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Title: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 19, 2007, 04:42:14 PM
ano kaya bagay na pups sa fender '57RI strat ko? ngyn kc eh alnico ang stock nun eh, kung sakali mag upgrade ako, ano kaya bagay na ilagay dun? tnx
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: Kulas on March 19, 2007, 04:52:22 PM
are you looking to replace the whole set or piece ba piece lang?

it depends on your taste, your music, and your budget.

first, what sort of sound are you looking for in your strat? the stock alnico pickups on the reissues are pretty good already. if you want a bright, jangly strat tone, get vintage spec pickups. if you want a round fat, glassy, bluesy tone, get a hot or overwound set. if you want a modern-sounding strat, get EMG's.

next, your music. that kind of music will you be playing with that strat? kasi the tone you'll be getting might not match the particular music you'll be playing. like a low-output vintage set might not do justice to heavy metal music, you'll just end up frustrated.

last, budget. if the budget is limited, the choices are limited, if you have a pretty high ceiling on your price, the possibilities are endless. there are the cheaper GFS pickups (which are good na rin) then there are the mid-priced dimarzios and duncans and fender CS pickups, then there are the boutique ones, the lollars, fralins, bareknuckles, etc.

so yun, think of what you want muna para you won't end up spending on something na hindi mo magugustuhan in the end. good luck!
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: psychic_sushi on March 19, 2007, 07:55:24 PM
GFS are really good and bang for your buck.

Bill Lawrence Keystones, highly recommended and super affordable. You may also consider the Lawrence L-series stuff. www.billlawrence.com

Rival to BL's? Kinman Pick ups.

Lace Holy Grails are supposed to be very good too.

If you wanna go high end, the handwound, scatter wound variety, check out Bare Knuckles, O.C. Duff, Lollar and Fralin. I'd tip my hat to you if you dive for the Suhr V60s (Arghhh!!!)

if you're on a beer budget, have them scalarized. If they squeal at high gain, BAMF pot them (mine have been and have fantastic results on my stock alnico greco pick ups).

Want more bark and spank for the bridge? Stick a steel baseplate underneath.

Want to warm the bridge up? Have a tone pot attached to it.

You can also give it a new character just by changing the capacitor, upgrade the wire material, and pots to CTS spec.

Changing pick ups makes all the difference toy our tone, but great tone can also be achieved when you find new adventures with what you already have  :wink: just an alternative solution for you to consider. Thats just the tip of the iceberg.

Ahhhhh... the ever evolving universe of the strat. don't you just love to bath in option anxiety?!@  :wink:
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: Jayson77 on March 19, 2007, 08:23:25 PM
fender lace ganda
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on March 19, 2007, 09:41:20 PM
I'd go for EMG SA's specially when equipped with the EXG or SPC.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: psychic_sushi on March 19, 2007, 10:44:23 PM
I'd go for EMG SA's specially when equipped with the EXG or SPC.

yun! mismo rin yan! same with emg-sv's, (with the pole pieces for that classic look). i'm ultra happy with the emg-t's i have on my tele, and have tried an emg loaded MIJ fender strat that was lovely.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: Al_Librero on March 19, 2007, 11:18:37 PM
well, good luck finding EMG's if you opt for them. so difficult to buy them these days.

mine was as good as sold 30 minutes after i posted my ad. would probably be bummed for the price i sold it had it not been an old acquaintance who bought it.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: tele-tubby on March 19, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
Want more bark and spank for the bridge? Stick a steel baseplate underneath.

ginagawa ba ni BAMF ito?
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: psychic_sushi on March 20, 2007, 12:01:17 AM
Want more bark and spank for the bridge? Stick a steel baseplate underneath.

ginagawa ba ni BAMF ito?

hasn't yet, but i've discussed it with him and its a zinch to do  :wink: we can choose the materials pa, copper, aluminum, titanium, adamantium and depleted plutonium  :wink: ji=ust kidding 'bout the last three...  :-D
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: tele-tubby on March 20, 2007, 12:09:45 AM
hehe...

