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Title: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 09:45:01 AM
anybody tried them or any other PA speakers for guitar applications? im asking because i'm poor and can't afford them eminence speakers :/
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
anybody tried them or any other PA speakers for guitar applications? im asking because i'm poor and can't afford them eminence speakers :/

well you got one other poor person here.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 11:26:55 AM
we can name this thread "speakers for poor people" :)
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
we can name this thread "speakers for poor people" :)

haha pwede.

alam ko may nag sabi na dati na pwede mg targa speakers.

I have a raul quesada tube amp head na gusto ko lagyan ng 4x12 setup kaso di ko kaya ang bumili ng speaker cab na mahal so im looking for an alternative.

I also have a 100 watts kaman tube amp as well, same scenario.

Gagamitin ko sa studio at sa paminsan minsan na underground gigs sa amin kung saan ang requirement lang naman ay malakas at pang basagan. haha.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
haha pwede.

alam ko may nag sabi na dati na pwede mg targa speakers.

I have a raul quesada tube amp head na gusto ko lagyan ng 4x12 setup kaso di ko kaya ang bumili ng speaker cab na mahal so im looking for an alternative.

I also have a 100 watts kaman tube amp as well, same scenario.

Gagamitin ko sa studio at sa paminsan minsan na underground gigs sa amin kung saan ang requirement lang naman ay malakas at pang basagan. haha.


basta tumutunog at malakas, pwede na yan! basagan! \m/
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bryanarzaga on December 09, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
look for musical instrument speaker
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
look for musical instrument speaker

http://www.crown.com.ph/categories/Instrumental-Speakers/Pro-Instrumental-High%252dPowered-Speaker(Jack-Hammer)/

it says "pro instrumental high-powered speaker"...kaso baka iba intindi ko
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 02:24:03 PM

basta tumutunog at malakas, pwede na yan! basagan! \m/

nakagamit na ako ng ng crown for both of these amp heads. pwede naman at malakas.

tsaka punk and hardcore gigs na yun.

problema ko lang since bago sa tube amp mga batang banda, on and off ang ginagawa at hindi standby. hahaha. kaya need mo sabihan.

on topic:

sana may list ng ng mga locallly available brands and models dito para hanapin na lang sa raon kung sakali.

maganda din kung may nagbebenta na. haha.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
nakagamit na ako ng ng crown for both of these amp heads. pwede naman at malakas.

tsaka punk and hardcore gigs na yun.

problema ko lang since bago sa tube amp mga batang banda, on and off ang ginagawa at hindi standby. hahaha. kaya need mo sabihan.

on topic:

sana may list ng ng mga locallly available brands and models dito para hanapin na lang sa raon kung sakali.

maganda din kung may nagbebenta na. haha.

I did some minor research (during work hours..yeah im sorry):

a typical guitar speaker should have the following specs
frequency range: 80Hz to 6000Hz or 75Hz to 5000Hz (depende sa article na nabasa ko)
sensitivity: 92db-102bd (>96db maganda na daw)

after looking up CROWN's product list, I found the model PA-1230 to be the closest to these specs
CROWN PA-1230
Power: 300W <----is this too much? most guitar speakers I've see only have a mx power handling of 100W
Impedance 8Ω
Sensitivity 98dB/W/M <---lagpas 96db. good!
Frequency Response 50Hz - 5KHz  <---mukhang kukulangin sa lower frequencies
Magnet Dimension (mm) 140x20
Voice Coil Diameter 49.5
Size 12"
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 02:38:05 PM
na research mo na amagkano?hehe. ako din sa work ako nag research e.lol
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
na research mo na amagkano?hehe. ako din sa work ako nag research e.lol

below 1.5k a pop. pwede!
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 02:41:20 PM
medyo worried lang ako dun sa power handling nya na napaka-taas at 300W

most guitar speakers kasi nasa 30W, 75W to 100W lang
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
below 1.5k a pop. pwede!

pwede!

so 6k plus yung cabinet pwede na no?

e nagbebenta si pixelwise ng 4x12 na under 10k. haha. hmmm.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 02:43:14 PM
sorry. regarding sa frequency range na 50Hz-5KHz, hindi pala kukulangin sa low frequency....sobra pa pala
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 02:43:57 PM
alam ko yan nakalagay sa cabinet na to( this is my quesada amp head, demo by xandy broque of prolets/einstein chakras)


nabenta ko na kasi yang cab na yan. so amp head na lang meron ako.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 02:46:53 PM
alam ko yan nakalagay sa cabinet na to( this is my quesada amp head, demo by xandy broque of prolets/einstein chakras)


nabenta ko na kasi yang cab na yan. so amp head na lang meron ako.

