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Offline nitotela

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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2011, 08:23:23 PM »
pwera biro ito, na try ko na rin ung Santol!hehehe,mabigat nga lang
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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2011, 07:38:10 AM »
in all honesty, i forgot about the guy's name.  :lol:

yeah i remember that you paid him a visit.  but based on our email exchanges before, he gave me the impression that he builds them personally. 

Probably he didn't want to give all the details thru email. Or he just wanted you to pay him a visit and see the guitars personally. But once you get to talk to him he's really transparent about the details on how and where it was made. Maybe he just wants to protect his market which is the UK and US buyers.
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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2011, 10:18:59 AM »
The sweetest tone!



sweet nga! haha..

pwera biro ito, na try ko na rin ung Santol!hehehe,mabigat nga lang

yes, i've seen laminated bamboo, laminated bayabas(the wood not the fruit haha), santol, cocolumber(finished with a sealer)..

but these were acoustic builds..the bamboo acoustic belonged to a classmate of mine in hs, it was good sounding!, all these guitars though didnt have trussrods and had crappy parts..

i wonder if these were redone in todays technology and parts..that would be interesting

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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2012, 04:02:01 PM »
Good day!

If you don't mind me posting the link of Ferangeli Guitar Handcrafter Facebook Page.  :)

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Offline abyssinianson

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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2012, 05:17:45 PM »
there are no "proper" schools of lutherie. even in the US, the closest school that would fit the description is robbie o'brien's class at the red rocks community college in colorado.  dito wala. 

the way to go is to be an apprentice but not a lot of luthiers are open to that idea.

the other way is just to do it.  get books, read forums and let experience teach you.  i have a few good books on that topic :-)
actually, i'd disagree.

there are a few schools in the US that specialize in luthiery, restoration and repair of string instruments. the ones i am most familiar with are Specimen (http://www.specimenproducts.com/) and the Galloup School (http://www.galloupguitars.com/) which have turned out a few big name luthiers from its curriculum. I've known a few people who have trained in the Galloup's school programs including some road techs who have gone on to do guitar work for Pearl Jam, Wilco and such. Luthiers that have trained at Galloup also include Mike Greenfield (http://www.greenfieldguitars.com/) and guys that have done work for Gruhns and similar prestigious guitar repair places. I visited Mike's shop not too long ago to pick up my guitar and he has several people in his shop that trained specifically in luthiery to hone their craft and are currently working for him for more training.

the best way would be to do an apprenticeship. learning on your own is great but since you are considering it to change career paths -you'd need formal training to know the nuances of the trade like tap tone, brace design, wood selection, structure dynamics...there is a whole bunch of stuff that goes into guitar making that may not be covered well in a book.
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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2012, 12:52:34 AM »
share ko lang sa japan meron din luthierie school gaya ng fernandes guitar engineer school - http://www.fernandes.co.jp/school/school_entrance.html