pero oks na copper, Twangbanger ang dating! :-D
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: mahavishnu on March 20, 2007, 12:26:38 AM
uy gusto ko din ng baseplate.. pero para sa tele neck hehe try try lang


click on the link, they have several clips of some strat pickups, from LACE to LOLLARS TO FRALINS..

http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Strat_Pickup_Sound_Clips_W1.cfm

gudluck
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 20, 2007, 12:15:22 PM
tnx sa mga replies.,staggered alnico stock pups nito eh maganfa na tumunog, gus2 ko lng upgrade pa.,hehe.,gus2 ko kc ung mdyo twangy and bluesy ung tunog.,hehe.,
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: mahavishnu on March 20, 2007, 02:55:37 PM
twangy and bluesy? get the harmonic design STP
http://www.harmonicdesign.net/allpages/custom_shop.html#Anchor-11481
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: erniebong on March 20, 2007, 03:05:32 PM
if i were you i would just have it star grounded, put on a treble bypass capacitor and the leave the pickups alone, the fact that it is a 57 reissue the pickups are an integral part of the design. if you want the twangy thing youl have to put on a switch between signal of the neck pickup and the bridge so that when you select the bridge or neck with the added switch turned on youll get the psuedo tele config on the second position.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: mikeeboy on March 20, 2007, 05:08:36 PM
of all those brands that youve mentioned which is locally availabe dito sa pinas brandnew?

sa audiophile Dimarzio and Duncans ang meron eh,
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: Al_Librero on March 20, 2007, 05:18:56 PM
minsan merong fender custom shop pickups sa perfect pitch.

but the rest of the brand names being thrown around? no... they'd have to be bought abroad.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: erniebong on March 20, 2007, 05:34:19 PM
minsan merong fender custom shop pickups sa perfect pitch.

but the rest of the brand names being thrown around? no... they'd have to be bought abroad.


Like 10years ago yata when i was still working for them meron nga pati lace at texas pero konti lang naubus din agad tapos di narin nag pasok ulit
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on March 20, 2007, 06:30:30 PM
got my EMG DG20 from ebay.SA set with EXG and SPC and pearl pickguard.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: tele-tubby on March 20, 2007, 07:07:44 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v380/zannpaci/gear/dads57.jpg)
we have the same guitar.  oks na oks na tunog niyan.  but if you want extra bite and twang, try putting a copper baseplate sa bridge


tnx sa mga replies.,staggered alnico stock pups nito eh maganfa na tumunog, gus2 ko lng upgrade pa.,hehe.,gus2 ko kc ung mdyo twangy and bluesy ung tunog.,hehe.,
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: mahavishnu on March 20, 2007, 09:44:06 PM
minsan merong fender custom shop pickups sa perfect pitch.

but the rest of the brand names being thrown around? no... they'd have to be bought abroad.


Like 10years ago yata when i was still working for them meron nga pati lace at texas pero konti lang naubus din agad tapos di narin nag pasok ulit

meron padin lace at texas. check yupangco main.. lots of lace. blue, gold , red etc
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: Phil on March 21, 2007, 09:19:51 AM
....get an ORIGINAL Fender pickup like one of the Custom series..... sayang ang pagkaFender ng strat mo.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: erniebong on March 21, 2007, 09:55:18 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v380/zannpaci/gear/dads57.jpg)
we have the same guitar.  oks na oks na tunog niyan.  but if you want extra bite and twang, try putting a copper baseplate sa bridge


tnx sa mga replies.,staggered alnico stock pups nito eh maganfa na tumunog, gus2 ko lng upgrade pa.,hehe.,gus2 ko kc ung mdyo twangy and bluesy ung tunog.,hehe.,


i still remeber it correctly 2 klase lang and lumabas na MIJ reissue strats one is the 50's which is actually a 54model in maple necks basswood or poplar body 3tone and 2tone sb, whine red and black colors with V-neck and 1 ply pickguard. the other is the 60's i cant remember the exact year model, also came in with same colors but with rosewood fingerboard C-neck and 3 ply pickguard. we sold those at 22k back then.

