Noob question about tempo...

[geetar_geek79]

Mga boss, paano ko ba maisi-synchronize sa tamang tempo yung recorded drum tracks (not software) kung hindi nakinig sa click track yung drummer?  Tama naman yung tempo nya for the most part.

In the same sense, paano maii-stretch or synchronize yung guitar tracks sa recorded na synth drum track?  Kapag binago ko yung tempo from my DAW, nagbabago din yung tempo ng drums but not the guitar.

I use Tracktion 2 and Mackie Onyx Satellite.  Thanks...

[xjepoyx]

I have no backgroud with Tracktion pero in Cubase mayroong way kung pano mo magagawa yun.

[LouieAzcona]

problema lang sa time stretch, nadidistort ung tunog ng drums eh. parang medyo tumatalon.

siguro, the best diyan, ulitin hanggang matama ung tempo. nagrecord ba kayo ng click track? may bass, may guitar at may vocals, para guide lang, para ma-feel ng drummer yung kanta, at para hindi na niya isipin kung nasaang part na siya ng song.

ang point ko lang, prevention is better than cure. nagkaka-issues kasi sa quality kapag nagt-time stretch eh. nag-time stretch ako dati using soundforge, pangit eh. hindi ko na inulit.

pero kung maliit na off-time lang, okey lang yun bro. importante yung sabi mo nga, most of the time nakakasabay siya. pero ung konting pagbilis o konting pagbagal, ayos lang yun. pero kung 2 to 4 bars ang wala sa tempo, siguro magandang paraan talaga ang umulit. kahit ung portion lang na mali, kung posibleng putulin. 

[dariusbabylon]

you time stretch only small portions, e.g., the offending bar or bars - and using the proper algorithm (found in commercial programs like sound forge), this will not produce noticeable distortion. You'll have distortion if you timestretch large portions or a whole track. This is specially effective for drums. Varying degrees of effectivity for other instruments

If you don't want to time stretch, you can also just replace the bar/ section with a copy of a better-played section.  Again, using a good wav editor

[LouieAzcona]

you time stretch only small portions, e.g., the offending bar or bars - and using the proper algorithm (found in commercial programs like sound forge), this will not produce noticeable distortion. You'll have distortion if you timestretch large portions or a whole track. This is specially effective for drums. Varying degrees of effectivity for other instruments

If you don't want to time stretch, you can also just replace the bar/ section with a copy of a better-played section.  Again, using a good wav editor

yeeees! copy paste! haha. tama.
and tama din, try mo nga mag time-stretch. sorry kung misleading ung last post ko, kasi nagtime stretch ako dati ng isang buong track eh. kaya siguro nagkaroon ng distortion.

[geetar_geek79]

Thanks for your replies, guys.  I completely agree with you that it should be laid down on the track as perfect as can be, but sometimes we do get hard headed bandmates who don't want to listen to the click track and re-recording isn't really possible at times.

I've seen the time stretch option sa Tracktion pero hindi ko pa natignan sa manual kung paano.  Thanks again!