Re: Head to Head Comparison

[paeng16]

wow... nawala yung body ng thread... 

It's like this...

I hope we can make a thread that will subject products or players or whatever to head to head comparison.

e.g. - Zildjian K splash vs Wuhan
Zildjian K PROS - Warm sound, consistent, well build etc.
Zildjian K CONS - Expensive, etc

Wuhan PROS - Trashy sound, very cheap
Wuhan CONS - sound quality is not consistent with the same cymbal, soft and prone to crack more than the K

Summary - Buy Wuhan, murang mura.. good luck sa pag hahanap ng gusto mong sound!

Sana hwag magalit yung mga iba kung maka kuha sila ng negative feed back kapag na head to head sila.. 

[paeng16]

Head-to-Head [16" vs 18" crash]

I am planning to buy Papum's A Custom Projection Crash 18". But I am having second thoughts because I like the sound of a size 16" Projection Crash and I am affraid that the 18" will sound deeper and less brighter than the 16".

As for Kibohead's advice which I take also into consideration...
- sa 16" mabibitin ka sa open spaces. so kailangan ng mas malaki.

hmmmmm... I really appreciate your comment and the price is irrelevant in this post. (Do I go for 16" or 18")   

[inigo]

Main diff with 16 and 18 is pitch and volume. 16 will be higher, but less loud. Brightness is the same. Try it out in a band situation.

[paeng16]

AMEN BRO!! hmmmm... So will you choose 16" or 18'??

[inigo]

AMEN BRO!! hmmmm... So will you choose 16" or 18'??

Neither. I want a 20".

[paeng16]

Hindi ba mag tunog RIDE na yun sa laki ng size??

[inigo]

Hindi ba mag tunog RIDE na yun sa laki ng size??

More than the size, being a ride or crash really is about how one uses a cymbal.

Having said that, cymbals that are labeled "crash" are usually tapered enough to be crashable enough to sound like a crash. So, no.

[paeng16]

More than the size, being a ride or crash really is about how one uses a cymbal.

Having said that, cymbals that are labeled "crash" are usually tapered enough to be crashable enough to sound like a crash. So, no.

I get what you mean Inigo..  though there are RIDE's that can be played/sounds-like as CRASH and can even sound like hihats.. These models of cymbals are what I do not want.. I find it as a waste space.. I want definition of sound..  And going back to what I've said.. you'd rather get the 20" huh!?!?  

Thanks for the post men (no sarcasm).. This is something "NEW" to me and I really appreciate it!

[watcher]

Ill go for a 20" too if I were playing in luneta hehehehehe.... actually what I take into consideration is the place where I am gonna play. Yung ambiance ng place at set up ng sound system. And I also take my band members suggestions to make my playing more defined and unique as well.

Going back to your concern I myself have 16" and 18" but I use the 18" more often simply becaus hindi madaling mawala ung tunog nya and its very versatile. I can play it in an open-large area and close-tight studio sessions na hindi mkakasakit sa tenga ng mga kabandmates ko:)

[s2ry0fdyr]

O.T.

crashing a' size 20' cymbal requires a lot of energy..
dont you think'?

[kibohead]

sa tingin ko lang po, dami din po kasing factors sa pagpili ng cymbal model at size. anjan na yung venue/space, genre at purpose, etc. Not all 16 crashes have the same volume & projection. Same goes to other sizes. kaya siguro po, mas maganda alamin yung music na pag gagamitan(dito po kasi papasok din yung volume required, pitch and saturation na babagay sa music), yung lugar naman(dito papasok yung control din ng cymbal niyo aside sa volume) at sa purpose mo( meron kasing effects cymbals...anjan ang fast crashes, trashy crashes, etc. kadalasan, heavier cymbals po have a longer saturation and a brighter sound habang ang thinner crashes are faster and darker. mas nagbleblend sa music rather nag aacentuate. kaya siguro, karamihan would prefer to have both.) lahat may purpose po talaga. at syempre anjan na din yung proper techniques sa pagpalo ng cymbal para mas tumagal ang buhay at mas mag project ng maayos. 

[inigo]

O.T.

crashing a' size 20' cymbal requires a lot of energy..
dont you think'?

Not necessarily. Crashing a THICK cymbal requires a lot of energy. Crashing a thin one doesn't.