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Title: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: digitalcyco on March 24, 2008, 05:07:27 PM
edited

I recently acquired the unit from a friend (correct term would be borrowed for a long long time) and had a few problems installing it.

As it turns out my not-so-genuine version of Windows XP Service Pack 3 does not support some plug and play drivers, probable cause is lack of drivers pre-installed with it for generic USB Audio interfaces. I got it to work by downloading from the site the necessary drivers and re-installing it all over again.

I plugged it another computer, to my laptop and installation worked instantly without having to download any drivers at all.

Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 24, 2008, 05:12:48 PM
post edited.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: KitC on March 24, 2008, 10:43:12 PM
Good you got it figured out. Happy recording!

Instead of me locking this thread, why not share with us your review of that UCA once you discover what it can do. I'm sure people will be interested.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 25, 2008, 06:20:55 AM
Good you got it figured out. Happy recording!

Instead of me locking this thread, why not share with us your review of that UCA once you discover what it can do. I'm sure people will be interested.

sure! I will post a review for it when I am done testing with it later today.

yesterday I had problems how to use it, it turned out I i needed to install another set of drivers and it worked fine.

Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: r0nd0gg on March 25, 2008, 10:22:24 AM
Sir... wag muna Lock... baka pareho tayo ng problema... pa share naman ng tips... hehehehe...

anong driver ang kailangan iinstall... i have installed the ASIO blah blah blah... i think may problems pa rin sa mga settings..

ok naman yung playback from Media Player...

waaaaaaaa.. nallito na ako..

Adobe Audition po yung gamit ko...

Help... pls... hehehehe

Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 25, 2008, 10:31:00 AM
Sir... wag muna Lock... baka pareho tayo ng problema... pa share naman ng tips... hehehehe...

anong driver ang kailangan iinstall... i have installed the ASIO blah blah blah... i think may problems pa rin sa mga settings..

ok naman yung playback from Media Player...

waaaaaaaa.. nallito na ako..

Adobe Audition po yung gamit ko...

Help... pls... hehehehe



when you download off the site there are two setup files. What I did was installed both of them and it worked.

the only problem Im having now is having no "monitor" output during recording, but im trying to figure it out on my own as of the moment hehehe

Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: peeves24 on March 25, 2008, 10:35:17 AM
napagana nyo yung asio driver? mine never did work with it. pansin nyo ba na maxxed out palagi yung cpu kapag asio?

wdm lang ginagamit ko and i dont have problems with it kahit sa monitoring
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 25, 2008, 10:37:59 AM
btw im running a fairly decent 16 channel RMB mixer then route the two REC stereo outputs to the USB audio interface.

the downside is, the drums arent in multitrack and we hope to upgrade to M-Audio interfaces when we have saved enough again.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 25, 2008, 10:39:18 AM
napagana nyo yung asio driver? mine never did work with it. pansin nyo ba na maxxed out palagi yung cpu kapag asio?

wdm lang ginagamit ko and i dont have problems with it kahit sa monitoring

im not sure. teka mamaya ser pagbalik ko sa studio ill play with it for a few hours and see what happens.

umuwi ako para lang maligo eh at mag internet ng saglit hehehehehe boarder sa sariling bahay ako.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: KitC on March 25, 2008, 12:56:20 PM
Sir... wag muna Lock... baka pareho tayo ng problema... pa share naman ng tips... hehehehe...

No need to lock. Let's just turn this into a UCA200 tips thread!

