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Title: which song do you find most difficult for you to play & why?
Post by: pyong_2 on January 25, 2007, 09:41:21 AM
metropolis,  :? haba kasi, hehehehehe!!!!
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Post by: peeves24 on January 25, 2007, 09:45:58 AM
dati:
sting's seven days at englishman in new york - parang di kasi natural yung pakiramdam e

ngayon:
mitch mitchell's drumming on the 'are you experienced' album by hendrix - ang kulit mag drums. ang hirap i-transcribe note for note. puno ng triplet fills grrrr
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Post by: daemonite on January 25, 2007, 04:37:58 PM
The songs of Tool... Wicked kasi si Danny Carey! Lalo na pag bandang bridge, tapos bandang huli ng song.
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Post by: intake on January 25, 2007, 06:11:26 PM
dati Rosanna  :-D

ngayon...yung metropolis din  :-(
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Post by: chadrobles on January 25, 2007, 09:38:33 PM
try nyo buttercup isang kamay lang sa hats... :-D
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Post by: bam0120 on January 25, 2007, 10:03:26 PM
TOTO - Somewhere Tonight

hirap reggae!!

=_)
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Post by: drumster on January 26, 2007, 04:25:35 AM
Right now, Eric Benet's The Last Time is driving me nuts!  It's a great love song with an old-school jazz/swing feel.  The drum parts in the recording feel oh so good, and is extremely sensitive to the song.  Whenever my band gets to jam this song during our gigs, I feel quite shaky with it.

When I got the chance to check out the album credits from the CD sleeve, I found out that the drummer on that song is Vinnie Colaiuta.  Kaya naman pala...  :-D
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Post by: daemonite on January 26, 2007, 02:37:56 PM
wow pareng dio, may song pa pala na nahihirapan ka!  :lol:
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Post by: drumster on January 26, 2007, 02:54:51 PM
Everybody has their weaknesses. :-D  Pero madami talagang mahirap tugtugin.  We even have songs that we perform live regularly on gigs na nahihirapan pa rin ako.

Ang madali para kay drummer A, maaaring mahirap para kay drummer B.  And vice versa.  And I do not know any drummer who can do everything.  Vinnie Colaiuta may be the closest to what we can describe as a complete drummer, but I'm sure there's something that he probably can't do...  Or maybe haven't had the chance to do yet!

Ang dami pang pwedeng i-aral, pero di ko pa nata-try.  Hilaw ang brush playing ko.  Di ko pa na-try mag-left foot clave.  I can't play double bass as fast as Virgil Donati.  Even the thought of learning and playing-along to Tool's music scares me.  But it's okay.  Facing challenges are good.  At bata pa naman tayo, marami pang mga taon at pagkakataon na matuto pa.
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Post by: daemonite on January 26, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
Yup, ditto on that. Kumbaga, kapag nagtra-training tayo magdrums, dun lumalabas yung talagang trademark natin na sound diba? every drummer creates his own fingerprint kahit na anong level pa yan. I remember one time, sa sobra closeness namin na group dito sa dagupan, when you arrive at our studio, you can actually identify who is playing the drums. kahit asa malayo ka pa lang.  :lol:
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Post by: drumster on January 26, 2007, 03:06:10 PM
And I consider that as an asset - a musician who has his/her own style and sound.  As an artist, I'm trying to develop my personal style.  Ika nga, what's the point of being an artist and expressing my individuality if I'm just gonna keep on imitating?  Sana ma-achieve natin ito someday.

Teka, off-topic na tayo...  :-D
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Post by: daemonite on January 26, 2007, 03:14:20 PM
 :lol: napasama ka sa agos lol....

nung una nahirapan ako seprahin yung judith ng apc. it was my first time to actually play a sort of syncopated song. as in 3 weeks ko sya na constant na sinepra. until finally dahil sa pressure, nakuha ko rin.

alert the armory by urbandub makes me shudder sa live kasi di ko pa masyado na work-out independence ng kamay ko sa feet ko.

