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Title: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 10, 2016, 01:15:44 AM

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: shoegaze geezer on December 11, 2016, 09:56:06 AM
Sounds good based in the reviews on the net.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 15, 2016, 12:32:19 AM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: rico099 on April 07, 2017, 12:39:26 PM
Any owners of this amp?
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: riddler on April 07, 2017, 01:47:14 PM
I have the Katana 100 112 and it sounds amazing. Definitely the best solid-state amp at its price point.


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Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: rico099 on April 08, 2017, 05:55:34 PM
have you tried the 50watts version? I am planning to buy the amp but financially limited to the 50watts version only.
I am hoping its loud enough to cut through a live band.

edit:
Just indoor live band practice
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: riddler on April 08, 2017, 08:10:29 PM
have you tried the 50watts version? I am planning to buy the amp but financially limited to the 50watts version only.
I am hoping its loud enough to cut through a live band.

edit:
Just indoor live band practice

No experience with the 50 watt version but I think it should be more than enough for an indoor band practice.


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Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: mikomiko on April 20, 2017, 06:19:39 AM
I have the Katana 100 112 and it sounds amazing. Definitely the best solid-state amp at its price point.


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+1 I will Definitely Choose it over a Line 6 Spider even the flextone! any given day
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Skybox on April 20, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
Balita ko the 100 watt combo does a decent Marshall plexi emulation.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on April 26, 2017, 09:35:43 AM

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: itsallintheblues on April 27, 2017, 04:34:12 PM
wondering about this too! hopefully owners will post their reviews!
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on May 06, 2017, 09:39:05 AM
wondering about this too! hopefully owners will post their reviews!

 :)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on May 15, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on May 17, 2017, 10:38:00 PM
BOSS Tone Studio for Windows is currently unavailable. The application does not install correctly in some PC environments. Thank you in advance for your understanding.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on May 24, 2017, 03:09:23 PM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on May 30, 2017, 06:53:31 PM

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: dullFingers on May 30, 2017, 09:53:15 PM
Check out the "sounds like dimebag without busting the bank" video by rabea massad. He used one and sounded really good. Considering he used a boss metal zone for his dirt pedal.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on June 11, 2017, 07:44:21 PM
Check out the "sounds like dimebag without busting the bank" video by rabea massad. He used one and sounded really good. Considering he used a boss metal zone for his dirt pedal.

 :-)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: dullFingers on June 11, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
ERRATUM:

1. The video is titled "sound like dimebag BY busting the bank"

2. The amp they used was the Boss WAZA amp head. Not the Katana.

My bad. I guess I got too excited after watching that video.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on June 11, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
ERRATUM:

1. The video is titled "sound like dimebag BY busting the bank"

2. The amp they used was the Boss WAZA amp head. Not the Katana.

My bad. I guess I got too excited after watching that video.

Cheers!
:)


Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on June 13, 2017, 04:58:30 PM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on June 14, 2017, 10:29:56 PM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: spoonbender on June 16, 2017, 12:28:33 PM
Any local dealers?
Price range?
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: spoonbender on June 20, 2017, 03:28:52 PM
Any local dealers?
Price range?

Ok, to answer my own question...
http://www.roland.com.ph/products/amplifiers/cat.php (http://www.roland.com.ph/products/amplifiers/cat.php)
 :-D
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Skybox on June 20, 2017, 05:55:01 PM
Saw the 100W head at Perfect Pitch selling for 23k+. Sakto sa 1x12 cab yung size. Ka-price ng DSL15 head haha. #salivating
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on June 20, 2017, 08:25:58 PM
Saw the 100W head at Perfect Pitch selling for 23k+. Sakto sa 1x12 cab yung size. Ka-price ng DSL15 head haha. #salivating

 :-)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on June 24, 2017, 04:48:55 PM
Got the head. The HYPE is real. Maganda tunog. Ang layo sa mga Line 6 at Blackstar SS amps. Juicy mids. Try it with a great 2x12 or 4x12 cab! It's loud. It sounds 90% like my Peavey 6505 Mini Head. Only this one has more body and volume.

And that 5 inch built in speaker!!! It sounds quite good. Now to try those SNEAKY AMPS inside this thing.

Best $275 I have spent.

