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Title: drum track recording
Post by: guernica on November 28, 2007, 08:36:05 AM
paadvice naman po, pano kayo nagrerecord ng isang malinis ng track? kelangan ba talagang simplified lahat ng palo na gagawin mo at ung mga fills? di ko kasi maachieve ung masyadong malinis sa recording although may metronome ako, inconsistent parin ung mga nagagawa kong fills... advise naman po.
Title: Re: drum recordings
Post by: daemonite on November 28, 2007, 08:48:08 AM
paadvice naman po, pano kayo nagrerecord ng isang malinis ng track? kelangan ba talagang simplified lahat ng palo na gagawin mo at ung mga fills? di ko kasi maachieve ung masyadong malinis sa recording although may metronome ako, inconsistent parin ung mga nagagawa kong fills... advise naman po.

I've tried recording with a metro, tsaka walang metro. So far, mas nailalabas ko yung fills ko kapag wala metro kasi wala kang inaalala at tunog mo lang naririnig mo. Pero that's just me, kasi I play pop. I think kelangan talaga sa Prog ang metro. If you can do notes, i-notate mo na lang fills mo. If not, subukan mo i-pitik left foot mo, gawin mo metro without affecting the hats. ganyan ginawa ko sa isang song namin. I hope that helped.
Title: Re: drum recordings
Post by: MacoySIN on November 28, 2007, 08:56:43 AM
practice lang dude. gawin mo yung gusto mo gawin but be sure na malinis na sya bago mo irecord. and siguro sana ibagay mo din yung fills dun sa beats mo and sa songs na ginagawa nyo para consistent talaga yung tunog nya. baka kasi rock groove yung mga songs nyo pero yung fills pang death metal hehehe! isa pa pala is yung dynamics, try mo medyo lakasan ng konti yung mga fills para lumabas sya. pero konti lang hehe. stay ka lang sa groove, with or without the metronome.
Title: Re: drum recordings
Post by: guernica on November 28, 2007, 02:33:25 PM
wow galing ng advise tnx bro, aralin ko muna mga fills ng mga kanta, mejo nagkakapare pareho kasi ung ginagawa ko sa ibang kanta, dapat ko muna praktisin.. tnx tnx
Title: Re: drum track recording
Post by: maplesyrup on November 29, 2007, 07:42:22 AM
di kasi gumagamit ng metronome yung isa dyan! hahahahaha! :lol:

basta ako pag recording.. gusto ko simple lang palo ko! hindi namang simple na walang kalatoylatoy... simple lang...tama lang para sa kanta! tsaka minsan di mo kailangang masyadong maraming fills sa kanta... kung ano lang hinihingi ng kanta yun ang ibigay mong palo..pero di masamang magdagdag. wag lang sobra! kasi O.A na!  di katulad ng ibang drummer . masyadong maraming fills and so000 flashy.. (parang si macoy! hahahahah! joke lang! malufet yan! stop the panic! SOS.) kasi nakikita ko sa ibang drummers! lalo na yung mga baguhan ang dami daming fills na di naman kailangan talaga... well... sorry kun may nasasagasaan! sa tingin ko lang naman! basta sakin! importante malinis yung palo mo! nasa tamang bilis ka.. may metro o wala.. mararamdaman mo naman kasi kung bumibilis ka! yun lang ! bow!
Title: Re: drum track recording
Post by: vaisteen2003 on November 29, 2007, 12:43:01 PM
paadvice naman po, pano kayo nagrerecord ng isang malinis ng track? kelangan ba talagang simplified lahat ng palo na gagawin mo at ung mga fills? di ko kasi maachieve ung masyadong malinis sa recording although may metronome ako, inconsistent parin ung mga nagagawa kong fills... advise naman po.

if you are having difficulties recording with a metronome, i suggest you ask your bandmates to record scratch tracks and then use that as your guide, at least it give you that live band feel, another thing is record the song by parts, lets say chorus muna then verse and last but definitely not the least PRACTICE. Im a guitar player pero everytime meron ako free time i go to a studio with my ipod and play. before you now it youll be really comfortable playing with click tracks.
Title: Re: drum track recording
Post by: daemonite on November 29, 2007, 12:47:01 PM
if you are having difficulties recording with a metronome, i suggest you ask your bandmates to record scratch tracks and then use that as your guide, at least it give you that live band feel, another thing is record the song by parts, lets say chorus muna then verse and last but definitely not the least PRACTICE. Im a guitar player pero everytime meron ako free time i go to a studio with my ipod and play. before you now it youll be really comfortable playing with click tracks.

ganito ginawa namin nung unang single namin. hirap pa kasi ako noon kasi inconsistent pa palo ko. di pa ako nag-aral ke JP nun eh. nyahaha.

pero yung latest recording namin for a morning show dito sa province namin, di na ako gumamit ng metronome. mabilisan na recording kasi....
Title: Re: drum track recording
Post by: ushuaia on November 30, 2007, 12:52:49 AM
i think kung gagamit ka ng scratch,saka by part ang rec nyo. the more kelangan ng click track. hirap at sumabay sa tracks na bumiilis o bumabagal. imo mas importante sa pop and click o steady time,kaysa jazz o fusion etc. isipin mo lang kabanda mo ung click na sobrang ganda ang time,at kung magre2kord kayo na naka click dapat lahat nakaka rinig ng click. otherwise kung may kabanda ka na medyo bumabagal o bumibilis mahihirapan ka o kaya patayin mo sa monitor un
Title: Drum tracking
Post by: EF on June 18, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
hi question po. i may be off topic pasesnya na.
i wanna know kung saan po maganda and affordable pag studio recording ng drum tracks around metro manila. thank you so much!
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
hi question po. i may be off topic pasesnya na.
i wanna know kung saan po maganda and affordable pag studio recording ng drum tracks around metro manila. thank you so much!


first, budget niyo sir? tapos anong type of tugtugan. next is preferred location. :)
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: EF on June 18, 2014, 04:22:52 PM
we're planning to record just one song. so budget namin is 500-800 pesos max. location basta around edsa. qc or makati. thank you!
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 04:27:30 PM
we're planning to record just one song. so budget namin is 500-800 pesos max. location basta around edsa. qc or makati. thank you!


