavier on April 16, 2007, 09:53:37 PM
bakit sa E lang di pwede?
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on April 17, 2007, 08:56:11 AM
Kasi yung Sax sa Eb. Dugtungan ba ng GI Pipe para Matono sa E.

tutupank fever kaaagad. Toooot tooooot pank  :lol:  :lol:

Eh sa drums? Tugudug tuguddug pank?
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on April 17, 2007, 09:31:17 AM
Kasi yung Sax sa Eb. Dugtungan ba ng GI Pipe para Matono sa E.

tutupank fever kaaagad. Toooot tooooot pank  :lol:  :lol:

Eh sa drums? Tugudug tuguddug pank?

3plets na tgudug! :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: xavier on April 17, 2007, 04:25:56 PM
Kasi yung Sax sa Eb. Dugtungan ba ng GI Pipe para Matono sa E.

tutupank fever kaaagad. Toooot tooooot pank  :lol:  :lol:

Eh sa drums? Tugudug tuguddug pank?


ahhh.  :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on April 17, 2007, 04:29:37 PM
3plets na tgudug! :-D

Eh di Tri tri pank na pla yun ano?   :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Lahed92801 on April 18, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
Kung sa flute kaya...  :-D

How DO you ask a bad if you can sit in with them?


Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: gisan925 on April 18, 2007, 10:23:30 PM
tutupank tutupank!  :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on April 22, 2007, 10:39:17 AM
T_ngina, dumikit na talaga yung tutupank, ah.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mga 'tol, para sa plaka lang, ha... (for the record)

I have nothing against slapping, popping or tapping. Neither do i have anything against the key of E.

What i do abhor is the triumph of mediocrity, ignorance, apathy and sheer laziness over the pursuit of excellence.

Many bassists' tutupank solos are cringe-worthy only because they're resorted to for lack of anything else in their vocabulary.

Sa madaling sabi... wala ng ibang alam kaya tutupank in E na lang.

Magaling at matalino ang Pinoy.

Kadalasan tamad lang mag-isip.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on April 22, 2007, 10:36:23 PM
tamad nga minsan karamihan, sama na ako dun,hehehe... topak topak tupank tupnak din... :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on April 23, 2007, 09:42:02 AM
T_ngina, dumikit na talaga yung tutupank, ah.

.....

Magaling at matalino ang Pinoy.

Kadalasan tamad lang mag-isip.

Oi Kosa! ayaw mong sagutin ang Are Filipinos Lazy Thread tapos tutupank lang pala angmagic word sa opinyon mo  hahahahaa... :lol: :lol: :lol:

yung sa flute yata flu-flu-fank...
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Lahed92801 on April 23, 2007, 09:49:00 AM
Haha, real question now. When you start to lose it in the middle of a solo, what do YOU do?
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: boyet on April 29, 2007, 02:57:31 AM
Ewan ko ba kung bakit karamihan sa mga nagsusulputang "bahista" ang alam sa solo ng bajo e puro tutupank lang...papano kaya kung ang pyesa "Waltz For Debby" :-D :-D sabay tutupank gagawing solo ng bahista!!!

I shudder to think! Taka lang ako paano naipasok ni Jonas yung slap bit niya dun sa "Goodbye, Pork Pie Hat". Parang okay lang naman...
Ewan ko lang pero sa opinyon ko parang di bagay yung ginawa nya.  :roll:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: edmund on April 29, 2007, 08:12:00 AM
marame traditional mindset dito sa jazz,nway kanya kanyang trip yan hehe
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on April 29, 2007, 10:18:16 AM
sa bgay knya knya talga... hayaan na rin yung iba mag-tupank-tupank... basta my even variation, pwede na yun..peace :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: balakubak33 on May 01, 2007, 07:38:53 AM
Akala ko DOs n DON'T tong thread na to! Naging Anti-tupank tupank hahaha!!!  :-D




Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on May 01, 2007, 01:21:03 PM
Haha, real question now. When you start to lose it in the middle of a solo, what do YOU do?

Well... as many masters have suggested, one simply stops. Stop, take a breath. Listen. Listen to everything around you. Then say to yourself, "As a listener and fan of music, what would i like to hear right now? What would serve the music well at this moment?"

Then play that.

 :-)

Play what you hear.

And if you can't sing it don't play it.

c",)
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on May 02, 2007, 06:42:22 AM

And if you can't sing it don't play it.

c",)


absolutely!
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: DyaniBee on May 04, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
Haha, real question now. When you start to lose it in the middle of a solo, what do YOU do?