i'll check it later. walang youtube ditto sa office eh hehe

ako naman, I have a siochi head with a 2x12 cab. dati nakalagay celestion vintage 30s...binenta ko na hoping to replace them with eminence kaso ang mahal pala hehe

kamusta naman tunog ng rig mo with these speakers? anything special/different from regular guitar speakers?
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 02:50:27 PM
i'll check it later. walang youtube ditto sa office eh hehe

ako naman, I have a siochi head with a 2x12 cab. dati nakalagay celestion vintage 30s...binenta ko na hoping to replace them with eminence kaso ang mahal pala hehe

kamusta naman tunog ng rig mo with these speakers? anything special/different from regular guitar speakers?

naka 50 watt yan at that. malakas na din.

pakinggan mo sa video.

di din naman ako ma tone na tao, basta maingay pwede na. punk!haha
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 02:52:52 PM
naka 50 watt yan at that. malakas na din.

pakinggan mo sa video.

di din naman ako ma tone na tao, basta maingay pwede na. punk!haha


hahaha basta maingay pwede na! I like that!
dati nung highschool hanggang college, yan lang ang hinahanap ko sa gamit
basta natotono, tumutunog pag sinaksak, rak na yan!
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 02:57:50 PM

hahaha basta maingay pwede na! I like that!
dati nung highschool hanggang college, yan lang ang hinahanap ko sa gamit
basta natotono, tumutunog pag sinaksak, rak na yan!

ano lang naman alam ko sa gitara?haha kraang kraang krangg chug chug chug. oi oi oi!hahaha.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 02:59:24 PM
speaking of chug chug chug
ok naman yung crown speakers? chumuchugchug ba?

syet wala kasing youtube dito eh hehe di ko mapanood hehe
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
speaking of chug chug chug
ok naman yung crown speakers? chumuchugchug ba?

syet wala kasing youtube dito eh hehe di ko mapanood hehe

bro di yan gagamitin ni xandy kung di pwede pang chug chug, yung dalawang banda na nabanggit ay parehas punk bands. haha.

pinag demo nya lang siguro sleepwalk.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 03:56:05 PM
hanggang 50Hz ang frequency range nya eh...so dapat lang na chumugchug yan :)
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 09, 2014, 04:01:05 PM
I think, one time bigtime nalang...save up for the best speakers of your dreams..para isang bilihan nalang.. :lol:
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 04:07:31 PM
hanggang 50Hz ang frequency range nya eh...so dapat lang na chumugchug yan :)

hehe. chug chug chug!
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: royc on December 09, 2014, 04:08:20 PM
Check the frequency response chart. Pag hifi speaker the graph is flat, pag guitar speaker may mid frequency bump.

Eto example ng sa Vintage 30

(http://celestion.com/images/products/1/graph.gif)

A sample hifi speaker graph

(http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/jun02/images/monitorsdiag3.l.gif)
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 09, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
Check the frequency response chart. Pag hifi speaker the graph is flat, pag guitar speaker may mid frequency bump.

Eto example ng sa Vintage 30

(http://celestion.com/images/products/1/graph.gif)

unfortunately walang ganyang sa site ng CROWN

its a made in the locals eh. yeah! jag jag jag!
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 09, 2014, 08:46:29 PM
unfortunately. haha.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jeba_03 on December 09, 2014, 11:08:04 PM
I use starvox brand to substitute with celestion low wattage speakers. I can't remember if i bought it at lionco or deeco in raon many years ago.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 10, 2014, 06:12:48 AM
I use starvox brand to substitute with celestion low wattage speakers. I can't remember if i bought it at lionco or deeco in raon many years ago.

how much?
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 10, 2014, 08:06:01 AM
I use starvox brand to substitute with celestion low wattage speakers. I can't remember if i bought it at lionco or deeco in raon many years ago.

pwede po malaman specs? thanks
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jeba_03 on December 10, 2014, 09:25:25 AM
pwede po malaman specs? thanks

10" cost around 350 back then. Same specs as celestion g10l 35 but 8 ohms instead of 16.

12" cost around 480 back then. No idea on the specs though.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 10, 2014, 10:05:05 AM
10" cost around 350 back then. Same specs as celestion g10l 35 but 8 ohms instead of 16.

