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Title: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 24, 2018, 05:50:55 PM
Hello mga ka-PM! Starting 2018 with learning the ways of home recording. Well, sama mo na dn ung starting to play guitar again aftr a long hiatus.

Hindi ung tipong full band demo kind of recording. Maybe in the fututre? Who knows, pero for now, probably some overdubs or playthrough sa backing track. Although i did mga 7yrs ago pero it was using a GT-10, behringer audio interface and garage band. Im tryin this time a DAW recording, zero knowledge.

So to start, What do you use as audio interface? Read a lot about focusrite scarlett and mukhang ok. Pero inclined to listen to inputs as well.

:)


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 11:46:57 AM
So, after ilang bwan pag iipon, finally got an interface a few nights ago.

My thinking was, mag behringer nalng ako. Specifically the Uphoria UMC204 HD. Really cheap, and zero skills naman ako using DAW anyway so magandang pang practice? Buti nalang hindi tumatanggap ng card un store so kelangan ko mag withdraw.

Then bigla nagbago isip ko and decided to get the focusrite. Why? Mas marami ksi gumagamit, not jumping the band wagon ika nga, pero in case na mangailangan ako ng support, mas malaki chances ko na meron friendly internet peep na sasagot sa mga tanong ko. Less frustration, sana...

How about u guys, ano gmit nyo?

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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on January 31, 2018, 12:02:49 PM
question.

is your guitar plugged into your amp then to your interface?
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 12:21:31 PM
question.

is your guitar plugged into your amp then to your interface?

Bali ganito,

Guitar>amp modeller (XLR out)>interface>USB to laptop.

Interface (TRS out)>Monitor speaker

Hope i made sense?
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: robinonibor on January 31, 2018, 12:24:19 PM
tried bunch of interface..
nung gumamit ako ng 2i4 feeling ko mas swak talaga sya mic in setup..
so far Edirol UA-25 ang pinaka nagustuhan kong Guitar > Interface > Pc setup

sa 2i4 over kill I think..
not unless gagamit ka tlga ng midi controllers or other midi devices, mics, etc..
sold my 2i4 for that reason.
maganda dn talaga ang Plugin suite na kasama nyan

good luck brader! sana sa 2019 ako nman mag simula ulit..
focus muna sa baby ngayon  :-D
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on January 31, 2018, 12:26:46 PM
Bali ganito,

Guitar>amp modeller (XLR out)>interface>USB to laptop.

Interface (TRS out)>Monitor speaker

Hope i made sense?

napansin ko kasi nka pad yung interface. either hot yung signal or stereo input.

line6 user here pero 2i2 gamit ko pag mic. iba kasi pre amp ng focusrite.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 12:33:18 PM
tried bunch of interface..
nung gumamit ako ng 2i4 feeling ko mas swak talaga sya mic in setup..
so far Edirol UA-25 ang pinaka nagustuhan kong Guitar > Interface > Pc setup

sa 2i4 over kill I think..
not unless gagamit ka tlga ng midi controllers or other midi devices, mics, etc..
sold my 2i4 for that reason.
maganda dn talaga ang Plugin suite na kasama nyan

good luck brader! sana sa 2019 ako nman mag simula ulit..
focus muna sa baby ngayon  :-D

Ohhhh first, goodluck sa baby! Mas mahalaga yan over anything else :)

Ung modeler na gamit ko kasi is capable for line outputs so utilizing its potential na dn thru XLR in sa interface.

Thanks for chiming in! Hope to see your inputs soon!


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 12:40:10 PM
napansin ko kasi nka pad yung interface. either hot yung signal or stereo input.

line6 user here pero 2i2 gamit ko pag mic. iba kasi pre amp ng focusrite.

Oohhh the pad. Yep! Fractal Audio AX8 gamit ko with max output kaya needed the pad turned on para hindi mag clip. Tama ba? Clipping ako without the pad.

Still learning gain staging and leveling ng AX8. So far, ive tried recording random stuffs, meh, needs more more more time doing this recording thing hehehe.

Ano gamit mo DAW?


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on January 31, 2018, 12:45:40 PM
Oohhh the pad. Yep! Fractal Audio AX8 gamit ko with max output kaya needed the pad turned on para hindi mag clip. Tama ba? Clipping ako without the pad.