tool songs sumasakit ang ulo ko kasi d-peds sya. di pa ako marunong mag d-peds (paging jp!)
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Post by: lequixia on January 26, 2007, 03:16:45 PM
dati Rosanna  :-D

ngayon...yung metropolis din  :-(




i agree with you, guys.. nahiirapan din drummer namin sa metropolis... :-o
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Post by: lil.drummerboy on January 27, 2007, 07:44:25 PM
yatering - anal narcotic
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Post by: Bammbamm on January 27, 2007, 08:31:32 PM
 All songs that require total independence,polyrhythms, odd time-mostly Jazz Fusion.... at yung sobrang bilis na walang dynamic at masakit sa tenga :x
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Post by: Kin on January 27, 2007, 11:08:50 PM
ngayon ko lang na-realize na mahirap pala ang Counting Blue Cars ng Dishwalla.
kayang kunin kung note per note pero ang hirap kunin yung feel.  :oops:
any suggestions? balak ko na lang simplehan yung palo dun eh. :|
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Post by: daemonite on January 27, 2007, 11:59:52 PM
lagyan mo ng ghost notes  :-D

Parang yung kanta ng Imago na Akap. Patay pag ala ghost notes....
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Post by: Kin on January 28, 2007, 05:26:26 AM
lagyan mo ng ghost notes  :-D

Parang yung kanta ng Imago na Akap. Patay pag ala ghost notes....

hehe. naliligo na nga siya ng ghost notes kaso parang di pa rin kuha yung vibe nung kanta.
pansin ko lang kasi very lively yung drum pattern niya kahit medyo mellow yung ibang parts nung kanta pero pasok.
Siguro more work na lang sa dynamics and proper timing.
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Post by: hanibanch on January 28, 2007, 09:38:42 AM
incubus. wahaha. iba yung feel nung mga kanta. haha. at saka nahihirapan akong tugtugin mga kanta nila kasi kulang din ako sa gamit. hehe. yun kasi trip nung bago kong banda. hehehe. hay.   :-D :-D :-D
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Post by: pmack on January 28, 2007, 09:45:53 AM
especially sa album na "make yourself". medyo kakaiba palo ni jose pasillas III dun sa album na yun.

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Post by: drummerboy827 on January 28, 2007, 11:35:43 AM
somehow metropolis & this dying soul!!
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Post by: daemonite on January 28, 2007, 05:38:43 PM
lagyan mo ng ghost notes  :-D

Parang yung kanta ng Imago na Akap. Patay pag ala ghost notes....

hehe. naliligo na nga siya ng ghost notes kaso parang di pa rin kuha yung vibe nung kanta.
pansin ko lang kasi very lively yung drum pattern niya kahit medyo mellow yung ibang parts nung kanta pero pasok.
Siguro more work na lang sa dynamics and proper timing.

malamang. aralin mo mabuti yung kanta not just the drum part tulad ng sabi ni drumster nung mini-eb namin. you have to learn the whole song not just the drums to really feel the dynamics of the song. malaking pagbabago nangyari sa palo ko simula nung sinabi nya yun. kya if i were you, i'd go to the eb's to learn not just the tchniques but the attitude
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Post by: Kin on January 29, 2007, 03:36:58 AM
lagyan mo ng ghost notes  :-D

Parang yung kanta ng Imago na Akap. Patay pag ala ghost notes....

hehe. naliligo na nga siya ng ghost notes kaso parang di pa rin kuha yung vibe nung kanta.
pansin ko lang kasi very lively yung drum pattern niya kahit medyo mellow yung ibang parts nung kanta pero pasok.
Siguro more work na lang sa dynamics and proper timing.

malamang. aralin mo mabuti yung kanta not just the drum part tulad ng sabi ni drumster nung mini-eb namin. you have to learn the whole song not just the drums to really feel the dynamics of the song. malaking pagbabago nangyari sa palo ko simula nung sinabi nya yun. kya if i were you, i'd go to the eb's to learn not just the tchniques but the attitude