12" cost around 480 back then. No idea on the specs though.

when was this?
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jeba_03 on December 10, 2014, 10:13:15 AM
Way back 2006. You can check this thread http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=16183.0 for more info. Try calling deeco in Raon first. Dai-ichi also has instrument speakers available. Cost around 700 that time.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 10, 2014, 10:25:19 AM
Way back 2006. You can check this thread http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=16183.0 for more info. Try calling deeco in Raon first. Dai-ichi also has instrument speakers available. Cost around 700 that time.

thanks sir. its been a long while since I visited raon.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 10, 2014, 10:51:16 AM
I remember, me and my dad salvaged an old PIGGY BASS Amp, and it was really beat up but still works..

he managed to have the speaker reconed sa raon from some guy who set up shop along the street...and my dad redid the upholstery changing the tolex to some grey speaker carpet..bought some corner plastic guards...its still working..though Im not sure if they brought it when we moved house recently..haha

its not that high fi as newer bass amps with all the nice frequencies pronounced, walang kalansing (na trip kong sound for a bass amp) but it does the trick for our jams of yesteryear..
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 10, 2014, 10:55:38 AM
I remember, me and my dad salvaged an old PIGGY BASS Amp, and it was really beat up but still works..

he managed to have the speaker reconed sa raon from some guy who set up shop along the street...and my dad redid the upholstery changing the tolex to some grey speaker carpet..bought some corner plastic guards...its still working..though Im not sure if they brought it when we moved house recently..haha

its not that high fi as newer bass amps with all the nice frequencies pronounced, walang kalansing (na trip kong sound for a bass amp) but it does the trick for our jams of yesteryear..

TITO GANDY :p
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 10, 2014, 10:58:57 AM
I remember going to Raon by myself for the first time..I wore some boysen tshirt thats shabby as f*ck..and kept my money taped to my slipper strap... fearing getting mugged..haha..

bought a cheapo mic stand that day I think...or some BMX bike parts I cant remember..haha

seriously now? Id avoid Raon or Sta.Mesa shops...as there are now more sophisticated shops and sellers all over..that have better gear products and accessories..
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 10, 2014, 11:03:32 AM
I remember going to Raon by myself for the first time..I wore some boysen tshirt thats shabby as f*ck..and kept my money taped to my slipper strap... fearing getting mugged..haha..

bought a cheapo mic stand that day I think...or some BMX bike parts I cant remember..haha

seriously now? Id avoid Raon or Sta.Mesa shops...as there are now more sophisticated shops and sellers all over..that have better gear products and accessories..

I remember the sex toys they sell sa sidewalks

Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 10, 2014, 11:05:16 AM
More of Tito Gandy, haha

I also remember when we were starting out..I got so obsessed with those cheapo ROTO amps and Drumset..a kit was like 6,000 php..and we wanted to set up a jamming studio with my bro..and I was really bummed kasi di mabili..as 6k was too big for our budget.. but you know how these stuff are..really "obscure barrio combo/ or overpass blind man playing guitar " quality and specs...

hahaha...

luckily we ended with a Fernando kit...from JB Cubao...which was 10x better...
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 10, 2014, 11:11:44 AM
More of Tito Gandy, haha

I also remember when we were starting out..I got so obsessed with those cheapo ROTO amps and Drumset..a kit was like 6,000 php..and we wanted to set up a jamming studio with my bro..and I was really bummed kasi di mabili..as 6k was too big for our budget.. but you know how these stuff are..really "obscure barrio combo/ or overpass blind man playing guitar " quality and specs...

hahaha...

luckily we ended with a Fernando kit...from JB Cubao...which was 10x better...

I bought a drumset for 8k 10 years ago...so tito

but what I like about raon are the salonga music stores. everything they sell at JB is 50% cheaper. zoom multifx to laney solidstates
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 10, 2014, 11:14:41 AM
I remember the sex toys they sell sa sidewalks

yeah! the classic "pilik mata ng kambing"...all there... was quite familiar with quiapo since my grandma was a black nazarene devotee and my uncle worked in a bank near the bridge where they sold those capiz and handicrafts..
well anyway... one time I drove our shiny new Vespa over there under the heat of the sun just wearing a sando, shorts and slippers...and was freaking afraid where to park the damn thing safely!

the speaker guys over there can rewind and recone fast and cheap... haha been there 4-5 years ago to checkout the photography area, hidalgo ba yun?! haha

ahhh...good old Manila... and of course..those freaking seedy,hanky panky Art Deco Movie Houses! hahaha  bought a lot of stuff there, bmx,bike stuff, military surplus gear, and music stuff..

hmmm come to think of it..lahat ng trip ko sa hobbies ko..nandun na pala lahat...

except the seedy movie houses though! hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 10, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
I bought a drumset for 8k 10 years ago...so tito

but what I like about raon are the salonga music stores. everything they sell at JB is 50% cheaper. zoom multifx to laney solidstates


ahhh didnt know that one! thanks for the tip! hehe

ok tama na Tito Gandy mode.. back to Topic guys..sorry for the kwento! hahaha
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 10, 2014, 11:26:06 AM
"lahat yan nasa raon" - tito
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 10, 2014, 03:35:15 PM
on topic.

