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Offline juanberto

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vocal processing chain
« on: May 12, 2009, 02:10:20 PM »
whats yours?

sa akin po

EQ then Compressor then the effect i want


anu sa inyo?
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reycantong

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 08:03:58 PM »
Condenser Mic -> Tube Preamp -> Line6 Preamp Emulation (via SPDIF) -> DAW

Edit:
Pag nasa DAW na, I'm using Izotope 4 for a vocal track. Ang chain niya is EQ -> compressor. Then naka send sa isang Auxiliary channel for the Reverb.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2009, 10:12:55 PM by reycantong »

Offline juanberto

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 10:03:16 PM »
Condenser Mic -> Tube Preamp -> Line6 Preamp Emulation (via SPDIF) -> DAW


sa mixing po ng vocals, effect/vst chain process.. hehe :-D
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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 02:01:43 AM »
Condenser Mic -> Tube Preamp -> Line6 Preamp Emulation (via SPDIF) -> DAW

Edit:
Pag nasa DAW na, I'm using Izotope 4 for a vocal track. Ang chain niya is EQ -> compressor. Then naka send sa isang Auxiliary channel for the Reverb.

so ano mas maganda setup? ( either plug-in or hardware )
1. compressor>EQ>Reverb
or
2. EQ>Compressor>Reverb
or
3. Reverb>Compressor>EQ ( you might lose some reverb with this )
or
4. Compressor>Reverb>EQ
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reycantong

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 07:33:09 AM »
so ano mas maganda setup? ( either plug-in or hardware )
1. compressor>EQ>Reverb
or
2. EQ>Compressor>Reverb
or
3. Reverb>Compressor>EQ ( you might lose some reverb with this )
or
4. Compressor>Reverb>EQ

Sa akin, EQ>Compressor>Reverb. Nakukuha ko naman gusto ko dito. Mag iiba pa kasi to (at kakapal pa) pag naglagay ka ng Mastering Plug-In sa Master Track mo.


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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 10:16:19 AM »
hi, im britesynth and im a compression addict...  :oops:

pag nagcompress ba sa vocals ok lang magcompress ulit sa master/main mix mga sir?

o kahit sa anong instrument track ok lang din ba ganun? para kasing nagiging muddy

(lagi ko pa rin tinatandaan ang golden rule: tenga ang gamitin  :-D)

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Offline juanberto

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 12:32:28 PM »
hi, im britesynth and im a compression addict...  :oops:

pag nagcompress ba sa vocals ok lang magcompress ulit sa master/main mix mga sir?

o kahit sa anong instrument track ok lang din ba ganun? para kasing nagiging muddy

(lagi ko pa rin tinatandaan ang golden rule: tenga ang gamitin  :-D)




di kaya maxadong compressed na un? but nasa sayo kung maganda pa rin ang tunog pero mas ok siguro pag hindi mo na compress sa master. or better gamitin mo ung izotope for the master track  or the waves plugs magaganda ang mastering vst niya
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reycantong

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 02:14:43 PM »

di kaya maxadong compressed na un? but nasa sayo kung maganda pa rin ang tunog pero mas ok siguro pag hindi mo na compress sa master. or better gamitin mo ung izotope for the master track  or the waves plugs magaganda ang mastering vst niya

Depende sa adjustment mo ng compression. For me, definitely gagamit ako ng compression sa master track (again, with the right amount). It helps in making your tracks sit together in the mix.

Offline rakrakan

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 02:31:23 PM »
Typical vocal chain depende sa vocalist, depende rin sa style of music

1. mic (condenser vs dynamic vs ribbon)

2. preamp (tube vs SS)

3. EQ (not always, depende sa vocalist)

4. Compressor (8/10 times we track with comps - just makes the voice sound like bigger and fuller; starting at 2:1, depende sa style of music)

we do send reverb and delays to the vocalist's monitor so they can "feel it".




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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 03:56:17 PM »
so ano mas maganda setup? ( either plug-in or hardware )
1. compressor>EQ>Reverb
or
2. EQ>Compressor>Reverb
or
3. Reverb>Compressor>EQ ( you might lose some reverb with this )
or
4. Compressor>Reverb>EQ

effects i use as inserts: comp (if needed)>EQ tapos nakabuss yung channel thru a reverb aux channel.  una muna comp para kahit anong iboost mo na frequency sa eq, hindi maapektuhan yung response ng comp.

more often than not i use a masterbus comp (madalas SSL comp) despite individual track compression.  laging subtle lang settings ko unless im using the comp as an effect rather than to tame the dynamics. also, i dont rely on the comp alone to tame the dynamics.  i often use automation side by side
compression, lalo na kung masyadong malaki ang dynamic range ng track.

hope this helps.
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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 04:09:48 PM »
so ano mas maganda setup? ( either plug-in or hardware )
1. compressor>EQ>Reverb
or
2. EQ>Compressor>Reverb
or
3. Reverb>Compressor>EQ ( you might lose some reverb with this )
or
4. Compressor>Reverb>EQ

palagi ko inuuna yung EQ sa kahit anong chain

eq -> comp - para macut ko yung lows para hindi palaging mag activate yung comp
eq -> reverb - para macut ko rin yung lows para hindi maging muddy o lumambot yung attack

then again, kanya kanya lang  :-D

Offline alien_inside

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2009, 11:51:10 PM »

we do send reverb and delays to the vocalist's monitor so they can "feel it".


me also, but not recorded... monitoring purpose lang.
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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2009, 11:48:34 AM »
palagi ko inuuna yung EQ sa kahit anong chain

eq -> comp - para macut ko yung lows para hindi palaging mag activate yung comp
eq -> reverb - para macut ko rin yung lows para hindi maging muddy o lumambot yung attack

then again, kanya kanya lang  :-D

nice one peeves.  when youre cutting  it makes more sense to EQ first before comping :)  which makes me wonder if it's wise to set different instances of EQ's ----> before and after the comp: one for cuts and the other for boosts ... pwede siguro if it sounds right.

i usually track vocals with the locut of the preamp engaged already, and a reverb on the aux channel of the track :)

when mixing sometimes i find myself not compressing the vocals at all, depending on the music of course.  just a touch of lo cut on the vocals and thats that, but i would still definitely automate the track ;)
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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2009, 04:25:57 AM »
basically, mic+preamp--> DAW, once that combo is set, the EQ and comps come in if needed. i try and not apply too much comp and EQ if i can help it since i find it helps the track achieve a more organic and realistic feel; something that is subject to the genre as well . before slapping on an EQ, i tend to adjust mic positioning first because i am always hesitant to adjust something that might take away from the dynamics of a otherwise direct recording chain.

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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2009, 01:11:07 PM »
ang ginagawa ko naman e mic-preamp-compressor.. i record flat para kung me uulitin e sakto yung signal at walang hahabulin na tunog. tinatandaan ko din yung input levels ng mic preamp at settings sa compressor. sa monitoring ng singer/artist ko naman nilalagyan ng EQ kung kailangan at reverb para feel ng singer yung song dahil napapadali ang performance kapag me reverb ang vocals at yung artist naman kung drummer e nabibigyan ng mas mabigat at mas makapal na "kick drum or snare sound" pag nilalagyan ng EQ.
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Re: vocal processing chain
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2009, 02:56:15 AM »
mic-preamp-compressor..
mic-preamp-limiter
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