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Title: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: MIG AYESA on July 04, 2007, 01:38:19 PM: Forumites!
I don't know much about computers, I just know how to use them.
Recently I decided to install AVG on my computer. My former antivirus (and still using) is PC cillin.
Then I noticed my computer is going nuts. Sudden pop-ups from both anti-virus. And my computer's BIOS is changed without my knowledge. And now my computer is booting from a floppy drive.

I fix my bios and then after a few days my BIOS is changed again. Hu hu hu!!!
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: jun_gats on July 05, 2007, 06:24:30 AM: theoretically you should be able to but I won't advise it. it might screw your computer. if it's an antivirus and spyware software you can definitely can but antivirus to antivirus I wouldn't if I were you. :-D
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: QBERT (BERT QUITEVEZ) on July 05, 2007, 01:38:38 PM: GINAWA MO UN?!!
MAGLOLOKO TALAGA COMPUTER MO, KASI ANG MGA ANTIVIRUS RESIDENT NA SA COMPUTER MO YAN. DURING INSTALLATION WLA BANG LUMABAS NA WARNING SA WINDOWS?
DAPT I-DELETE MO MUNA ANG ISA, BAGO IN-STALL UNG BAGO MONG ANTI-VIRUS.
TRY MO I-DELETE SA CONTROL PANEL UNG ISA. THAT SHOULD FIX IT.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: bugoy on July 06, 2007, 03:13:18 PM: wala naman ako nakikita prob aside sa madadagdagan load ng cpu mo kasi 2 programs are running sa background medyo babagal ng konti. tanggalin mo na lang yung pc cillian AVG is good enough and napaka user friendly been using it 3 yrs na yata ? walang kaarte arte straight to the point ang AVG ehehe
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: cowbhoy on July 09, 2007, 05:06:53 PM: Quote from: bugoy on July 06, 2007, 03:13:18 PM
wala naman ako nakikita prob aside sa madadagdagan load ng cpu mo kasi 2 programs are running sa background medyo babagal ng konti. tanggalin mo na lang yung pc cillian AVG is good enough and napaka user friendly been using it 3 yrs na yata ? walang kaarte arte straight to the point ang AVG ehehe
+ 1000 :-D
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Al_Librero on July 10, 2007, 09:40:48 AM: prone to conflicts yung analyses ng dalawang anti-virus packages pag pinagsabay mo. depending on the software, one of them will probably block the other from functioning properly, anyway. so there's really no point in running two simultaneously. just pick the one you trust the most.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: hardcore misery on July 11, 2007, 03:21:57 PM: hindi naman talaga dapat gumagamit ng dalawang anti-virus.. nabasa ko yan sa site ng norton anti-virus eh... its either i treat ng isang anti-virus mo yung another anti-virus mo as virus(gulo :-D)

reformat ka na sir...
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: marzi on July 12, 2007, 08:16:31 PM: isa lang repapips...

sino ba ang may gusto ng dalawang asawa na parehong nagsisigawan sa isat-isa?
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Darktwistedmind on July 18, 2007, 06:34:11 AM: Normally nagkakaroon ng conflict kapag 2 antivirus sa isang PC lalo na kung gamit mo yung PC-cillin, dapat walang ibang AV na nakainstall sa PC or else you have to uninstall them both (even clear the registry) then install which ever you like best.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: paquitz on July 19, 2007, 04:21:48 AM: Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. It depends specially if they both have firewalls. And if the IRQ got some conflicts. Pinoy tayo so we don't need two anti-virus. If your having a hard time removing a program try to download Windows Installer Clean up Utility. Sa support.microsoft.com. Para din syang add/remove programs but not dependent on MSI
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on July 29, 2007, 03:34:03 AM: 2 anti-virus program is not recomended in a pc...It would have a great conflict...good luck. :-D
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 03:47:21 AM: normally tatanggalin nang installer yung isang antivirus..

ittreat kasi nila na virus ang isat isa..

ako nde na ako nag aantivirus software

i just go to this website

http://www.pandasoftware.com (http://www.pandasoftware.com)

tapos may free scanning sya, since free, nde nya buburahin, pero sasabihin niya location nung virus..

tanggalin mo na lang..

kapag yung location ay may hkey hkey blah blah, ibig sabihin nasa registries yun..