any other local brand and model suggestions?
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: masarapangtaho on December 10, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
More of Tito Gandy, haha

I also remember when we were starting out..I got so obsessed with those cheapo ROTO amps and Drumset..a kit was like 6,000 php..and we wanted to set up a jamming studio with my bro..and I was really bummed kasi di mabili..as 6k was too big for our budget.. but you know how these stuff are..really "obscure barrio combo/ or overpass blind man playing guitar " quality and specs...

hahaha...

luckily we ended with a Fernando kit...from JB Cubao...which was 10x better...

buhay pa yung mga ROTO? the bass amp stayed with me for a while. i think dai-ichi young speakers nun na 15s.
and since the heads are [not too] bad, the speakers sounded dead a bit.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 10, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
buhay pa yung mga ROTO? the bass amp stayed with me for a while. i think dai-ichi young speakers nun na 15s.
and since the heads are [not too] bad, the speakers sounded dead a bit.

nakay Ging na ba yun, I think nasa kanya yata! hahaha good stuff, good times!  :wave:

bassist na ako ngayon dito Migs! nyahaha...
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: ukeleleboy on December 10, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
Crown PA-1220 ang nilagay ko na instrumental speaker sa ginawa ko na 1 x 12 guitar cab, ok naman ang tunog.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: starkiller on December 10, 2014, 07:32:17 PM
Consider the Dai-1chi IS series instrumental speakers. Its not a big secret that Dai-1chi is an OEM for Celestion, and this series is most likely similar.

Take a look at the frequency response of the Dai-ichi IS12000 12".  Emphasis on 80Hz-5000Hz, with roll-off on the low bass and treble frequencies.  Just right for guitars.
(http://www.wagneronline.com.au/prodimages/Section6_Images/IS12000.jpg)

Though I like the frequency response graph of the IS10000 10" better.  Smoother on the upper midrange, and no spikes on the treble.
(http://www.wagneronline.com.au/prodimages/Section6_Images/IS10000.jpg)

I'm pretty sure they're not as cheap as the brands mentioned earlier, but at least its not hit-and-miss.  With the response graphs above, there is good indication that its fit for guitars.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: greasykid on December 11, 2014, 02:43:46 AM
Napadaan ako sa DEECO Farmers Plaza kanina. 895 pesos yung Crown PA-1220. 
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: bakit? on December 11, 2014, 06:30:07 AM
magkano sa dai ichi sir?

thanks sa suggestions.

wala ako makitang IS2000 sa list nila:

http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/dragonspeakers.html

at PA 1220 sa site ng crown:

http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/dragonspeakers.html

ang tataas ng wattage ng mga yan. i have 2 100watt tube amps and 2 solid state bass amps na 100watts din na gusto ko paresan ng mga speakers na to for underground/diy gigs lang.

i plan to go for 2x12, 4 x12 or 4x10s sa cabinets para malakas.

from what i understand, ohms ang dapat na chinecheck instead of wattage kung sa compatibility di ba?

i plan to put them on custom cabinets like these:
https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=speaker+cabinet+designs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=z9yIVNLVNJXt8AWvhoD4BQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1013&bih=258#tbm=isch&q=speaker+cabinet+designs+for+guitar+&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=981GSVt5OOTTGM%253A%3BQQzkCgj2fDvQyM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.yellowcabamplification.com%252Fimages%252F115combo.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.yellowcabamplification.com%252F%3B250%3B325

https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=speaker+cabinet+designs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=z9yIVNLVNJXt8AWvhoD4BQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1013&bih=258#tbm=isch&q=speaker+cabinet+designs+for+guitar+&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=MEMbPI6bodIFNM%253A%3Br8q8Pftj9lUfwM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.irun100s.com%252Fphotos%252FGuitars%252FSpeakerBlackheartAmp.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.tdpri.com%252Fforum%252Fshock-brothers-diy-amps%252F186753-rebuild-5w-tube-amp-drive-2x10-cabinet.html%3B720%3B540
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 11, 2014, 08:13:04 AM
Napadaan ako sa DEECO Farmers Plaza kanina. 895 pesos yung Crown PA-1220.

nice one
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 11, 2014, 08:15:33 AM
renamed the thread.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 11, 2014, 08:45:21 AM
baka naman may mga pwede kau ishare na experiences dyan with regard to these speakers.

i believe yung mga tube amps na gawa ni mang raul are made to use with these locally available speakers.