@digitalcyco - maybe you can edit/update the first post and topic to indicate the new status.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: titser_marco on March 25, 2008, 06:22:17 PM
How's the latency with the UCA? What's the lowest figure you've logged? (in ms)
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 25, 2008, 09:20:52 PM
How's the latency with the UCA? What's the lowest figure you've logged? (in ms)

good question...... how do i find out the latency?
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: KitC on March 25, 2008, 10:56:33 PM
good question...... how do i find out the latency?

http://www.centrance.com/products/ltu/
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 25, 2008, 11:40:08 PM
http://www.centrance.com/products/ltu/

thanks will get back on this thread soon ser!
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: r0nd0gg on March 26, 2008, 07:17:45 AM
when you download off the site there are two setup files. What I did was installed both of them and it worked.

the only problem Im having now is having no "monitor" output during recording, but im trying to figure it out on my own as of the moment hehehe


sir... what site did you downloaded the driver for U-Control UCA200...

Im Using a Laptop, Adobe Audition...

My U-Control UCA200 is a freebee when I bought my Behringer Mixer... I found it exiting the eplore recording... I dont know if the UCA has promblems or its just me... lol
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on March 26, 2008, 08:44:40 AM
hello! I downloaded the drivers from the manufacturer site:

http://www.behringerdownload.de/UCONTROL/BEHRINGER_USB%20ASIO_2.8.14.zip

mga sirs I am not sure if I can do a competent review as I am a newbie and am still "learning the ropes" of recording but will try to post my own opinion on the product.

will post a "latency test" later as suggested. I am home everyday at around this time and go to our little studio just after lunch.

anyway this unit was previously owned by Mong of Chico Sci/Sandwich. He gave it to my friend, and my friend in turn lent it to me because he has no use for it.

as of the moment I am trying to record drum tracks with it through a 16 channel mixer through its record out. will post an A-B of a drum track recorded through the USB interface and the same settings run through the computer sound card line-in which was previously what our little project studio used.

in a nutshell: its pretty basic, just an audio interface to plug something with it. installation was quick and easy and you just had to select it to use it through the control panel.

one thing i did not like about it is that you cannot hear the sound coming in from the INPUT. so when I was recording guitar samples I was clueless because I could not monitor myself. I fixed this by purchasing RCA splitters and ran it to my amp so I could hear myself.

Ive seen on the web the current model (UCA202 i think?) fixes this by adding an optical channel out and a headphone out. My unit here is probably one of the first versions and lack these features. In fact, the exact model is not even in the website anymore.

durability.... its small, made of plastic and looks more like a toy than a serious instrument. i think if i dropped it I would break it into peices. I am not so sure about the durability of Behringer products though.

well if you just want a good USB-based audio interface thats a lot better quality-wise than the computer sound card, I think this would be a reasonable purchase.

but after using this for a day I am more convinced now of saving up and purchasing an M-Audio card. so for the moment this would suffice our recording needs.

cheers!  :-D

Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: smarty on March 26, 2008, 08:40:25 PM
paano magpost ng soundclips, i have some recordings na gamit yung UCA-200. para mai-share ko din sana.

thanks
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: KitC on March 26, 2008, 10:12:50 PM
paano magpost ng soundclips,

Soundclick comes to mind, although like Myspace, I don't like their compression algorithms. You can also try multiply.com and if you really want to post .wav files, try something like rapidshare.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: r0nd0gg on March 27, 2008, 09:46:07 AM
Sir digitalcyco... Thanks for sharing your recording experience using the Behringer U-Control UCA200...

I've downloaded the same driver... but it'seems it still not working... I'll give it another try this day...

sir... feed backs ha... hehehehe... tnx
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: r0nd0gg on March 27, 2008, 04:36:38 PM
YES!!! ok na... hehehe... yung gumagamit ang may problema... I should switch off the TAPE/CD  to MAIN Button... hehehehe...

Experiment na!!! hehehe...
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: mjpartinez on April 05, 2008, 03:07:34 PM
hello! I downloaded the drivers from th



one thing i did not like about it is that you cannot hear the sound coming in from the INPUT. so when I was recording guitar samples I was clueless because I could not monitor myself. I fixed this by purchasing RCA splitters and ran it to my amp so I could hear myself.

