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Title: Permutation Theory
Post by: skunkyfunk on March 08, 2007, 11:25:47 AM

This theory on drum and percs is so hardcore, because it is both mathematical in nature and involves a lot of musical taste.  It's just that, any permutation can work in a mathematical sense, but not necessarily in a musical situation.

Title: Re: Permutation Theory
Post by: toybitz on March 08, 2007, 11:36:08 AM

Quote from: skunkyfunk on March 08, 2007, 11:25:47 AM

This theory on drum and percs is so hardcore, because it is both mathematical nature and involves a lot of musical taste.  It's just that, any permutation can work in a mathematical sense, but not necessarily in a musical situation.

I think it could work fine with funk and fusion.

Dave Garibaldi uses it a lot.  And sometimes, pahapyaw ginagawa nina Chambers and Weckl.

Title: Re: Permutation Theory
Post by: peeves24 on March 08, 2007, 11:46:26 AM

uhhmmmm  :?

please expound re: permutation theory for the uninitiated

Title: Re: Permutation Theory
Post by: skunkyfunk on March 08, 2007, 12:03:47 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on March 08, 2007, 11:46:26 AM

uhhmmmm  :?

please expound re: permutation theory for the uninitiated

I'll explain it a bit in a mathematical sense.

Say you have 5 persons, and 4 doors, how many ways can each of the 5 persons enter any of the 4 doors in succession?  Each possible way is called a permutation.   

Now if you have a kick, snare, two toms, a floor tom, a hihat (closed, open, semi-open or pedal kicked), a crash, a ride (bell or bow), and you've got two hands and two feet, how many ways can you fill a simple 4-4 measure?  Without polyrhythms alone, you get almost infinitely many ways to do so, but doesn't mean that it would sound good in a certain musical situation.