TALK @ PhilMusic.com - The Online Home of the Pinoy Musician

The Music Forums => The Rock Music Board => Topic started by: lucy_monostone on August 06, 2008, 11:22:23 PM

Title: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: lucy_monostone on August 06, 2008, 11:22:23 PM
may yumayaman ba talaga sa pag babanda? karamihan kase ng mga kakilala kong sikat na (may may album, music video, radio air play, regular gig, tv featured, etc.) sikat lang sila pero hindi "daw" sila kumikita. not sure kung pa humble epek lang yun.. madalas pa sabihin ng mga parents natin, "walang mangyayari sa pag bbanda mo", "walang pera sa pag bbanda", etc,,  :-D ...ano opinion nyo dito?
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ninejuicyjulius on August 06, 2008, 11:48:51 PM
balita ko meron daw isang banda noong 90s na mayayaman na din ngayon.

at balita ko din magwa-one night reunion concert daw sila sa agosto 30.  :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jamming_papu on August 07, 2008, 12:38:31 AM
kilala ko 'to.

ngayon lang 'ata dumating ang pagkakataon na talagang may yumaman sa pagbabanda.  :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: lucy_monostone on August 07, 2008, 02:13:56 AM
hehehe syempre di natin isasama yung pioneer na. yung ngayon lang year 2000 lumabas. kase nung kapanahunan nila eheads, konti pa lang ang competition at style ng music, ganon din ang piracy at other forms of music technology. so malaki talaga ang chance nila na magkaron ng break. right place at the right time ika nga.  :lol:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: skunkyfunk on August 07, 2008, 02:15:41 AM
I guess 6CM.  Unless they spend their money on drugs and other vices. 
PNE too.  One of the highest-paid bands. 
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jamming_papu on August 07, 2008, 02:23:41 AM
i guess in that situation the corporate ladder rule also applies.
PNE is in the list. how about bamboo? mainstream bands that do a lot of commercial /adworks.

teka, di na pagbabanda yun. as i also observed, some mainstream band members are relatively more 'well off'. IMO, it also gives some advantage to a band. i want to say something more but i know some people have more rights than i do.  :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: lucy_monostone on August 07, 2008, 03:03:40 AM
i guess in that situation the corporate ladder rule also applies.
PNE is in the list. how about bamboo? mainstream bands that do a lot of commercial /adworks.

teka, di na pagbabanda yun. as i also observed, some mainstream band members are relatively more 'well off'. IMO, it also gives some advantage to a band. i want to say something more but i know some people have more rights than i do.  :-D



hmmm yung PNE early 90s din yun eh. yung Bamboo naman.. mayaman na si Bamboo dahil sa Rivermaya hehehe.. lalo tuloy yumaman kase naghakot ng puro gwapings at talented na members  :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jamming_papu on August 07, 2008, 04:16:12 AM
so in partial conclusion, wala talagang yayaman sa pagbabanda unless
ikaw ang pinakasikat na banda sa buong pilipinas of all time    or
solid state na kayo sa industry.  :?
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: digitalcyco on August 07, 2008, 07:12:40 AM

its hard to get rich in the Philippine music industry. Our market is too small for an artist to earn X number of pesos, plus the fact piracy is rampant and in-your-face in our country.

Put it this way:

The State of California as of 2007 Census has 36,553,215 this is roughly half the size of the ENTIRE Philippine population which is around 80 Million as of recent estimates.

Kung baga, if you were to put it in perspectice..... A "sikat" pinoy band has a fan base equivalent of only the size of ONE state.

In effect, its like your just one of a STATE's local popular band, but not yet as big as the international touring acts we are so familiar with seeing like Linkin Park and Slipknot.

Relating this now to money money and sales:

A Gold Record in Philippine terms is a sale of 15,000 units and to earn a Platinum record is 30,000 units.

So example if I were a pop rock star. Then I got extremely lucky and had a hit single and record, and managed to earn a Platinum record, a very very hard feat to do nowadays, then get my own 15 minute awarding spot at a variety noon time show.

So lets say I get 100 pesos for every CD i moved, so I roughly earned Php 300,000 by having a Platinum record.

Thats not even enough to buy a new car, let along purchase a brand new house and lot.

------------------

Relate it to US of A terms.

Ludacris' "Release Therapy" album as of 2007 sold 3.7 million copies and was Certified 3x platinum. (in the USA, a platinum record is when you move 1 million copies)

So even is he only get TWO  DOLLARS from every sale of the CD (which is ridiculous, he probably gets 50%) he would have taken home $7.4 Million.

or

Php 301 Million pesos.

Then refer again to..... IF MY 200 MILLION KA MAGBABANDA KA PA BA thread hahahahahaha

So thats my opion, hindi ka yayaman sa pagbabanda sa Pilipinas by CD sales alone.



Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Deadwing on August 07, 2008, 07:44:17 AM
digitalcyco got it half-right about how it goes in the US.

The artists do get a share for records.  It's considerably less than the amount mentioned though.  To wit, may I point out Steve Albini's essay regarding the record industry:

http://www.negativland.com/albini.html (http://www.negativland.com/albini.html)

The Problem With Music
by Steve Albini

Whenever I talk to a band who are about to sign with a major label, I always end up thinking of them in a particular context. I imagine a trench, about four feet wide and five feet deep, maybe sixty yards long, filled with runny, decaying [gooey brown stuff]. I imagine these people, some of them good friends, some of them barely acquaintances, at one end of this trench. I also imagine a faceless industry lackey at the other end holding a fountain pen and a contract waiting to be signed. Nobody can see what's printed on the contract. It's too far away, and besides, the [gooey brown stuff] stench is making everybody's eyes water. The lackey shouts to everybody that the first one to swim the trench gets to sign the contract. Everybody dives in the trench and they struggle furiously to get to the other end. Two people arrive simultaneously and begin wrestling furiously, clawing each other and dunking each other under the [gooey brown stuff]. Eventually, one of them capitulates, and there's only one contestant left. He reaches for the pen, but the Lackey says "Actually, I think you need a little more development. Swim again, please. Backstroke". And he does of course.

Every major label involved in the hunt for new bands now has on staff a high-profile point man, an "A & R" rep who can present a comfortable face to any prospective band. The initials stand for "Artist and Repertoire." because historically, the A & R staff would select artists to record music that they had also selected, out of an available pool of each. This is still the case, though not openly. These guys are universally young [about the same age as the bands being wooed], and nowadays they always have some obvious underground rock credibility flag they can wave.

Lyle Preslar, former guitarist for Minor Threat, is one of them. Terry Tolkin, former NY independent booking agent and assistant manager at Touch and Go is one of them. Al Smith, former soundman at CBGB is one of them. Mike Gitter, former editor of XXX fanzine and contributor to Rip, Kerrang and other lowbrow rags is one of them. Many of the annoying turds who used to staff college radio stations are in their ranks as well. There are several reasons A & R scouts are always young. The explanation usually copped-to is that the scout will be "hip to the current musical "scene." A more important reason is that the bands will intuitively trust someone they think is a peer, and who speaks fondly of the same formative rock and roll experiences. The A & R person is the first person to make contact with the band, and as such is the first person to promise them the moon. Who better to promise them the moon than an idealistic young turk who expects to be calling the shots in a few years, and who has had no previous experience with a big record company. Hell, he's as naive as the band he's duping. When he tells them no one will interfere in their creative process, he probably even believes it. When he sits down with the band for the first time, over a plate of angel hair pasta, he can tell them with all sincerity that when they sign with company X, they're really signing with him and he's on their side. Remember that great gig I saw you at in '85? Didn't we have a blast. By now all rock bands are wise enough to be suspicious of music industry scum. There is a pervasive caricature in popular culture of a portly, middle aged ex-hipster talking a mile-a-minute, using outdated jargon and calling everybody "baby." After meeting "their" A & R guy, the band will say to themselves and everyone else, "He's not like a record company guy at all! He's like one of us." And they will be right. That's one of the reasons he was hired.