Ive seen on the web the current model (UCA202 i think?) fixes this by adding an optical channel out and a headphone out. My unit here is probably one of the first versions and lack these features. In fact, the exact model is not even in the website anymore.




ser panong RCA splitters ? san ka  bumili ? ehehhe.. planning on getting one too eheheh thanks :-D
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on April 05, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
ser panong RCA splitters ? san ka  bumili ? ehehhe.. planning on getting one too eheheh thanks :-D

they are Y shaped female to male RCA jacks you can purchase from local hardware or electronic shops.

just ask for a two female to one male RCA jack output it should work fine splitting the signal between the mixer and wherever else you may want to plug the other line.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: titser_marco on April 06, 2008, 03:09:30 AM
Won't that create loading or impedance issues? :)
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: digitalcyco on April 07, 2008, 06:53:47 AM
Won't that create loading or impedance issues? :)

i guess so, but its the best i can do for the moment :D
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: mjpartinez on April 12, 2008, 02:48:03 PM
sadly wala na kong time at pasensya gamitin yung sakin ... im thinking of selling it..ehehehheh..... magsstand-alone na lang ako tulad ng ps04 ko... :-D
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: digitalcyco on April 13, 2008, 12:55:03 PM
Hi I'm finally done with recording two songs using the Behringer U-Control instead of plugging in through the line-in of the PC sound card.

http://www.myspace.com/boomboxrecordingstudiosprojects

Slight OT: Can I ask the pro's for constructive comments po? I am just starting to learn how to put things together and still in the long long learning process.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: tunesmith on April 14, 2008, 12:14:22 AM
Hi Guys!

Same ba ang price ng behringer products, XENYX powered mixers in particular, sa lahat ng outlets dito sa manila?

tunesmith  :roll:
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: alkemi on April 25, 2008, 09:53:50 PM
Good you got it figured out. Happy recording!

Instead of me locking this thread, why not share with us your review of that UCA once you discover what it can do. I'm sure people will be interested.

hi kit.. dagdag info lang sa uca.. pwede po gumamit ng 2-3 uca simul recording..so may 6 inputs simul recording ka..hehehe tapos ang mura mura.. wdm lang ang pwede sa sonar for example.. so protools,,hehehe syempre walang silbe ang uca..ewan kolang sa MP kung kasama sya sa list bukod sa m audio products.
subukan ko nga magkabit ng 4-6 ucaS, balitaan ko kayo, hanap muna ako magpapahiram sa akin extra uca para masubukan lang.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: titser_marco on April 26, 2008, 12:51:45 AM
So wait, inde pwedeng mag-ASIO ang UCA? Sabi mo kasi WDM lang. Mejo nalito lang ako. :)
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: alkemi on April 26, 2008, 04:59:56 AM
So wait, inde pwedeng mag-ASIO ang UCA? Sabi mo kasi WDM lang. Mejo nalito lang ako. :)
pwede naman asio pero sa isa lang..pag multiple ucaS using sonar wdm lang talga gumagana
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: peeves24 on May 27, 2008, 10:36:00 AM
im so hell-bent in upgrading my recording gear next week that i totally forgot how decent this 1500-peso interface can sound


http://peeves24.multiply.com/music/item/8

comments na rin po

4 mics (3 behris and 1 samson qkick), behri ub1204 mixer -> uca202 -> laptop

mp3s were not Eq'd, just compressed a bit to increase the gain
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: d6ynast9y on May 27, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
when you download off the site there are two setup files. What I did was installed both of them and it worked.

the only problem Im having now is having no "monitor" output during recording, but im trying to figure it out on my own as of the moment hehehe



i had the same problem..just go to option menu then monitoring, then choose either always input or smart input..im not sure what the diference is, but there seems to be none..then there!just arm a track for recording and monitor away! =D


btw, in the latence settings of the uca, if you have enough resources on your computer, theres an option on the driver settings that lets you lessen the latency, im not sure what was the lowest value but it was way below 17ms..