and come on, whats the point of acquiring a reissue strat if your going to replace integral parts? just try to keep it as it is. yun nga siguro starground lang at treble leak mod lang ayus na yan. walang replacement. sa mga reissue nakakabawas sa appreciation yun stock parts replacements. if you keep it as it is in ten years mag aapreciate payan and who knows baka maisipan mopa yan i liquidate diba. kung gusto mo pa mas hotter sound get a hotter guitar, dude sayang e! :-o
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 21, 2007, 02:50:12 PM
sa bagay.,tnx guys
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: tele-tubby on March 21, 2007, 07:47:42 PM
i still remeber it correctly 2 klase lang and lumabas na MIJ reissue strats one is the 50's which is actually a 54model in maple necks basswood or poplar body 3tone and 2tone sb, whine red and black colors with V-neck and 1 ply pickguard. the other is the 60's i cant remember the exact year model, also came in with same colors but with rosewood fingerboard C-neck and 3 ply pickguard. we sold those at 22k back then.

but I didn't get this from PP.  mine's a Jap Fender 57ri.  2 pc alder body / 1 pc maple neck / Fender Original Vintage Pickups :-)


and come on, whats the point of acquiring a reissue strat if your going to replace integral parts? just try to keep it as it is. yun nga siguro starground lang at treble leak mod lang ayus na yan. walang replacement. sa mga reissue nakakabawas sa appreciation yun stock parts replacements. if you keep it as it is in ten years mag aapreciate payan and who knows baka maisipan mopa yan i liquidate diba. kung gusto mo pa mas hotter sound get a hotter guitar, dude sayang e! :-o

well, you can still change the PUs.  just keep the stock ones in case you'd want to sell this guitar all stock in the future.
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: psychic_sushi on March 21, 2007, 07:55:54 PM
minsan merong fender custom shop pickups sa perfect pitch.

but the rest of the brand names being thrown around? no... they'd have to be bought abroad.

+1 for that!

the fender CS pick ups are very very good. Great clean, and have a nice ring when overdriven, and quack better than daffy and donald can.  :wink:
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: tele-tubby on March 21, 2007, 10:47:35 PM
aren't the Fender OV series PUs from the Custom Shop?
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 22, 2007, 12:21:25 AM
tele-tubby, ano ba wood ng mga '57RI? sa'kin kc ndi ko alam kung basswood body nito or 2pc alder eh..bsta alam ko lng d2 eh 1pc maple neck, tpos sa neck may nksulat na 1-30-91 ( naka-lapis), meaning ito ung production date ng guitar ko.,ndi ko lng alam kung anong kahoy ang body nito.,
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: tele-tubby on March 22, 2007, 12:56:01 AM
tele-tubby, ano ba wood ng mga '57RI? sa'kin kc ndi ko alam kung basswood body nito or 2pc alder eh..bsta alam ko lng d2 eh 1pc maple neck, tpos sa neck may nksulat na 1-30-91 ( naka-lapis), meaning ito ung production date ng guitar ko.,ndi ko lng alam kung anong kahoy ang body nito.,