pag gnun punta ka sa Start>run>type mo regedit then treat the "location" (yung may hkey hkey) as folders sa regeditor.. burahin mo lang pa rin...

minsan, search mo sa net pangalan nang virus, tapos may mahahanap kang ways kung pano tanggalin

ayoko na mag antivirus kasi malakas kumain nang memory nang pc
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: KitC on July 30, 2007, 12:26:33 PM: Quote from: D3m1tr1 on July 29, 2007, 03:34:03 AM
2 anti-virus program is not recomended in a pc...It would have a great conflict...good luck. :-D

Definitely not recommended, but you can with a few caveats. Since my DAW is connected to the net, I have to use relatively lightweight, but very well recommended scanners; that means no Norton and McAfee which install a lot of unneeded gunk. I've used Antivir, AVG, and now I'm using AOL's free Active Virus Shield. I also downloaded Clamwin for windows, an opensource scanner, but I removed it from my startup services so it's now an "on-call" scanner - parang 2nd opinion. Both update their virus data but only AOL is working with TSR file scanning to capture potential hijacks. An example are those viruses that attach themselves to usb sticks and mp3 players, esp. iPods.

Most AV installers request that you uninstall an existing AV software if you will install a different one. That practical reason is because they include TSR file scanning, which does take up resources, but often works in the background. By disabling their startup script in msconfig, you can have as many AV progs as you want, but only elect to have one active at any given time, as I have done above.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: glassjaw_jc on July 30, 2007, 12:42:00 PM: The AOL free anti-virus is based on kapersky right? Kit, since you've tried AVG, which of the 2 do you prefer? pros and cons?
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: KitC on July 30, 2007, 12:50:51 PM: Quote from: glassjaw_jc on July 30, 2007, 12:42:00 PM
The AOL free anti-virus is based on kapersky right? Kit, since you've tried AVG, which of the 2 do you prefer? pros and cons?

AOL seems lighter on resources than AVG. My basis is with my DAW. If I get crackles during playback with the AV active, then that prog gets uninstalled. NOD32 was among the best but resource intensive kaya it had to go. Antivir didn't use up a lot but there were some minor worms that were not detected; same with AVG. So far, AOL has held up well but then again, I also have a rootkit scanner and Clamwin on the side, just in case. I also check my services every so often for unusual TSR's.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 03:34:44 PM: nde nga maganda AVG eh..

marami siyang nde pinapakita.. (syempre free eh)

pag icompare mo ang AVG sa pandasoftware.com sobrang laki nang difference..
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: kaloyster on July 30, 2007, 08:26:28 PM: Kanya-kanyang perspective lang yan.

AVG is best for my PC.

For my Mac, none. I don't need antivirus.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Indie_Boy on July 30, 2007, 09:47:28 PM: AVG & Avast does the job.. Don't Install Both.. :-D
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 10:37:03 PM: Quote from: kaloyster on July 30, 2007, 08:26:28 PM
Kanya-kanyang perspective lang yan.

AVG is best for my PC.

For my Mac, none. I don't need antivirus.

well i dont think so.. :-P kasi yun AVG maraming d tinatanggal na malware at spyware..

d tulad nung pandasoftware nga na d man nya tatanggalin, ipapakita naman nya kung nasaan..

and, aside from Mac, kung ayaw niyo mavirus talaga.. Linux is the answer.. ahahaha
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: hardcore misery on July 30, 2007, 11:02:43 PM: avast ang gamit ko ngayon, no problems so far..
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on July 30, 2007, 11:44:04 PM: kanya kanyang choices lang yana, kung ano okay pra sa pc ng owner...basta ako NAV parin...God bless all! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 11:45:14 PM: mabagal kasi NAV eh.. lakas kumain nang memory...
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Al_Librero on July 31, 2007, 11:11:54 AM: Quote from: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: kaloyster on July 30, 2007, 08:26:28 PM
Kanya-kanyang perspective lang yan.

AVG is best for my PC.