also, downloading and installing the driver from the behringer website is a must..improves the performace of the uca by a whole bunch..and just fixes the little problems anyone may be having
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on May 27, 2008, 12:14:26 PM
i had the same problem..just go to option menu then monitoring, then choose either always input or smart input..im not sure what the diference is, but there seems to be none..then there!just arm a track for recording and monitor away! =D


btw, in the latence settings of the uca, if you have enough resources on your computer, theres an option on the driver settings that lets you lessen the latency, im not sure what was the lowest value but it was way below 17ms..

also, downloading and installing the driver from the behringer website is a must..improves the performace of the uca by a whole bunch..and just fixes the little problems anyone may be having

thanks for the tip!

here are two songs I recorded off the mixer using the UCA200 unit

http://www.myspace.com/boomboxrecordingstudiosprojects

Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: d6ynast9y on May 27, 2008, 09:02:21 PM
thanks for the tip!

here are two songs I recorded off the mixer using the UCA200 unit

http://www.myspace.com/boomboxrecordingstudiosprojects



hey not bad, what mic are you using for the vocals?
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: digitalcyco on May 28, 2008, 07:04:20 AM
hey not bad, what mic are you using for the vocals?

a Shure SM58 on loan from a friend :)  :lol:
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: keyots.r on January 27, 2009, 05:17:51 PM
i was just wondering kung pede to gamiten without mixers? balak ko sana gamiten sya na parang soundcard lng. hehe. i would appreciate yung reply. thanks.  :-D
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: KitC on January 28, 2009, 09:43:06 AM
i was just wondering kung pede to gamiten without mixers? balak ko sana gamiten sya na parang soundcard lng. hehe. i would appreciate yung reply. thanks.  :-D

Yes.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: erniepaj on November 08, 2010, 02:46:47 PM
hi guys:
need to know if its ok to use it like this:

1. guitar => guitar effects loop => amplifier => UCA200 => laptop

OR

2. guitar => guitar effects loop => behringer GDI21 => UCA200 => laptop

i am planning to use adobe soundbooth.

will i get a nasty hissing sound with this?
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: triciaaruba on November 08, 2010, 07:54:39 PM
pwede ba sya sa vista at windows7 ung uca200?
kc windows7 ako, may lumalabas na data is .....
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: erniepaj on November 08, 2010, 08:45:15 PM
is what?
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: KitC on November 09, 2010, 09:51:46 AM
hi guys:
need to know if its ok to use it like this:

1. guitar => guitar effects loop => amplifier => UCA200 => laptop

OR

2. guitar => guitar effects loop => behringer GDI21 => UCA200 => laptop

What kind of fx loop? Does the ampli have line outputs? In both cases. you might want a stereo line output since the UCA uses stereo RCA ins. Or if mono, you usually connect to the left UCA input.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: erniepaj on November 10, 2010, 06:58:05 AM
kitc:

actually ang setup ko po ganito:

guitar + cable + effects in series + cable + amplifier with 1/4" plug out

i dont plan to get a mixer, for once i am recording only one track at a time.

puede ba itong setup na to will work? and still get fairly decent results?

and one more thing. puede ba talaga sa windows 7 ang uca202? the people in intune say di raw sure.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: KitC on November 10, 2010, 09:38:49 AM
PM answered.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: erniepaj on November 10, 2010, 03:33:32 PM
thanks kitC (PM sent):
my amp output is stereo out, can i plug it in UCA without burning the thing.
(other questions in PM)
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: erniepaj on November 12, 2010, 06:04:43 AM
if the amp out is stereo ok lang saksak ang uca202?

i was thinking of lexicon alpha but it goes like proprietary ang output niang audio file kasi nakatie sia sa cubase. tma ba?
i dont have the time to read all that now...
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: KitC on November 12, 2010, 07:57:59 AM
i was thinking of lexicon alpha but it goes like proprietary ang output niang audio file kasi nakatie sia sa cubase. tma ba?
i dont have the time to read all that now...