(napaisip tuloy ako ibenta yung tube amp head ko, may 2 pa ako combo tube amp na gusto bilhin na gawa ni mang raul which are fitted with locally available speakers as well)
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 11, 2014, 08:54:04 AM
baka naman may mga pwede kau ishare na experiences dyan with regard to these speakers.

i believe yung mga tube amps na gawa ni mang raul are made to use with these locally available speakers.

(napaisip tuloy ako ibenta yung tube amp head ko, may 2 pa ako combo tube amp na gusto bilhin na gawa ni mang raul which are fitted with locally available speakers as well)

seryoso mode na tayo :p
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 11, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
seryoso mode na tayo :p

haha. oo tol e.

ive been planning to put up a bar in the north(actually nag karoon na, kaso yung business partner ko ibang "bar" ang gusto yung may sumasayaw, haha).

so ngayon, since may existing equipment ako at kulang pa sa funds, im planning to just use whatever i have and go diy. maganda lang na may matugtugan mga maiingay na banda. haha.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 11, 2014, 09:58:16 AM
haha. oo tol e.

ive been planning to put up a bar in the north(actually nag karoon na, kaso yung business partner ko ibang "bar" ang gusto yung may sumasayaw, haha).

so ngayon, since may existing equipment ako at kulang pa sa funds, im planning to just use whatever i have and go diy. maganda lang na may matugtugan mga maiingay na banda. haha.

hehe wag mo bitawan yung "bar na may sumasayaw". pwede yan haha

oo pag hardkuran kahit bodega lang, drum kit, amp, mic at PA. pwede na yun! baragan!
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 11, 2014, 10:57:09 AM
hehe wag mo bitawan yung "bar na may sumasayaw". pwede yan haha

oo pag hardkuran kahit bodega lang, drum kit, amp, mic at PA. pwede na yun! baragan!

well inalis ko na gamit. nasisira ako sa local community since ako din gumagawa ng mga events for "legit" establishments. bad for business, good for fun. haha. imagine me handling a bar with girls. but yeah it was fun. but again not good if you want to establish a scene.

yep, im planning a warehouse bar. sana sana sana.
Title: Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
Post by: jm the mute on December 11, 2014, 11:26:28 AM
Napadaan ako sa DEECO Farmers Plaza kanina. 895 pesos yung Crown PA-1220.

saan po nga pala sa farmers plaza ung DEECO? its been a looooooooooooooong while since I visited cubao (cubao yun right?)

meron rin kaya sila nung PA-1230?

im thinking of mixing up a crown PA-1220 and a PA-1230 in my 2x12 cab.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 11, 2014, 11:54:09 AM
puntahan ko din yan one of these days. hehe.

Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: greasykid on December 11, 2014, 11:17:57 PM
Ground floor, sa entrance na katapat ng palengke.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: ukeleleboy on December 12, 2014, 09:31:27 AM
Sa raon P800.00 lang ang Crown PA-1220.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 12, 2014, 10:09:01 AM
Sa raon P800.00 lang ang Crown PA-1220.

cool. and mas malapit pa. thanks sir.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: ukeleleboy on December 12, 2014, 10:12:02 AM
cool. and mas malapit pa. thanks sir.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 12, 2014, 10:28:44 AM
keep em coming. haha. makakapagpagawa na ako ng mga malalaking speaker cabs.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 12, 2014, 10:33:32 AM
keep em coming. haha. makakapagpagawa na ako ng mga malalaking speaker cabs.

nice! kung ganun nga kamura...and ok ang tunog, nakakagana mag 4x12 hehe
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 12, 2014, 10:34:54 AM
nice! kung ganun nga kamura...and ok ang tunog, nakakagana mag 4x12 hehe

16x12. wahahaha. wall of loudness fvuckery!
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 12, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
16x12. wahahaha. wall of loudness fvuckery!

cheap ass wall of sound hehe
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: ukeleleboy on December 12, 2014, 07:16:17 PM
My self made 1 x 12 guitar cabinet with Crown PA-1220 Speaker. :mrgreen:

(http://rs200.pbsrc.com/albums/aa137/jocelyn_paulene/Mobile%20Uploads/image-2.jpg~320x480?t=1418382033)
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: cacophony on December 12, 2014, 08:26:18 PM
Anyone tried Targa speakers?
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: skrumian on December 13, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
My self made 1 x 12 guitar cabinet with Crown PA-1220 Speaker. :mrgreen:

(http://rs200.pbsrc.com/albums/aa137/jocelyn_paulene/Mobile%20Uploads/image-2.jpg~320x480?t=1418382033)

