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Offline deltaslim

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Variax + Workbench = Heaven!
« on: June 19, 2009, 09:17:07 AM »
Now I get open/alt tunings w/ a flick of a switch.  I even make the guitar or pickup selection change with it.  Dream come true.  Haaaaay! 

Here's what's in my Custom settings. The numbers refer to the 5 way switch positions

Custom 1 settings (for electric)
1 Open E - Les Paul flametop, bridge pu
2 Open A - bridge -  Special w/ P90
3 Open E - Les Paul flametop, bridge pu
4 Open G - neck - Junior w/ P90
5 Open E - Les Paul flametop, neck pu

Custom 2 settings (for acoustic)
1 Open G - Style O
2 Open A - Style O
3 Open G - Banjo
4 Open D - Tricone
5 Open E - Tricone
* I'm still playing around with these settings. I think I'll throw in some options for Dano/lipstick or DeArmond. I don't need open A or cuz I can use a capo anytime anyway.

Thanks to blues bro Bitoy for the Workbench. 

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Re: Variax + Workbench = Heaven!
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 10:51:26 AM »
Haay salamat may kasama na ako.. :-)

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 10:10:15 PM »
Medyo matagal ko na di ginamit workbench ko. I don't even recall all my custom settings  :-D. Si Adrian Belew nag Parker na, pero yung signature model niya, may Variax yung loob. Bale Parker + Variax = Adrian Belew Model  :evil:.

All my acoustic guitar sounds are from my Variax.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 11:51:40 PM »
Ayos! All in one na.

MrActionFingers

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2009, 01:17:43 AM »
Now I get open/alt tunings w/ a flick of a switch.  I even make the guitar or pickup selection change with it.  Dream come true.  Haaaaay! 

Here's what's in my Custom settings. The numbers refer to the 5 way switch positions

Custom 2 settings (for acoustic)
1 Open G - Style O
2 Open A - Style O
3 Open G - Banjo
4 Open D - Tricone
5 Open E - Tricone
* I'm still playing around with these settings. I think I'll throw in some options for Dano/lipstick or DeArmond. I don't need open A or cuz I can use a capo anytime anyway.

   What can you say about the Tricone setting? Is it believable when recorded? How bout live? How does it compare with a REAL resonator?


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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2009, 04:34:41 PM »
   What can you say about the Tricone setting? Is it believable when recorded? How bout live? How does it compare with a REAL resonator?

It will probably work better for recording since there will be no 'coloring'.  Believable? Yes. Exact? No.  A 1930s Tricone, and even my own Johnson Tricone, sounds smoother and warmer than this. It seems to be a cross between a Style O and a Tricone -- "metal clunk" of the former, glassiness and balance of the latter.

Since I was in front of the computer, I recorded this.

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2009, 04:43:04 PM »
Most awesome playing. What tuning was that?

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2009, 06:21:54 PM »
Most awesome playing. What tuning was that?

Thanks, bro. That was open D.

Bili ka na rin Variax -- para madali mag praktis ng lahat ng open tunings. :-)

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2009, 01:11:39 AM »
very interested in getting one of these, but i heard the piezo bridges are a little fragile, the saddle wires apparently get cut when you're not careful in restringing?  if i were to invest in one, where could i have the electronics repaired, if ever?
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2009, 09:14:31 AM »
I didn't know that pero nag restring na ko, ok naman.

If ever, try Mang Raul, he's in the FAQ.


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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2009, 03:40:02 PM »
It will probably work better for recording since there will be no 'coloring'.  Believable? Yes. Exact? No.  A 1930s Tricone, and even my own Johnson Tricone, sounds smoother and warmer than this. It seems to be a cross between a Style O and a Tricone -- "metal clunk" of the former, glassiness and balance of the latter.

Great. Just what I wanted to hear actually. I want it to sound authentic when printed but still have its own personality. I'm not too hung up on modelling technology like a lot of people who dismiss it just because it doesn't sound exactly like the real counterparts. Heck, 2 Tricones of the same make and model probably wouldn't sound the same. I guess the people who benefits most from the technology are the open minded ones. Kudos to you. Now how about some down & dirty delta blues with the sitar setting with all strings tuned to Eb?!  :-o :-D

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2009, 03:47:06 PM »
Great. Just what I wanted to hear actually. I want it to sound authentic when printed but still have its own personality. I'm not too hung up on modelling technology like a lot of people who dismiss it just because it doesn't sound exactly like the real counterparts. Heck, 2 Tricones of the same make and model probably wouldn't sound the same. I guess the people who benefits most from the technology are the open minded ones. Kudos to you. Now how about some down & dirty delta blues with the sitar setting with all strings tuned to Eb?!  :-o :-D


The recording I made doesn't do it justice, too compressed/processed.  At a gig, this thing literally turns heads when I switch models.

Overheard at a gig:  "Uy, banjo yun ah!"   :-D

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2009, 07:11:46 PM »
Overheard at a gig:  "Uy, banjo yun ah!"   :-D

Mismo eto. Sa akin nga nag change lang ako from electric to acoustic guitar nagtaka na mga tao  :-D.

Regarding sa tibay ng variax, I got the very first shipment of variax 700 from yupangco wayback 2004 pa. Til now wala namang lumalabas na defect. I think sa mga lower models (500, 300 and 600) may mga konting issues, pero sa 700 wala naman.

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2009, 07:16:30 PM »
uy joric, mukhang your variax is starting to "Open up" hahahaa....

ayos yan.. sa next na gig ah.. dalhin mo . :-D
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2009, 10:10:11 PM »
gusto ko din ng variax 700 acoustic to eliminate alternate tuning annoyance  :-)
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2009, 07:00:48 AM »
Custom 1 settings (for electric)
1 Open E - Les Paul flametop, bridge pu
2 Open A - bridge -  Special w/ P90
3 Open E - Les Paul flametop, bridge pu
4 Open G - neck - Junior w/ P90
5 Open E - Les Paul flametop, neck pu
May redundancy, Rev. :lol: walang peter green setting (in open E)?

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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2009, 07:19:44 AM »
Since I was in front of the computer, I recorded this.
believable nga.

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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2009, 10:06:24 AM »
May redundancy, Rev. :lol: walang peter green setting (in open E)?

Uy, gumawa ako PG model na out of phase parallel PAFs! Nilagay ko sa position 4 ng Les Paul setting.  So dun sa isang knob position, the 5 way switch gives me: LP PAF neck, LP PAF bridge + neck, LP PAF bridge, PG tone, LP goltop bridge tone.

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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2009, 05:18:58 PM »
Uy, gumawa ako PG model na out of phase parallel PAFs! Nilagay ko sa position 4 ng Les Paul setting.  So dun sa isang knob position, the 5 way switch gives me: LP PAF neck, LP PAF bridge + neck, LP PAF bridge, PG tone, LP goltop bridge tone.
:lol: tweaker's dream talaga yang workbench :lol:

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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2009, 06:20:31 PM »
question: what's better sounding, using the footswitch when connecting the variax to an x3 live, or using a digital cable?
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