Author Topic: The GROOVE thread (Read 7018 times)

palolo_worm · « **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2007, 10:17:26 PM »

hmmm. labo nga. kasi sa amin, kung sinabing groove, un ung parang "sentence" ng drum part. so yung groove pwedeng on time, behind or ahead of time. and nangyayari lang, merong mga grooves that feel good at pasok sa kanta at meron ding hindi.

ung poste naman, parang term namin para maggive way sa isang soloist. so assuming na nasa percussion line ka, tapos conga solo time, keeping post means to play in a manner that would support the conga player but never overthrow him. parang ganun. pero siyempre hindi lang sa soloist, bastat playing the drums to support the song. so in a sense, parang pwede mong sabihin na maganda groove niya at nag-poposte rin at the same time. so un sa amin.

jeva · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2007, 11:11:45 PM »

Quote from: palolo_worm on April 15, 2007, 10:17:26 PM

hmmm. labo nga. kasi sa amin, kung sinabing groove, un ung parang "sentence" ng drum part. so yung groove pwedeng on time, behind or ahead of time. and nangyayari lang, merong mga grooves that feel good at pasok sa kanta at meron ding hindi.

ung poste naman, parang term namin para maggive way sa isang soloist. so assuming na nasa percussion line ka, tapos conga solo time, keeping post means to play in a manner that would support the conga player but never overthrow him. parang ganun. pero siyempre hindi lang sa soloist, bastat playing the drums to support the song. so in a sense, parang pwede mong sabihin na maganda groove niya at nag-poposte rin at the same time. so un sa amin.

Sir, mukhang yan ang pinaka magandang sagot for me. Kasi it is logical nga naman. You were able to point out clearly kung kailan inaapply...

May iba ka pa ba sir supporting reading or articles about that. para mabasa ko at mas lalo ko maintindihan. Nung una akala ko pareho lang.hindi pala.

Salamat sir.

deriru · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2008, 10:49:42 AM »

mga sir may mga thread po ba kayo yung pwede mag aral ng groove solo??
o di kaya anung mga strokes po ba ang pwede magamit pang solo?

pyong_2 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2008, 06:37:07 PM »

si aaron spears drummer ni usher paborito triplets.

key.hold · « **Reply #29 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:51:20 PM »

NDUGU CHANCLER: Groove to me is musicians playing a rhythm, a pattern, and a song where it feels good enough to affect people in a way that causes some type of reaction. Some type of reaction could be some toe tapping, to fingers moving, to head swaying, to body dancing, and to just feeling good; but feeling whatever that particular groove can portray. When I say "that groove", because some songs are not meant to be happy and make you dance. Some songs are meant to make you feel solemn. A groove is capturing the essence of, whatever, that song is meant to..

...KABIT!

niNgpo · « **Reply #30 on:** August 25, 2008, 06:10:33 PM »

groove comes from the body... it's the umami feeling inside the soul that shakes your body to the dance of the drum beat.

pyong_2 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 30, 2008, 07:43:41 AM »

si bagets ang pinakagroovy saking drummer sa pinas o kahit panginternational pa, di nakakasawa.... nakakaadik pa hahahah....

rays · « **Reply #32 on:** August 30, 2008, 11:35:29 AM »

diba ang POSTE - sumasabay ka lang sa tempo at time signature tapos ang GROOVE - nagdidisplace ka ng beat or syncopating beat kumbaga nilalagyan ng arte pero sabay padin sa tempo at time signature.

kimpoy19 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 31, 2008, 05:19:53 PM »

wow, gets ko na! thanks sainyo. hehe!
so mahilig pala ako sa grooves.

thanks a lot guys

dekturrr · « **Reply #34 on:** November 26, 2008, 03:51:16 PM »

guys hndi ko alam kung may thread na ganito, anyways, as a drummer...
ask ko lang kung paano kayo natuto (and kung paano tinuturo) ang pumalo ng tunog "mayaman" or ung "groove" na tinatawag.
marami kaseng drummer impressive pumalo when it comes to fast drumming, lakas ng palo, rudiments, and sight reading, pero wala ung "groove" feel, or ung "X" factor,

eto ung mga steps or factors na nangyari sken before i acquired that "feel".
1) nakinig at nagbabad sa mga cd's ni Ron Kenoly
2) i learned and played the bass for 13 years in our church kaya alam ko ang dilema ng bass player kapag bumibilis ang palo ng drummer.

pa-share naman nung sa inyo.

Akira JUMBO · « **Reply #35 on:** November 27, 2008, 06:12:25 AM »

Hmm..I am trying to figure what "tunog mayaman" is and I just can't quite figure.

For me I think groove is built with time and experience, I myself still lack this. It is one of the hardest things to acquire as a drummer and is also seldom seen in us.

