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LouieAzcona

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Ano po ba ang appropriate na tawag sa mga to...?
« on: January 06, 2009, 07:45:51 AM »
1. kapag nirecord mo ang banda sa live performance nila, on stage = LIVE RECORDING

tama po ba?

2. Ano naman po ang tawag sa normal na recording?. normal as in, mauna drummer, tpos bassist tapos guitars, tapos voc... sa studio?

3. Ano naman ang tawag sa recording sa studio na sabay sabay sila lahat tumutugtog...

kasi... lahat yan multitrack naman... so hindi mo pwedeng tawaging multitrack ang isa...

alam ko ung process, pero hindi ko alam ang tawag sa ginagawa ko. haha! sorry.
nalilito po ako eh! haha. thanks!

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Re: Ano po ba ang appropriate na tawag sa mga to...?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 10:11:56 AM »
2. Ano naman po ang tawag sa normal na recording?. normal as in, mauna drummer, tpos bassist tapos guitars, tapos voc... sa studio?

TRACKING ang tawag NOON, nung panahon namin sa ANALOG ( Reel ).... ewan ko na ngaun...

3. Ano naman ang tawag sa recording sa studio na sabay sabay sila lahat tumutugtog...

MULTI-TRACKING: first step yan: priority to record seriously is the DRUM TRACKS. Then CURING or TRACKING ( ulit ) for other tracks, or additional tracks...

Kaya noon, may TRACKING ROOM-CONTROL ROOM ( sa O.A. Cubao ).... then MIXING ROOM, then MASTERING ROOM... ( sa GSP, San Juan ).

magastos di ba?  Ngayon, pwede na sa iisang lugar eh. Basta ok ang mga equipment and facilities...
« Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 10:16:06 AM by alien_inside »
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LouieAzcona

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Re: Ano po ba ang appropriate na tawag sa mga to...?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 07:02:28 PM »
2. Ano naman po ang tawag sa normal na recording?. normal as in, mauna drummer, tpos bassist tapos guitars, tapos voc... sa studio?

TRACKING ang tawag NOON, nung panahon namin sa ANALOG ( Reel ).... ewan ko na ngaun...

3. Ano naman ang tawag sa recording sa studio na sabay sabay sila lahat tumutugtog...

MULTI-TRACKING: first step yan: priority to record seriously is the DRUM TRACKS. Then CURING or TRACKING ( ulit ) for other tracks, or additional tracks...

Kaya noon, may TRACKING ROOM-CONTROL ROOM ( sa O.A. Cubao ).... then MIXING ROOM, then MASTERING ROOM... ( sa GSP, San Juan ).

magastos di ba?  Ngayon, pwede na sa iisang lugar eh. Basta ok ang mga equipment and facilities...


pero kasi may nakikita ako mga recording studio.... may mga AD na ganito:

REORDING. live or multitrack.

most probably, ang ibig sabihin niya sa "live" eh sabay sabay,,, naisip ko pwede mo din naman tawaging multitrack ang recording kapag sabay sabay kayo tumugtog diba?

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Re: Ano po ba ang appropriate na tawag sa mga to...?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 01:31:06 AM »
pero kasi may nakikita ako mga recording studio.... may mga AD na ganito:

REORDING. live or multitrack.

most probably, ang ibig sabihin niya sa "live" eh sabay sabay,,, naisip ko pwede mo din naman tawaging multitrack ang recording kapag sabay sabay kayo tumugtog diba?

I think "live" for that matter means all instruments and vocals are put (or played) in one track and then recorded. no per instrument/vocal editing can be done na after the recording. mas mabilis, mas tipid -- most of the time, low quality. I do this a lot at church (thanks Audacity). Pag sabit, talagang sabit. hehehe! :-D :-D

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 02:05:22 AM »
RECORDING: Live or multitrack

or maybe they mean " RECORD AS IS ": multitrack pa rin pero NO RECORD BUSSES....stereo out goes to "tape" or any recording media...

IN GENERAL NA SIGURO YUN! Pag " LIVE ", recorded as is ( pwede pa rin mag overdub if needed..) ....AND pag multitrack, may curing and overdubbing afterwards...