(https://preview.ibb.co/i3fLk5/19420857_10210285615482214_4937900847769934474_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on June 24, 2017, 05:12:39 PM
Got the head. The HYPE is real. Maganda tunog. Ang layo sa mga Line 6 at Blackstar SS amps. Juicy mids. Try it with a great 2x12 or 4x12 cab! It's loud. It sounds 90% like my Peavey 6505 Mini Head. Only this one has more body and volume.

And that 5 inch built in speaker!!! It sounds quite good. Now to try those SNEAKY AMPS inside this thing.

Best $275 I have spent.

(https://preview.ibb.co/i3fLk5/19420857_10210285615482214_4937900847769934474_n.jpg)

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Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: stL on July 16, 2017, 08:38:40 PM
I have the 50 W.

For the price, I didn't expect to be blown away. Besides, I was just looking for an able platform for my GT-1.

Got disappointed at first as I thought my pre-loved Fender Mustang I V2 sounded better. I expected this amp to be more pedal-friendly.  I just wanted to use it straight-up panel mode which the Mustang doesn't have and I'm not interested in the internal effects it offers as they are modelled from the GT-1 anyway. I almost regretted buying this as I thought the speakers sounded flat. The only consolation was the full-range acoustic channel that makes it a quite decent acoustic amp.

But after a couple of weeks, I realized that I only set it between 0.5 and 25 W settings as I didn't want to piss off my housemates because I knew it can get too loud. Yesterday, I set it to 50-watts and noodled away. Only then I felt the "bounce" I've experienced in Marshall JCM 600. It felt "tubey" and the clean tones are surprisingly great.

Now I can tell I was quite blown away with the analog feel of this SS amp. It sounds great and its damn loud!

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on July 17, 2017, 01:31:44 AM
I have the 50 W.

For the price, I didn't expect to be blown away. Besides, I was just looking for an able platform for my GT-1.

Got disappointed at first as I thought my pre-loved Fender Mustang I V2 sounded better. I expected this amp to be more pedal-friendly.  I just wanted to use it straight-up panel mode which the Mustang doesn't have and I'm not interested in the internal effects it offers as they are modelled from the GT-1 anyway. I almost regretted buying this as I thought the speakers sounded flat. The only consolation was the full-range acoustic channel that makes it a quite decent acoustic amp.

But after a couple of weeks, I realized that I only set it between 0.5 and 25 W settings as I didn't want to piss off my housemates because I knew it can get too loud. Yesterday, I set it to 50-watts and noodled away. Only then I felt the "bounce" I've experienced in Marshall JCM 600. It felt "tubey" and the clean tones are surprisingly great.

Now I can tell I was quite blown away with the analog feel of this SS amp. It sounds great and its damn loud!

 :)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on July 18, 2017, 07:05:37 PM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Skybox on July 26, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
I auditioned the Boss Katana 100 1x12 at Perfect Pitch today with a 2017 Fender Am. Spec. Strat. I noodled around with the clean and brown sound settings and I must admit that although it does sound great, somehow it is still not as satisfying as a tube amp.

It reminds me of the Pancit Canton analogy.

I LIKE PANSIT CANTON AS IT IS CHEAP AND SATISFYING BUT WILL NOT REFUSE PANSIT CANTON SERVED AT ANY FANCY SCMANCY PLACE AS LONG AS I CAN AFFORD IT.

pareho clang nakakabusog at masarap para sa akin,so the fuss about boutique gears and whatnots is not really that big deal to me.

if you can afford it thats fine,if not that is still ok just as long as you enjoy what you play.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on August 02, 2017, 01:07:24 AM
I auditioned the Boss Katana 100 1x12 at Perfect Pitch today with a 2017 Fender Am. Spec. Strat. I noodled around with the clean and brown sound settings and I must admit that although it does sound great, somehow it is still not as satisfying as a tube amp.

It reminds me of the Pancit Canton analogy.

The thing with the combos is that the speakers are not that good.For tube feels, you need to run the master high. But yeah, still not the real thing. Still better that the other tube emulating amps in that price range, though.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Skybox on August 02, 2017, 01:03:06 PM
The thing with the combos is that the speakers are not that good.For tube feels, you need to run the master high. But yeah, still not the real thing. Still better that the other tube emulating amps in that price range, though.

GAS tuloy ako sa KAT50. Hays.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on August 03, 2017, 07:13:56 AM
GAS tuloy ako sa KAT50. Hays.

