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Title: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: bugoy on March 06, 2007, 11:48:13 PM
Hello tube amp owners w/ 6L6 powered tube amps... ano preferred niyo from the list below and why ?

1. Ruby Tubes 6L6GC - LINK (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ruby-Tubes-6L6GC-STR-Matched-Amp-Tubes?sku=212030)
2. Electro-Harmonix 6L6EH - LINK (http://tubedepot.com/eh-6l6.html)
3. Sovtek 5881/6L6WGC - LINK (http://tubedepot.com/so-5881.html)
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: lao on March 07, 2007, 07:31:15 AM
walang groove tubes? hehehe :-D i guess i would go for the sovtek 5881/6L6WGC nothing beats OEM :-D would like to try yung electro-harmonix 6L6EH though
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: dvd9 on March 07, 2007, 08:58:47 AM
i would love to own one of these but it's way to expensive
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: deltaslim on March 07, 2007, 09:04:28 AM
i would love to own one of these but it's way to expensive

unfortunately, those are actually some of the cheapest new tubes in the market.
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: nathanmanansala on March 07, 2007, 09:07:22 AM
oh yeah... mah tube's gots lots o' power babeh...
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: Phil on March 07, 2007, 09:14:38 AM
I have expereienced all 3...the best is Rubys...then Electro Harmonics ....then blechhh Sovtek....I would put Sovtek under a rug then jump on it then piss on it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: markflo on March 07, 2007, 09:34:46 AM
I have expereienced all 3...the best is Rubys...then Electro Harmonics ....then blechhh Sovtek....I would put Sovtek under a rug then jump on it then piss on it.

that's mean, dude...actually sovtek manufactures electro harmonix tubes as well...they're all under the company new sensor which is owned by mike matthews...

among the 3...i've tried the ruby & the sovtek...

the Ruby 6L6GCMSTR has really great bass response

the sovtek is ok for normal tube amp repair or as an extra set in case your current ones blow out...y'know...that kinda thing...

Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: skunkyfunk on March 07, 2007, 09:44:34 AM
No love for JJs?
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: jack in a vox on March 07, 2007, 10:16:17 AM
i would love to own one of these but it's way to expensive

tubes are cheap enough. it's the amp that's expensive  :-D
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: deadlifted on March 07, 2007, 10:58:17 AM
ano jan yung may biggest bass response?
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: Phil on March 07, 2007, 12:30:45 PM
ano jan yung may biggest bass response?
if you want dramatic  effect....change your speakers.... tubes are just a very minute piec of the ginourmous iceberg to improve tone.

I have expereienced all 3...the best is Rubys...then Electro Harmonics ....then blechhh Sovtek....I would put Sovtek under a rug then jump on it then piss on it.

that's mean, dude...
  well thats what happens ( base on my experience ) in purchasing one whole MATCHED QUAD set and realized that instead of improving sound it worsen it. They are used by amp mfgrs as stock tubes because they are the cheapest and reliable(meaning...heavy duty...and your amp still works even if ilang years na nakaplug sa amp sa storage).....but tone wise....your better off with other brands.

No love for JJs?

I love their 6L6GCs and EL84s.....one of the best tubes out there.
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: deadlifted on March 07, 2007, 01:06:23 PM
yup, that's what they said. kaso...

tumingin na ko:

eminence speaker, The Governor: ~90 USD
shipping: ~176 USD  :-o :-o :-o wtf?!!!

hindi siya sulit. almost double the item cost yung shipping. sa tubes na lang ako titingin. in your experience, which 6L6 gives the biggest bass response?
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: Phil on March 07, 2007, 01:41:58 PM
yup, that's what they said. kaso...

tumingin na ko:

eminence speaker, The Governor: ~90 USD
shipping: ~176 USD  :-o :-o :-o wtf?!!!

hindi siya sulit. almost double the item cost yung shipping. sa tubes na lang ako titingin. in your experience, which 6L6 gives the biggest bass response?
none of the above....JJs.
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: markflo on March 07, 2007, 02:19:15 PM
No love for JJs?

jj's are ok in the v2 position or basta hindi v1 at phase inverter...although they have that brit flavor, they're pretty grainy sounding...and it can sound tiring after awhile...

those are for preamps of course...

as for power tubes, from my experience with them (GT 6L6S) they have a nice "soft" sound but you gotta rebias your amp as it draws less current than normal power tubes...but either way they'll sound nice and soft
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: Phil on March 07, 2007, 02:30:13 PM
No love for JJs?

jj's are ok in the v2 position or basta hindi v1 at phase inverter...although they have that brit flavor, they're pretty grainy sounding...and it can sound tiring after awhile...

those are for preamps of course...

as for power tubes, from my experience with them (GT 6L6S) they have a nice "soft" sound but you gotta rebias your amp as it draws less current than normal power tubes...but either way they'll sound nice and soft
Mark have you ever tried the latest JJ preamps...I have one ECC83Os and I have it in my Legacy at V1....it made both of my channels cleand and dirty louder and clearer...like the amp bot boosted...compared to a stock EX12ax7 or even Shunguangs 9th gens.
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: stringman on March 07, 2007, 02:38:06 PM
Available ba Groove Tubes dito? Here are pics of my tube amps.

Classic20
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/838/0001339dy7.jpg)

Marshall 9001
(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/674/0001340lw4.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: Phil on March 07, 2007, 03:11:11 PM
I have GT 6L6s in my amp and they sound really good.  I like it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: markflo on March 08, 2007, 02:50:44 PM
No love for JJs?

jj's are ok in the v2 position or basta hindi v1 at phase inverter...although they have that brit flavor, they're pretty grainy sounding...and it can sound tiring after awhile...

those are for preamps of course...

as for power tubes, from my experience with them (GT 6L6S) they have a nice "soft" sound but you gotta rebias your amp as it draws less current than normal power tubes...but either way they'll sound nice and soft
Mark have you ever tried the latest JJ preamps...I have one ECC83Os and I have it in my Legacy at V1....it made both of my channels cleand and dirty louder and clearer...like the amp bot boosted...compared to a stock EX12ax7 or even Shunguangs 9th gens.

actually, no...i haven't tried the ecc803s...ok din daw reviews nun...yung akin kasi yung shorter plate ata yung ecc83s, and those were kinda grainy & dark sounding...
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: skunkyfunk on March 08, 2007, 02:56:56 PM
Wait, I believe bugoy is gonna use it on a Peavey Valveking.  He wants a bluesy tone when cranked. While I haven't tried a Valveking yet, I do believe he wants a more Blackface Fender-y tone.  I don't know how the Valveking is voiced so can anyone help?
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: markflo on March 08, 2007, 02:59:35 PM
with the right tubes (and speaker) it can be done...the GT7025's are based off of the old 7025's used in blackface amps (i think) htey have really good top end response. another name (and brand since gt's merely select & relabel) would be the Ei 12ax7EG. I have it in my Laney now...
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: lao on March 08, 2007, 06:10:52 PM
I have GT 6L6s in my amp and they sound really good.  I like it.

nice! meron bang GT tubes here, locally? :-D
Title: Re: Let's talk about power tubes...
Post by: bugoy on March 08, 2007, 10:26:33 PM
thank you sa support, much appreciated!