Still learning gain staging and leveling ng AX8. So far, ive tried recording random stuffs, meh, needs more more more time doing this recording thing hehehe.

Ano gamit mo DAW?


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dont put the ax8 output to the max level para may enough room ka pa sa recording.
yung yung maganda sa scarlett kasi may clip indicators that will guide the user regarding the head room and how they should adjust.

naka sonar x3 ako and reaper :)
Title: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 01:19:17 PM
Ohhh! Reaper dn sna ggamitin ko. Kso since ang meron ako is mac (mb air nga lang) i decided mag logic pro nalang ako.

Hmmm about the output ng ax8 naman, the pros advices output ng ax8 at max for unity gain. When properly done, dapat ang input signal sa DAW is nasa -12db, which should provide enough headroom?

Gain staging and leveling the output ng ax8 is another topic, kailngan ko aralin pa to sadly.

Question:
Let's say wala tau line6, ax8 or anything for the sake of discussion. Puede nman dry input tpos effects nalang sa DAW dba? Ano ba dpat iconsider, like sample rate, or kng ano man when recording like setting up ng DAW?
 


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on January 31, 2018, 02:58:55 PM
Ohhh! Reaper dn sna ggamitin ko. Kso since ang meron ako is mac (mb air nga lang) i decided mag logic pro nalang ako.

Hmmm about the output ng ax8 naman, the pros advices output ng ax8 at max for unity gain. When properly done, dapat ang input signal sa DAW is nasa -12db, which should provide enough headroom?

Gain staging and leveling the output ng ax8 is another topic, kailngan ko aralin pa to sadly.

Question:
Let's say wala tau line6, ax8 or anything for the sake of discussion. Puede nman dry input tpos effects nalang sa DAW dba? Ano ba dpat iconsider, like sample rate, or kng ano man when recording like setting up ng DAW?
 


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- 9 to -12db or as long as di nag cclip.

if ever walang modeler. we can use the effects sa daw very very limited. pero oks na ako sa fab filter at waves at sa le pou. sample rate basta 44.1 no more no less.

medjo OT:
kamusta naman mga patches ng ax8? or how you dial the tones?
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 03:18:04 PM
Thanks! Sige, i'll go for it. Bahala na si batman ika nga. i'll try to record something and post it for discussion.

Re: ax8
Stock patches para saken is ayos na ayos, some tweak here and there for personal preference. Sounded great, at least for me.

Dialing tones naman, dun medyo naging madugo. Sabi nga ng marami, hindi user friendly ang on board interface ng ax8. Tweak cya by knobs and scrolling sa mala gameboy na screen. Mas madali buhay mo kung meron ka laptop para gamitin ung software to edit patches. E zero gear ako nun nagbalik guitar ako so  wala dn ako laptop. It was a learning curve, malaking curve!

Pero once u get the hang of it, maeenjoy mo na. I belive most modelers can sound almost alike depende sa pag tweak. Its just a matter of mastering your gear. E utol ko nga gamit old RP-500 ko nappa wow pa dn ako hehehe.


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on January 31, 2018, 03:21:51 PM
Thanks! Sige, i'll go for it. Bahala na si batman ika nga. i'll try to record something and post it for discussion.

Re: ax8
Stock patches para saken is ayos na ayos, some tweak here and there for personal preference. Sounded great, at least for me.

Dialing tones naman, dun medyo naging madugo. Sabi nga ng marami, hindi user friendly ang on board interface ng ax8. Tweak cya by knobs and scrolling sa mala gameboy na screen. Mas madali buhay mo kung meron ka laptop para gamitin ung software to edit patches. E zero gear ako nun nagbalik guitar ako so  wala dn ako laptop. It was a learning curve, malaking curve!

Pero once u get the hang of it, maeenjoy mo na. I belive most modelers can sound almost alike depende sa pag tweak. Its just a matter of mastering your gear. E utol ko nga gamit old RP-500 ko nappa wow pa dn ako hehehe.


