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Title: The Moeller Technique Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on June 10, 2007, 01:17:50 PM
hey guys.. dito niyo na isulat ang mga knowledge niyo about this.. dame kasi nagtatanung.. kaya pag may nagtanung.. irefer niyo dito sa thread na ito... moeller technique was invented by that moeller guy.. forgot his 1st name,sorry.. and this guy taught jim chapin the technique.. jim chapin is the only guy who knows the proper execution of this technique when moeller died.. ayun.. moeller thechnique is about whipping motion of the sticks.. when u gain the facility of this technique.. you can play 3 to 4 strokes evenly in one whip stroke... 1 wrist stroke tpos ung motion ng kamay mo iguguide ung 2 bounce... with the downstroke ba un? kasi baliktad terminology nila... bsta parang whip.. di ko alam kung paano iexplain tlaga tong technique e.. i'm not good in explaining... hehe.. pass ko na sa iba... anyone? sir Dio? hehe.. hope this background info helps..
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: marko21 on June 10, 2007, 02:13:46 PM
Moeller method/technique :-D
Si Sanford Moeller yung nagturo kay Jim Chapin kung pano gawin :-D
Iba to sa bounce technique.. Dapat hand/wrist motion rin yung 2nd & 3rd stroke :-D
Mahirap gawin pero pag natutunan very helpful to :-D
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: palolo_worm on June 10, 2007, 02:26:52 PM
try ko din magshare:
ung first motion, un ung whip-like which is generated from the elbow, although an easier way to look at it is leading with your wrist. the second fundamental stroke is the tap, which is literally a tap. the last is the release, which is like a tap and upstroke. habang pataas arm mo, to make the next whip, a tap can still be generated by the wrist or fingers. so whip+tap+release = 3 strokes in a single motion. more strokes can be made by increasing the number of taps. sometimes, pull-out accents din tawag dun, lalo na kapag 2 strokes lang= tap then the whip motion (accent) then tap then accent.. etc.. hope this helps!
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: peeves24 on June 10, 2007, 02:34:33 PM
mas madali maintindihan kung panonoorin mo na lang kung pano gawin
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: harugrugrug on June 11, 2007, 12:20:53 AM
hehe.. tap pala.. hindi bounce... my bad... :-D
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: autoexec on June 11, 2007, 01:21:10 AM
bakit sabi ni derek pope bounce? hehe..
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: harugrugrug on June 11, 2007, 03:15:04 AM
tap nga xia.. sir kasi kung bounce... u just let ur stick fall... pag tap.. control mo pa din ung stick.. kakaobserve ko lang ngayon sa aking pad... kasi ung dalawang taps e control pa din ng wrist.. u just position ur hand para ,matap mo xia.. ayun.. kasi pag ginawa mo ung one handed roll... wrist tap din xia,same with the roots of moeller.. ayun...
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: palolo_worm on June 11, 2007, 10:07:31 AM
pagkakaalam ko rin tap. terminologies talaga, magulo. ahaha. ako naman, finger ung pangtap ko. nasanay na siguro.
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: vaisteen2003 on June 11, 2007, 11:16:27 AM
i was just discussing this with my drummer over the weekend. He told me he almost went nuts with this technique. check nyo to. this is by dave weckle. its actually nerve wracking but the tecnique is so efficient talga.
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: harugrugrug on June 11, 2007, 01:54:28 PM
eto! idol ko ito.. pero ganda ng pagawa niya ng moeller.. legato xia.. at controlled niya lahat ng stroke....
Title: Re: Moeller technique thread
Post by: drumster on July 25, 2007, 05:58:09 PM
Here's a simple yet effective explanation and demonstration regarding the Moeller technique, by Tony Royster Jr...
And another video demo, courtesy of master Dave Weckl...