Hows the sound and eq of this speakers? I'm interested. Thanks.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 14, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
crown and daiichi speakers from raon. cheap a$$!
(http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/Jan_Naceno/raon_zps188793e2.jpg) (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/Jan_Naceno/media/raon_zps188793e2.jpg.html)
(http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/Jan_Naceno/vgt_zps4f349de3.jpg) (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/Jan_Naceno/media/vgt_zps4f349de3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 07:11:44 AM
crown and daiichi speakers from raon. cheap a$$!
(http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/Jan_Naceno/raon_zps188793e2.jpg) (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/Jan_Naceno/media/raon_zps188793e2.jpg.html)
(http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac279/Jan_Naceno/vgt_zps4f349de3.jpg) (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/Jan_Naceno/media/vgt_zps4f349de3.jpg.html)

musta tunog my man?
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 08:44:26 AM
musta tunog my man?

ok naman. tunog patok jeep sa cubao \m/ boom-bag-boom-boom!

tunog guitar amp naman. di ko na matandaan tunog nung vintage 30s ko dati pero parang mas darker tong combination na to...more on the low mids side sya. unlike the vintage 30s na nasa high mids. but then again, I really don't know what i'm talking about. basta tumutunog and it sounds ok, im happy. #squattertones #baraganmetal
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bryanarzaga on December 15, 2014, 09:03:00 AM
thats the thing, i use PA speakers back in 1998 and the tone was ok when i was jamming with a stereo, very bassy and boomy but it doesnt cut through the mix

anyway i love eminence speakers but i still like to try different alternatives out there, so i emailed parts express and they have these

http://www.parts-express.com/pr12gs50-8-12-guitar-speaker-8-ohm--299-357

http://www.parts-express.com/pr10gs50-8-10-guitar-speaker-8-ohm--299-358

i just bought a pair of studio 7 12" guitar speakers for 30$ shipped, so ill see how those sound


Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 09:21:54 AM
thats the thing, i use PA speakers back in 1998 and the tone was ok when i was jamming with a stereo, very bassy and boomy but it doesnt cut through the mix

anyway i love eminence speakers but i still like to try different alternatives out there, so i emailed parts express and they have these

http://www.parts-express.com/pr12gs50-8-12-guitar-speaker-8-ohm--299-357

http://www.parts-express.com/pr10gs50-8-10-guitar-speaker-8-ohm--299-358

i just bought a pair of studio 7 12" guitar speakers for 30$ shipped, so ill see how those sound

haven't tried it in a band setting. I hope it cuts through.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
thats the thing, i use PA speakers back in 1998 and the tone was ok when i was jamming with a stereo, very bassy and boomy but it doesnt cut through the mix

anyway i love eminence speakers but i still like to try different alternatives out there, so i emailed parts express and they have these

http://www.parts-express.com/pr12gs50-8-12-guitar-speaker-8-ohm--299-357

http://www.parts-express.com/pr10gs50-8-10-guitar-speaker-8-ohm--299-358

i just bought a pair of studio 7 12" guitar speakers for 30$ shipped, so ill see how those sound


30.00 USD   =   1,338.75 PHP thats 2 speakers?
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: inigo on December 15, 2014, 12:55:44 PM
Ya pag PA speakers, hi-fi ang orientation nya, so full range of frequencies. Sounds bassy kapag guitar ang ginamit. Sa guitar kasi hindi importante ang full-range, emphasis lang on mids.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bryanarzaga on December 15, 2014, 12:58:48 PM

30.00 USD   =   1,338.75 PHP thats 2 speakers?

yeah for 2 speakers, its was a bid


This brand new pair of 16 ohm 12 inch drivers from Studio 7 have a max wattage of 400 watts and are designed and engineered in the USA. Each driver features a 35oz magnet with cloth accordion surround, paper cone, progressive rolled spider, high temperature 2 inch rolled copper voice coil and steel frames. These woofers deliver deep bass while still maintaining full range sound. These are the perfect replacement woofers for your pro audio speakers, guitar cabinets and more!

Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 01:01:41 PM
yeah for 2 speakers, its was a bid


This brand new pair of 16 ohm 12 inch drivers from Studio 7 have a max wattage of 400 watts and are designed and engineered in the USA. Each driver features a 35oz magnet with cloth accordion surround, paper cone, progressive rolled spider, high temperature 2 inch rolled copper voice coil and steel frames. These woofers deliver deep bass while still maintaining full range sound. These are the perfect replacement woofers for your pro audio speakers, guitar cabinets and more!

that's cheap! pa-review naman when you get it sir!