But you have the time to read through the forums?

Seriously, the Lexicon is a much better interface than the UCA, but I fear it is an old standard since it is a USB 1.1 device. Lexicon's newer I.onix U22 interface appears to be much better since this is USB 2.0 standard.

What do you mean by proprietary outputs? The included software (Cubase LE) is the one 'tied' to the hardware, I believe. Steinberg has a habit of using hardware dongles and it's possible that you can't operate Cubase LE without the Lexicon, but you can use the Lexicon with other DAW software, except for Pro Tools. If you need protools compatibility, then consider M-audio interfaces instead.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: erniepaj on November 13, 2010, 08:09:58 AM
oh no. i was bent on getting the lexicon but now you said its usb 1.1... and it says here the same thing:

http://www.lexiconpro.com/static.php?id=15

the alpha is the cheapest one i found and knowing it's 1.1 frustrates me.
all desktops are moving beyond usb 2.0 in a matter of years and i dunno if there'll be issues with.

i believe you're right on the cubase. i could possibly end up using adobe soundbooth anyway.


Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: KitC on November 13, 2010, 09:35:06 AM
If you use a lot of vsts, Cubase is clearly the way to go. I'm a Sonar user myself but I like how Cubase implements vst automation (we'll see how much different Sonar X1 is when I get it!).
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: erniepaj on January 12, 2011, 06:44:53 AM
cant make this thing work.
can anyone help me out to setup my amplitube to work with my UCA202.

im not sure if it is the MIDI settings with ASIO. tried Direct X settings but i dont hear my guitar at all. im using windows 7, adobe soundbooth for recording, and amplitube 3

here it's how its plugged: guitar => UCA202 => soundcard line-in.

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/erniepaj/amplt.jpg)
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: skin on January 12, 2011, 02:44:46 PM
hi kit.. dagdag info lang sa uca.. pwede po gumamit ng 2-3 uca simul recording..so may 6 inputs simul recording ka..hehehe tapos ang mura mura.. wdm lang ang pwede sa sonar for example.. so protools,,hehehe syempre walang silbe ang uca..ewan kolang sa MP kung kasama sya sa list bukod sa m audio products.
subukan ko nga magkabit ng 4-6 ucaS, balitaan ko kayo, hanap muna ako magpapahiram sa akin extra uca para masubukan lang.


If you use ASIO4ALL drivers, you can record with more than 1 UCA200 using ASIO.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: skin on January 12, 2011, 02:47:07 PM
cant make this thing work.
can anyone help me out to setup my amplitube to work with my UCA202.

im not sure if it is the MIDI settings with ASIO. tried Direct X settings but i dont hear my guitar at all. im using windows 7, adobe soundbooth for recording, and amplitube 3

here it's how its plugged: guitar => UCA202 => soundcard line-in.

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/erniepaj/amplt.jpg)

To be sure, disable mo other soundcards sa device manager.  Issue dito is isang soundcard lang ang ginagamit ng asio4all.  But you can use multiple soundcards using asio4all.
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200
Post by: soulexp on January 29, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
Hi, quick question would there be any issues with making it work with Music maker 16 premium havent gone around it yet and was thinking on the settings I have to setting I have to make on MMM16 for it work prefectly with the UCA. thanks
Title: Re: Behringer U-Control UCA200 n00b problem
Post by: KitC on January 31, 2011, 08:54:29 AM
If you use ASIO4ALL drivers, you can record with more than 1 UCA200 using ASIO.

If behri properly implemented their asio drivers, multiple should appear as one aggregate device, similar to how multiple RME cards operate within the same computer. Unfortunately, it seems that asio4all is the only way to go with multiple UCAs. Another concern of mine is potential timing drift since the UCAs are not synced with each other - not necessarily a problem if you record on a per song basis, but a nasty problem when you start recording a full length concert.