For my Mac, none. I don't need antivirus.

well i dont think so.. :-P kasi yun AVG maraming d tinatanggal na malware at spyware..

d tulad nung pandasoftware nga na d man nya tatanggalin, ipapakita naman nya kung nasaan..

and, aside from Mac, kung ayaw niyo mavirus talaga.. Linux is the answer.. ahahaha
just to clarify, malware and spyware by themselves aren't viruses. wala talaga sa functions ng AVG Free yun.

before you trash AVG, ayusin mo muna yung comparison mo. Panda Antivirus is a commercial software package. Dun mo siya itapat sa counterpart product ng AVG.

and besides, even if AVG Free can't detect adware and spyware, that's what Ad-Aware and Spybot are for.

anyway, kanya kanya talagang preferences to. i prefer to stick with freeware until the time i can afford something better.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: starfugger on July 31, 2007, 11:18:39 AM: also try kaspersky, pretty good. dami syang nahuhuli sa pc ko compared sa dating avg or avast it wont let you install a second anti-virus though, jealous type :)
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on July 31, 2007, 01:08:39 PM: Quote from: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 11:45:14 PM
mabagal kasi NAV eh.. lakas kumain nang memory...

True...Pero kung mataas naman ang memory na nakalagay sa pc...it won't be a problem. :-)

Tip: kung marami nka active sa system tray na programs, lakas din kumain ng memory yun, so better to turn off some programs from the system tray, by doing that, you can do it sa "msconfig". So hinidi na mag load yung mga programs na hindi naman ginagamit everyday pag boot ng pc.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Al_Librero on August 01, 2007, 01:05:35 AM: Well, if you want a "strict" anti-virus software, Kapersky is the way to go. Hehehehe.

Part of the appeal of AVG is the very small footprint. Panalo when it comes to resource-starved systems.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 01, 2007, 01:09:00 AM: Quote from: Al_Librero on July 31, 2007, 11:11:54 AM
Quote from: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: kaloyster on July 30, 2007, 08:26:28 PM
Kanya-kanyang perspective lang yan.

AVG is best for my PC.

For my Mac, none. I don't need antivirus.

well i dont think so.. :-P kasi yun AVG maraming d tinatanggal na malware at spyware..

d tulad nung pandasoftware nga na d man nya tatanggalin, ipapakita naman nya kung nasaan..

and, aside from Mac, kung ayaw niyo mavirus talaga.. Linux is the answer.. ahahaha
just to clarify, malware and spyware by themselves aren't viruses. wala talaga sa functions ng AVG Free yun.

before you trash AVG, ayusin mo muna yung comparison mo. Panda Antivirus is a commercial software package. Dun mo siya itapat sa counterpart product ng AVG.

and besides, even if AVG Free can't detect adware and spyware, that's what Ad-Aware and Spybot are for.

anyway, kanya kanya talagang preferences to. i prefer to stick with freeware until the time i can afford something better.
yeah hindi mo talaga pwede makumpara ang AVG sa panda... malayo ang comparison...

im using AVG.. sa dinami dami ng naging anti virus ko before dito lang ako nasiyahan.. tagal ko ng ginagamit to hindi pa ko napapasukan ng kahit anong virus..
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on August 01, 2007, 02:09:19 AM: Quote from: Al_Librero on July 31, 2007, 11:11:54 AM
Quote from: danj0 on July 30, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: kaloyster on July 30, 2007, 08:26:28 PM
Kanya-kanyang perspective lang yan.

AVG is best for my PC.

For my Mac, none. I don't need antivirus.

well i dont think so.. :-P kasi yun AVG maraming d tinatanggal na malware at spyware..

d tulad nung pandasoftware nga na d man nya tatanggalin, ipapakita naman nya kung nasaan..

and, aside from Mac, kung ayaw niyo mavirus talaga.. Linux is the answer.. ahahaha
just to clarify, malware and spyware by themselves aren't viruses. wala talaga sa functions ng AVG Free yun.

before you trash AVG, ayusin mo muna yung comparison mo. Panda Antivirus is a commercial software package. Dun mo siya itapat sa counterpart product ng AVG.

and besides, even if AVG Free can't detect adware and spyware, that's what Ad-Aware and Spybot are for.

anyway, kanya kanya talagang preferences to. i prefer to stick with freeware until the time i can afford something better.

bago mo ako pagsabihan, nde ko tinatrash ang AVG, nagrerecommend lang ako nang something better..

at sana bago mo pinost yan, inalam mo muna nang mabuti.. ahehe..

commercial din naman AVG ah..

pero like AVG, may FREE VERSION ang panda antivirus at nasa website nila yun..

