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Offline titser_marco

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Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« on: December 05, 2007, 12:35:45 PM »
I've got one coming and if it's possible to do that, I'm getting another one. :)
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2007, 01:38:17 PM »
it would work on SOME recording softwares e.g. sony vegas, but that definitely wouldn't work with pro tools m powered.

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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2007, 02:14:03 PM »
Yung 1010LT daw pwede cascade ang 2 for 20 simulataneous tracks. I'd like to think na pwede din.

Nak...you still took the plunge for a Delta 44. Well...much better naman than the Behri stack you were first contemplating.
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2007, 02:22:11 PM »
Yung 1010LT daw pwede cascade ang 2 for 20 simulataneous tracks. I'd like to think na pwede din.

Nak...you still took the plunge for a Delta 44. Well...much better naman than the Behri stack you were first contemplating.

you can cascade up to 4 units of m-audio 1010 cards in one computer, that relates to 32 simultaneous analog inputs.


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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2007, 05:36:26 PM »
it would work on SOME recording softwares e.g. sony vegas, but that definitely wouldn't work with pro tools m powered.

killswitch is right. From the M-Audio Knowledge Base"

"Q: My M-Audio Delta card allows me to link/synchronize multiple cards together for increased I/O, can I use this feature with Pro Tools M-Powered?

A: While many M-Audio Delta cards feature the ability to link & synchronize with other Delta cards for increased I/O, the use of this feature requires that your chosen software application also allow the simultaneous use of multiple audio cards.  Pro Tools M-Power is designed to work with only one audio interface at a time, so it is not possible to used multiple linked audio cards with Pro Tools M-Powered."


Kind of like the ASIO spec, but more severe.  :|
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2007, 08:15:16 PM »
i used to have the 44 years ago. the delta 44 is a good card and will serve you well. congrats!
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2007, 08:53:38 PM »
Thanks! What good programs would work well with this soundcard? Aside from the one included in the CD, that is. :)

I've worked with Cool Edit Pro before. Will that work with the 44?
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2007, 10:23:58 PM »
I've worked with Cool Edit Pro before. Will that work with the 44?

It will although you will be limited to WDM drivers only. Audition 2 is capable of using WDM and asio drivers. Some people sometimes experience better latency with one driver over the other.
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2007, 11:14:48 PM »
Thanks! What good programs would work well with this soundcard? Aside from the one included in the CD, that is. :)

I've worked with Cool Edit Pro before. Will that work with the 44?

I used Cubase 3, Cubasis, Logic (PC versions) and Cool Edit (now Adobe Audition).

I later upgraded to the Delta 1010, on which I ran Cubase VST 5, Reason 1, Beta versions of Ableton Live 1 and Cool Edit Pro.
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2007, 11:25:34 PM »
I still wonder why 2 Delta 44's when it's much cheaper to get a single 1010LT.
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2007, 01:12:10 AM »
Trying to manage my credit card bills, hehe. Plus the breakout box looks like it's going to make cabling/routing  easier for me.

Thanks for the input!
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2007, 01:44:35 AM »
Try this scenario: say you have an 8-bus mixer with direct outs and a 1010LT. Just connect the 1010LT's inputs to the bus direct outs, the mixer now becomes your breakout plus you get routing flexibility (which is how we have set things up at PIMP). You can modify this scenario for a 4-bus mixer, or even one that has direct outs per channel.

Seriously, you will get less headaches using a single 8-input interface than having to put up with syncing two 4-input cards. Plus, I find the lack of spdif I/O on the 44 very limiting especially if I want to sync with other digital gear.

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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2007, 10:50:26 AM »

TIP: I just received word that someone will be selling his Emu 1820m soon.

yeah marco PM mo ako kung interesado ka. ipapackage nung seller yung ADA8000 nya with his EMU1820M. Me, xtaxi, bugoy, marvinq and KitC are some of the users of EMU.

I disposed my 1820m thinking that i can live with FW mixer already. haaaay i miss my EMU.
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2007, 11:10:38 AM »
ipapackage nung seller yung ADA8000 nya with his EMU1820M.

hmm that ADA800 might just be right for my FW1814. hope he'd sell it separately.
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2007, 09:32:45 AM »
I still wonder why 2 Delta 44's when it's much cheaper to get a single 1010LT.

sir kitc, i read in some other forums that the breakout box of the delta44 spells the difference in price (and quality, apparently) between it and the delta1010LT since the AD/DA converters don't reside on the PCI card itself. However, I've also read that on some systems, having 2 or more Delta's on a single PC could cause some syncing problems, but it's not the Delta hardware that's causing them, it's the PCI buses and the way the motherboard handles them (e.g. sometimes the last PCI slot shares the same IRQ as the one before it, etc). I think if someone would want to try using more than one delta in their DAW simultaneously, a good (?) motherboard is crucial :) Also, I think the 1010LT uses gold-plated unbalanced RCA connectors as inputs and outputs, as opposed to the Delta44's balanced 1/4" ins and outs, which some people tend to prefer as regards their choice in cabling and cable length :)
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2007, 11:13:38 AM »
hmm that ADA800 might just be right for my FW1814. hope he'd sell it separately.
i'm saving for an ADC, this could be the one.

i might get the 1820m if it's a good price.

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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2007, 12:40:06 PM »
Also, I think the 1010LT uses gold-plated unbalanced RCA connectors as inputs and outputs, as opposed to the Delta44's balanced 1/4" ins and outs, which some people tend to prefer as regards their choice in cabling and cable length :)

+1 for the 1/4" TRS connectors

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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2007, 01:35:00 PM »
In a way, I have to agree that balanced is better in some cases, but for short cable runs, it shouldn't be a problem especially when interfacing with a mixer.
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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2007, 01:48:57 PM »
You can record in sync with 2 or more different delta cards but you can only monitor on the chosen card.Hindi mo maririnig yung audio coming from the other cards. I have delta 1010lt,delta 44, delta 410 and delta 2496 and i'm gonna sell it pag uwi ko jan sa pinas next March.

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Re: Can 2 Delta-44's sync for a total of 8 simultaneous inputs?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2007, 05:07:48 PM »
You can record in sync with 2 or more different delta cards but you can only monitor on the chosen card.Hindi mo maririnig yung audio coming from the other cards. I have delta 1010lt,delta 44, delta 410 and delta 2496 and i'm gonna sell it pag uwi ko jan sa pinas next March.

I see. So if I get you correctly, I have to monitor the other signals directly (i.e. through the mixer) so I can hear all sounds that are being sent to all Deltas?

P.S. PM me agad when you get here. I'll get the 1010LT (go ahead, KitC, laugh ;) ) and/or  the Delta 44. :)
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