These A & R guys are not allowed to write contracts. What they do is present the band with a letter of intent, or "deal memo," which loosely states some terms, and affirms that the band will sign with the label once a contract has been agreed on. The spookiest thing about this harmless sounding little memo, is that it is, for all legal purposes, a binding document. That is, once the band signs it, they are under obligation to conclude a deal with the label. If the label presents them with a contract that the band don't want to sign, all the label has to do is wait. There are a hundred other bands willing to sign the exact same contract, so the label is in a position of strength. These letters never have any terms of expiration, so the band remain bound by the deal memo until a contract is signed, no matter how long that takes. The band cannot sign to another laborer or even put out its own material unless they are released from their agreement, which never happens. Make no mistake about it: once a band has signed a letter of intent, they will either eventually sign a contract that suits the label or they will be destroyed.

One of my favorite bands was held hostage for the better part of two years by a slick young "He's not like a label guy at all," A & R rep, on the basis of such a deal memo. He had failed to come through on any of his promises [something he did with similar effect to another well-known band], and so the band wanted out. Another label expressed interest, but when the A & R man was asked to release the band, he said he would need money or points, or possibly both, before he would consider it. The new label was afraid the price would be too dear, and they said no thanks. On the cusp of making their signature album, an excellent band, humiliated, broke up from the stress and the many months of inactivity. There's this band. They're pretty ordinary, but they're also pretty good, so they've attracted some attention. They're signed to a moderate-sized "independent" label owned by a distribution company, and they have another two albums owed to the label. They're a little ambitious. They'd like to get signed by a major label so they can have some security you know, get some good equipment, tour in a proper tour bus -- nothing fancy, just a little reward for all the hard work. To that end, they got a manager. He knows some of the label guys, and he can shop their next project to all the right people. He takes his cut, sure, but it's only 15%, and if he can get them signed then it's money well spent. Anyways, it doesn't cost them anything if it doesn't work. 15% of nothing isn't much! One day an A & R scout calls them, says he's 'been following them for a while now, and when their manager mentioned them to him, it just "clicked." Would they like to meet with him about the possibility of working out a deal with his label? Wow. Big Break time. They meet the guy, and y'know what -- he's not what they expected from a label guy. He's young and dresses pretty much like the band does. He knows all their favorite bands. He's like one of them. He tells them he wants to go to bat for them, to try to get them everything they want. He says anything is possible with the right attitude.

They conclude the evening by taking home a copy of a deal memo they wrote out and signed on the spot. The A & R guy was full of great ideas, even talked about using a name producer. Butch Vig is out of the question-he wants 100 g's and three points, but they can get Don Fleming for $30,000 plus three points. Even that's a little steep, so maybe they'll go with that guy who used to be in David Letterman's band. He only wants three points. Or they can have just anybody record it (like Warton Tiers, maybe-- cost you 5 or 7 grand] and have Andy Wallace remix it for 4 grand a track plus 2 points. It was a lot to think about. Well, they like this guy and they trust him. Besides, they already signed the deal memo. He must have been serious about wanting them to sign. They break the news to their current label, and the label manager says he wants them to succeed, so they have his blessing. He will need to be compensated, of course, for the remaining albums left on their contract, but he'll work it out with the label himself.

Sub Pop made millions from selling off Nirvana, and Twin Tone hasn't done bad either: 50 grand for the Babes and 60 grand for the Poster Children-- without having to sell a single additional record. It'll be something modest. The new label doesn't mind, so long as it's recoupable out of royalties. Well, they get the final contract, and it's not quite what they expected. They figure it's better to be safe than sorry and they turn it over to a lawyer--one who says he's experienced in entertainment law and he hammers out a few bugs. They're still not sure about it, but the lawyer says he's seen a lot of contracts, and theirs is pretty good. They'll be great royalty: 13% [less a 1O% packaging deduction]. Wasn't it Buffalo Tom that were only getting 12% less 10? Whatever. The old label only wants 50 grand, an no points. Hell, Sub Pop got 3 points when they let Nirvana go. They're signed for four years, with options on each year, for a total of over a million dollars! That's a lot of money in any man's English. The first year's advance alone is $250,000. Just think about it, a quarter million, just for being in a rock band! Their manager thinks it's a great deal, especially the large advance. Besides, he knows a publishing company that will take the band on if they get signed, and even give them an advance of 20 grand, so they'll be making that money too. The manager says publishing is pretty mysterious, and nobody really knows where all the money comes from, but the lawyer can look that contract over too. Hell, it's free money. Their booking agent is excited about the band signing to a major. He says they can maybe average $1,000 or $2,000 a night from now on. That's enough to justify a five week tour, and with tour support, they can use a proper crew, buy some good equipment and even get a tour bus! Buses are pretty expensive, but if you figure in the price of a hotel room for everybody In the band and crew, they're actually about the same cost. Some bands like Therapy? and Sloan and Stereolab use buses on their tours even when they're getting paid only a couple hundred bucks a night, and this tour should earn at least a grand or two every night. It'll be worth it. The band will be more comfortable and will play better.

The agent says a band on a major label can get a merchandising company to pay them an advance on T-shirt sales! ridiculous! There's a gold mine here! The lawyer Should look over the merchandising contract, just to be safe. They get drunk at the signing party. Polaroids are taken and everybody looks thrilled. The label picked them up in a limo. They decided to go with the producer who used to be in Letterman's band. He had these technicians come in and tune the drums for them and tweak their amps and guitars. He had a guy bring in a slew of expensive old "vintage" microphones. Boy, were they "warm." He even had a guy come in and check the phase of all the equipment in the control room! Boy, was he professional. He used a bunch of equipment on them and by the end of it, they all agreed that it sounded very "punchy," yet "warm." All that hard work paid off. With the help of a video, the album went like hotcakes! They sold a quarter million copies! Here is the math that will explain just how [strawberry] they are: These figures are representative of amounts that appear in record contracts daily. There's no need to skew the figures to make the scenario look bad, since real-life examples more than abound. income is bold and underlined, expenses are not.

Advance:    $ 250,000
Manager's cut:    $ 37,500
Legal fees:    $ 10,000
Recording Budget:    $ 150,000
Producer's advance:    $ 50,000
Studio fee:    $ 52,500
Drum Amp, Mic and Phase "Doctors":    $ 3,000
Recording tape:    $ 8,000
Equipment rental:    $ 5,000
Cartage and Transportation:    $ 5,000
Lodgings while in studio:    $ 10,000
Catering:    $ 3,000
Mastering:    $ 10,000
Tape copies, reference CDs, shipping tapes, misc. expenses:    $ 2,000
Video budget:    $ 30,000
Cameras:    $ 8,000
Crew:    $ 5,000
Processing and transfers:    $ 3,000
Off-line:    $ 2,000
On-line editing:    $ 3,000
Catering:    $ 1,000
Stage and construction:    $ 3,000
Copies, couriers, transportation:    $ 2,000
Director's fee:    $ 3,000
Album Artwork:    $ 5,000
Promotional photo shoot and duplication:    $ 2,000
Band fund:    $ 15,000
New fancy professional drum kit:    $ 5,000
New fancy professional guitars [2]:    $ 3,000
New fancy professional guitar amp rigs [2]:    $ 4,000
New fancy potato-shaped bass guitar:    $ 1,000
New fancy rack of lights bass amp:    $ 1,000
Rehearsal space rental:    $ 500
Big blowout party for their friends:    $ 500
Tour expense [5 weeks]:    $ 50,875
Bus:    $ 25,000
Crew [3]:    $ 7,500
Food and per diems:    $ 7,875
Fuel:    $ 3,000
Consumable supplies:    $ 3,500
Wardrobe:    $ 1,000
Promotion:    $ 3,000
Tour gross income:    $ 50,000
Agent's cut:    $ 7,500
Manager's cut:    $ 7,500
Merchandising advance:    $ 20,000
Manager's cut:    $ 3,000
Lawyer's fee:    $ 1,000
Publishing advance:    $ 20,000
Manager's cut:    $ 3,000
Lawyer's fee:    $ 1,000
Record sales:    250,000 @ $12 =
$3,000,000
Gross retail revenue Royalty:    [13% of 90% of retail]:
$ 351,000
Less advance:    $ 250,000
Producer's points:    [3% less $50,000 advance]:
$ 40,000
Promotional budget:    $ 25,000
Recoupable buyout from previous label:    $ 50,000
Net royalty:    $ -14,000



