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Offline sikheadzraf

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unregulated adaptor on multifx?
« on: April 08, 2009, 04:32:01 PM »
ask ko lang po if ok lang po ba ang unregulated adaptor sa multifx
or masisira ang multifx? :oops:
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Offline gutz_3110

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Re: unregulated adaptor on multifx?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 10:10:10 PM »
tried it meron kaunting "hiss" sa amp but manageable naman.

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Re: unregulated adaptor on multifx?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2009, 11:13:52 PM »
bad idea.. it fried the circuit :cry:
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Re: unregulated adaptor on multifx?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 11:44:59 PM »
Most MFX already have internal voltage regulators, so most unregulated DC adapters will do.  BUT some DC adapters do not have enough DC filter capacitor (low value capacitors ~1,000uf) to reduce hum.  The solution is to add or replace the existing capacitor with a higher value capacitor (2,200uf or higher).  If your MFX is big and uses a lot of current, use a 4,700uf capacitor.  After doing that, try operating the MFX at 6 volts.  If it works at 6 volts, use that setting.  If it doesn't work, move up to 7.5 volts but never go beyond 9 volts.  If it doesn't work at 9 volts, use a higher rated adapter (1000mA or higher).  If you use 9 volt setting when your MFX works at 6 volts setting, the extra voltage-current delivered to your MFX will only translate to higher heat dissipation form its internal voltage regulator which can damage other components near it and/or melt plastic casing.   

My Zoom707II works at 6 volts setting with 1000mA rated adapter and 9 volts using a 500mA rated adapter.

On old (read: classic or vintage) stomp boxes, it's better to use a well filtered and regulated power supply because many of these only use simple zener-transistor voltage regulators. 
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Offline sikheadzraf

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Re: unregulated adaptor on multifx?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 01:12:09 PM »
Most MFX already have internal voltage regulators, so most unregulated DC adapters will do.  BUT some DC adapters do not have enough DC filter capacitor (low value capacitors ~1,000uf) to reduce hum.  The solution is to add or replace the existing capacitor with a higher value capacitor (2,200uf or higher).  If your MFX is big and uses a lot of current, use a 4,700uf capacitor.  After doing that, try operating the MFX at 6 volts.  If it works at 6 volts, use that setting.  If it doesn't work, move up to 7.5 volts but never go beyond 9 volts.  If it doesn't work at 9 volts, use a higher rated adapter (1000mA or higher).  If you use 9 volt setting when your MFX works at 6 volts setting, the extra voltage-current delivered to your MFX will only translate to higher heat dissipation form its internal voltage regulator which can damage other components near it and/or melt plastic casing.   

My Zoom707II works at 6 volts setting with 1000mA rated adapter and 9 volts using a 500mA rated adapter.

On old (read: classic or vintage) stomp boxes, it's better to use a well filtered and regulated power supply because many of these only use simple zener-transistor voltage regulators. 

oh ok po sir. thanks very much po also sa mga nagreply.
btw po i use korg ax5g and a 500mah unregulated adapter (MW yung brand).
so ok lang po pala sya because of internal voltage regulators and wont damage the adapter and the multifx?

thanks! :-D
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Offline john.doesnt

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Re: unregulated adaptor on multifx?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 09:35:52 AM »
I did not say that it will not damage your MFX.  It may if you are not careful.  The problem with generic adapters is their multi-volt capability.  Sometimes, even if you set it to 9 volts, it could deliver a peak voltage of ~15 volts because these are not manufactured with strict quality standards.  That is why you have to find the lowest voltage adapter settings that works with your MFX.  Also, the switches are not that accurate and if you accidentally set your adapter to 12 volts (even if the switch points to 9 volts) which could output as high as 18 peak voltage and you use that for quite some time, it may damage the voltage regulator of your MFX. 
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