(kaya nga nililista lang directories nang virus eh, kasi free. bibili ka ba nang antivirus na nde nagbubura? nde dba? :-D)

nde bat mas ok na magawa na nang isang program lahat nang kelangan mong gawin?

kaysa kumuha ka pa nang sangkaterbang program para isaisahin mga bagay na pwedeng gawin nang isang program..

sige nga hayaan mong puro malware at spyware ang pc mo kung di sya "virus" para sayo... ahahaha..

ginamit ko na yang three before (AVG, Ad-Aware, Spybot).. mas ok sa akin ang pandasoftware talaga..

at oo alam ko, dati pa, ewan kung bat inuulit ulit niyo, nagrerecommend lang naman ako,

kanya kanyang preference..
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: KitC on August 01, 2007, 11:09:36 AM: Ok, ok... let's not turn this into a "my AV is better than your AV", ok? Use what works for you. FYI, I tried out panda but it didn't make the grade because my DAW complained so it's a case-to-case basis. Just use what works, ppl!
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on August 01, 2007, 12:56:59 PM: don't worry.. ahehe..

sa pc ko lang talaga ginagamit ang pandasoftware..
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Al_Librero on August 01, 2007, 05:16:57 PM: As far as I'm concerned, the point of contention is not which is better... but the fairness of the comparison, sir Kit.

Ok, danj0... I'll try to make this easier to understand.

Duh, Grisoft sells software. Everyone who downloads AVG Free knows that. They just happen to put out some freeware to entice customers with greater demands. Panda has nothing that competes with that. If I'm wrong, please give the URL of the free thing you're talking about. Ang nakikita ko lang kasi e yung online scanner nila (Activescan).

Now, as for Pandasoftware Antivirus (http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/solutions/antivirus/?sitepanda=particulares), the AVG counterpart I was hinting on was AVG Internet Security (http://www2.grisoft.com/doc/products-avg-internet-security/us/crp/2). So, if you want to compare, use these two packages.

On another note, I use AVG, Ad-Aware (the new version looks cool) and Spybot myself. And I'm happy with them. The only attack that got through me in several years of use was the Lipa thing on IE. And that caught just about all protection software by surprise.

Though admittedly, I'd probably try this other anti-spyware whose name escapes me at the moment once I can afford to pay for it. Or maybe pay for Ad-Aware for real-time protection if it proves to be a good product.

All-in-one software packages are great assuming they can handle all its functionality really effectively. Such isn't always the case, in my experience (not with Panda). Anyways, it's great that you can actually afford to pay for that.

Finally, if I was the only one who insinuated that you were putting down AVG Free, I'd apologize. Fortunately for me, that is not the case. Phrases like, nde nga maganda AVG eh.. kinda gave us that impression. Fine, I'll take note if you're the one saying that. hahahaha.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on August 01, 2007, 08:21:22 PM: ok.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: zxildjian on August 02, 2007, 09:20:37 AM: sir.bkit ung sa akin AVG at symantec pro d nmn nag-aaway...?tnx sa inu kc nagka-idea ako..4 you sir KitC,cno ang dapat i-remove?
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: KitC on August 02, 2007, 01:18:41 PM: Quote from: zxildjian on August 02, 2007, 09:20:37 AM
sir.bkit ung sa akin AVG at symantec pro d nmn nag-aaway...?tnx sa inu kc nagka-idea ako..4 you sir KitC,cno ang dapat i-remove?

Norton... must go... too much installed crapware. Seriously, though, kung walang slowdown sa performance ng pc mo, why bother? But given a choice... Norton talaga.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on August 02, 2007, 01:28:30 PM: The trick with norton naman is add more memory eh. :-D
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: danj0 on August 02, 2007, 04:26:52 PM: meron pa pala trendmicro

puro mga browser embedded antivirus gamit ko kasi ayoko nag maginstall install pa..

ahehe..

libre din, at ok din

uh, kaya ko sinabing nde maganda AVG, kasi marami siyang nde nadedetect, kahit samahan mo pa nang Ad-Aware, at spybot..
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Al_Librero on August 02, 2007, 04:33:45 PM: yes, you've already said that like three times. we've noted your experience :-D

Quote from: KitC on August 02, 2007, 01:18:41 PM

Quote from: zxildjian on August 02, 2007, 09:20:37 AM
sir.bkit ung sa akin AVG at symantec pro d nmn nag-aaway...?tnx sa inu kc nagka-idea ako..4 you sir KitC,cno ang dapat i-remove?