You can try Blackbox studios MAKATI.

http://www.blackboxmusicstudio.com/

You can talk to the guy and explain that you will be recording drum tracks only para lower rates.
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: EF on June 18, 2014, 04:28:43 PM
awesome sir! thank you!
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 04:31:22 PM
awesome sir! thank you!

you can also search for POINTBEE MULTIMEDIA (QC) and SOUNDKITCHEN(QC) as well.

my advise is to negotiate with the studio owners on the rates since you'll only be doing drum tracks.your budget is low btw bro so you might want to level your expectations. :)


ano bang tugtugan niyo bro?
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: IncX on June 18, 2014, 04:35:42 PM
we're planning to record just one song. so budget namin is 500-800 pesos max. location basta around edsa. qc or makati. thank you!

800 php for everything? ... hmmm, medyo kulang. even in davao standards, mahirap yan.

try recording live with a zoom q3 na lang muna.
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: EF on June 18, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
hi.  :)  let's say 800/hr for drum recording. di enough yun?  :-(
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 04:41:51 PM
hi.  :)  let's say 800/hr for drum recording. di enough yun?  :-(

ay. ayan pwede na yan. hahahaha
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: IncX on June 18, 2014, 04:48:08 PM
hi.  :)  let's say 800/hr for drum recording. di enough yun?  :-(

ahh pwedeng pwede yun. depending on the song, and how good you are playing with a metronome, baka nga may sukli ka pa dyan. yun nga lang, you have to be bestfriends with a metronome
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 04:49:53 PM
ahh pwedeng pwede yun. depending on the song, and how good you are playing with a metronome, baka nga may sukli ka pa dyan. yun nga lang, you have to be bestfriends with a metronome

+1. kung pulis ang engineer mo, meaning perfectionist, baka abutin ka ng 3-4 hours drum tracks palang.
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: EF on June 18, 2014, 04:54:15 PM
yun din yung pineprepare ko as a drummer. sticking with the metronome.  :-D pero we'll try a solution by using a full band live recording as a backing track while recording drums. effective ba yun? given na yung song was played perfectly live.  :)
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
yun din yung pineprepare ko as a drummer. sticking with the metronome.  :-D pero we'll try a solution by using a full band live recording as a backing track while recording drums. effective ba yun? given na yung song was played perfectly live.  :)

my advice, pre-record a rhythm guitar and bass track with click track.
then ibigay mo yun sa recording guy mo, sabihin mo you'll play along with that one.
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: IncX on June 18, 2014, 05:03:21 PM
yun din yung pineprepare ko as a drummer. sticking with the metronome.  :-D pero we'll try a solution by using a full band live recording as a backing track while recording drums. effective ba yun? given na yung song was played perfectly live.  :)

the only way you can say the song was played perfectly live is if you all played along to a metronome.

actually, kahit nga may metronome, most of the time, di pa rin talaga perfect, hehe.

as to answer your question: nope, you cant use the live playing as your backing track. sakit sa ulo sa mixing nyan. although technically, pwede naman ... pero yun nga, sobrang sakit lang sa ulo sa mixing
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 05:21:12 PM
the only way you can say the song was played perfectly live is if you all played along to a metronome.

actually, kahit nga may metronome, most of the time, di pa rin talaga perfect, hehe.

as to answer your question: nope, you cant use the live playing as your backing track. sakit sa ulo sa mixing nyan. although technically, pwede naman ... pero yun nga, sobrang sakit lang sa ulo sa mixing

+1. as ive said, playalong track na dapat played with a metro.
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: EF on June 18, 2014, 05:28:38 PM
got it! thank you so much awesome people!  :)
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
got it! thank you so much awesome people!  :)

alright man! let us know if you have further questions pa! :D
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: harugrugrug on June 18, 2014, 08:12:48 PM
Habol lang you could try the studio of Paolo vivas aka peeves.he CAN produce kickass drum sounds IMO. ^-^ it's in muntinlupa
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 19, 2014, 10:27:12 AM
Habol lang you could try the studio of Paolo vivas aka peeves.he can't produce kickass drum sounds IMO. ^-^ it's in muntinlupa



anak ng tokwa naman alvin eh =)) patayin mo na yung autocorrect mo =)) can't produce HAHAHAAHAHAH
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: peeves24 on June 19, 2014, 10:30:26 AM
ouch  :-(
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 19, 2014, 10:42:56 AM
ouch  :-(


HAHAHAHAHAHA awwwwww peeves! =))
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: harugrugrug on June 19, 2014, 09:05:22 PM
ouch  :-(

Sorry pao! He CAN! Sorryyyyy! Panu ba supilin ang auto correct? Haha!
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: harugrugrug on June 19, 2014, 10:27:31 PM
Modified my message,a sincere apology to mister Paolo Vivas for my grammar there.sorry :-\
Title: Re: Drum tracking
Post by: samuelfianza on July 18, 2014, 03:01:44 PM
Kung robot ka at 1 take lang, sapat na yang 800 pesos mo.

Ano bang genre nyo? Kung Punk rock or straightforward arrangements lang kanta nyo, wag ka na mag metronome.