Record company income:

Record wholesale price:    $6.50 x 250,000 =
$1,625,000 gross income
Artist Royalties:    $ 351,000
Deficit from royalties:    $ 14,000
Manufacturing, packaging and distribution:    @ $2.20 per record: $ 550,000
Gross profit:    $ 7l0,000
The Balance Sheet: This is how much each player got paid at the end of the game.

Record company:    $ 710,000
Producer:    $ 90,000
Manager:    $ 51,000
Studio:    $ 52,500
Previous label:    $ 50,000
Agent:    $ 7,500
Lawyer:    $ 12,000
Band member net income each:    $ 4,031.25

The band is now 1/4 of the way through its contract, has made the music industry more than 3 million dollars richer, but is in the hole $14,000 on royalties. The band members have each earned about 1/3 as much as they would working at a 7-11, but they got to ride in a tour bus for a month. The next album will be about the same, except that the record company will insist they spend more time and money on it. Since the previous one never "recouped," the band will have no leverage, and will oblige. The next tour will be about the same, except the merchandising advance will have already been paid, and the band, strangely enough, won't have earned any royalties from their T-shirts yet. Maybe the T-shirt guys have figured out how to count money like record company guys. Some of your friends are probably already this [strawberry].
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: digitalcyco on August 07, 2008, 10:38:45 AM

very informative read! and I love the gooey brown stuff trench example.

yeah I was only half-correct..... i didn't take into account the other expenses, just a flat black and white example just to get my point across  :wink:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: wiccan8888 on August 07, 2008, 10:49:26 AM
parokya ni edgar hindi po ba sila mayaman ngayon?tingin ko po mukhang yumaman ang parokya ni edgar.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: siore on August 07, 2008, 10:51:53 AM
I guess 6CM.  Unless they spend their money on drugs and other vices. 
PNE too.  One of the highest-paid bands. 

Parokya ni Edgar yata 'to.   :-)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: mayk_bam on August 07, 2008, 11:16:07 AM
maraming yumayaman sa pagbabanda, look at Korn, Incubus, Aerosmith, etc.... :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: icen on August 07, 2008, 11:21:36 AM
urbandub? faspitch? sorry fan ako e  :lol:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: digitalcyco on August 07, 2008, 11:37:01 AM

may yumaman sa pagbabanda. pero its not that rich compared to the foreign counterparts.

maybe just enough to live comfortably plus perks.  :wink:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: maxi_musikero on August 07, 2008, 11:39:45 AM
kasama ba MYMP dito?  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: supernaut on August 07, 2008, 01:41:50 PM
medyo OT:napansin ko na karamihan naman yata ng mga sumisikat o nagbabanda ngayon ay may kaya (at least their parents are :-D) kasi mamahalin na rin mga gears nila. opinion lang po. :-)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: BassCog on August 07, 2008, 02:30:57 PM
and the "mayaman lang ang sumsikat" rears its head again...

kung ganiyan lang lagi iniisip ng tao...talagang ang mayaman lang ang sisikat sa musika!

hahahahha. Self-fulfilling, eka nga.

Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: digitalcyco on August 08, 2008, 06:19:33 AM
medyo OT:napansin ko na karamihan naman yata ng mga sumisikat o nagbabanda ngayon ay may kaya (at least their parents are :-D) kasi mamahalin na rin mga gears nila. opinion lang po. :-)

i think this is true.

you need to have at least enough money to finance your band, buy yourself decent gear and should be able to afford to spend for rehearsals and get your arses to gigs.

of course, this doesnt apply to all. but I can categorically say that having the $$$ can sure help a band get somewhere.

 :oops:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: skunkyfunk on August 08, 2008, 06:18:07 PM
AFAIK, artists earn more from endorsements rather than CD sales and shows. 
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: supernaut on August 08, 2008, 06:28:23 PM
AFAIK, artists earn more from endorsements rather than CD sales and shows. 

lalo na pag mga malalaking companya like telecom and beverage companies. :-o
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: changedmynametojimi on August 09, 2008, 01:10:05 AM
i think this is true.

you need to have at least enough money to finance your band, buy yourself decent gear and should be able to afford to spend for rehearsals and get your arses to gigs.

of course, this doesnt apply to all. but I can categorically say that having the $$$ can sure help a band get somewhere.

 :oops:


I'd say half true...

cause they can afford not to work for a living, given their situation...

more time sa band..more focus...

unlike pag di masyado ok ang status...nagquit ng banda to get work...

or i could be wrong  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: AnalogKiD on August 12, 2008, 10:33:39 PM
Mangilan ngilan na banda dito mga rich kids na talaga I dunno kung magkano na mga kinita ng eheads or halimbawa calalili.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: marzi on August 13, 2008, 12:54:57 AM
panoorin nyo na mga gigs ko dahil bukas eh sell out na ko at sa malalaking venues nyo na ko makikita  :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Sherwin_xx2002 on August 18, 2008, 11:18:53 PM
Generaly... iilan lang ang yumayaman sa pagbabanda... yung mga banda sa mga bars? mgkano lang ba ang TF nila? Yung mga sikat lang cgurong banda ang yumayaman.... pero karamihan sa nag babanda, abonado pa kung minsan.... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: rays on August 20, 2008, 12:53:49 AM
depende sa type of music and appeal sa tao kaya yumayaman ang banda.
hindi na kikita banda ngayon kung sa album at cd sales lang kelangan nila ng gig and endorsement. mas malaki pa nga kinikita minsan sa gig at endoresment kesa sa cd sales.

tas kelangan medyo trendy din kasi mabilis magsawa mga tao/audience/fans. laging may lumalabas na bagong banda.

yung ibang talented na musikero dito nagaabroad kasi mas malaki pa kikitain nila magshow band sa abroad kesa sumikat dito. walang suporta dito e. kadalasan pineperahan lang ng mga bar and production mga banda pero walang balik.

kaya wag masyado magseryoso sa pagbabanda. hobby lang muna. para mas enjoy... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: reno_of_the_turks on August 22, 2008, 06:36:10 AM
hehehe syempre di natin isasama yung pioneer na. yung ngayon lang year 2000 lumabas. kase nung kapanahunan nila eheads, konti pa lang ang competition at style ng music, ganon din ang piracy at other forms of music technology. so malaki talaga ang chance nila na magkaron ng break. right place at the right time ika nga.  :lol:

In the 90's maraming magagaling na banda and competition, like alamid, yano rivermaya, green department, rizal underground, tropical depression, the teeth, true faith, side a, moonstar, wolfgang, orient pearl, razorback etc