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haha, yung mga show band/variety band sa probinsya namen naka rp6 at 606 pa rin pero hanep yung tugtugan. Minsan nag jam ako gamit laptop lang, na amaze e.
iba nga naman ang technology.

goodluck sa recording chief, post ka ng demos then pag usapan naten!
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 03:45:11 PM
haha, yung mga show band/variety band sa probinsya namen naka rp6 at 606 pa rin pero hanep yung tugtugan. Minsan nag jam ako gamit laptop lang, na amaze e.
iba nga naman ang technology.

goodluck sa recording chief, post ka ng demos then pag usapan naten!

Thanks! Goodluck lang talaga saken hahaha! Will post.


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 09:44:36 PM
ok. Pano mag post ng video?  :? :-( :eek:
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: Boxedking on January 31, 2018, 09:53:26 PM
Glad to see someone starting out with home recording. It will only mean for you more playing and less gas for gear. Anyways, I'm a Focusrite 2i2 user. I used to mic my amp when recording but since I got married and had a kid, lumipat ako sa paggamit ng LePou stuff. So far so good for me naman. By the way, my recorded stuff right down there on my sig.

Goodluck!
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 10:09:10 PM
Glad to see someone starting out with home recording. It will only mean for you more playing and less gas for gear. Anyways, I'm a Focusrite 2i2 user. I used to mic my amp when recording but since I got married and had a kid, lumipat ako sa paggamit ng LePou stuff. So far so good for me naman. By the way, my recorded stuff right down there on my sig.

Goodluck!

Ohh yup pala ung lepou! interesting!

NOt much of a gear gassing guy and mas worried ako sa ability ko to play so meron long ako is guitar, effects, computer and now this 2i4 interface. More practice and playing time and talagang mas kailangan ko  :cry:

btw, hanep ung song 19!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: CeL1916 on January 31, 2018, 11:21:55 PM
Glad to see someone starting out with home recording. It will only mean for you more playing and less gas for gear. Anyways, I'm a Focusrite 2i2 user. I used to mic my amp when recording but since I got married and had a kid, lumipat ako sa paggamit ng LePou stuff. So far so good for me naman. By the way, my recorded stuff right down there on my sig.

Goodluck!

2i2 din gamit ko. Pero di ko padin magaya yung "wall of dirt guitar chug chug awesomeness" ng mga record mo. Hahah :-P
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 11:27:40 PM
2i2 din gamit ko. Pero di ko padin magaya yung "wall of dirt guitar chug chug awesomeness" ng mga record mo. Hahah :-P

Napapa head bang nga ako dito.  :mrgreen:

Hopefully si @boxedking mag bigay ng pointers :D tindi sir!
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: Boxedking on January 31, 2018, 11:38:09 PM
Well, I just dial in my preferred settings sa amp sims (I use the Legion on the left and the Lecto on the right), load cab impulse (gamit ko yun marshall cab ni Fearcomplexmusic from YouTube), record 2 different tracks (one for left and one for the right channel) and try to record as tight as possible.

I use the preset guitar EQ of Reaper. Meron Marshall-esque and Fender-ish type of EQ presets. Then another usual EQ to clean up the unwanted bottom and high sizzles.

Try mo i-search si Frog Leap Studios sa YouTube. He has a lot of different approach in home recording.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 11:47:45 PM
Leap Frog Studios, subscribed.

Yung tracking 2 guitars L/R channel i hear a lot. Will definitely try pag natuto na.

Bigat ng mga recording ideas mo, nakaka buhay ng dugo mag aral mag record!
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: Boxedking on January 31, 2018, 11:54:17 PM
Basta pag may nagawa ka na, share mo lang dito.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on January 31, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
Will do. Salamat sa inputs!
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: nicoyow on February 01, 2018, 12:22:54 AM
may video si boxedking na sumasayaw habang nag rerecord. gusto nyo din makita?  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: Stoop on February 01, 2018, 02:12:59 AM
Namimiss ko na ulit magrecord  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Focus muna sa mga bata kaya madalas acoustic guitar fiddler lang ako.

Scarlett 2i4 user here, I tried using amp sims but didn't get to work on it that much.
Reaper for DAW kasi it just works and for the price walang tatalo
Amp to interface ang binagsakan ko. Hahaha!