KAT100 ka na. Walang presence control and kulang channels ng 50.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Skybox on August 03, 2017, 09:12:30 AM
KAT100 ka na. Walang presence control and kulang channels ng 50.

Layo ng price difference bro eh. Kapag nag sale siguro ang Yupanco and madamay yung KAT100. Kelan nga ba ang handog sale?
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: shoegaze geezer on August 03, 2017, 11:20:01 AM
Layo ng price difference bro eh. Kapag nag sale siguro ang Yupanco and madamay yung KAT100. Kelan nga ba ang handog sale?

yupanco handog sale is every october.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Skybox on August 03, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
yupanco handog sale is every october.

#AlamNaThis
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on October 02, 2017, 06:12:32 PM

KATANA System Program (Ver.2.01)
Use BOSS TONE STUDIO for KATANA Version 2 as a set with KATANA series version 2.
How to tell the version
Please check the version of the system working on your KATANA before downloading the archive file.

    Turn the POWER switch on while holding down the [ TAP ] button.
    If the indicators light up as described below, the system is at the latest version.
    For KATANA-100, KATANA-100/212, or KATANA-HEAD
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "0.5W," the indicator for "DELAY/FX" lights up.
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "100W," the indicator for "REVERB" lights up.

    For KATANA-50
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "0.5W," the indicator for "DELAY/FX" lights up.
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "50W," the indicator for "REVERB" lights up.
    If the indicators light up in a different way than just described, perform an update.
    When you have finished verifying the version, turn off the power.

* Don't perform the update if the product is already up-to-date.

Update history
[ Ver.2.01 ] OCT 2017
Additional Functions
Please refer to the "KATANA Owner's Manual" for detailed information in the [ Owner's Manuals ].
To make settings for added functions, use BOSS TONE STUDIO for KATANA Version 2.

    A function to switch between BANK A/B has been added to TONE SETTING.
    Please refer to the "KATANA Series Version 2 Supplementary Manual" for detailed information in the [ Owner's Manuals ].
    "LINE OUT AIR FEEL" and "CABINET RESONANCE" were added.
    "PHASE 90E" and "FLANGER 117E" were added to TYPE for MOD/FX.
    "SDE-3000" was added to DELAY TYPE.
    DELAY2, EQ (PATCH EQ), and GLOBAL EQ effect modules were added.
    SEND/RETURN is now settable for each individual TONE SETTING value.
    Setting the PC and CC numbers received by MIDI is now possible.

[ Ver.1.02 ] OCT 2016
Functionality Improvements

    Support for BOSS TONE STUDIO for KATANA was added.
    Noise when switching effects was reduced.

Bug Fix
The following bug was fixed.

    No sound produced immediately after making a USB connection.


What you will need to update your KATANA

    KATANA
    USB cable
    A computer with a USB connector ( Windows, Mac )

Caution when performing the update

    Never apply this update data to any product other than the KATANA. This update data may destroy the data or system program of other products.
    Never power-off your KATANA while the update is in progress!
    If a power failure or similar accident occurs during the update process, the KATANA won't be able to start up in normal operating mode. This will require servicing, so you will need to contact Roland service center near you if this occurs.
    We regret that we are unable to answer questions regarding the update procedure using this system program. Please perform the update responsibly, following the directions given in this document.

Getting the update file
Please open/extract the downloaded "katana_sys_v201.zip" file on your computer to get the two update files named "ROMINFO.TXT" and "KATANARM.BIN" in the "katana_sys_v201" folder.
Procedure for the update
Caution

    You must not rename the extracted files.
    Never turn off the KATANA's power while the update is in progress. Otherwise the system program or the KATANA itself may be destroyed.

Please install the extracted system program files into your KATANA according to the following procedure.