Yeah. I do get what you're saying.
Kasi se-session lang ako sa isang band and may gig sila this coming weekend. I don't normally hear their line-up of songs including yung Counting Blue Cars kaya ngayon ko palang siya dinadama. Kaya panay ko siyang pinapakinggan everywhere just to get the mood of the song.
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Post by: skeh on January 29, 2007, 09:20:42 AM
YUgyugan na by POT.... hrap halos technical. ... bro daemonite...... agree ako dyan sa tips na yan....
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Post by: glynminded on January 29, 2007, 06:38:46 PM
Recently gusto ng jamming session party ung mga officemates ng erpat ko.... tapos ung isa dun sa mga tutugugin eh ung "touch me" ng the doors.... pucha.... kala mo madali pero bigla na lang sumasabit... try listening to it.... and up to now I still can't get the chorus of rosanna! ehehehehe...  pinagaaralan ko na nga ung fool in the rain muna ng led zeppelin eh... para makuha ko ung purdie  shuffle.... ayun.... gusto ko talaga matutunan un eh... kasi gusto ko maincorporate ung shuffle na un sa isa sa mga compo namin... at siguro try ko na rin gumawa ng sarili kong hybrid nun! ehehehehe!  I've been into that stuff kasi pansin ko masyado ko na binababad sarili ko sa funk, rock at reggae ska....
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Post by: daemonite on January 29, 2007, 09:31:52 PM
Isa pang comment ko, napapansin ko kasi, drummers tend to forget other genres like Pop and R&B, porke rockers tayo, we won't like the songs na. I suggest you listen to most of the Pop and R&B tunes today, lalo na sa R&B kasi diversed na yung genre nila. Kala mo simple lang mga palo nila, yun pala, it takes more than just skills to play these things. Hindi lang basta tug-pak-tug-tug-pak. Kung minsan meron yung certain emotion na kelangan mo ilagay dun sa song para ma-feel ng audience yung song. Remember, we are the core of the band. Kapag sumabit tayo, for sure sabit na rin ang mga kasama natin.
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Post by: hanibanch on January 30, 2007, 12:50:47 PM
yep. agree ako sa iyo daemonite!! hehehehe.    :-D  :-D   :-D
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Post by: lil.drummerboy on January 30, 2007, 08:47:38 PM
ung mga lamb of god ang hirap :evil:
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Post by: xalanx on January 31, 2007, 10:45:50 AM
All songs that require total independence,polyrhythms, odd time-mostly Jazz Fusion.... at yung sobrang bilis na walang dynamic at masakit sa tenga :x

I agree!!!!+10,00 points. ako din hehehehe...... :-D
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Post by: daemonite on January 31, 2007, 08:03:01 PM
ung mga lamb of god ang hirap :evil:

i've heard of it na rin, customized ang pedal nya eh. kaya ganon. hirap gawin kapag hindi exact ang pedal mo sa kanya. it takes skill talaga hehehe....pero sabi nga ni jpmb about double peds, if you know how to count 1-4, you can do any doublepeds with practice. hehehe....
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Post by: lil.drummerboy on February 01, 2007, 11:32:31 PM
mahirap parin ung ginagawa nya. hindi naman cya ganun ka bilis gumamit mag pedal. pero ung timing mahirap. bsta lupet ng paa nya. oo nakita ko ngayung pedal nya ung black tapos mukhang plastic mas mahaba un eh..
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Post by: nO RLY on February 11, 2007, 01:05:28 AM
YYZ by Rush! pamatay yung pagtugtog ni Neil Peart dun.. ang bilis ng kamay niya.. :-o
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Post by: porksoda on February 11, 2007, 09:47:18 AM
mga palo ni cobham sa mahavishnu orchestra and tool songs ... enough said :mrgreen:
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Post by: pmack on February 11, 2007, 10:12:38 AM
yung progression ni Kirk Covington sa last album ng Tribal Tech... grabehan na to...
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Post by: toybitz on February 12, 2007, 06:06:08 PM
Temple Of the Dog and Soundgarden albums, drummed by Matt Cameron.

Primus - any with Tim Alexander

It's not just the notes, Matt and Herb has this bite when playing.  The crunch found in their tone.  The finesse even if they're heavy handed..and the precision.
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Post by: fredzs on February 12, 2007, 06:26:36 PM
any song from Planet X's "Moon Babies" album. LOL  :-o
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Post by: manson on February 12, 2007, 07:58:30 PM
All the police songs!! Stewart Copeland is a MONSTER!!!
of course all the Tool songs! Danny Carrey is a GOD!!!
hehehe