Amp > Load Box > CAB IR Loader > 2i4
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: officebiker on February 01, 2018, 03:42:08 AM
Tagal ko na rin pangarap nito, pero gusto ko may drum software na rin, Kaya na ba guys ng i3 na processor? pwede ba focusrite rekta yung guitar? dami ko pa hindi alam
patulong, pakisagot or pahingi ng links.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: Boxedking on February 01, 2018, 04:05:37 AM
Tagal ko na rin pangarap nito, pero gusto ko may drum software na rin, Kaya na ba guys ng i3 na processor? pwede ba focusrite rekta yung guitar? dami ko pa hindi alam
patulong, pakisagot or pahingi ng links.
Drum software:
Pwede ka mamili between Addictive Drums, EZ Drummer, o Steven Slate.

i3 will suffice. I used to record on an ancient Pentium 4 with 2gb or 4gb RAM. May times na gumagapang but still got the job done. Hehe!
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on February 01, 2018, 05:03:41 AM
Tagal ko na rin pangarap nito, pero gusto ko may drum software na rin, Kaya na ba guys ng i3 na processor? pwede ba focusrite rekta yung guitar? dami ko pa hindi alam
patulong, pakisagot or pahingi ng links.

i3 with 6gb ram running superior drummer 2 controlled by alesis dm7x.

Kayang kaya.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: techbp on February 01, 2018, 05:32:03 AM
@Satch
Hi nice thread!

I'm a Presonus Fire Studio Project user... what can I say? Preamp is superb. My DAW is Presonus Studio One 3, maganda kase if Presonus din audio interface mo may feature siya para patayin yung latency sa monitoring pag recording.

Dati naka mic yung cab (using SM57) pag recording ng guitars pero ngayon I'm using Avid Eleven Rack na, ganda ng tunog... Pero minsan mic parin ako ng cab, may ibang buga kase pag analog yung source.

Ano gamit mo pang mic? (headphones, studio monitor)
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: techbp on February 01, 2018, 05:35:03 AM
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@Satch
Hi nice thread!

I'm a Presonus Fire Studio Project user... what can I say? Preamp is superb. My DAW is Presonus Studio One 3, maganda kase if Presonus din audio interface mo may feature siya para patayin yung latency sa monitoring pag recording.

Dati naka mic yung cab (using SM57) pag recording ng guitars pero ngayon I'm using Avid Eleven Rack na, ganda ng tunog... Pero minsan mic parin ako ng cab, may ibang buga kase pag analog yung source.

Ano gamit mo pang mix? (headphones, studio monitor)
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: officebiker on February 01, 2018, 07:14:27 AM
Drum software:
Pwede ka mamili between Addictive Drums, EZ Drummer, o Steven Slate.

i3 will suffice. I used to record on an ancient Pentium 4 with 2gb or 4gb RAM. May times na gumagapang but still got the job done. Hehe!

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i3 with 6gb ram running superior drummer 2 controlled by alesis dm7x.

Kayang kaya.

wow, ok so eto meron ako ngayon > guitars, line6 m9 - (not sure if it can be used in the chain) tsaka yung laptop haha
So ang naiisip kong kailangan
1. interface, which is focusrite at m audio lang yata ang familiar ako, sa JB meron starting yata is 9k.
2. mic pang vocals, no idea on this at cables of course
3. yung software mismo , DAW ba tawag dun? no idea rin dito pero nakakapanood ako sa rec studio dati cubase gamit nya, tsaka yung drum software. errr nakakahiya pero may mga makukuha ba ko nito hindi super mahal or download lang.

ano pa ba? Sorry kay satch na hi-jack ko thread nya hihi
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on February 01, 2018, 07:26:23 AM
wow, ok so eto meron ako ngayon > guitars, line6 m9 - (not sure if it can be used in the chain) tsaka yung laptop haha
So ang naiisip kong kailangan
1. interface, which is focusrite at m audio lang yata ang familiar ako, sa JB meron starting yata is 9k. - stick to focusrite
2. mic pang vocals, no idea on this at cables of course - get the sm58 and buy xlr cables
3. yung software mismo , DAW ba tawag dun? no idea rin dito pero nakakapanood ako sa rec studio dati cubase gamit nya, tsaka yung drum software. errr nakakahiya pero may mga makukuha ba ko nito hindi super mahal or download lang. - free pa ata and ez drummer
super mahal na ng iba. pero you can also try get good drums at $100

ano pa ba? Sorry kay satch na hi-jack ko thread nya hihi

you can also check the setting up your pc for recording thread.

