Monitoring your tone at smallish venues

[IncX]

im a bass player, so what i usually do is get off the stage and ask the band to play one of those big ending crescendos, cymbals and guitars blasting ... i use that as a basis for how loud my bass will be.

then i let the singer sing while i check out the sound from a distance, and then that is how we set out overall volume ... it is really important to base the sound off the singer, although most of the time, your band's overall volume is pretty much dictated on how hard your drummer hits (the more control he has, the better).

you know its too loud when you cant hear the singer cause of the guitars - guitars are usually what causes volume wars. it makes the drummer hit louder, the singer scream/strain her voice and the bassist inaudible (poor bassist, he always ends up with the crappiest amplification known to man)

[magtataho7]

im a bass player, so what i usually do is get off the stage and ask the band to play one of those big ending crescendos, cymbals and guitars blasting ... i use that as a basis for how loud my bass will be.

then i let the singer sing while i check out the sound from a distance, and then that is how we set out overall volume ... it is really important to base the sound off the singer, although most of the time, your band's overall volume is pretty much dictated on how hard your drummer hits (the more control he has, the better).

you know its too loud when you cant hear the singer cause of the guitars - guitars are usually what causes volume wars. it makes the drummer hit louder, the singer scream/strain her voice and the bassist inaudible (poor bassist, he always ends up with the crappiest amplification known to man)

Wow. I'll take note of this sir. thanks

[kernelsalonpas]

normally nakaslant pataas ang amps. lalo na pag unidirectional ang mga speakers. sa iba naman tinatalikod nila ung amp sa audience. sa iba nakaharap sa wall. ung iba may plexiglass sa harap ng amp nila.

always start with the vox, and then the instruments' volumes should follow. sana marunong magvolume down din drummer nyo

[magtataho7]

sana marunong magvolume down din drummer nyo

 

I'll experiment with amp placement sir. thanks!

Meron din akong nakikitang nakatape na cloth dun sa gitna ng speaker grille, pang-muffle daw ng high freqs?

[acidtest]

normally nakaslant pataas ang amps. lalo na pag unidirectional ang mga speakers. sa iba naman tinatalikod nila ung amp sa audience. sa iba nakaharap sa wall. ung iba may plexiglass sa harap ng amp nila.

always start with the vox, and then the instruments' volumes should follow. sana marunong magvolume down din drummer nyo

this!

[shredmaestrobri]

Kung SS amp gamit mo, kuha ka ng 75 watts and above. Ok SS sa low volumes naman. It has that flexibility of going loud or low. Pag sinagad mo kasi volume ng solid state, say the 30 watts, to be heard may possibility na masakit sa tenga. Most likely kaya nagcomplain ng too loud is because mataas na volume at di na maganda tunog. Unlike having a lot of wattage potential, kahit pahinaan o palakasin (wag lang sagarin), mataas volume at di masakit. Rinig pa rin. Pero pag 30 watts all tube yan ok yan palakasin.

[kernelsalonpas]

I'll experiment with amp placement sir. thanks!

Meron din akong nakikitang nakatape na cloth dun sa gitna ng speaker grille, pang-muffle daw ng high freqs?

di pako nakakita nun. pero counterproductive un imo. nasabi mo tele, kaya trebly. try fiddling with the eq. sa experience ko even if it's loud as long as maganda eq people won't complain too  pag karaoke shrill na un masakit sa tenga parang pusong bato haha

[ael_israel]

di pako nakakita nun. pero counterproductive un imo. nasabi mo tele, kaya trebly. try fiddling with the eq. sa experience ko even if it's loud as long as maganda eq people won't complain too  pag karaoke shrill na un masakit sa tenga parang pusong bato haha

Yeah tama eq din works I remember dati din nung 5 piece band setup naman ako nun eq really helped me balance our sound malaking tulong din yun eh..mahirap din kasi yung sobrang hina niyong lahat eh..parang patay pakinggan.mahirap iexplain pero for sure naranasan niyo na yung ganun..hehe.tsaka tama ka kernel dapat din drummer niyo marunong umadjust yung iba kasi palo nalang ng palo..ano ba tawag dun walang dynamics nga ba?

[kernelsalonpas]

Yeah tama eq din works I remember dati din nung 5 piece band setup naman ako nun eq really helped me balance our sound malaking tulong din yun eh..mahirap din kasi yung sobrang hina niyong lahat eh..parang patay pakinggan.mahirap iexplain pero for sure naranasan niyo na yung ganun..hehe.tsaka tama ka kernel dapat din drummer niyo marunong umadjust yung iba kasi palo nalang ng palo..ano ba tawag dun walang dynamics nga ba?

haha pag sobrang hina patay pakinggan. oo lam ko din un. ung parang mawwalan ka ng ganang tumugtog haha... sa case ko din kasi 3 piece (katulad ni hearthrob ael) kame kaya pataas ang volume namen. pag 2 na gitarista aun kelangan balanse.

oo meng, dynamics! grabe nakaexperience ako ng ilang drummer na ganun hanep eh... ung isa wala na nga dynamics, iisa lang ang palo. ung pangalawa naman magaling sana kaso nanggigigil kaya palakas ng palakas hahaha

[giftmones]

or how about buy a wireless system?

then punta sa likod ng crowd, play some chords.

ayun mamonitor mo na tone mo. )

[magtataho7]

(poor bassist, he always ends up with the crappiest amplification known to man)

Medyo OT but please elaborate...I'm curious hehe

[IncX]

Medyo OT but please elaborate...I'm curious hehe

it sounds like i said it ... if the guitarist gets a 75 watt line 6 spider, the bassists get a 30 watt laney RB. if the guitarists get a 30 watt marshall, bassists gets a karaoke amp

[free2rock]

it sounds like i said it ... if the guitarist gets a 75 watt line 6 spider, the bassists get a 30 watt laney RB. if the guitarists get a 30 watt marshall, bassists gets a karaoke amp

[magtataho7]

it sounds like i said it ... if the guitarist gets a 75 watt line 6 spider, the bassists get a 30 watt laney RB. if the guitarists get a 30 watt marshall, bassists gets a karaoke amp

Explains why our bassist brings his heavy amp every time...............

OT Next gig: open-air jam. Frankly I'm scared, I've witnessed horrible disorienting "sound rebounds" esp. the bass drum