as far as I know, kung generic 50s or 60s RI na MIJ strat, basswood, 70s RI ash... kapag specific year yung RI, for example 54 RI (ash) or 57 RI (alder) at 62 RI (alder)... earler 90s tong mga to
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 22, 2007, 01:05:34 AM
so u mean alder ung body ng '57 ko?
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: erniebong on March 22, 2007, 11:51:35 AM
all 50's and 60's reissue mij strats are "Basswood" i still remember that ten years ago when guys from fender did the yearly products seminar here sa pinas when i was still with perfect pitch. at kung di ako nagkakamali 54 nga yang strat mo kasi 54 yung modelo na ginamit 50's reissue. and nilabas lang ng fender na reissues ay 50's 60's at 70's lang walang lumabas na per year. yun nga for the 50's 54 yun, sa 60's dko maalala, sa 70's 72 (large headstock at bullet rod). yan ang  mga standard production models kung meron mang lumabas na exact year replica, custom shop yun ewan ko lang kung may MIJ na ganun ang alam ko wala.  kung 57 yan at alder its iether custom shop replica na u.s nga yan o mismong vintage talaga :mrgreen:    may lumabas nga na alder MIJ pero 60's daw po according to mr sayson. kung 50's yan tapos alder body MIJ hindi yan standard production model. pwede siguro binuo nila sa Japan (neck ng 50's body ng 60's) kasi kung exact replica yan from custom shop may logo dapat ng CS.  kung 90's yan wala talaga akong alam na lumabas 57 replica e, yung nakikita ko sa pics e typical na 50's reissue. kung ganun nga man kakaiba yan Sayo. Ayus! post mo naman sir serial# sir tubby
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: mahavishnu on March 22, 2007, 01:55:01 PM
all 50s and  60s RI japan made strats are Basswood??
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 22, 2007, 01:56:29 PM
nung pinageneral set-up ko 'to kay arie, sbi ni arie.,'57 daw 'to.,ang '54 & '57 eh mgkpareho dw mismo pwera sa string tree, ung '54 daw eh bilog ang string tree, ung '57 eh butterfly.,kaya '57 daw 'to.,post ko pics ng '57 ko soon, eto serial num ng sakin eh.,J017936
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: tele-tubby on March 22, 2007, 02:34:07 PM
J014980 MIJ
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: erniebong on March 22, 2007, 02:47:36 PM
all 50s and  60s RI japan made strats are Basswood??

yun nga ang alam ko talaga ganoon, at lahat ng standard reissues MIJ talaga, vishnu mukang taga yupangco ka, tama ba yung J125-5000 strat n floyd yun alder yata, pero lahat ng replicas basswood talaga
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: erniebong on March 22, 2007, 04:20:07 PM
nung pinageneral set-up ko 'to kay arie, sbi ni arie.,'57 daw 'to.,ang '54 & '57 eh mgkpareho dw mismo pwera sa string tree, ung '54 daw eh bilog ang string tree, ung '57 eh butterfly.,kaya '57 daw 'to.,post ko pics ng '57 ko soon, eto serial num ng sakin eh.,J017936

Tama, i went back to my notes mismo parehas lang yung 57 at 54 except for the string guide but they are all basswood bukod lang sa mga 2 tone sunburts 2 piece alder nga sila. yung sa inyong dalawa was made in 1990. kung butterfly string guide 57 nga yun swerte nyo. yan ang mga last batch ng productions. pero maintain nyo na yan staggered alnico and stock pickups nyan ganda na yun kung blues at rock lang na togs
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 22, 2007, 04:23:44 PM
ah ok.,so malamang basswood to '57RI ko.,sabi din sakin kc ng isang friend eh basswood daw body nito.,na-confuse lng ako nung nakita ko sa thread na 'to na 2pc alder body.,hehehe
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: vansvhee on March 22, 2007, 04:37:00 PM
basswood yang syo ateng
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: maria athena on March 22, 2007, 04:43:34 PM
ngek.,2pc alder pla..,hahahah.,kulet
Title: Re: pups for my FENDER '57RI japan strat
Post by: vansvhee on March 23, 2007, 02:00:48 AM
nung pinageneral set-up ko 'to kay arie, sbi ni arie.,'57 daw 'to.,ang '54 & '57 eh mgkpareho dw mismo pwera sa string tree, ung '54 daw eh bilog ang string tree, ung '57 eh butterfly.,kaya '57 daw 'to.,post ko pics ng '57 ko soon, eto serial num ng sakin eh.,J017936

Tama, i went back to my notes mismo parehas lang yung 57 at 54 except for the string guide but they are all basswood bukod lang sa mga 2 tone sunburts 2 piece alder nga sila. yung sa inyong dalawa was made in 1990. kung butterfly string guide 57 nga yun swerte nyo. yan ang mga last batch ng productions. pero maintain nyo na yan staggered alnico and stock pickups nyan ganda na yun kung blues at rock lang na togs



hehehehe.,2pc alder pla.,hehehe.,ganda ng tunog.,di ko n papakawalan 'to.,hehe