PS: sorry for hijacking the post satch.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: CeL1916 on February 01, 2018, 10:14:02 AM
wow, ok so eto meron ako ngayon > guitars, line6 m9 - (not sure if it can be used in the chain) tsaka yung laptop haha
So ang naiisip kong kailangan
1. interface, which is focusrite at m audio lang yata ang familiar ako, sa JB meron starting yata is 9k.
2. mic pang vocals, no idea on this at cables of course
3. yung software mismo , DAW ba tawag dun? no idea rin dito pero nakakapanood ako sa rec studio dati cubase gamit nya, tsaka yung drum software. errr nakakahiya pero may mga makukuha ba ko nito hindi super mahal or download lang.

ano pa ba? Sorry kay satch na hi-jack ko thread nya hihi

Get the focusrite 2i2 studio bundle. Bang for the buck na yun to get you going.

Or get the focusrite 2i2 interface lang,  plus audio technica at2020 (xlr) + xlr cable.

Or focusrite 2i2 + shure sm57 + xlr cable.


Download reaper as DAW, and download free amp and cab sims.

Pwede ka din bumili ng plugins(vsts) gaya ng guitarig amplitube etc.(yan na lalabas na amp and stomps mo) then superior drummer or addictive drums (for drum programming). medyo mahal to, pero madaming free alternatives naman.

Yan chief rak na yan
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 01, 2018, 11:30:21 AM
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Thanks sir techbp! Hirap disect info sa net sa dami. Where better to learn than experienced peeps ika nga.

:eek di ko pa ata ncconsider mixing side nitong venture na to. I use a presonus eris 8 as my monitor speaker. Eto na dn kasi gamit ko as my main ouput speaker sa modeler ko nun wla pa ako laptop and interface. Headphones naman meron ako sony mdr7506.

Pag gising ko knina eto naisip ko, wala pala ako bass guitar. Is this a necessity ba? Kung guitar backing track i know di na kailangan, pero kung kagaya ng kay boxedking, ayun!?



Jake Z and officebiker, no hassle bros, hi jack all u want. Mas maraming inputs, the better diba? Mas marami matututunan. :)


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 01, 2018, 11:40:21 AM
Guys, pano mag upload ng video dito? Or kailangan youtube talaga?

I managed to do a one take record kahapon. Simple plucking with sabit sabit all around. No other tracks than the guitar. Stock preset with no tweak. Meh, bahala na kako. Its a start.

Gusto ko lang masubukan hit ung record button to get the feel of it. No harm naman kung susubukan diba? :)


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on February 01, 2018, 12:48:36 PM
Guys, pano mag upload ng video dito? Or kailangan youtube talaga?

I managed to do a one take record kahapon. Simple plucking with sabit sabit all around. No other tracks than the guitar. Stock preset with no tweak. Meh, bahala na kako. Its a start.

Gusto ko lang masubukan hit ung record button to get the feel of it. No harm naman kung susubukan diba? :)


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youtube talaga (only way) :0

btw, time will come, bibili ka rin ng bass. I started with a strat then an interface then a lapton. Afterwards, bumuli ng bass.
Then the cycle continued. Hanggang makabili ng Bx5, midi keyboard at electric drums.


To add.

you can also try uploading your songs via soundcloud pero FYI pag post mo dito nun marami mag rereply at ngayon wala ka ng babasahin kundi EQ,Compressing and the likes.

Title: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 01, 2018, 12:58:24 PM
youtube talaga (only way) :0

btw, time will come, bibili ka rin ng bass. I started with a strat then an interface then a lapton. Afterwards, bumuli ng bass.
Then the cycle continued. Hanggang makabili ng Bx5, midi keyboard at electric drums.


To add.

you can also try uploading your songs via soundcloud pero FYI pag post mo dito nun marami mag rereply at ngayon wala ka ng babasahin kundi EQ,Compressing and the likes.