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Re: Ano po ba ang appropriate na tawag sa mga to...?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 09:29:32 PM »
1. kapag nirecord mo ang banda sa live performance nila, on stage = LIVE RECORDING

2. Ano naman po ang tawag sa normal na recording?. normal as in, mauna drummer, tpos bassist tapos guitars, tapos voc... sa studio?

3. Ano naman ang tawag sa recording sa studio na sabay sabay sila lahat tumutugtog...


No. 1 is considered a Live Recording - as in recording the stage performance as is.

No. 2 is considered "Tracking" or "recording by tracks" or sometimes they term it as "overdubbing."  Normally, the way it i done is to record the drums and bass with scratch guitar, vocal and keyboards.  Then, you "cure" the guitar, keys, even the bass if need be.  You never touch the drums.  That is the one you keep.  Then, you overdub the other instruments, i. e., rhythm guitar, second keys, horns, etc.  Then, the solo instruments, i. e., guitar, sax, keys, etc.  Finally, you remove the scratch vocal and you put in the final vocal.  But sometimes the scratch becomes the final vocal.  Depends on the performance - the reason why the engineer should always keep his fingers on the record button and records all performances or activities in the studio.  There are instrumental riffs that are done in situ and cannot be done or duplicated all over gain.  Same with vocals.

No. 3 is almost the same as 2.  But in the old days of direct to disc or tape, that is what it\s called "Direct to Disc or Tape."  You record the whole band simultaneously.  Sometimes you can do overdubs or "punch ins" but if the purpose is to capture the entire performance live in the studio, you never do any correction.  There are releases that are done direct to tape or disc.  What comes into mind is the Clair Marlow record that was recorded in the 80's and it is direct to disc.  Bamboo is recorded using process no. 3 but modified to follow no. 2.  It really is up to the producer on how to capture the recording excitement and performance of the group being recorded.  You have to remember that the recording process is suppose to record (as much as you can) how the band sounds live; how their sound can easily be duplicated on stage - in live situations.  That is what the fans look for.  Dapat, plakang plaka.

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 10:46:34 PM »
add na natin to: SCRATCH RECORDING

I've worked with lots of bands before ( early 90's ) doing their "scratch" things on the studio... and its true... sometimes the scratch makes the " FINALS "... may iba naman, maganda na yung scratch, pero babaguhin pa rin ( making it simpler ) kasi baka di daw nya ma-PLAKA pag dating sa live gig...

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Re: Ano po ba ang appropriate na tawag sa mga to...?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 10:53:55 PM »
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LouieAzcona

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Re: Ano po ba ang appropriate na tawag sa mga to...?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 02:13:28 PM »
No. 1 is considered a Live Recording - as in recording the stage performance as is.

No. 2 is considered "Tracking" or "recording by tracks" or sometimes they term it as "overdubbing."  Normally, the way it i done is to record the drums and bass with scratch guitar, vocal and keyboards.  Then, you "cure" the guitar, keys, even the bass if need be.  You never touch the drums.  That is the one you keep.  Then, you overdub the other instruments, i. e., rhythm guitar, second keys, horns, etc.  Then, the solo instruments, i. e., guitar, sax, keys, etc.  Finally, you remove the scratch vocal and you put in the final vocal.  But sometimes the scratch becomes the final vocal.  Depends on the performance - the reason why the engineer should always keep his fingers on the record button and records all performances or activities in the studio.  There are instrumental riffs that are done in situ and cannot be done or duplicated all over gain.  Same with vocals.

No. 3 is almost the same as 2.  But in the old days of direct to disc or tape, that is what it\s called "Direct to Disc or Tape."  You record the whole band simultaneously.  Sometimes you can do overdubs or "punch ins" but if the purpose is to capture the entire performance live in the studio, you never do any correction.  There are releases that are done direct to tape or disc.  What comes into mind is the Clair Marlow record that was recorded in the 80's and it is direct to disc.  Bamboo is recorded using process no. 3 but modified to follow no. 2.  It really is up to the producer on how to capture the recording excitement and performance of the group being recorded.  You have to remember that the recording process is suppose to record (as much as you can) how the band sounds live; how their sound can easily be duplicated on stage - in live situations.  That is what the fans look for.  Dapat, plakang plaka.

FWIW

thanks a lot sir mike! i guess kelangan mabasa ng mga commercial studio owners to.