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Offline smarty

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cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« on: January 20, 2012, 10:22:07 PM »
good evening! tama ba connection ko, at the back of the cross over unit meron low mid high na output, sa mid ba yung tamang connection para dun sa fullrange speaker? at the front panel naman meron low mid frequency (70hz-1kh) at mid high frequency (400hz - 7kh) san ba dapat nakaset yung mid hi frequency?


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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 10:30:48 PM »
Boz, kung fullRange na speakers m0, hinDi na kailanGan ng cr0ss0ver.  Kahit graphic Eq na lang.  :-)

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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 11:46:37 PM »
Hi, any chance malaman muna kong ano gamit mo na speaker.

Ready made o DIY....only ask kasi normally pag ready made o full range na meron nang built in x-over inside.

Are you running anything else below..ie Sub.

Mid-Hi...........Mid normally cover the 200Hz up to 1.5Khz region and Hi cover from 1.5Khz upwards...Give or take some drivers can go lower and others can go higher. Depende sa set up and box design.


Sorry naka post na pala si boss tjlimjoco :wink:








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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 12:16:20 PM »
pair of mackie thump tapos cbe18 na sub.

nung nagtest kasi ako, connection ko is mixer - crossover - mid out to mackie - low out to power amp  then sub.

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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 02:29:31 AM »
pair of mackie thump tapos cbe18 na sub.

nung nagtest kasi ako, connection ko is mixer - crossover - mid out to mackie - low out to power amp  then sub.

I dont have any experience sa CBe18.

Try,

CBe18 40Hz to 120Hz-140Hz (Can go down lower than 40Hz but I doubt you really have to o depende what type of music you plays.)
Mackie 120Hz-140Hz o saan naka low pass ang CBe18 upwards.....20kHz. You can always overlap but not too much. Is the Mackie 15" by any chance. If they are they can certainly go lower pero OK na siguro over 100Hz para maka volume pa sa tops without making the amp to struggle kasi may Sub naman....Is the Mackie thump active by the chance?

By the way what is the Crossover unit if you dont mind and also ilang CBe18 ang ginagamit.

Sure others got a different take than mine :oops: :-D :wave:



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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 09:34:29 PM »
sorry i forgot to state the model, yes its active (pair) and has 15in woofer, sub (1 pair)was set at 100hz, ok naman yung performance. nung dinemo kasi yung amplifier at crossover sa store, sinet nila ng 100hz sa low at 6kh sa mid, kaya yun din ginaya ko. pero parang mali kasi sa setting. yung crossover is live-china brand exactly same as this
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/nady-cx23sw-3-way-stereo-crossover/183711000000000


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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 03:11:50 AM »
I think your best bet is, not sure what mixer/desk you running firstly but run the CBe18 from your mixer straight to your crossover unit then use the Sub woofer out of the crossover unit to your CBe18 amp........maybe if using the CBe18 as stand alone Sub you can go lower between 80-90Hz. Then just run the Mackie thump as it is ie. straight from the mixer....You dont need to run this to your crossover unit anymore as this is all pre wired inside hence fullrange meaning you cant separate your mid and hi unless you disable the wiring inside and do another wiring and use your Active crossover <_<....But there is no point as looking at the crossover unit can only go up to 7Khz ?:?. Might as well just use the Mackie as it is.  :)

CBe18 say between 80Hz-100Hz then set Mackie low freq to meet your Sub...That way your not losing anything or having a gap in your freq. Mackie 15's will just cover the Kick section to Mid while the rest will get cover of Mackies Hi. Heard them a few times and they can certainly thump. :-D

Or play around with the Sub freq on your Crossover unit until you think which sound best for the CBe18 and set Mackie freq. accordingly......CBe18 can certainly go higher than 100Hz so just a matter of if you like the sound over that. :-D



Are you running the 2 CBe18 Left+Right and Mackie on top of each of them?....or using the 2 CBe18 mono in the middle of the 2 Mackies?
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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 10:09:12 PM »

Are you running the 2 CBe18 Left+Right and Mackie on top of each of them?.... yes sir.

kung gagamit ba ako ng eq, say mixer - eq - crossover mid out to mackie, low out to sub, will it make a difference?






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Re: cross over setting on fullrange speakers
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 11:53:33 PM »
Are you running the 2 CBe18 Left+Right and Mackie on top of each of them?.... yes sir.

kung gagamit ba ako ng eq, say mixer - eq - crossover mid out to mackie, low out to sub, will it make a difference?

Yes it will still work..so set Mackie EQ accordingly likewise everything in the middle tapos sa mixer ka na lang mag adjust if you wish to.
Not just Mackie your controlling for EQ as well as your CBe.

Can you post the model ng Mixer please para medyo madali mag explain...Na co-confuse din tuloy ako :lol:
This is the Mackie Thump right TH-15A. http://www.mackie.com/products/thump/