Norton... must go... too much installed crapware. Seriously, though, kung walang slowdown sa performance ng pc mo, why bother? But given a choice... Norton talaga.
Hehehe. Walang slowdown yan... until you start a big application where speed matters. :lol:
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: glassjaw_jc on August 06, 2007, 06:53:18 PM: ayus ah.. hehehehe... easy lang peeps. :-D

The question was DAW specific that's why I asked KitC.

Thanks Kit
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: KitC on August 06, 2007, 09:42:16 PM: You're welcome, glassjaw_jc.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: Anthria on August 07, 2007, 01:42:12 PM: Kung ayaw nyo mag antivirus... mag Linux na lang kayo! hehehe .. ubuntu! galeng! :lol:
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: glassjaw_jc on August 07, 2007, 03:08:55 PM: actually, kung ayaw mo mag-antivirus, wag ka mag computer :evil:
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on August 07, 2007, 03:10:09 PM: Here is an add on...try this..."Uniblue SpyEraser" ka-partner ng microsoft yan.

UniBlue SpyEraser Info:
http://www.liutilities.com/news/pressrelease/release26/

UniBlue SpyEraser specs:
http://www.liutilities.com/products/spyeraser/

Meron pa kasama na dalawa yan...UniBlue speedupmypc & UniBlue Registry Booster.

Enjoy...

God bless...
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: KitC on August 07, 2007, 03:54:43 PM: So... I take it you're a fully registered user of Uniblue and Pandasoftware? Did you use paypal when you bought your software?
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on August 07, 2007, 05:36:07 PM: Quote from: KitC on August 07, 2007, 03:54:43 PM
So... I take it you're a fully registered user of Uniblue and Pandasoftware? Did you use paypal when you bought your software?

Only Uniblue and not panda software, I didn't mention anything about panda software. I didn't use paypal for it. Have some relatives from the US visiting every year, so my uncle bought it for me, I don't use credit cards specialy online.

God bless. :-)
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: KitC on August 07, 2007, 06:51:01 PM: Sorry, I got you mixed up with another poster.

Glad to hear you got the Uniblue. Would be nice if they had a freebie but I guess the trial version will do.

Yeah, I hate giving out card numbers over the net too.

Peace!
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on August 07, 2007, 06:55:28 PM: No problem sir. :-)
God bless.
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: hardcore misery on August 08, 2007, 03:27:22 PM: Quote from: D3m1tr1 on August 07, 2007, 03:10:09 PM
Here is an add on...try this..."Uniblue SpyEraser" ka-partner ng microsoft yan.

UniBlue SpyEraser Info:
http://www.liutilities.com/news/pressrelease/release26/

UniBlue SpyEraser specs:
http://www.liutilities.com/products/spyeraser/

Meron pa kasama na dalawa yan...UniBlue speedupmypc & UniBlue Registry Booster.

Enjoy...

God bless...

kakainstall ko lang nito...

question: july 24 2007 ba talaga latest update nito?

thanks!
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: D3m1tr1 on August 08, 2007, 09:11:06 PM: Quote from: hardcore misery on August 08, 2007, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: D3m1tr1 on August 07, 2007, 03:10:09 PM
Here is an add on...try this..."Uniblue SpyEraser" ka-partner ng microsoft yan.

UniBlue SpyEraser Info:
http://www.liutilities.com/news/pressrelease/release26/

UniBlue SpyEraser specs:
http://www.liutilities.com/products/spyeraser/

Meron pa kasama na dalawa yan...UniBlue speedupmypc & UniBlue Registry Booster.

Enjoy...

God bless...

kakainstall ko lang nito...

question: july 24 2007 ba talaga latest update nito?

thanks!

It was announced:december 14 2006, ang alam ko 2007, dunno what month...
Title: Re: Can I use 2 antivirus program for my pc?
Post by: drummer_boy17 on August 09, 2007, 10:59:19 AM: pag anti-virus isa lang pwede