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Re: Ampless Situation?
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2014, 12:23:02 AM »
Ahhh i see. I am looking on versatility and price point comparison. Zoom ms50g pesos + DI box pesos = Zoom G3 pesos na kase.
+1 sa G3. Sa dami lang ng magagawa mo, sulit na sulit na. May effects ka na, may audio interface at amp modeler ka pa. Ni-retire ko na nga yung pedalboard ko pero naiwan yung G3 (at isang dirt box for emergencies). Ginagamit ko pa rin siya for recording not only guitar tracks, but synths/keys and vocals as well.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2014, 07:40:58 AM »
Guys thanks for the replies!

Bro ikaw yung taga bicol? ot

I think mas okay kung isang proper "amp in a pedal" ang gagamitin mo parang yung ethos amp (see posts of Ms. Barbie) or yung "box of amps" something na nakita ko dito. Or maybe an amp sim from the likes of the zoom MS-50G.

just posting based from what I read as I always play with an amp. Pero may bad monkey ako dati, ginagamit ko lang yung mixer out pag nagcifra ako sa headphones.

Oo bro taga Bicol ako :) Ethos amp - Interesting! Salamat padi! hehe. Nakita ko na dati yung box of amps, clone yata siya ng GT2 pero not sure


Try mo muna mga cheap preamp+cab pedalls like Behringer GDI-21, baka magustuhan mo, pag mejo ok na sayo pero nakulangan ka pa, try mo naman yung mga Sansamp products... pero kung ako sayo bili ka na lang multi-effects na may amp ang cab sims, mas tipid pa ata, ok na yung Zoom G5

Nagamit mo na ba yung GDI-21? Okay din ba yung clean signal niya? Thanks paps!


You can try sansamp pedals bro... dati I used the Yamaha DG stomp  :-D

In your experience, okay ba clean signal niya? What particular Sansamp pedal have you tried? Thank you!



if you have some bucks, you can get a SANSAMP GT2

Mas okay ba to kesa sa Character pedals nila paps? Thanks!


I went through countless ideas straight to mixer
At the end what works for me is axe fx 2 as my main rig or for a smaller set up jamup by positive grid using my iphone! Or ipad :)

Sounds very familiar :) I have a friend who's exactly using the same setup! Si Sunil ba to? Haha! 


Kung meron kang iPad, download the free JamUp App, buy the JamUp plug, then yun ang gamitin mong amp and cab simulator sa pedals mo.

Okay din sana to pero as much as possible I want to stick with a pedal muna siguro. Nagdownsize din kasi ako kaya iwas sa madaming setup :) Salamat sir!



Forgot the JamUp! sobrang convincing din nito TS! very impressed with this lalo na sa BIAS na app!

Oo nga! I've tried the BIAS and JamUp maganda talaga pero medyo madami kasi kinakabit haha!


More than an amp sim, you need a DI with cab simulator.

Do you have a specific pedal in mind sir? Or example: SanSamp GT2 + DI box? Thanks sir!
« Last Edit: August 11, 2014, 07:43:57 AM by Garner »
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2014, 09:15:55 AM »
^palagay ko pinakapraktikal na yung Zoom G3 setup -XLR out, interface, amp and cab sims, and so much more. Kahit nga yun na lang mismo (wala ng board) kung ultimate downsize talaga haha

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2014, 09:50:56 AM »
^^^

the sansamp is nice yes. pero tama rin sila na kung ayaw mo ng maraming kinakabit for the jamup, the G3 is your best choice. :)
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2014, 09:56:12 AM »
Mga Sirs, you all are clearing the path! Now I'm thinking to go to the SanSamp route, medyo nakakalito lang kung si GT2 ba or Character pedals? I wish I have the budget to try them all first haha! I'm also reviewing the Joyo Character clones, I've heard okay din daw, wala daw masyado pagkakaiba. Totoo kaya? Hehe

I plan to use it as a 'clean amp' lang talaga. I'll put it at the end of the chain to act as an 'amp'. It'll be awesome to hear your thoughts about these pedals! :) Thanks again guys for all your help! Ayos!
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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2014, 10:03:54 AM »
^palagay ko pinakapraktikal na yung Zoom G3 setup -XLR out, interface, amp and cab sims, and so much more. Kahit nga yun na lang mismo (wala ng board) kung ultimate downsize talaga haha

Wala pa sa options ko yung multi effects eh, medyo matagal ko kasi binuo yung pedalboard para talaga sa tunog na gusto ko hehe! Imagine me saying goodbye to those babies! haha!


^^^
the sansamp is nice yes. pero tama rin sila na kung ayaw mo ng maraming kinakabit for the jamup, the G3 is your best choice. :)

Amazing nga yung sansamp :) medyo hindi ko kasi gusto yung tone produced by multi effects e, mas okay din saken yung madali itweak on stage hehe


Thanks mga paps!
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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2014, 10:14:26 AM »
Wala pa sa options ko yung multi effects eh, medyo matagal ko kasi binuo yung pedalboard para talaga sa tunog na gusto ko hehe! Imagine me saying goodbye to those babies! haha!