Tungkol dun sa topic I think may yumayaman naman sa pagbabanda
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: markdennis on August 22, 2008, 09:50:17 AM
in general dito saatin di ko masasabi na yumaman nagkaroon lang ng steady income i guess, unlike sa states pag nagkaroon ka ng isang hit panigurado mafefeature ka na sa mtv cribs dahil may pera ka na:-D gawa rin siguro dahil maliit market natin dito kaya kailangan din ilabas ng bansa yung tugtugan natin, parang ganito yung tingin ko tong philippines sabihin na natin na parang isang state like washington, tapos yung mga bansang singapore, thailand, hk, japan, etc parang california, new york, etc. kailangan lang may passport para maka tour dun and mag bubook sayo dun so kungbaga yung asia parang usa,  anyway balik kung yumayaman siguro kung tipong eheads sabi binigyan ng malaking anda para tumugtog ng one night only malaking halaga na talaga yun pero kung compare mo sa one night only ng led zep yun binigay sa kanila mejo barya pa talaga:)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: thr3ten on August 22, 2008, 10:19:25 AM
i could think of a few that did it, but in this casual change prone industry you need to think of something else to back your resources well.  kailangan may on the side parati preparing for the inevitable  :-)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: swinger on August 23, 2008, 04:42:34 AM
marami na ring yumaman pero hindi katulad ng iniisip nyong YAMAN.

in general, musicians who knows what they are doing and going is the one who excel financially. dami ko ng musiko na nakausap na from RAGS TO RICHES ika nga. sila yung mga musikong may pangarap and STRAIGHT! you know what i mean.

there is this one musician, who i envy a lot because of the struggle as a touring musician and after that being succesful, mga taga BF paranaque baka kilala nyo 'to. he goes by the name DIXIE. when he was starting out, i think it was 60's or 70's, his band went abroad to earn more money. i think its vietnam ata. his wife is pregnant when he left. pero nung dumating sila dun, wala silang trabaho kasi naloko sila ng promoter na kumuha sa kanila. after 3 weeks( still no gig) her wife called telling him na NASUNUGAN sila, pero hindi nya na sinabi ng wala silang trabaho para hindi ma-upset yung wife nya. being the bandleader, his eager to get a job for the band because he is also concern about his member's family.

after almost 2months of no work, he bump in to this guy na chef sa US base na nagkataon eh frustrated musician. he told him that he is struggling to get work for his band and GUTOM na sila. gumawa ng paraan yung kaibigan nyang chef na makatugtug sila sa loob ng base pero walang bayad. CHIBOG lang. so, tinanggap na nila yun pang tawid gutom nila. pero kailangan nilang mag sneak in papasok at palabas ng base kasi bawal. and then the time comes for them to play. 1st song palang nila, nagulat sila kasi yung mga tao nagbabato ng pera(US dollars) sa kanila, akala nila binabato sila kaya tumigil sila. sabi ng kaibigan nya " play, money is what you want then thats what you gonna get"! and the rest is history!

now, he has a big house in BF. 6 cars. full band studio. full band set up for outdoor. and all of his children are highly educated. some of them graduated from the US. lahat yan nakuha nya sa pagiging MUSIKO! :-)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jamming_papu on August 23, 2008, 05:23:56 AM
marami na ring yumaman pero hindi katulad ng iniisip nyong YAMAN.

in general, musicians who knows what they are doing and going is the one who excel financially. dami ko ng musiko na nakausap na from RAGS TO RICHES ika nga. sila yung mga musikong may pangarap and STRAIGHT! you know what i mean.


a very heart warming story. :-)
as i read it, it feels like a real-life a novel on an internet forum site.
ang masasabi ko lang ay laging may paraan. we just have to keep finding it ourselves.  :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: MIG AYESA on August 23, 2008, 12:48:16 PM
Merong yumayaman, pero mababa ang ratio. Siguro  mga less than 5% lang ang mga yumaman tlaga.

Mas magandang term siguro yung kumita instead na yumaman

Dito  kc sa bansa natin, mababa ang royalties ng mga talents. Di tulad sa ibang bansa kahit mga one-hit wonders. Big time na agad.


Kaya pag naghit ang song ninyo, strike while the iron is hot. Todo concert at tv appearance agad para kumita.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ytse_neil on August 23, 2008, 01:04:37 PM
Merong yumayaman, pero mababa ang ratio. Siguro  mga less than 5% lang ang mga yumaman tlaga.

Mas magandang term siguro yung kumita instead na yumaman

Dito  kc sa bansa natin, mababa ang royalties ng mga talents. Di tulad sa ibang bansa kahit mga one-hit wonders. Big time na agad.


Kaya pag naghit ang song ninyo, strike while the iron is hot. Todo concert at tv appearance agad para kumita.

oo tama ka kumikita meron pero yumayaman di siguro..kasi yung kinikita mo tama lang sa paguuprade ng mga gears mo eh..saka yung mga sasakyan na ikagiginhawa sa gig niyo..

tignan niyo nalang yung mga hiphop artist sa US sila nelly,timbaland etc..lahat sila yumayaman kagad sa pagrarap di tulad dito yung salbakuta tumanda nalang sa pagrarap di pa rin umaasenso...
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: swinger on August 23, 2008, 02:46:26 PM
pasensya na mga sir ha pero just like i said MERON ng yumaman. it all depends how you measure that YAMAN.

marami pang kwento tungkol sa pakikipagsapalaran ng mga pinoy musiko. sobrang dami, na hindi ko akalain na yung iba ay mararanasan ko. kung may kilala kayo na working/gigging musician na nakaranas ng pakikipagsapalaran sa pinas at sa ibayong dagat, tanungin nyo sila kung pano talaga ang buhay BANDA. :-)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ytse_neil on August 23, 2008, 11:08:47 PM
I just watched MTV cribs earlier and I just watched New found glory's guitarist yung mataba di ako fan nila kaya di ko siya kilala..Grabe napakaganda ng bahay nila at ang trabaho lang niya eh ang pagbabanda..Imagine kung yung ibang tao magtatake pa ng nursing course dahil sabi ng mga nanay nila na dun sila yayaman kahit na ayaw mo.. pero mga banda sa US kahit di nagtapos mas maunlad pa sa iba.

Naalala ko yung show sa myx ng kamikazee yung "banda san" ata name nun may nainterview si Jay na isang bandista din then pabiro niyang tinanong dun sa singer na "Ate anu po ba gusto niyo sabihin sa gobyerno natin ngayon?"then the woman answered "Sana taasan ang bayad sa mga musicians sa philippines kasi ang hirap ng ginagawa natin para lang magentertain sana dagdagan kahit konti."
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: adidas ni hudas on August 24, 2008, 01:34:18 PM
it depends.......

pagsikat na banda na...
syempre kumikita yun...

pero yun iba..
kahit matagal na banda na
unless walang nabigay na break sa kanila

i dont think they earning something..

Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: brutalaffection on September 10, 2008, 01:56:50 AM
hmm.. para sakin. mahirap yumaman dito sa pilipinas sa pagbabanda. panget ang music industry dito eh.. ang konti pa ng mga sumusuporta.. ung iba nga ang tingin dito ngayon waste of time lng sa sobrang daming naghihirap.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 06, 2012, 09:31:58 AM
 :-o ganda nito ah! parang mga katanungan ko sa pangarawaraw..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: samuelfianza on November 06, 2012, 12:33:25 PM
Walang yumayaman sa pagbabanda.

Yung mga sikat na banda na-bigyan lang sila ng maraming opportunities (product endorsement, band management, connections, etc) kaya yumaman.