    Adjust the [ MASTER ] knob to minimum.
    * Do not connect the KATANA and the computer yet.
    Turn the POWER switch on while holding down both the [ CH1 ] and [ PANEL ] Tone Setting buttons.
    The indicators for the [CH1] ~ [CH4] buttons flash.
    Connect the computer to the KATANA's USB port by a USB cable.
    The indicators for the [CH1] through [CH2]/[CH4] buttons stop flashing and stay lighted, and a "BOSS_KATANA" drive appears on the computer screen.
    Open the BOSS_KATANA icon.
    "Removable Disk (*:)" may appear instead of the BOSS_KATANA icon.
    Copy (drag and drop) all the files included in the "katana_sys_v201" folder into the "BOSS_KATANA" icon.
    * Do not copy the "katana_sys_v201" folder.
    Disconnect the BOSS_KATANA from the computer.
    With Windows 10 / Windows 8.1 / Windows 7
    Right-click on the "BOSS_KATANA" icon in My Computer (or the "Removable Disk (*:)" icon) and execute "Eject."
    With Mac OS
    Drag the "BOSS_KATANA" icon to the Trush icon in the Dock.
    Disconnect the USB cable.
    The [PANEL] button flashes.
    Press [ PANEL ] button to start the update process.
    While the update is in progress, the "EFFECTS" indicators light up.
    When the update has finished, the "EFFECTS" indicators slowly flash simultaneously.
    Turn the KATANA power off.
    This completes the update operation. The new system program runs at the next startup.
    Follow the procedure for verifying the version to verify that the version has been update

https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/katana-100_212/updates_drivers/b9da3bd3-ab7b-451a-9310-7c6fdb6d4b24/
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/katana-head/updates_drivers/b9da3bd3-ab7b-451a-9310-7c6fdb6d4b24/
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/katana-100/updates_drivers/b9da3bd3-ab7b-451a-9310-7c6fdb6d4b24/
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/katana-50/updates_drivers/b9da3bd3-ab7b-451a-9310-7c6fdb6d4b24/
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: avatar on October 04, 2017, 06:56:45 PM
Haven't visited this forum in months! anyway, I'm glad there is a Katana amp thread here. I got the Katana 100 1x12 a few months back, and updated to the latest firmware kagabi. I love this amp, it doesn't pretend to sound like other amps, it just sounds good. Btw, have you guys tried cranking the master volume first then setting the levels on the channel volume? The amp responds differently...better imho.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on October 05, 2017, 08:01:11 AM
Yeah. I run the master high. The amp just gets more cab resonance. With the new firmware, you can tighten this behavior up.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on October 16, 2017, 07:48:26 PM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on November 02, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
Yeah. I run the master high. The amp just gets more cab resonance. With the new firmware, you can tighten this behavior up.

KATANA System Program (Ver.2.02)
Use BOSS TONE STUDIO for KATANA Version 2 as a set with KATANA series version 2. How to tell the version
Please check the version of the system working on your KATANA before downloading the archive file.

    Turn the POWER switch on while holding down the [ TAP ] button.

    If the indicators light up as described below, the system is at the latest version.
    For KATANA-100, KATANA-100/212, or KATANA-HEAD
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "0.5W," the indicator for "DELAY/FX" lights up.
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "100W," the indicator for "DELAY/FX" lights up.

    For KATANA-50
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "0.5W," the indicator for "DELAY/FX" lights up.
        When the [ POWER CONTROL ] switch is adjusted to "50W," the indicator for "DELAY/FX" lights up.
    If the indicators light up in a different way than just described, perform an update.
    When you have finished verifying the version, turn off the power.

* Don't perform the update if the product is already up-to-date.
 

Update history
[ Ver.2.02 ] NOV 2017
Bug Fixes
The following bugs were fixed.

    When TONE SETTING is set to "PANEL," after using the GA-FC (foot controller) to set respective effects to "OFF" and then again selecting "PANEL," the respective effects return to "ON."
    Selecting a TONE SETTING for which EQ is set to "OFF" yields sound for which EQ is set to "ON."
    When a MIDI Program Change message and Control Change message are received simultaneously, the Control Change message is not applied.
    When the unit is updated to version 2.01, all TONE SETTING Program Change numbers are set to "1." (This occurs when updating from version 1 to version 2.01.)
    * Use BOSS TONE STUDIO for KATANA Version 2 to set the Program Change number for each TONE SETTING.
    When the unit is updated to version 2.01, the SEND/RETURN values for BANK A and "PANEL" are set to "OFF." (This occurs when updating from version 1 to version 2.01.)
    * Use BOSS TONE STUDIO for KATANA Version 2 to set SEND/RETURN to "ON."


[ Ver.2.01 ] OCT 2017
Additional Functions
Please refer to the "KATANA Owner's Manual" for detailed information in the [ Owner's Manuals ].
To make settings for added functions, use BOSS TONE STUDIO for KATANA Version 2.