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« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2012, 03:44:38 AM »
A formal background would be nice, but like what most of us would agree, there are no lutherie schools here in the Philippines.  The best way, at least as a start up, is to work on your guitars, or some cheap guitars that you would like to learn on.  Do some guitar projects.  Working with electric guitars, like set ups, change pick ups and other parts, can get you off to begin.  Getting books like that authored by Dan Erlewine, are great guides.  The internet would have a lot of guides and directions on basic set ups and what have you.  But be careful to follow and selective on what is really the right way of doing it.  If you have the chance of going abroad to study, even for just a short seminar, it is an asset.  But start somewhere.  Get some tools for set ups, i. e., action adjustments, changing pups, parts, etc., exchange ideas with guys who can give you a tip or two.  Study the requirements and characteristics of each type of guitar, whether Fender, Gibson or whatever.  There are books and magazines as well as the internet as sources of info for these. When all else fail in your quest, you can always bring your guitar to better techs like Mike Sison, etc.  The important thing is to start somewhere and understand what you are doing and how things work. It will be easy to do things later on once you know all these.  I started this way and I set up all my guitars.  But when one of them needed its truss rod repaired, MicSis was the answer.
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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2012, 12:10:54 PM »
take a tesda carpentry for starters... once you learn how to work with wood, everything is a piece of suman.
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« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2012, 12:58:24 PM »
A formal background would be nice, but like what most of us would agree, there are no lutherie schools here in the Philippines.  The best way, at least as a start up, is to work on your guitars, or some cheap guitars that you would like to learn on.  Do some guitar projects.  Working with electric guitars, like set ups, change pick ups and other parts, can get you off to begin.  Getting books like that authored by Dan Erlewine, are great guides.  The internet would have a lot of guides and directions on basic set ups and what have you.  But be careful to follow and selective on what is really the right way of doing it.  If you have the chance of going abroad to study, even for just a short seminar, it is an asset.  But start somewhere.  Get some tools for set ups, i. e., action adjustments, changing pups, parts, etc., exchange ideas with guys who can give you a tip or two.  Study the requirements and characteristics of each type of guitar, whether Fender, Gibson or whatever.  There are books and magazines as well as the internet as sources of info for these. When all else fail in your quest, you can always bring your guitar to better techs like Mike Sison, etc.  The important thing is to start somewhere and understand what you are doing and how things work. It will be easy to do things later on once you know all these.  I started this way and I set up all my guitars.  But when one of them needed its truss rod repaired, MicSis was the answer.

+1. i've got some Erlewine material and they are really helpful for doing stuff on your own. def a great reference for the DiY approach.
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« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2012, 02:13:28 PM »
take a tesda carpentry for starters... once you learn how to work with wood, everything is a piece of suman.

Wow. That's underestimating the craft too much. Sure, you'll get a good start. But there's more to luthiery than woodworking.
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Offline rainierito

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« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2012, 08:44:15 PM »
guitar making is in a sense woodworking. working with wood is a big deal, it takes loads of work.
others like pickup winding electronics etc... you can learn a book or thru videos etc... ;)
i'm not underestimating. wood is the main component of the guitar. not the electronics.

maybe fender did twist the minds of pips, that you can just put two slabs of wood and just viola, a good sounding guitar. just picking wood is already an art.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 08:50:08 PM by rainierito »

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« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2012, 08:14:51 PM »
the best way would be to do an apprenticeship. learning on your own is great but since you are considering it to change career paths -you'd need formal training to know the nuances of the trade like tap tone, brace design, wood selection, structure dynamics...there is a whole bunch of stuff that goes into guitar making that may not be covered well in a book.

I love how Cumbiano shares his knowledge. You book him for two weeks and you build together in his shop.
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Offline dannygatton

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Re: Luthier School
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2014, 06:42:22 AM »
How about Tabo Derecho?  Apprenticeship?  His classical guitars, IMHO, are world class.  Classical guitar luthery, the really good ones, is the rolex  of guitar luthery.

Offline analog.matt

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« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2014, 07:49:22 AM »
actually, i'd disagree.

there are a few schools in the US that specialize in luthiery, restoration and repair of string instruments. the ones i am most familiar with are Specimen (http://www.specimenproducts.com/) and the Galloup School (http://www.galloupguitars.com/) which have turned out a few big name luthiers from its curriculum. I've known a few people who have trained in the Galloup's school programs including some road techs who have gone on to do guitar work for Pearl Jam, Wilco and such. Luthiers that have trained at Galloup also include Mike Greenfield (http://www.greenfieldguitars.com/) and guys that have done work for Gruhns and similar prestigious guitar repair places. I visited Mike's shop not too long ago to pick up my guitar and he has several people in his shop that trained specifically in luthiery to hone their craft and are currently working for him for more training.

the best way would be to do an apprenticeship. learning on your own is great but since you are considering it to change career paths -you'd need formal training to know the nuances of the trade like tap tone, brace design, wood selection, structure dynamics...there is a whole bunch of stuff that goes into guitar making that may not be covered well in a book.

i agree. the net pa lang will give you a lot of info.

business din ang tools. some luthiers had developed their own tools na din and rely less on stewmac and the likes.