Pero kung pagbabanda lang, mahirap.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 06, 2012, 12:42:50 PM
kung sa US and Europe..gaganda din ng careers ng mga skateboarders and nagbbmx..imaginin mo kung sa pinas..parang impossible maging career mga to..pagtatawanan ka lang ng mga tao..

palagay ko pag di pa sikat banda mo..99.99% chance wag mo nang asahan yayaman ka..

pag sumikat at nagka hits at tinangkilik album mo...maiiba yung percentage sa 98.99% na makakaafford ka ng rockstar luxuries..

Naalala ko sinabi ng singer ng Phantom Planet..yung kanta na "California" ang nakatulong sa kanila makabili ng Porche, Range Rover etc...hahahaha..

anyway..sa opinion ko...napakahirap umasa sa pagbabanda para guminhawa ang buhay..and besides there are better and esier and more tried and tested ways to find wealth....yun nalang tahakin mo as priority..tapos banda ka nalang on the side..kesa na umasa ka na yayaman ka sa pagbanda..


kung mayaman naman kayo talaga at mapera si papa and mama...why not..maging hipster ka nalang at magartist/photographer bass player..habang  kaya pa ng mga magulang mo idole out ka sa finances....pero..duh..sino ba naman ang may gusto nito..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: brighteyesbayside on November 06, 2012, 11:54:32 PM
well, if you're speaking in absolutes.
Yes, mayroong yumayaman sa pagbabanda, a very tiny percentage siguro

the same way na merong yumayaman sa pagtataho, pagbebenta ng ice cream etc.

however, if you're comparing it to different more commercial industries, obviously mas maraming chances to earn financially from them.

here's a cold hard truth: it's not for everyone. who said life was fair?

ung bands having mega endorsements from companies,tv etc. they've done their share of heartches and hard stuff and playing on all kinds of [gooey brown stuff] places. sometimes they're also just lucky.

Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jjgalvan on November 14, 2012, 08:22:04 PM
sa mga province kadalasan ikaw na tutugtog kaw pa mag babayad lol
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Helmet on November 16, 2012, 07:12:08 PM
Unless may cameo ka sa mga shows sa TV, walang mangyayari sa pagbabanda.

In this day and age (not to mention this country), being in a band could not sustain your living, so it should not be a priority. Mukha lang mayaman yung mga idol natin, compared to us who are working in a corporate world. Why, you might ask. Most of them don't have insurance, social security, health benefits, etc. Their savings are liquid and hati-hati pa sila dun. Pano kung mala-Slipknot ang lineup nyo tapos every weekend lang kayo tumutugtog? Labas nyan puro pancit canton araw araw.

Let's say nasa super band ka na, earning 7,00010,000 per song; with gigs every weekend; apat kayo, with managers and roadies. You can hit 75,00085,000 per month net. Mukhang ok na, but remember, these are liquid savings. Wala pa dyan ang gastos sa tour, recording, gears, at lahat ng kailangan na hindi naka-budget para sa banda.

Being in a band isn't all that bad, neither is it all that good. It should be approached as if it was a job that you intend to have. Kung pano ka mag-isip sa paghanap ng trabaho, dapat ganun din sa pagpasok sa banda if you intend to make a career out of it.

On a side note: Working in a bank, I have seen so many famous band members apply for a loan and they always get turned down because of their poor credit standing. Why? We don't consider musicians as a "stable career". Unless you're Willie Revillame.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on January 10, 2013, 01:41:41 PM
IMVHO meron naman yumayaman sa pagbabanda.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on January 10, 2013, 02:14:34 PM
siguro pyschology and mindset wise..most artists and musicians have very few business sense..most of them live in the moment..have extravagant lifestyles na kailangan nila sustain to keep their image..kaya siguro iilan lang talaga ang yumayaman ng husto..industry wise mahirap na at super struggle..dagdag mo pa yung usual free spirit attitude..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: trxter41 on January 16, 2013, 09:52:59 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/entertainment/rock-guitarist-gary-perez-now-homeless-and-fighting-for-his-songs-royalties/ (http://www.interaksyon.com/entertainment/rock-guitarist-gary-perez-now-homeless-and-fighting-for-his-songs-royalties/)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on January 17, 2013, 08:24:04 AM
kalungkot yan
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on January 17, 2013, 08:27:50 AM
how much kaya yung royalties na yun are we talking millions of pesos? swerte pa niya kamo nabalita pa yung plight niya..paano kung walng makakaalam...

(http://cms.interaksyon.com/entertainment/assets/media/2013/01/Garys-guitars-most-of-which-he-already-sold-and-continues-to-sell-379x500.jpg)


"Ser, Gary Kunin ko na po yung surf green strat ninyo 1,500 nalang yan para lang po sa church..."


actually pwede naman siya kumita ng konti sa mag turo ng guitar lessons...or magsetup ng guitars..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Helmet on January 18, 2013, 01:48:38 AM
Ang alam ko nasa 1-3% depende sa earnings ng.... ewan....
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: riverajhonathan on January 18, 2013, 01:13:31 PM
Sabi nga ng FOB..

"We only do it for the scars and stories, not the fame"

The best thing is to love what we do, invest in making pure music to please the audience..

Then I think if your deserving, everything will follow.. :)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ianreyes on February 23, 2013, 11:23:02 AM
may yumayaman ba talaga sa pag babanda? karamihan kase ng mga kakilala kong sikat na (may may album, music video, radio air play, regular gig, tv featured, etc.) sikat lang sila pero hindi "daw" sila kumikita. not sure kung pa humble epek lang yun.. madalas pa sabihin ng mga parents natin, "walang mangyayari sa pag bbanda mo", "walang pera sa pag bbanda", etc,,  :-D ...ano opinion nyo dito?


mag showband ka.... dun maraming pera dun. pero kung originals/compositions... maling motivation ang pera... dami naman natin nakitang banda na ganyan... nagsimula sa tropa.. nahilig sa music.. bumuo ng banda... trip trip lang... basta magkakasama. nakabuo ng ilang kanta. sumama sa mga prod pra "ishare" ang nabuong kanta sa sobrang kasiyahan nila dahil after 15yrs nakabuo rin ng kanta.... heheheh!! nakabuo pa ng ilang kanta... nakakuha ng "producer" nag labas ng cd.... yes!! sumikat!! yes!! eto na pumasok na malalaking "contract deals" eto na problema na sa hatian ng "royalties" ang laki kse ng agwat ng nakukuha ni ganito kay ganyan... daming banda dyan na nahinto ang career nadisband na... pag pumasok na ung PERA sa usapan... un iba nga unang "kontrata" plang d pa napipirmahan... d na nakapirma dhl d na nagkasundo sa hatian... hehehe!! pro nung nag uumpisa wala naman sa isip nila yun... kaya maganda ang samahan ng grupo... nakakabuo rin ng magandang kanta... dun naman nangagaling yun dba. andami ko nakitang nagsisimulang banda ganda ng samahan.. ganda ng tugtugan solid tlga.... pro pagpasok ng pera.... d pa nga sikat eh... iba pa un... pera pa lang d na nagkasundo dahil parang ung pera na ang naging basehan ng halaga nya sa grupo... na sa totoo lang napaka "babaw" na basehan... pro yun nga dahil sa pera na nakatuon ang attention.. yun na nangyari... punto ko lang kung gus2 mo magbanda... maganda ang motivation mo "musika" dahil yun ang ginagawa ng banda... gumawa ng "musika" ung kasikatan at pera tlgang darating yan ng kusa kung talgang "mahal mo ang musika" at pag dumating na ang kasikatan at pera... wag sana mabaling ang pagmamahal mo sa kasikatan at pera dahil pag nangyari yun.... mawawala ang ''musika".... pag nawala yun... tapos ang pagbabanda..tapos ang pera... laos ka na  :-D
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: IncX on February 23, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
ang alam ko mas marami ang naghirap dahil sa pagbabanda
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on February 23, 2013, 05:43:26 PM
ang alam ko mas marami ang naghirap dahil sa pagbabanda
This. Gastos sa pamasahe pag gig pagkaen ipasok mo pa yung mga bisyo mo alak sigarilyo

 Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Meron kapag pogi ka sisikat ka dapat marunong ka rin mag acting at sumayaw kahit robot dance  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: sgt_chibog on February 24, 2013, 01:29:47 AM
IMHO wealth should never be a motivation for any career, lalo na sa mga creative fields. Do it for the love of the art. Most sucess stories are like that naman. Sa RHCP, flea and anthony started out from nothing doing gigs and shows para lang may pang heroin sila and because they love making music with each other. Si Frusciante on the other hand wished for a life of wealth, fame, sex and drugs; in short a rockstar life. Pero look where it got him, di nya kinaya yung fame and drugs he ended up despising the band and their fame while being locked up in his house shooting heroin until his veins  wore out. Kinda like a cobain or a hendrix story but with a lighter ending, since he cleaned up and returned to the band just for the love of music. Fast forward to today he quit his famous and mayamang band to pursue hos own creative side kahit walang kita and walang fame.

But what do i know haha naOT na ata sa haba ng post  :-P
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gunlak on February 24, 2013, 11:47:25 PM
ang pagbabanda, hobby ng mayayaman.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: 24242009 on March 01, 2013, 05:27:58 PM
siguro for the love of music na lang ang pagbabanda, mahirap i-asa ang kinabukasan sa pagbabanda. Mahirap itaya ang buhay natin at ng mga anak natin sa pagbabanda. siguro dapat isipin na lang na libangan ang pagbabanda, kung sinwerte e di ok..pero wag masayadong maging attached dito. iba pa din ang may 8 to 5 job.

exceptional din naman kasi ang mga bandang tulad ng nirvana, metallica, pearl jam, weezer, green day at iba pa. kasi malaki ang populasyon sa US, kung ticket sales na lang ang paguusapan malaki talaga, at bukod doon magaganda pa mga kanta nila.

ang hirap lang kung walang ibang racket bukod sa pagbabanda kasi kapag na-laos na wala ng kita. iba padin ang day job kahit paano may sweldo tuwing kinsena.

siguro yung mga yumayaman lang talaga yun tipong magagaling at magaganda mga kanta pati yung mga face value. siguro swertihan din yan, saka hindi rin naman lahat ng may 8 to 5 job yumayaman.

basta enjoy lang ang musika kahit yumaman man o hindi ang mahalaga masaya tayo. kasi pag masaya tayo sa ginagawa natin kahit ano nagiging ok.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: dirtybluesplayer on March 02, 2013, 12:44:26 PM
ang pagbabanda, hobby ng mayayaman.
Lumang kasabihan pero totoo, especially those 90's band like, Razorback,Wolfgang,Datus Tribe,Radioactive Sago Project, and too many to mention. Karamihan mga anti-government
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jamstreet on April 01, 2013, 09:38:03 AM
may yumayaman ba talaga sa pag babanda? karamihan kase ng mga kakilala kong sikat na (may may album, music video, radio air play, regular gig, tv featured, etc.) sikat lang sila pero hindi "daw" sila kumikita. not sure kung pa humble epek lang yun.. madalas pa sabihin ng mga parents natin, "walang mangyayari sa pag bbanda mo", "walang pera sa pag bbanda", etc,,  :-D ...ano opinion nyo dito?
Meron sir,madami ako kilala na yumaman sa pag babanda.nakabili na ng kotse,nakapagpatayo narin ng bahay.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Santo Muerte on April 01, 2013, 09:54:20 AM
Meron sir,madami ako kilala na yumaman sa pag babanda.nakabili na ng kotse,nakapagpatayo narin ng bahay.
Baka naman showband sa Dubai yan pre.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ian tdc on April 01, 2013, 10:00:06 AM
Meron din naman siguro mangilan ngilan... pero mas madami ang hindi lalo na sa music industry ng pinas... sa ibang bansa siguro pwede pa... dito sa atin marami napagastos dahil sa pagbabanda... pure passion lang talaga... at tingin ko mas ok yun...
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jamstreet on April 01, 2013, 10:26:54 AM
Baka naman showband sa Dubai yan pre.
ung mga kilala ko na galing dubai na yumaman taon ung byahe nila.baliwala kc ang byahe kapag months lang.
Meron din naman siguro mangilan ngilan... pero mas madami ang hindi lalo na sa music industry ng pinas... sa ibang bansa siguro pwede pa... dito sa atin marami napagastos dahil sa pagbabanda... pure passion lang talaga... at tingin ko mas ok yun...
madami din sir eh,cguro dipende sa tugtugan.ung mga kabanda ko at mga kaibigan ko.nag ka pera sila sa pagbabanda at hanggang ngayon kumikita ng maganda sa pag babanda.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: siopao69 on May 10, 2013, 09:26:39 AM
may yumayaman sa pagbabanda (ng iba)
eg: managers, promoters, labels ...etc..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: LowEnd18 on July 01, 2013, 11:21:55 PM
Salat sa pera...mayaman sa kaalaman... Madaming pera..puno ng kamangmangan... Anu matimbang sayo?
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gnarly on July 02, 2013, 02:07:50 AM
meron.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jiggahman_420 on July 14, 2013, 09:39:44 AM
maybe during the 1990s to mid 2000s. nowadays since dormant ang scene compared to before, di talaga kaya if u are a starting artist plus u have to deal with piracy. paano mo masabing mayaman ka na?kung may gig ka pa sa resorts world o sa abroad, u can be a provider but to be as rich as Willie Revillame, malayo!
Thru concerts/gigs dun sila bumabawi.Dun sa mga sikat na..its all about maintaining na lang for example..one event dito sa gensan 1M ang budget ng Sandwich, Brownman at Rocksteddy which is a good amount. but what is the standard of mayaman ba?bahay sa ayala alabang? duda ako...but when you come to think of it, mayaman na ang mga musikerong nagbabanda na big time to begin with..ex. wolfgang, razorback, parokya etc..private schools galing mga to. so gamit at the luxury of time to practice is an advantage. Kahit naman dito sa forum obvious db? no sour graping, just stating the obvious.

of course there are always exemptions to the rules..the lucky ones ika nga..my two cents lang..

if u truly love the music, money does not matter. unless if ur married and have kids..hehehe!
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: strings4life on July 14, 2013, 10:54:01 AM

hmmm yung PNE early 90s din yun eh. yung Bamboo naman.. mayaman na si Bamboo dahil sa Rivermaya hehehe.. lalo tuloy yumaman kase naghakot ng puro gwapings at talented na members  :-D

I disagree! Pamangkin ko lead guitarist niya sa USA. And nakita mo na ba pamangkin ko?... :) J/K But he's very talented kasi.......ako nagturo sa kanya eh...lol
Here's his name on fb....Jade Figueroa
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: sweeplikevai on July 17, 2013, 06:45:58 PM
btt:

meron
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jamming_papu on July 17, 2013, 06:56:41 PM
meron. know one personally. others by reading their stories.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: joshcov on October 04, 2013, 11:16:30 PM
madami na..lalo yung bumabyahe, merong mga pinapalad lalo pag di nahaluan ng bisyo..minsan minamalas kasi yung kinita nila sa pag byahe nauuwi lang sa pag pagamot kasi naabuso ang katawan.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Boxedking on October 04, 2013, 11:22:31 PM
meron. know one personally. others by reading their stories.
Same thing here. Naging kabanda ko pa for a short time kasi umalis na sya doon sa bandang yun. Nagkakalokohan na sila sa hatian sa pera. Pakana ng manager nila.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ejecruz on November 27, 2013, 03:46:46 PM
Meron... just look at Dream Theatre
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: deadstars on November 30, 2013, 07:54:25 AM
Merun pero tsambahan lalo na pag may iba kang trabaho at hati ang oras mo.