    A function to switch between BANK A/B has been added to TONE SETTING.
    Please refer to the "KATANA Series Version 2 Supplementary Manual" for detailed information in the [ Owner's Manuals ].
    "LINE OUT AIR FEEL" and "CABINET RESONANCE" were added.
    "PHASE 90E" and "FLANGER 117E" were added to TYPE for MOD/FX.
    "SDE-3000" was added to DELAY TYPE.
    DELAY2, EQ (PATCH EQ), and GLOBAL EQ effect modules were added.
    SEND/RETURN is now settable for each individual TONE SETTING value.
    Setting the PC and CC numbers received by MIDI is now possible.

https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/katana-100_212/updates_drivers/4b233e0e-e986-494f-9e1f-11ee766679b4/
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on November 06, 2017, 12:07:19 AM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: jonathan_dead on November 06, 2017, 06:33:55 AM
magkano na kaya updated price ng combo and ung head?d
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Al_Librero on November 06, 2017, 10:20:48 PM
I got the 100W 1x12 version last month. I haven't powered up my AC30 since then.

The only way I will be happier with an amp's sound is by buying a tube amp that's several times times more expensive off the retail shelf. And even then, it wouldn't beat the convenience and all around utility of the Katana.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: changedmynametojimi on November 09, 2017, 03:35:15 PM
how much is the 100W head?
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on November 09, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
how much is the 100W head?

23950 PHP
http://www.roland.com.ph/products/amplifiers/details.php?id=2352

19305 PHP
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/boss-katana-ktn-head-100w-guitar-amplifier-head


Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: vantonilin on November 09, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
The Head is sold at 23,950 I think. With 10% discount it'll go down to 21,555.

They offer 6 months to pay pa... bale 3592.5 pero month.  :-D

May libre pa e. guitar ata pag Citibank ang gagamitin. hehehe
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on November 09, 2017, 11:40:29 PM
The Head is sold at 23,950 I think. With 10% discount it'll go down to 21,555.

They offer 6 months to pay pa... bale 3592.5 pero month.  :-D

May libre pa e. guitar ata pag Citibank ang gagamitin. hehehe

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on November 30, 2017, 07:02:22 PM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 01, 2017, 07:04:31 AM
Sorry guys but I spent some time with the Katana 150 watt amp plugged into a Katana 4x12 and it was MEH.

In japan, I was testing various USA JPs and Dean USA guitars thru it and I just had to switch to a Marshall tube amp because it just sounded plain to me.  Maybe if you were coming from solid state stuff and effects; it would sound more than decent but ITS A DO NOT BUY for me.

There is so much hype about modeling amps and solid state ones that try to emulate tube amps that the guitar community has forgotten that boutique tube amps are getting better and better every year...
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on December 01, 2017, 08:53:17 AM
Sorry guys but I spent some time with the Katana 150 watt amp plugged into a Katana 4x12 and it was MEH.


There is no Katana 150 head and 4x12.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 01, 2017, 09:23:02 AM
There is no Katana 150 head and 4x12.

+1

what he said  :)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 01, 2017, 09:32:53 AM


Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 01, 2017, 02:26:29 PM
My bad... I apologize.  I tested a WAZA craft 150 watt head into a WAZA craft 4x12.

Surely the WAZA craft is much much better than Katana.  Right? 
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 01, 2017, 02:39:17 PM
My bad... I apologize.  I tested a WAZA craft 150 watt head into a WAZA craft 4x12.

Surely the WAZA craft is much much better than Katana.  Right?

based on my experience of course i will say that Boss Katana is better than Waza and far better than other competitors, its uses new Tube Logic Technology, did you tried any Boss Katana Amps?
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 01, 2017, 04:22:32 PM
based on my experience of course i will say that Boss Katana is better than Waza and far better than other competitors, its uses new Tube Logic Technology, did you tried any Boss Katana Amps?

Well I can try one but obviously will you guys accept it If I say its crap?  By the way, I say the Roland Blues Cube Series is fairly decent but still not yet there.  But the Katana being cheaper and claimed to be 'WAZA DNA" derived is something I am skeptical about.

