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Offline sonnaqs

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Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« on: June 24, 2007, 09:14:04 PM »
mga bros...
when play in live gigs sa especially sa mlalaking area, madalas ang problema namin eh hindi magkarinigan... lalo na pag walang monitor, or walang monitor for drums... i gues fault to ng techs or organizers kung wala,,, pero ang hirap tlga magplay kapag wala... madalas hindi ko matantsa or marinig ung kick, or malaman tlga ang tunog ko...
any tips on this??
and also ung pano magcoordinate sa techs kapag may monitor.

im also thinkin of changing my felt beater, i think i need a more solid clicking sound on the kicks din..

thanks bros!!  \m/
« Last Edit: June 25, 2007, 12:45:42 AM by sonnaqs »
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Offline harugrugrug

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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2007, 11:31:30 PM »
pag ganyan.. we don't have money to provide for our own monitors..
ayun.. eye to eye contact na lang ako sa bassist.. lalu na dati sa mayrics...
wla ka talaga marinig.. tapos sa sound naman.. meron kameng tropa na kasama na nagbibigay ng sign samin kung anung prob.. kung may mahina o malakas... ayun.. pero minsan lang.. as for ur click.. try putting one piece of metronome to your ear.. ginawa ko in dati.. mahairap.. pero mas maganda kung magpractice ka sa haus na lang with click...
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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2007, 05:50:12 AM »
mga bros...
when play in live gigs sa especially sa mlalaking area, madalas ang problema namin eh hindi magkarinigan... lalo na pag walang monitor, or walang monitor for drums... i gues fault to ng techs or organizers kung wala,,, pero ang hirap tlga magplay kapag wala... madalas hindi ko matantsa or marinig ung kick, or malaman tlga ang tunog ko...
any tips on this??
and also ung pano magcoordinate sa techs kapag may monitor.

im also thinkin of changing my felt beater, i think i need a more solid clicking sound on the kicks din..

thanks bros!!  \m/

i use a direct-from-mixer feed through my in ear monitors.
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Offline vaisteen2003

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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2007, 12:40:39 PM »
mga bros...
when play in live gigs sa especially sa mlalaking area, madalas ang problema namin eh hindi magkarinigan... lalo na pag walang monitor, or walang monitor for drums... i gues fault to ng techs or organizers kung wala,,, pero ang hirap tlga magplay kapag wala... madalas hindi ko matantsa or marinig ung kick, or malaman tlga ang tunog ko...
any tips on this??
and also ung pano magcoordinate sa techs kapag may monitor.

im also thinkin of changing my felt beater, i think i need a more solid clicking sound on the kicks din..

thanks bros!!  \m/

i use a direct-from-mixer feed through my in ear monitors.

sir abys can you elaborate on that?
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Offline Gep

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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2007, 01:50:44 PM »
Kung live gig na tinutukoy mo e yung open grounds type na event, naranasan ko na pareho.

Kapag walang monitor, hindi mo maririnig karaniwan ang vocals, kasi nasa pinakaharap ang speakers non. Ang maririnig mo lang talaga e yung low end. In this case, kailangan talaga praktisado ka, para di ka mawala sa pagtugtog kahit na di mo marinig ang mga kabanda mo. Kung hindi pa ganun ka-praktisado yung mga kanta, senyasan na lang kayo.

Kapag may monitor naman, ok yun, maririnig mo ang lahat. Pero minsan may panahon na hindi pantay ang volumes ng mga instrumento sa monitor. Kaya minsan nakakapanibago.