I checked the links, pero they didn't say about the sensitivity and frequency range.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 01:08:30 PM
Anyone tried Targa speakers?

saw a lot of these at raon kaso di nakasulat ung specs kaya di ko na-chineck out

btw, about the price, I got my crown and dai-ichi in a shop about mid-way through raon...mas malapit sa bukana, mas mahal. here are the prices:

crown pa-1230 (I got it 1k. sa shop na mas malapit dun sa bukana, 1.4k)
dai-ichi isi2000i (I got it 1.5k)

I could have explored the area more para makahanp ng cheaper price kaso medyo 6:45pm na nun and gusto ko nang tumakbo sa binondo at kumain sa dongbei.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 01:25:40 PM
saw a lot of these at raon kaso di nakasulat ung specs kaya di ko na-chineck out

btw, about the price, I got my crown and dai-ichi in a shop about mid-way through raon...mas malapit sa bukana, mas mahal. here are the prices:

crown pa-1230 (I got it 1k. sa shop na mas malapit dun sa bukana, 1.4k)
dai-ichi isi2000i (I got it 1.5k)

I could have explored the area more para makahanp ng cheaper price kaso medyo 6:45pm na nun and gusto ko nang tumakbo sa binondo at kumain sa dongbei.

videohan mo na. makakatulong ka ng malaki sa aming mahihirap na nagogoyo sa olx.hahhaa
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 01:30:59 PM
videohan mo na. makakatulong ka ng malaki sa aming mahihirap na nagogoyo sa olx.hahhaa

bakit "nagogoyo sa olx"? hehe

dun sa shop na binilhan ko, pwede mo naman itest yung speakers...kaso itetest nila yung mga 80's non-stop disco remix ng "brother louie" and "tarzan boy"

bayong-bayo eh! BOOM-PAG-BOOM-BOOM-PAG!
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
bakit "nagogoyo sa olx"? hehe

dun sa shop na binilhan ko, pwede mo naman itest yung speakers...kaso itetest nila yung mga 80's non-stop disco remix ng "brother louie" and "tarzan boy"

bayong-bayo eh! BOOM-PAG-BOOM-BOOM-PAG!

galing ko bumili e, nagoyo ako ng peke ng sheraton. haha.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 01:42:43 PM
galing ko bumili e, nagoyo ako ng peke ng sheraton. haha.

whoa...delikado pala dun.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 03:22:02 PM
well ngaun ko lang na experience. since shipping, di ko na check yung item.

it was posted as a sheraton e. sheratong pala.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 03:23:05 PM
well ngaun ko lang na experience. since shipping, di ko na check yung item.

it was posted as a sheraton e. sheratong pala.

haha sheratong made by epiphong
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 03:24:18 PM
haha sheratong made by epiphong

exactly. dyahe pang xmas at bday gift ko yun e.haha
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
exactly. dyahe pang xmas at bday gift ko yun e.haha

ok lang yan, basta ok naman tumunog. sabi nga ni Nathan Azarcon...
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 03:33:36 PM
ok lang yan, basta ok naman tumunog. sabi nga ni Nathan Azarcon...

kahit na. haha.

wala ako pakialam kung kaya nya patunugin ang kawayan na parang ash, ang sa akin lang, i paid for it. haha.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 15, 2014, 03:40:26 PM
kahit na. haha.

wala ako pakialam kung kaya nya patunugin ang kawayan na parang ash, ang sa akin lang, i paid for it. haha.

ok lang yan kahit bili lang sa raon yung speakers. basta I-full volume mo lang amp mo para ikaw lang marinig. try mo sir.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 15, 2014, 03:42:12 PM
ok lang yan kahit bili lang sa raon yung speakers. basta I-full volume mo lang amp mo para ikaw lang marinig. try mo sir.

hahaha.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bryanarzaga on December 17, 2014, 01:38:52 PM
got my Studio 7 speakers today, they are made by Goldwood

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/bryanarzaga/CF76D714-4A40-491C-85B9-634E0333FEA4_zpsnleunngq.jpg) (http://s537.photobucket.com/user/bryanarzaga/media/CF76D714-4A40-491C-85B9-634E0333FEA4_zpsnleunngq.jpg.html)

i'll install one of them in bugera v22
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 17, 2014, 01:39:43 PM
got my Studio 7 speakers today, they are made by Goldwood

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff338/bryanarzaga/CF76D714-4A40-491C-85B9-634E0333FEA4_zpsnleunngq.jpg) (http://s537.photobucket.com/user/bryanarzaga/media/CF76D714-4A40-491C-85B9-634E0333FEA4_zpsnleunngq.jpg.html)

i'll install one of them in bugera v22

sir review and soundclips ha?
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 17, 2014, 03:05:46 PM
i'll be waiting for the reviews din.