Besides as you guys pointed out, the Katana series NOT having a 150 watt head and 4x12 cabinets, already reeks of inferiority.  Lets face it, WAZA is the flagship line of Boss and you are asking me to give a better rating to an inferior line of Boss.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 01, 2017, 05:25:59 PM
Well I can try one but obviously will you guys accept it If I say its crap?  By the way, I say the Roland Blues Cube Series is fairly decent but still not yet there.  But the Katana being cheaper and claimed to be 'WAZA DNA" derived is something I am skeptical about.

Besides as you guys pointed out, the Katana series NOT having a 150 watt head and 4x12 cabinets, already reeks of inferiority.  Lets face it, WAZA is the flagship line of Boss and you are asking me to give a better rating to an inferior line of Boss.

Sometimes products that are not flagship have chances of being successful. Its how the technology works. Did you heard about the sneaky amps of the Katana?, Sometimes you can discover things and tweaks that are not in the Manual literally.Katana hit success and the price range hard to beat.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 01, 2017, 05:29:54 PM
Well I can try one but obviously will you guys accept it If I say its crap.

Dont worry about it, What works for you is whats important, but for me Katana is the best amp for the price yet. NAMM 2018 is coming.  :)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 01, 2017, 08:24:28 PM
Sometimes products that are not flagship have chances of being successful. Its how the technology works. Did you heard about the sneaky amps of the Katana?, Sometimes you can discover things and tweaks that are not in the Manual literally.Katana hit success and the price range hard to beat.

Can you name me a solid state GUITAR AMP that was NOT flagship and more successful than the flagship solid state Guitar Amp of the manufacturer?

I would rather spend time tweaking my amps (what I mean by tweaking is trying different cabs, effects combinations and cables AND not just settings) than tweaking something that will be replaced easily in the next 2-3 years.  But really, whats in a price range?  I have gone that route.  Later on, you learn that there is a MINIMUM threshold or shall we say a minimum price range to get a great sound.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 01, 2017, 09:34:05 PM
Can you name me a solid state GUITAR AMP that was NOT flagship and more successful than the flagship solid state Guitar Amp of the manufacturer?

I would rather spend time tweaking my amps (what I mean by tweaking is trying different cabs, effects combinations and cables AND not just settings) than tweaking something that will be replaced easily in the next 2-3 years.  But really, whats in a price range?  I have gone that route.  Later on, you learn that there is a MINIMUM threshold or shall we say a minimum price range to get a great sound.

like i said what important is what works for you  , fortunately it works for us lovin the Boss Katana  :)
you can see almost all my gear threads here are affordable ones, some of them became expensive because of the the Philippine Culture and Economy and whats happening here in our country, its like Domino effect
i wonder why there are no Guitar Factories here of big brands, thats why im always saying about the price range
ps: im inclined and prefer guitar stuff and gear thats not that pricey ,not very expensive  but sounds good to my ears and top notch   :-D
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 01, 2017, 11:32:04 PM
like i said what important is what works for you  , fortunately it works for us lovin the Boss Katana  :)
you can see almost all my gear threads here are affordable ones, some of them became expensive because of the the Philippine Culture and Economy and whats happening here in our country, its like Domino effect
i wonder why there are no Guitar Factories here of big brands, thats why im always saying about the price range
ps: im inclined and prefer guitar stuff and gear thats not that pricey ,not very expensive  but sounds good to my ears and top notch   :-D

As I said before: You get what you pay for ... the more so for guitar gear
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on December 02, 2017, 07:04:11 AM
Firemodel is correct. Waza is the one that is supposed to be better. Waza IS the flagship amp. But it didn't take off because it was so damn expensive and it had sucky FRGR speakers in its cab. Most Waza players find that it works better if you use better cabs.

Katana is better in that respect since it is so cheap. $300 for the head and you also get a 5inch speaker for practice. You get 5 amp models + the brown channel that came from the Waza amp. Compare it to its competition of modeling amps from Line 6, Blackstar and Marshall, and you get a clear winner. It sounds warmer and the resonance dsp in its poweramp is more natural.

But of course, like I said from my review from the last page, it still won't be better than a great tube amp (I've tried it against a Mesa JP2C and a 5150), but at its price range it is the best choice you can buy. It is more than decent and it cuts through live.

 
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on December 02, 2017, 07:10:55 AM
Can you name me a solid state GUITAR AMP that was NOT flagship and more successful than the flagship solid state Guitar Amp of the manufacturer?