Amazing nga yung sansamp :) medyo hindi ko kasi gusto yung tone produced by multi effects e, mas okay din saken yung madali itweak on stage hehe


Thanks mga paps!

kung ganun, amp in a box nga hanap mo.

pero IMHO, the latest multieffects sounds close to natural na, so baka may misconception ka pa nung "digital sound" dahil lumang models yung mga multi na natry mo. my advice is to test the zoom g3 or ms50g muna. pag ayaw mo talaga, game, sansamp na or any analog amp in a box. :)
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2014, 11:04:51 AM »
I'd go for either the MS50 or the SansAmp. Good thing about it is that you can shuffle either pedal around the chain
for other purposes when you're not doing DI.
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2014, 11:09:47 AM »
kung ganun, amp in a box nga hanap mo.

pero IMHO, the latest multieffects sounds close to natural na, so baka may misconception ka pa nung "digital sound" dahil lumang models yung mga multi na natry mo. my advice is to test the zoom g3 or ms50g muna. pag ayaw mo talaga, game, sansamp na or any analog amp in a box. :)

Ganun nga siguro. matagal na kasi nung nasubukan ko sila. Actually meron ako nung ms50g sa bahay ngayon, pinahiram saken nung kabanda ko pero di ko alam gamitin haha!
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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2014, 11:13:07 AM »
I'd go for either the MS50 or the SansAmp. Good thing about it is that you can shuffle either pedal around the chain
for other purposes when you're not doing DI.

Can I use the MS50 just for amp/cab sim? Do I put it at the end of the chain or just after the dirt pedals? Thanks man!
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2014, 11:38:56 AM »
Can I use the MS50 just for amp/cab sim? Do I put it at the end of the chain or just after the dirt pedals? Thanks man!

ayun. if tahts the case bro, i really encourage you to try it. non believer ako ng Multieffects as in sobra kasi I hate the digital sound. pero lately, the amp sims in the ZOOM MS and G series impress me. very natural sounding if tweaked correctly.

try using the presets muna bro kung hirap ka gamitin.


kung amp sim mo siya gagamitin, i suggest dulo mo siya ilagay.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2014, 12:04:19 PM »
ayun. if tahts the case bro, i really encourage you to try it. non believer ako ng Multieffects as in sobra kasi I hate the digital sound. pero lately, the amp sims in the ZOOM MS and G series impress me. very natural sounding if tweaked correctly.

try using the presets muna bro kung hirap ka gamitin.


kung amp sim mo siya gagamitin, i suggest dulo mo siya ilagay.
+1
the digital amp sims have come a long way. pati nga noise at hum ineemulate na rin. just remember to tweak it through a mixer and not a guitar amp. sa dulo mo ilagay parang pedalboard lang bago mag amp.

kung trip mo mas hassle pero ayos pa rin ang tunog, yung iPad/iPhone apps, or bitbit ka ng laptop na may Guitar Rig or Amplitube (but be careful with latency issues).
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2014, 12:36:51 PM »
ayun. if tahts the case bro, i really encourage you to try it. non believer ako ng Multieffects as in sobra kasi I hate the digital sound. pero lately, the amp sims in the ZOOM MS and G series impress me. very natural sounding if tweaked correctly.

try using the presets muna bro kung hirap ka gamitin.


kung amp sim mo siya gagamitin, i suggest dulo mo siya ilagay.

Sige try ko siya this week :) di ko siya napapansin kasi akala ko wala siya cab sim hehe. Thank you paps!


+1
the digital amp sims have come a long way. pati nga noise at hum ineemulate na rin. just remember to tweak it through a mixer and not a guitar amp. sa dulo mo ilagay parang pedalboard lang bago mag amp.

kung trip mo mas hassle pero ayos pa rin ang tunog, yung iPad/iPhone apps, or bitbit ka ng laptop na may Guitar Rig or Amplitube (but be careful with latency issues).

Noted :) medyo ang hirap din kasi sa bahay naka amps then sa Church wala masyado time mag tweak hehe. Thank you!
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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2014, 03:17:14 PM »
Sige try ko siya this week :) di ko siya napapansin kasi akala ko wala siya cab sim hehe. Thank you paps!


Noted :) medyo ang hirap din kasi sa bahay naka amps then sa Church wala masyado time mag tweak hehe. Thank you!

AMP Sim lang ata ang meron, walang Cab sim. sa JAMUP/BIAS merong cab sim plus micing.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2014, 03:35:11 PM »
AMP Sim lang ata ang meron, walang Cab sim. sa JAMUP/BIAS merong cab sim plus micing.

Tama, amp sim lang ang meron, pero hindi naman sya super detrimental sa pangangailangan mo, na walang cab sim. Designed naman yung mga bagong modelers ng Zoom for DI.
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2014, 08:32:11 AM »
AMP Sim lang ata ang meron, walang Cab sim. sa JAMUP/BIAS merong cab sim plus micing.

Ah ganun ba. Okay na yun for now hehe. When it comes to free app parang mas gusto ko Ampkit compared to JamUp, not sure kung natry mo na :) Mas madalas ko siya ginagamit sa bahay


Tama, amp sim lang ang meron, pero hindi naman sya super detrimental sa pangangailangan mo, na walang cab sim. Designed naman yung mga bagong modelers ng Zoom for DI.

Oo nga basta mawala lang muna yung fuzzy/muddy sound pansamantala :) then hanap na lang ako ng permanent pedal para sa preferred tone ko :)

Thanks paps!
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2014, 11:08:37 AM »
oi garner... yes this is sunil...   :)

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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2014, 02:32:55 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2014, 02:55:38 AM »
Solution: Line6 POD HD... to PA or line stereo speakers

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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2014, 09:16:12 AM »
oi garner... yes this is sunil...   :)

Oi bro haha! Sabi na eh! :-D Familiar setup haha!
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