Kaya dapat, with or without monitors, magkaroon kayo ng soundcheck na kanta para maareglo niyo ang palo!  :-D


Offline greysky

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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2007, 02:02:30 PM »
bro drums ka nmn dba?
try mo gumamit ng ear plugs (pra marinig mo sarili mo)
tpos kung memorize mo nman ung songs na tutugtugin nyo
all you need to do is do your part
tpos ung mga other members mo na ung sasabay sa beat mo
ikaw kc ung pinaka metronome nila

IMO lng ah hope it helps
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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2007, 03:13:34 PM »
mostly common ito sa mga outdoor events kasi i think nababale-wala ang ating monitor systems....

dito na pumapasok ang tightness niyo as a band kasi you can feel each other's beat kahit hindi kayo magkarinigan. Kaya very very important ang practice to get each other's jive and be in sync.... It helps to look, pero dito ako namamaos parati kapag gig kasi i give signals for the next sequences. and it helps a lot in this situations kung sequence mismo ang i-memorize mo and dun tumatakbo ang whole sifra niyo kasi kapag nagkawalaan kasi di magkarinigan, may failsafe plan kayo para bumalik sa rhythm...
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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 01:52:25 AM »
thanks mga tol, everybit helped...
yun na nga,, kapag outdoor tlga medyo madugong kapaan,,
i gues yun nga,, kelangan sanayin, concntrate on the sound, and most importantly, sensyasan..

pero minsan buraot tlga at minsan nangyayaring palpak a soundsystem... hhehe it cant be helped..

tnx bros!
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 07:23:19 PM »
hirap niyan lalo pag ang intro gitara tapos biglang papasok drums, maririnig mo lang echo pag nasa indoor na malaki ang space tapos nasa harap mo lahat ng speaker, nangyari samin dati to, di ko alam kung papasok na ako, pumasok na lang ako, bahala na, ayun mali ako, nag adjust na lang mga kabanda ko.
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Offline drumfreak

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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2007, 02:19:35 AM »
ako magkakamatayan kame ng tech pag wala ako monitor. hahaha. isusumbong ko sha sa bossing nia. hehe.

importante kase lalo na pag impromptu ung mga pasok nio halimbawa ng spiel ung vocalist sa gitna ng kanta (for example bigla sha tumambling). nde ko tlga sisimulan ung first song after ng soundcheck hanggat ndi ako satisfied sa tunog ng monitor..
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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2007, 02:45:30 AM »
heheh ako din sa bassist naka-abang. pag may monitors lahat ng gitara pinapalagay ko. pero kung tamad yung tech basta abang lang ako sa bassist.
pumikit ka na lang nang hindi mo maramdaman...

Offline sonnaqs

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2007, 03:08:23 AM »

yeah dude,, bassist tlga ang besfrend natin dyan..
naku pag tamad ung tech kaasar tlga!

kung awa ng diyos may monitor kahit kick lang solb nako...

di ko tlga marinig kung kick ko kapag big place ung gig at walang monitor,
i was thinkin maybe kc ung beater ko kc felt so hindi ko msyado rinig/feel ung impact??
do you i think i should buy new beaters??
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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2007, 12:03:23 PM »
hehehe baket nga ganun noh? ang magic lang. minsan kahit d mo madinig yung iba basta kabit sa bahista ok na pa rin.
pumikit ka na lang nang hindi mo maramdaman...

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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2007, 05:23:32 PM »
malaking problema yan kung walang monitor yung drumset kung open space siya. okay lang kung nasa closed area kung wala. basta wag lang sa mga stadiums. need yun. :-)
nakakaiyak kung walang monitors yung drums. di mo maririnig yung mga tugtog mo. and yung volume ng playing mo, pwedeng umiba. baka tayo di mabingi. pero yung mga nanoonod mabibingi. :-)

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Re: Playing drums on a live gig, with and without a monitor.
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2007, 01:19:38 AM »
i also try with/without monitors, sa with medyo ok sya kasi maririnig mo ung mga instrument ng kabanda mo and even the vocals, sa without ayan dyan ako medyo nasanay, kasi diba nagprapraktis naman sa mga studio minsan nde rin nagkakarinigan, minsan mahina ang vocals, minsan mahina ang gitara at minsan mahina ang bass kaya ayun, kinabisado ko na lang ung tutugtugin namin kaya nakasabay ako, syempre nilakasan ko na rin palo ko para makasabay sila...
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