Thanks Jake Z! Youtube it is.

Mukhang unavoidable nga ang pagkuha ng bass. Sana may mahiraman for the meantime hehehe

Ang mahal pala ng EZ drummer

Iwas muna siguro ako sa soundcloud hehehe. Dito nalang muna.

Mukhang mahaba habang lakbayin to :D


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 01, 2018, 04:46:09 PM
Heto na mga sir. Pikit mata nalang.

Disclaimer(Palusot): one pass video, stock preset with minimal tweak, no processing sa daw kasi hindi ako marunong. Record lng ng video and audio track.

:eek:

https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM (https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM)


Mean, harsh and constructive comments accepted.


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on February 01, 2018, 06:44:11 PM
Heto na mga sir. Pikit mata nalang.

Disclaimer(Palusot): one pass video, stock preset with minimal tweak, no processing sa daw kasi hindi ako marunong. Record lng ng video and audio track.

:eek:

https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM (https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM)


Mean, harsh and constructive comments accepted.


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Nice guitar chief!
Ok na naman  yung sounds so maganda pagkaka setup in ax8.
Next na yung processing like eq, compressor.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: Boxedking on February 01, 2018, 11:18:07 PM
Heto na mga sir. Pikit mata nalang.

Disclaimer(Palusot): one pass video, stock preset with minimal tweak, no processing sa daw kasi hindi ako marunong. Record lng ng video and audio track.

:eek:

https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM (https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM)


Mean, harsh and constructive comments accepted.


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Para sa akin, so far so good.

Paglaruan mo yung stock effects ng DAW mo then explore from there.

Nga pala, always play along a metronome. Yan ang secret ng tight recording.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: techbp on February 02, 2018, 02:04:22 AM
Laki ng studio monitor mo hehe! Ganda niyan! I have the smaller model, eris 5 :-)
Regarding bass track - your call bro, pero para mas buo yung sound ng mixdown mo, might as well consider it - low end is low end, madalas yun yung frequency na unang naapreciate ng listener
Check out Modo Bass or Trilian (much better) if you have extra budget hehe! All you need is midi controller na lang

Thanks sir techbp! Hirap disect info sa net sa dami. Where better to learn than experienced peeps ika nga.

:eek di ko pa ata ncconsider mixing side nitong venture na to. I use a presonus eris 8 as my monitor speaker. Eto na dn kasi gamit ko as my main ouput speaker sa modeler ko nun wla pa ako laptop and interface. Headphones naman meron ako sony mdr7506.

Pag gising ko knina eto naisip ko, wala pala ako bass guitar. Is this a necessity ba? Kung guitar backing track i know di na kailangan, pero kung kagaya ng kay boxedking, ayun!?



Jake Z and officebiker, no hassle bros, hi jack all u want. Mas maraming inputs, the better diba? Mas marami matututunan. :)


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 02, 2018, 05:49:57 PM
So mero akong time today. 2nd take. Random stuff. Guitar lng kase wla ako bass and drum software. Meron ako ndownload MDrummer Small by Melda Productions, anyone familiar? Di ko pa install, siguro later pg meron ulit time.

Tried tracking 2 guitars then only EQ is added sa logic pro. I focused dialing in tone sa floor pedal ko para hindi ko na kakalikutin virtual effects ng recording software.

Tama ba workflow?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKttF9L8qMY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKttF9L8qMY)





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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 02, 2018, 05:59:40 PM
@boxedking
hirap pala sa metronome sir! Naka ilang take ako bago ko nakuha masabayan un tempo ko :(

@techbp,
Di ko nga alam kung tama ba na eris8 kinuha ko? Dati ksi mackie CR3 gamit ko  nun guitar and iphone effects lng gmit ko. Binenta and nagpalit lng ako ksi hindi ko masyado malakasan sa effects ko un CR3 at bumibigay hehe. Hindi ko rin nman alam aarlin ko mag record pala. Hehehe. Regarding bass, baka manghiram muna or eventually mag iipon khit murang bass.

Sakit sa bangs naman nito. But enjoy!


