questions on eL-36 and sub zero

[RevTech]

guys i have a few question on L36 and subzero.

1. which is better when it comes on bass?
2. between the two, sino pinaka malakas mag throw ng bass?
3. meron na po ba dito nakapag try pagsabayin yun L36 and subzero? nag ca-cancel po ba pag pinagtabi?

tia...

[sl1200ltd]

maraming factors... choice of amp, crossover settings, what type of music club or live band? kung orig L-36 then compare to sub zero what woofer?... kaya mahirap mag compare. 

[RevTech]

let's say for a all around type of music. and let's say, a same type of amp with the same settings in crossover and wtih the same driver. which is which?

[mbenipayo]

If you use an original L-36 (new model is EL-36) or a JE-36, it performs better than the Sub-Zero.  and is lighter, compact & more efficient.

Check out The Music Source, they have em'

[mixx]

i believe mix/matching of different subwoofers are not recommended by the pros, they say there would be phase/time issues specially if youre using hornloaded subs. if you have a driverack or any speaker processor maybe you can go 4 way and split the lows into 2 parts ie (sub - low)-mid-high. maybe the pros around the forum can explain this well medyo madaming technicality e

[CodeOne]

 na try ko sir yan i have installed 4 per side subzero and and 8 units na el36 at the center, ok nman kailangan mo lang gumamit ng separate crossover for the subzero and the el36, hindi sila pwede magsama sa iisang crossover... makaiba ang tunog nila... sa open air disco ok ang subzero, sa live band nman i prefer the el36...

[RevTech]

@codeone magkaiba lang sya ng tunog? hindi sya nagca-cancel??

[Jef2]

@codeone magkaiba lang sya ng tunog? hindi sya nagca-cancel??

cancellation occurs mainly if the two enclosure designs are configured under one crossover frequency. they combine different enclosure designs thinking that the varying models are meant to produce the same behaviour. another event when cancellation happens is kung 'out of phased' ang mutiple speaker(cab) set-up mo. this is a common error for most systems today.  they don't check kung naka 'in-phase' ang set-up nla. they think more is better.  an 'in-phased' system of 2 per side of bass can outperform a 4 per side 'out of phased' set-up.

[mixx]

cancellation occurs mainly if the two enclosure designs are configured under one crossover frequency. they combine different enclosure designs thinking that the varying models are meant to produce the same behaviour. another event when cancellation happens is kung 'out of phased' ang mutiple speaker(cab) set-up mo. this is a common error for most systems today.  they don't check kung naka 'in-phase' ang set-up nla. they think more is better.  an 'in-phased' system of 2 per side of bass can outperform a 4 per side 'out of phased' set-up.

just think of it as " (+1 -1 = 0) where +1 is inphase, -1 as out of phase

but there are some subwoofer design (cardiod subs) that uses this out of phase technology to maximize their effeciency but it would require complicated settings on the processors or they have their own dedicated one, i think meyer, nexo and l'acoustics has this

[N1X]

I'm using EL-36 for 6 years. wala ako masabi. sub-zero walang rattle or shake. puro punch lang unlike EL-36 pwede sya mag punch and rattle, kaya nga yung JE-36 stands for "Junior Earthquake"

[karlwilson]

If you use an original L-36 (new model is EL-36) or a JE-36, it performs better than the Sub-Zero.  and is lighter, compact & more efficient.

Check out The Music Source, they have em'

pwd malaman saan yung TMS store?ty