I'll let the more experience drummers here explain further.

sebastianm · « **Reply #36 on:** November 28, 2008, 04:01:33 PM »

jeff porcaro ng toto... galing na groove drummer.. ayun mga kanta ng toto ok to practice at to feel grooves... also steve gadd's 50 Ways to leave your lover ayos din groove nun..

kibohead · « **Reply #37 on:** November 28, 2008, 05:43:42 PM »

sakin ang groove kasi, is like putting spices on a simple musical phrase...parang nilalagyan mo ng dynamics yung simple measure...in time parin, pero with more flavor...dun pinapasok yung displacements, ghost notes, accentuations, etc...

or another explanation para sa akin...yung summing up and combining notes to establish a good musical sound.

Tugpaktugpak · « **Reply #38 on:** November 28, 2008, 07:14:07 PM »

Patay tayo jan........AYus toh...malamang,eto ang pdeng maging kalabasan ng EB natin this december 13......cge mga tol.....request lang kayo ng mga grooves dito...para sa EB.........hehehehehhehe........peace

parequest ulit ng songo variations....

mambo · « **Reply #39 on:** November 28, 2008, 08:29:49 PM »

kaya ba poste kasi supporta siya, maybe to an interresting part of the song? parang siya yung magbuild up to a new certain beat?

and a groove, yung tipong papakinggan mo talaga dahil very catchy un beat nya and its not repetitive...it could support its own music without the help of other instruments.

just an opinion.

drummer_boy17 · « **Reply #40 on:** November 30, 2008, 03:22:08 PM »

pagdating sa mga grooves idol ko si portnoy..

Akira JUMBO · « **Reply #41 on:** November 30, 2008, 04:24:38 PM »

Quote from: mambo on November 28, 2008, 08:29:49 PM

its not repetitive..

I agree with your opinion except for this part where in you referred to groove as non repetitive. Groove like what others have said is usually repetitive but has some small quirks into it that makes it really catchy and sonically pleasing.

Quote from: drummer_boy17 on November 30, 2008, 03:22:08 PM

pagdating sa mga grooves idol ko si portnoy..

For me Portnoy is not a groove drummer at all, maybe he can be but based on his dreamtheater performances and recordings no. He is more used to using complicated techniques and variations rather than keeping a steady pattern.

dekturrr · « **Reply #42 on:** November 30, 2008, 09:23:39 PM »

teka teka po.
let's define terms here.

ang "groove" ba na pinaguusapan naten is identical to "feel"?
what i am asking po kase is how to learn the "feel".

i agree po kay moderator akira Jumbo, portnoy is not a groove drummer.
groove drummers for me are chester thomson, vinnie colaiuta, carl albrecht, alex acuna on percussions

dekturrr · « **Reply #43 on:** November 30, 2008, 09:30:29 PM »

guys meron pa akong isang tanong, and i hope you can shed light on this.
when it comes to drumming with your bass player. kpag parehas kayong may "feel" na tinatawag, yung "feel" na yun ba is timed with a metronome?
kase i believe na yung "feel" or "groove" na tinatawag is not "technically or "precisely" on time.

ang tanong ko is, can you have the "feel" using metronome? or if you have the "feel" then useless na ang metronome?

dekturrr · « **Reply #44 on:** December 01, 2008, 12:30:45 AM »

Quote from: ren0wn15 on November 30, 2008, 10:42:28 PM

Groove to me is musicians playing a rhythm, pattern, and a song where it feels good enough to affect people in a way that 'causes some type of reaction. Some type of reaction could be from toe-tapping, fingers moving, hair swaying, body dancing, and to just feeling good. But feeling whatever that particular groove can portray. And when I say "that groove", because some songs are not meant to be happy and make you dance. Some songs are meant to make you feel solemn; whatever, but a groove is capturing the essence of whatever that song is meant to.

sige simula ngayon ganyan na din definition ko ng groove ha?
hehe
nice

trojanpeter · « **Reply #45 on:** December 04, 2008, 02:22:24 PM »

mga bro! share ko lang to..

i hope u like it...

sarap talaga pakinggan ng grove na i2..

watch nyo MTV lng 2 ng barbies cradel..

pero yung palo sa song,.. ang sarap!!

darchmat · « **Reply #46 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:12:07 AM »

the groove...
one of the things i want to ....establish for my band..

a soothing sound beat...that people will lock into...

its like the soul and personality of the drummer.......

of how he ...execute it...

the Groove....

djk22y · « **Reply #47 on:** December 15, 2008, 07:23:19 PM »

Quote from: key.hold on August 24, 2008, 08:51:20 PM

NDUGU CHANCLER: Groove to me is musicians playing a rhythm, a pattern, and a song where it feels good enough to affect people in a way that causes some type of reaction. Some type of reaction could be some toe tapping, to fingers moving, to head swaying, to body dancing, and to just feeling good; but feeling whatever that particular groove can portray. When I say "that groove", because some songs are not meant to be happy and make you dance. Some songs are meant to make you feel solemn. A groove is capturing the essence of, whatever, that song is meant to..

...KABIT!

I AGREE!!!..that's it..drumming with feelings is a groove..
simply playing the beat is the poste...

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