haven't tried my crown+daiichi combo in a band situation. no time for jamming eh :/

Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 17, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
i'll be waiting for the reviews din.

haven't tried my crown+daiichi combo in a band situation. no time for jamming eh :/

tara jam na!haha.

btw may stocks pa nyang studio 7?mukhang mahusay e.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 17, 2014, 03:39:57 PM
Ya pag PA speakers, hi-fi ang orientation nya, so full range of frequencies. Sounds bassy kapag guitar ang ginamit. Sa guitar kasi hindi importante ang full-range, emphasis lang on mids.

if ganito, makakatulong ba ang EQ pedal sa effects loop (series)?
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: inigo on December 17, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
if ganito, makakatulong ba ang EQ pedal sa effects loop (series)?

Pwede siguro.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: gandydancer123 on December 17, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
i'll be waiting for the reviews din.

haven't tried my crown+daiichi combo in a band situation. no time for jamming eh :/

sama ako sa jam!
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 17, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
sama ako sa jam!

game. pero magdala kayo ng mga tibak na atenista. oops sorry wrong thread.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: inigo on December 17, 2014, 04:45:01 PM
if ganito, makakatulong ba ang EQ pedal sa effects loop (series)?

Found this:
"Guitar drivers typically have a high Fs (resonate frequency) and low mass cones to produce high SPLs but with poor low bass response."

Here:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=415849

I haven't tried and I don't know for sure, but while the EQ might help in cutting some low frequency (or adding highs), the high mass of the hi-fi speaker cone may have an effect of smoothened highs.

A-B na kasi.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on December 17, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
Found this:
"Guitar drivers typically have a high Fs (resonate frequency) and low mass cones to produce high SPLs but with poor low bass response."

Here:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=415849

I haven't tried and I don't know for sure, but while the EQ might help in cutting some low frequency (or adding highs), the high mass of the hi-fi speaker cone may have an effect of smoothened highs.

A-B na kasi.


haha ikaw may studio eh
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bryanarzaga on December 17, 2014, 09:33:41 PM
sir review and soundclips ha?

i'll post it in g.t.p
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: inkslingerx on December 19, 2014, 02:01:36 PM
i got Magnum instrument speakers  from raon way back 2008 i think, used it for my DIY 2 2X12 cabs, masaya naman ako sa tunog. Speakers rated @ 200W 8 ohms, Php 600, not bad for the sound im getting... :-D basta malakas  :lol:
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bryanarzaga on December 20, 2014, 02:47:37 PM
Man im proud withmy studio 7 speakers, it has more beef and top end, compression is good, definitely more headroom, the v22 has a more modern feel now.. Vid clip in gtp
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: bakit? on December 21, 2014, 01:56:10 PM
Man im proud withmy studio 7 speakers, it has more beef and top end, compression is good, definitely more headroom, the v22 has a more modern feel now.. Vid clip in gtp

woot nice nice!
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: titser_marco on May 26, 2015, 06:03:24 PM
Man im proud withmy studio 7 speakers, it has more beef and top end, compression is good, definitely more headroom, the v22 has a more modern feel now.. Vid clip in gtp

Where did you buy them and how much? Am considering the Crown PA-1230 but it's great to know that there are alternatives.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: CeL1916 on September 22, 2017, 05:25:51 PM
Up ko to, ano ba okay bilhin ngayon?
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: titser_marco on September 22, 2017, 05:56:39 PM
Been eyeing the Crown Jackhammers for a long time. I might get one this weekend.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: CeL1916 on September 22, 2017, 06:07:30 PM
Been eyeing the Crown Jackhammers for a long time. I might get one this weekend.
Waiting for reviews sir :)

Aling jackhammer sir?  Ang dami pala nun
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on September 28, 2017, 01:45:20 PM
ok lang yan kahit bili lang sa raon yung speakers. basta I-full volume mo lang amp mo para ikaw lang marinig. try mo sir.

forget about raon speakers. ended up selling my cab with them and settled on an orange 1x12 with vintage 30s...the "correct" speakers my amp was designed on
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: CeL1916 on September 28, 2017, 11:30:19 PM
forget about raon speakers. ended up selling my cab with them and settled on an orange 1x12 with vintage 30s...the "correct" speakers my amp was designed on

Pang "preference change" thread ah.
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: jm the mute on October 03, 2017, 01:56:06 PM
Pang "preference change" thread ah.

LELz
Title: Re: Cheap Alternatives for Guitar Speakers
Post by: titser_marco on October 05, 2017, 12:14:11 PM
Got a JH 105 and a PA1250. Ok lang, cost me less than 3k for both. Nothing spectacular but it can get you through a gig in case your stock speaker blows up.

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