Mas mabilis yayaman kung magtayo ka ng NGO at manguha ng pork barrel funds sa mga politiko. Si Napoles magaling dun.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: rockywatnow on November 30, 2013, 10:38:30 AM
Meron !
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: doink_rules on December 01, 2013, 12:58:06 PM

mag showband ka.... dun maraming pera dun. pero kung originals/compositions... maling motivation ang pera...

+1
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Jnsk on December 06, 2013, 07:55:53 PM
ang alam ko mas marami ang naghirap dahil sa pagbabanda
^Minsan nga wala pa kong pamasahe papunta gig.  :lol: :lol:
Pero sabi nga rin ng iba, pwede rin. Chamba nga lang?
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: synapse1 on March 24, 2014, 01:26:33 PM
konting konti lng siguru
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ytse_neil on March 24, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
Tuwing binabasa ko tong thread na to, parang nawawalan ako ng gana tumugtog..  :-P
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: rocker4ever on March 24, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
yung iba kasi mayaman na bago pa man mag banda kaya ako pinilit na tapusin ang pag aaral ngayun me pamilya na at me magandang trabaho nabibili ang nais at mga magagandang gear pero di na nag banda muli libangan nlang sya para sa akin....
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on March 24, 2014, 02:58:23 PM
dapat talaga may tinapos ka, at least..requirement ng society yun..lalo kung ordinary people ka lang..unless napaka high profile ng mga circles mo..like mga world tours, and manila philharmonic with master conductor from berlin..etc..large ,grand gigs and shows..na regular.. and such..pero kung mga beerhouse beehouse,padis point..medyo mabagal ang usad
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: dirtybluesplayer on March 24, 2014, 08:20:59 PM
Hobby lang ng mayayaman ang pagbabanda dati.

Marami yumayaman sa pag babanda noon, pero ngayon sa pagiging pacute at papogi nalang(BOY BAND) ala One Direction, Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers, Nge-nge Pedilla. etc.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: j.nikko3123 on April 30, 2014, 10:48:19 PM
With the Philippine's current economic status parang ang hirap,kahit sobrang daming music lovers sa pinas kahit gaano nila gustong bumili nang album nang kanilang paboritong local band mas naiisip nila yung regular day gastos nila. Marketing wise, the big guns prefer the quick and marketable kind of artist yung tipong novelty music na para sa lahat nang taong kulang nang saya sa buhay na pwede nilang ibala para sa Philippine market kahit walang lasting power basta may kiliti okay na para sa  instant kita,so the people who are really serious about their craft go to the "indie" route,yung may "spread the love" mentality na lang.

Some see that being a musician is a recreational activity for the rich,parang Golf lang. Its really hard to breakout and roll like the big boys if you really don't have the dough and the guts to start with. If you just go out on bars and some music lounge tapos sobrang lupit nung nasa stage you'll wonder bakit hindi tulad nila yung naririnig mo sa radyo,bakit mas gusto nang tao yung K-pop,saka yung mga revivals na halos sampung henerasyon na nang mga filipino singers ang gumawa(I don't want to bash these truly talented artist for doing such,this is just an open idea), 
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: kevzkie024 on July 10, 2014, 12:10:24 AM
Hmm. Parang sa ibang bansa lang yumayaman yung mga nagba-banda e. Dito minsan kung kailan umu-usbong na ang career, dun pa nagwawatak-watak. Form of hobby lang siguro talaga dito sa atin ang pagbabanda.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: Magus on November 17, 2014, 09:02:23 AM
Wala. And Money should'nt be the goal anyways.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 17, 2014, 09:14:11 AM
Only a handful will make it...
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on November 17, 2014, 09:51:11 AM
Only a handful will make it...

which confirms the thread diba?

iba parin talaga karakas nung 70's, 80's, 90's

cassettes lang or LPs pero lumalarga mga banda,
yung information dissemination kasi dati, aasa ka lang sa local zines, radio DJs, at panonoorin ka talaga ng live.
kaya may chance na kumita ang isang band, lalo na kung maganda mag market ang manager nila.

ngayon dahil sa internet, madaling matanggal uhaw ng tao sa magaling na banda, dahil sa youtube
so instead na manood, at makabili ng merch's , babad nalang sa internet ginagawa ng iba.

sayang! daming magagaling at mas magagaling ngayon.
kung walang susuporta, sayang
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 17, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
which confirms the thread diba?

iba parin talaga karakas nung 70's, 80's, 90's

cassettes lang or LPs pero lumalarga mga banda,
yung information dissemination kasi dati, aasa ka lang sa local zines, radio DJs, at panonoorin ka talaga ng live.
kaya may chance na kumita ang isang band, lalo na kung maganda mag market ang manager nila.

ngayon dahil sa internet, madaling matanggal uhaw ng tao sa magaling na banda, dahil sa youtube
so instead na manood, at makabili ng merch's , babad nalang sa internet ginagawa ng iba.

sayang! daming magagaling at mas magagaling ngayon.
kung walang susuporta, sayang

over the weekend, napatambay ako sa RAKISTA group sa FB...hahaha parang group ata ng RAKISTA RADIO...nakakatuwa din kasi, ang dami-dami-daming into the scene...may parang rockfest pa ata sila prinopromote aside from smaller shows..puro homegrown acts..
sagana talaga sa banda at rakista sa pinas...

pero yun nga..only a handful will make it, combination ng looks, talent, corporate backing, management, marketing,branding, and of course musicality.....lahat! parang producto lang yan..like hand soap or toothpaste..kailangang imarket at ipackage para ibenta..

hmmmm..

pwede kayang Mulilevel marketing sa "BANDA" hahaha
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 17, 2014, 10:57:13 AM
just saw an post sa GTP....about mga big name band members sa UK ata...still need to keep their dayjobs..to get by..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on November 18, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
just saw an post sa GTP....about mga big name band members sa UK ata...still need to keep their dayjobs..to get by..

nabasa ko nga din yun hehe

talagang sa panahon ngayon kahit sikat na banda may day job

may mga full time musicians naman pero di masabing mayaman.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 18, 2014, 12:27:18 PM
nabasa ko nga din yun hehe

talagang sa panahon ngayon kahit sikat na banda may day job

may mga full time musicians naman pero di masabing mayaman.

true,

and one thing to remember is how one percieves "MAYAMAN".... you can see some musicians flaunting their stuff and possessions...pero all on credit at utang mga yun..pero tingin mo mayaman...
meron naman simpleng musikero sa cruise ship..nakapundar ng simple bahay at lupa sasakyat, tamang gamit at gear...pero walang negative sa finances....may savings at mga investments..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on November 18, 2014, 12:32:06 PM
i think the word "mayaman" can be derived from the "living the life" state

kahit hindi finances ang pagusapan.

pero yun na nga, reality bites, pag kumakalam ang sikmura, how can the musicians parade that anthem?
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 18, 2014, 12:41:25 PM
i think the word "mayaman" can be derived from the "living the life" state

kahit hindi finances ang pagusapan.

pero yun na nga, reality bites, pag kumakalam ang sikmura, how can the musicians parade that anthem?

hahaha good description.."LIVING THE LIFE STATE" haha..swak na swak..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on November 18, 2014, 02:39:36 PM
hahaha good description.."LIVING THE LIFE STATE" haha..swak na swak..


ang sarap kayang isiping "LIVING THE LIFE" (full time musician)

sa bahay - may sariling recording studio, may gear storage with controlled atmosphere (humidifier), high end equipment/gear, tons of branded and signature gear

sa office - mag arrange ng kanta for the weekends' show

paid gigs thrice a week

product endorsements etc.

sought after musical arranger ka

then on top of that, beefed up ang bank account mo and wallet.