Well... as many masters have suggested, one simply stops. Stop, take a breath. Listen. Listen to everything around you. Then say to yourself, "As a listener and fan of music, what would i like to hear right now? What would serve the music well at this moment?"

Then play that.

 :-)

Play what you hear.

And if you can't sing it don't play it.

c",)

Or you could do the basketball thing and pass the ball to someone else.  :-D

Tutupank!   :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: joshnerez on May 04, 2007, 03:09:52 PM
how bout yung ayaw mag bigay at gahaman mag solo???..bassist here my experienced lang me kajam dalawang sax and trumpets..puro kanila di na pinagbigyan ang gitarista ,bahista at drummer... :? :?
ang twag jan ego-tripping at sugapa... yung atat at gusto bida parati, maraming ganyan hehehe :-D :-D :-D

yupz..thats very correct..heheeheh..never ending story nga sabi ni senor aya..hihihi..
tutupank! tutupank!
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: boyet on May 06, 2007, 11:11:24 PM
Parang nais kong matutunan ng husto yang tutupank na yan mukhang magandang gamiting pang-solo yan sa mga pyesang tulad ng Misty o kaya ang makabagbag damdaming What Are You Doing the Rest of Your Life ni Michel LeGrand. Siguradong maaantig ang damdamin ng mga makikinig. :roll:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on May 07, 2007, 09:08:41 AM
Parang nais kong matutunan ng husto yang tutupank na yan mukhang magandang gamiting pang-solo yan sa mga pyesang tulad ng Misty o kaya ang makabagbag damdaming What Are You Doing the Rest of Your Life ni Michel LeGrand. Siguradong maaantig ang damdamin ng mga makikinig. :roll:

..nakikinita ko bro yung pagtitili ng mga lola sa kalagitnaan ng misty habang nag tutupank ka, at nag siyayapusan ang mga nagmamahalan dahil sa kantig-antig na gayuma nang tutupank... :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on May 07, 2007, 09:20:33 AM
tupank rules, nakakalagalag panty un, lalo n pa isa isa n kayung ngsosolo--yung bhista pansin n pnsin pag nagtutupank na :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Bammbamm on May 07, 2007, 11:09:14 PM


Quote of the day;



TONE is in the TUTUPANK!  :evil:



Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Lahed92801 on May 08, 2007, 06:29:40 PM
My friend broke a string tutupanking ROFL. How is this possible? He pops in the manner that you would shoot an arrow
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on May 08, 2007, 06:55:25 PM
whoa, ang lakas nya naman tumu-pangk! :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: boyet on May 09, 2007, 08:01:08 AM
Iba talaga ang kapangyarihan ng tutupank. Dapat mapag-aralan ko na rin ito sa bajo de arco....ala Lee Rocker tutupank. :roll: 
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Lahed92801 on May 09, 2007, 08:07:01 AM
BTW, is 2 minutes too long a drum solo?
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on May 09, 2007, 09:10:08 AM
BTW, is 2 minutes too long a drum solo?
i think ok lng kung ng-fi-fit sa songs, like let say a finale.. ok naman cguro basta balance.. :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: aya_yuson on May 28, 2007, 08:49:10 AM
Well, if the drummer sneaks a few tutupanks in there, maybe 2 minutes is just right.

 :-P
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on May 29, 2007, 08:37:11 PM
2-punk rules!! :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: nancy brew on June 08, 2007, 02:50:06 PM
tupank shakur must be a hipfunkbop demigod.

all hail almighty tutupank!!  :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on June 08, 2007, 03:40:13 PM
ich bin in der Liebe mit der "tupank" Art! Tupank Richtlinien. :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: foom on June 14, 2007, 10:12:28 PM
TUTUPANK!!! fukengruven
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: jazhombie on June 15, 2007, 06:36:47 PM
tupank-- pwede rin ibig sabihin nito, groove... hehehe :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: Jim Ayson on June 17, 2007, 12:02:16 PM
#1 rule in the jam - Listen to your jam mates, feel where they take you, so you all land on your feet in the end. Nothing worse then the showoff who ignores the rest of the band.

#2 - map out a beginning and an end to your solo, then pass the spotlight to the other guy. Maybe the solo order can be worked out before the tune - and then again, there's always "tinginan na lang, at kita kits na lang sa dulo". But hogging the solo endlessly makes it boring for everyone else - the band and the audience.
Title: Re: Jazz Jam Do's & Dont's
Post by: william251082 on July 09, 2007, 06:16:56 AM
my jamsession pla s pilipinas no? saan? sna nka pnta ko dati, s womens ako npasok dati meron b mlapit dun?