Line 6 Spider was more successful than the flagship Vetta amps. Vetta died after 2 generations. You have Spider Mark Fives now.
Randall RGS were more successful than the flagship VMAX and Warheads.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 02, 2017, 07:27:02 AM

Line 6 Spider was more successful than the flagship Vetta amps. Vetta died after 2 generations. You have Spider Mark Fives now.
Randall RGS were more successful than the flagship VMAX and Warheads.

Point taken and I stand corrected.  But I have a Line 6 Spider combo which I don't use. LOL.  Actually its a spider jam that I only use for backing tracks.

Lousy guitar amp in my opinion but great for accompanyment.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on December 02, 2017, 07:41:21 AM
Point taken and I stand corrected.  But I have a Line 6 Spider combo which I don't use. LOL.  Actually its a spider jam that I only use for backing tracks.

Lousy guitar amp in my opinion but great for accompanyment.

Yeah. It's just you know, beginner's gear. It had a great price point and lots of features. It's great if you are learning songs and jamming in a small room. That is why it was a success.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 02, 2017, 08:26:23 AM
like  i said what works for you is what important whatever the price and brand, im still inclined and stand to affordable products that generally sound good to the ears of many  :)

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 02, 2017, 08:27:37 AM

Line 6 Spider was more successful than the flagship Vetta amps. Vetta died after 2 generations. You have Spider Mark Fives now.
Randall RGS were more successful than the flagship VMAX and Warheads.

+1

what he said  :)
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 02, 2017, 08:31:40 AM
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 02, 2017, 08:40:12 AM
+1

what he said  :)

More success aside from sales, I meant was sounding better.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 02, 2017, 08:56:27 AM

Again, do you want me to make a review?  Will you accept the review even if its something you don't wanna hear?  Or will you give me again that price range argument?

Kasi kung price range lang, my Mesa Studio Caliber 22 combo from the late 80s which is still alive & Kicking is in a price range that will beat the price range of the Katana.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on December 02, 2017, 12:32:36 PM
Not in the same class. The caliber 22 cant record straight from daw, doesnt have effects, doesnt have wattage control, doesnt have cab sims. It is heavy and will require tube replacement.

It sure "can" sound better but cant do even 3/4s of what the Katana can do.

And no, it is not in the same price range. Right now calibers go for 499 used all the time. They were 700 to 850 brand new. Account for inflation. Katana combos can be had for 300 brand new.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 02, 2017, 10:40:21 PM
Not in the same class. The caliber 22 cant record straight from daw, doesnt have effects, doesnt have wattage control, doesnt have cab sims. It is heavy and will require tube replacement.

It sure "can" sound better but cant do even 3/4s of what the Katana can do.

And no, it is not in the same price range. Right now calibers go for 499 used all the time. They were 700 to 850 brand new. Account for inflation. Katana combos can be had for 300 brand new.

As per quote of iccurtepnhoj, "gear thats not that pricey ,not very expensive  but sounds good to my ears and top notch " -- that for me is my Studio Caliber 22-- is in the SAME class as defined by iccurtepnhoj.  It is not light which means it more solidly made than a katana and uses tubes that can be easily swapped with other EL84s and 6BQ5 to vary the tone and the drive.

I bought it for around US$500 new in 87 or 88 which makes it US$250 now if I choose to sell it.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: treblinkalovescene on December 02, 2017, 11:31:46 PM
Alex, I don't think it would be fair to compare the Mesa to the Katana. The Katana is in a class that didn't exist back in the 80s (to the best I know). The most would be to file them under the sub-$1000 price point, but even then that's a nebulous category.

If sound alone, it might not chalk up to a good tube amp for understandable reasons. If you base it on feature set, you're going to have to compare it to the Line 6 Spider, the Blackstar ID60, and the Fender Mustang Amp. It may be better than those if you're doing apples to apples.

Anyway, I heard a Katana once at a show and while it sounded good for what it was, my attention was squarely on the Orange Dual Terror on the other side of the room as it just sounded better to my ears. Modeling amps have gotten better sounding, but right now I'd still prefer to go with a no-nonsense SS amp like the Orange CR120 if we're talking about amps on a budget.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 02, 2017, 11:54:35 PM
Alex, I don't think it would be fair to compare the Mesa to the Katana. The Katana is in a class that didn't exist back in the 80s (to the best I know). The most would be to file them under the sub-$1000 price point, but even then that's a nebulous category.