-----------------------

pero may mga kilala din akong full time musician na ok ok lang din naman ang way of life, i mean di naman sila maluho, sakto lang kinikita sa pagbabanda or may sobra ng konti hehe

benta gear for upgrades pero masayang masaya sila  --> LIVING THE LIFE parin yan

   
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 18, 2014, 02:49:47 PM

ang sarap kayang isiping "LIVING THE LIFE" (full time musician)

sa bahay - may sariling recording studio, may gear storage with controlled atmosphere (humidifier), high end equipment/gear, tons of branded and signature gear

sa office - mag arrange ng kanta for the weekends' show

paid gigs thrice a week

product endorsements etc.

sought after musical arranger ka

then on top of that, beefed up ang bank account mo and wallet.


-----------------------

pero may mga kilala din akong full time musician na ok ok lang din naman ang way of life, i mean di naman sila maluho, sakto lang kinikita sa pagbabanda or may sobra ng konti hehe

benta gear for upgrades pero masayang masaya sila  --> LIVING THE LIFE parin yan

 

iniimagine ko..haha napaka clear ng description...

dagdag mo pa yung mga "local & international travels"..haha

like all professions naman..ibat ibang level ng accomplishments bawat tao...importante laging meron..as in lagi...for me, yun na yung "well off"...
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 18, 2014, 03:02:07 PM
I think,


sa mga young bands ngayon..karamihan #1 motivation is ----PAGSIKAT..
gawa ng kanilang youthful aspirations, at gusto magexpress ng sarili, make a mark through music...

then unti unti, magbabago na yung mindset at perception nila sa buhay nila..medyo magiging big factor na at motivation ang.... "PERA" so those na medyo dehado, (if they are smart enough to know)...gagawa na ng ibang life path at direction...

yung mga natira yung mga tunay na hardcore musikero sa isip,puso, at sa gawa....

Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jm the mute on November 24, 2014, 11:39:48 AM
obviously may yumayaman, merong hindi...kahit anong trabaho naman may ganun. mapa-musician, japayuki, engineer, nurse, hired gun...ganun talaga ang buhay. depende sa diskarte lang yan :)
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 24, 2014, 01:11:40 PM
obviously may yumayaman, merong hindi...kahit anong trabaho naman may ganun. mapa-musician, japayuki, engineer, nurse, hired gun...ganun talaga ang buhay. depende sa diskarte lang yan :)

nice! so true...

pero may mga careers talaga na madali at malaki pera ...sa ibang professions kasi you have to work and perform 3-5x as hard to hit mayaman level na sa ibang careers..kahit doble lang ang pagstrive mo..pasok na yung mayaman level..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: qroon on November 24, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Ano ba yung standard to be called 'Mayaman'?
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: IncX on November 25, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
Ano ba yung standard to be called 'Mayaman'?

car, house with 3 bedrooms and 1 guest room with 4 bathrooms in a good neighborhood, kids go to private school, can afford out of country vacations at least twice a year ... and the ability to pay the bills despite having those.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on November 25, 2014, 11:54:12 AM
Ano ba yung standard to be called 'Mayaman'?

i think ang pinupunto ni TS e financial security, pero very subjective diba?


kaya may post/comment ako na sarili kong definition ng mayaman.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jm the mute on November 25, 2014, 01:35:06 PM
nice! so true...

pero may mga careers talaga na madali at malaki pera ...sa ibang professions kasi you have to work and perform 3-5x as hard to hit mayaman level na sa ibang careers..kahit doble lang ang pagstrive mo..pasok na yung mayaman level..

may engineer sa pilipinas na isang kahig-isang tuka

meron naman janitor sa Italy na may pambili ng pajero pag uwi sa pinas

DISKARTE LANG YAN
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: ranzky72 on November 25, 2014, 05:10:52 PM
Most musicians remain the same,
But the music that they make, even if it does not bring them millions
Gives millions of people happiness
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jepbueno on November 25, 2014, 05:20:42 PM
Ano ba yung standard to be called 'Mayaman'?

Yung pag retire mo (at an early age) eh wala ka nang kailangang gawin para magsurvive at mag-enjoy. hahaha!
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jm the mute on November 26, 2014, 02:16:25 PM
Yung pag retire mo (at an early age) eh wala ka nang kailangang gawin para magsurvive at mag-enjoy. hahaha!

mayaman ka pag ang problema mo pang-1st world :p
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: crizer003 on March 02, 2015, 07:03:46 PM
Isang masakit na katotohanan "WALANG YUMAYAMAN SA PAG BABANDA!" 100% sure!

at bakit 100% sure ako dito?

ung mga nabanggit sa comment nung iba, kung tingin niu mayaman sila. .
oo pdeng yumaman sila pero hindi sa pag babanda kundi ung pera na kinita nila sa pag babanda na dinala nila sa negosyo.

Kahit anung sikat pa ng banda niu kahit kasing sikat ka pa ng big 4, kung source of income mo lang eh pag tugtog sigurado isa lang ang makukuha mo "FAME"

................
sa pilipinas nalang, ilan sa mga sikat na banda sa pinas (specially ung matatagal na 10yrs plus) ang literal na mayaman?

kumita marami, pero ung word na "mayaman", sorry wla ako maisip.

pero kung tatanungin kung may mayaman bang negosyante . . aba marami akong kilala.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: NomisNivra on March 03, 2015, 08:01:49 AM
mag artista nalang at maging "sell out" katulad nang iba nating mga rakista kung gusto niyong yumaman. *with matching billboard sa edsa*  :lol:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: kevzkie024 on March 08, 2015, 11:36:48 AM
There's a wise man saying "Pag may passion ka, dapat may pera ka." Hahaha.
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: fretboard on March 11, 2015, 10:46:58 AM
There's a wise man saying "Pag may passion ka, dapat may pera ka." Hahaha.

pwede!  :lol:
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: jepbueno on March 11, 2015, 11:41:32 AM
^haha

With great passion, comes great financial responsibility.

Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on March 11, 2015, 11:54:18 AM
mahirap...unless you go commercial way...other forms other directions para kumita ng pera...pero compared with other line of work and careers or passions...medyo mabagal at malaking factor ang swerte at diskarte...

totoo alaga sinasabi ng mga matatanda in a way satin noon...walang pera sa music or arts....generalized, yes ..pero its true sa majority..
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: chazkidlat on March 11, 2015, 01:14:17 PM
mayaman ka pag ang problema mo pang-1st world :p
this!
Title: Re: may yumayaman ba sa pagbabanda?
Post by: gandydancer123 on November 10, 2017, 03:23:34 PM
LOOKS, X FACTOR, LOOKS... Talent what talent?

medyo mahirap sa pinas umangat ng todo todo..kasi sobrang daming musikero na magagaling at super talented..parang palaisdaan ng talent.. sa abroad, underground scene, 3 the most apat na underground bands
ang sumasalang sa isang gabi... may call time, soundcheck, may drink/food  stubs,  may cut sa drink sales or tickets mga 1500 php a night or more  for a set of your songs... (taxi/beer money) 

 sa pinas, isang production 20-30 bands sa isang gabi..libre..daming singit..at mangheheram ng gamit..late na mga banda..

pag pro, halos 10,000 pesos minimum sa mga corporate gigs per person..