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: CeL1916 on February 02, 2018, 10:24:09 PM
^

If you are planning to do all the parts by yourself, metronome is the key. Lalo kung programmed ang drums mo, laging on pocket yun tapos ikaw hindi. May kilala ako mas magaling sakin maggitara so pinarecord ko ng guitar parts, gawa ko na yung bass and drums, programmed yung drums, ayun di namin natapos hirap siya haha, sa huli ako nalang din gumawa ng guitar parts.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 03, 2018, 03:16:00 PM
^

If you are planning to do all the parts by yourself, metronome is the key. Lalo kung programmed ang drums mo, laging on pocket yun tapos ikaw hindi. May kilala ako mas magaling sakin maggitara so pinarecord ko ng guitar parts, gawa ko na yung bass and drums, programmed yung drums, ayun di namin natapos hirap siya haha, sa huli ako nalang din gumawa ng guitar parts.

Maraming practice kailangan ko sir para dito talaga. Andame ko pa hindi maintindihan sa mga menus ng recording software e.

Im hoping hindi ko gagawin lahat mag isa. Pero bahala na. Aaralin nalang muna and more practice. And more youtube tips on recording.


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: CeL1916 on February 03, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
Maraming practice kailangan ko sir para dito talaga. Andame ko pa hindi maintindihan sa mga menus ng recording software e.

Im hoping hindi ko gagawin lahat mag isa. Pero bahala na. Aaralin nalang muna and more practice. And more youtube tips on recording.


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Yung iba naman eh tools/buttons/menu eh more on "better workflow" na. Basta alam mo yung basic like"creating track" "arming track" send/return etc.. Ok na start na yun, yung iba matututunan mo along the way. Malalaman mo kelangan mo eh. Sa totoo lang lahat kami dito eh sasabihing  "learning" pa din kami, kasi napakadami talaga dapat matutunan (except for kitc though alam yata nun lahat).



Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: jake z on February 04, 2018, 08:12:56 AM
Yung iba naman eh tools/buttons/menu eh more on "better workflow" na. Basta alam mo yung basic like"creating track" "arming track" send/return etc.. Ok na start na yun, yung iba matututunan mo along the way. Malalaman mo kelangan mo eh. Sa totoo lang lahat kami dito eh sasabihing  "learning" pa din kami, kasi napakadami talaga dapat matutunan (except for kitc though alam yata nun lahat).

what if our daw are still running on analogs. Siguro ang lalaki  ng  mga bahay naten due to the boards.
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: satch on February 04, 2018, 12:40:19 PM
kung maccover mo siguro basics as a start, good to go ka na. The rest can be learned along the way.

To summarize, below is my list that i think helped me get started.

Hardware:
-Guitar
-Guitar cable
-USB audio interface
-Laptop or Desktop

Software:
-Recording Software (Logic Pro, Reaper, Cubase, etc.)

Operation:
-Learn how to add or crate new track in the recording software
-Learn how to arm the track and record .

The rest follows. Playback, mixing, etc. Im sure marami pang subjects meron regarding this topic, i may or may not learn them in time pero as a start, this is what i have learned so far.

Would love to have something like sir boxedking's records, ayos na ayos un! For now puro press record, play and practice muna :)

Salamat sa mga inputs! :)


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Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: walanakamingyelo on April 11, 2018, 09:01:02 PM
Yo, I'm starting to do home recording as well BTW I'm so low on funds at the moment so I do it with a Xenyx502 and Reaper. At the moment, I'm trying to focus on getting the wall of sound. Do you guys have any thoughts on how to achieve this? TIA! :)
Title: Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
Post by: nicoyow on April 12, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
Yo, I'm starting to do home recording as well BTW I'm so low on funds at the moment so I do it with a Xenyx502 and Reaper. At the moment, I'm trying to focus on getting the wall of sound. Do you guys have any thoughts on how to achieve this? TIA! :)
lots and lots of reverb.

When I say reverb, your choices are: reverse, shimmer, parallel, particle, and so on and so forth.
A subtle chorus or phase.
Delay in 16th or 8th division.
delay with slower time and longer feedback
then fuzz

disclaimer: This is my own experiment since I'm playing dream pop/shoegaze music. There are a lot of options you can do to achieve wall of sound kind of music.