If sound alone, it might not chalk up to a good tube amp for understandable reasons. If you base it on feature set, you're going to have to compare it to the Line 6 Spider, the Blackstar ID60, and the Fender Mustang Amp. It may be better than those if you're doing apples to apples.

Anyway, I heard a Katana once at a show and while it sounded good for what it was, my attention was squarely on the Orange Dual Terror on the other side of the room as it just sounded better to my ears. Modeling amps have gotten better sounding, but right now I'd still prefer to go with a no-nonsense SS amp like the Orange CR120 if we're talking about amps on a budget.

+1

thats why i said over and over again , what suits you and what works for your ears :)

btw someones gotta give  :lol:
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 02, 2017, 11:56:42 PM
Alex, I don't think it would be fair to compare the Mesa to the Katana.

+1

what he said

ps: I also like this  :)

(https://scontent.fmnl13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1910514_10153417298682685_629392899003389304_n.jpg?oh=7513c677bb2a6872c8bd437f2ce8ce4a&oe=5ACBF081)

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 03, 2017, 05:36:58 AM
+1

thats why i said over and over again , what suits you and what works for your ears :)

btw someones gotta give  :lol:

Well obviously, I have gotta give because its a fun thread.  And I can surely predict, when the flavor of the month is over, most on this thread will proceed to the next best thing when it comes out.  For me, Boss and Roland are not known for their amps.  They are not known for being robust or even sounding exemplary.

I dislike the roland jazz chorus because there are other great sounding CLEAN tube amps specially from boutique manufacturers and combining them with an old CE1 floats my boat.  The price point is scarier because it screams china made crap that will give up soon.

As I use to say before, some ears are better than others....
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 03, 2017, 05:41:35 AM
+1

what he said

ps: I also like this  :)

(https://scontent.fmnl13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1910514_10153417298682685_629392899003389304_n.jpg?oh=7513c677bb2a6872c8bd437f2ce8ce4a&oe=5ACBF081)

I also want to try this JP signature AND compare it with a REAL Mark 2C+.  That's how I treat the hype.  I have heard one REAL Mark 2C+ and it was really loud.  But I found it stiff.  I attributed that to the KOA cabinet of which only two were made by Mesa Boogie.  It was heavy because of the solid KOA cabinet.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: firemodel55 on December 04, 2017, 07:57:25 AM
+1

thats why i said over and over again , what suits you and what works for your ears :)

btw someones gotta give  :lol:

I likey!!! Twice.

Yup, got to try the 100 watt 1x12 model  And I like it.

Its even better than Blue Cube Artist which is twice the price.

Mayroon siyang lambot na wala ang mga ibang amps.  Usually you need to open up a tube amp at loud volumes to get that lambot.

Effects are also OK.  Parang you don't need other effects pedals.

Cons: Does not have the 'big' sound of a tube amp.  It might be tricky matching the head.  Better to go for both combos.  Might not match up with boutique tube amps in terms of volume.  There is still a certain compression -- sterility -- that great tube amps do not have.

Unknowns: Since its the first amp by boss -- first serious endeavor at least; I cannot say about its reliability and endurance. 

Conclusion: Go for it if you need a practice amp or beginning guitar.  Is it something to stick to?  Nope.  Its good but does not have that WOW factor.

P.S. Unit is Made in Malaysia and NOT China.  I might prefer Taiwan over Malaysia but either way, construction looks MEH.   I mean its cheap (better value for money) relative to some of the Chinese crap that looks like crap.  But not on the level of USA made.
Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: Bolt Thrower on December 04, 2017, 09:31:49 AM
Yep. It won't get that big tube compression an high volume. I tried it wide open Master at 10 and it sounds a bit bigger than the other SS amps at that master level. May ginawa yatang ok sa DSP ang Boss sa power amp para maging loose yung feeling ng amp as you go higher volume on the master knob. I found out that as you go up the master you have to go down on the gain like a real world amp.

Otherwise, at full volume the SS clipping is there. A bigger power amp headroom should afford it more ooomph.

It gets the job done better compared to its competition. The new Line 6 spider Vs don't have that warm bounce and crunch that the Katana has.

Title: Re: Boss Katana Amplifier
Post by: iccurtepnhoj on December 11, 2017, 11:09:57 AM