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Title: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: leira on March 20, 2007, 02:49:54 AM

Mga master ANO DISadvantage and advantages pag ngpprcte sa pillow or drumpad?...tnx!

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: prjm14 on March 20, 2007, 05:59:58 AM

sabi daw nila pag sa pillow.. mas maganda kasi di ka aasa sa talbog ng stick.. madedevelop ung double stroke mo.. hehe

sa drumpad naman.. madaling patalbugin ung stick dba? mas madaling madevelop ung stick control..

pero dko sure ah.. based lang sa experience ko..

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: Diadem on March 20, 2007, 07:38:53 AM

same here pillow muna.. yun daw sabi nila eh..

graduate ko muna sa pillow tapos yun na the real thing..

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: phfreq on March 20, 2007, 07:43:59 AM

napansin ko lang nung puro pillow ginamit ko, pagdating sa drum pad or sa tunay na drums, parang ang lakas ng palo ko.. Parang nawawala ang dynamics..

Maganda siguro ang pillow to build endurance pero pagdating sa control, mas maganda siguro ang practice pad or real drums na...

Siguro depende sa gusto mong i-develop na characteristic ng drumming skill...

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: intake on March 20, 2007, 08:58:48 AM

Quote from: phfreq on March 20, 2007, 07:43:59 AM

napansin ko lang nung puro pillow ginamit ko, pagdating sa drum pad or sa tunay na drums, parang ang lakas ng palo ko.. Parang nawawala ang dynamics..

Maganda siguro ang pillow to build endurance pero pagdating sa control, mas maganda siguro ang practice pad or real drums na...

Siguro depende sa gusto mong i-develop na characteristic ng drumming skill...

matagal ka na bang nagamit ng pillow? mag aadjust din yang palo mo pagtagal  :-)

try mo din yung drumpad...sa sahig...notebook etc. na pwede paluin para di ka masanay sa pillow lang, watcha think? ganun ang ginawa ko

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: jpmb on March 20, 2007, 10:03:35 AM

practice on both man...pillow and drumpads :wink:

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: phfreq on March 20, 2007, 11:17:03 AM

Quote from: intake on March 20, 2007, 08:58:48 AM

Quote from: phfreq on March 20, 2007, 07:43:59 AM

napansin ko lang nung puro pillow ginamit ko, pagdating sa drum pad or sa tunay na drums, parang ang lakas ng palo ko.. Parang nawawala ang dynamics..

Maganda siguro ang pillow to build endurance pero pagdating sa control, mas maganda siguro ang practice pad or real drums na...

Siguro depende sa gusto mong i-develop na characteristic ng drumming skill...

matagal ka na bang nagamit ng pillow? mag aadjust din yang palo mo pagtagal  :-)

try mo din yung drumpad...sa sahig...notebook etc. na pwede paluin para di ka masanay sa pillow lang, watcha think? ganun ang ginawa ko

ganon nga ang napansin ko.. kapag matagal na puro pillows lang (mga one or two weeks) tapos walang practice pad / tunay na drums, parang nawawala ung dynamics sa mga unang palo... Pero kung pareho (alternate) -- isang araw pillow, isang araw pads (basta lesser ang interval).. hindi masyado pansin na parang nababano sa dynamics...

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: aya_yuson on March 20, 2007, 11:21:07 AM

Meron namang nagsabi sa kin na kaya raw may pagka marumi't burabod/burara ang technique ni Dennis Chambers, dahil daw nasanay siya sa unan kaya di raw niya ma-control yung balik ng stick.

Ewan.

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: batangdramista on March 20, 2007, 07:14:12 PM

unan! para masanay yung wrist mo na mag roll! kase pag drum pad me tendency na mag bounce

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: rasta_gopz on March 20, 2007, 07:52:20 PM

i think mas maganda sa pillow kasi wala syang rebound so u realy have to work ur wrist on it pero depende din sa kind of pillow you'll be using

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: akosichok on March 20, 2007, 08:32:37 PM

unan pangpaganda ng chops  :-D

pad for stick control  :mrgreen:

so it's pillow and drumpad  :-D

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: MEdeA on March 21, 2007, 01:58:54 AM

tnx! po sa reply mga master...

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: pyong_2 on March 26, 2007, 01:03:39 AM

para sakin drumpad so di ka na magaadjust ng malaki pag tutugtog ka na kasi yung feel sa drumhead halos parehas na..GodBless

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: Kin on March 26, 2007, 11:42:17 AM

Quote from: jpmb on March 20, 2007, 10:03:35 AM

practice on both man...pillow and drumpads :wink:

+1

if I remember correctly Buddy Rich and Dennis Chambers practiced on a pillow to develop speed.

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: aya_yuson on March 26, 2007, 11:57:32 AM

Quote from: Kin on March 26, 2007, 11:42:17 AM

Quote from: jpmb on March 20, 2007, 10:03:35 AM

practice on both man...pillow and drumpads :wink:

+1

if I remember correctly Buddy Rich and Dennis Chambers practiced on a pillow to develop speed.

At sabi nga ng iba, kaya raw burara minsan si Chambers, dahil hindi niya ma-control yung balik ng sticks niya dahil nasanay nga sa unan.

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: Bammbamm on March 26, 2007, 12:27:22 PM

Kung kasing lambot ng unan yung drumhead na ginagamit ko, sa unan ako magppractice :-D

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: lil.drummerboy on March 29, 2007, 12:40:29 AM

practice mo parehas. paero pag maganda na yung control mo sa pillows tapos sa drum pad or sa drum set na talaga mas maganda ung control mo. kasi sa pillow nga na hindi tumatalbog na control mo. dun pa kaya sa tumatalbog hehhe.

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: Bammbamm on March 29, 2007, 05:19:28 PM

^^^^Im a believer of the Moeller Technique, o "bounce theory" Kaya yung drumhead ko, one year na, wala pa ding dents :wink:

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: pyong_2 on March 29, 2007, 09:43:40 PM

may point si li.drummer ipractice natin parehas...

Title: Re: PILLOW OR DRUMPAD?
Post by: autoexec on March 30, 2007, 12:33:51 AM

Quote from: lil.drummerboy on March 29, 2007, 12:40:29 AM

practice mo parehas. paero pag maganda na yung control mo sa pillows tapos sa drum pad or sa drum set na talaga mas maganda ung control mo. kasi sa pillow nga na hindi tumatalbog na control mo. dun pa kaya sa tumatalbog hehhe.

Ako kontroladong kontrolado ko sa unan. Pero pag sa practice pad na hirap na ko sa mga rudiments. Kaya sa tingin ko hindi porkit ok ang strokes mo sa unan eh ok na din sa practice pad or snare drum. Yes lalakas ang wrist mo sa unan pero hindi naman siya masasanay sa natural bounce sa totoong drum.
just my opinion. ;)